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Quote from: Bobrox on May 13, 2022, 06:00:31 PM

Looking on match schedule Real Madrid favorite for winning champion league than Liverpool still have other final FA Cup against with Chelsea beside still try on tittle primer league race with Manchester City. I think before champion league begin Madrid have many weeks take rest and not really focus with domestic league after early winning La Liga trophy. Now how Liverpool keep consistent and take player without injury with busy schedule, not easy play with second player because all match are important for Liverpool because still have match on domestic league and FA Cup final.

Liverpool have 3 matches remaining before playing the Champions League final, which includes 1 FA Cup final and 2 league matches. While Real Madrid has only 2 league match, but since Real Madrid and Liverpool both have enough rest time from the last league match to the Champions League final. I don't think it will be a big problem to determine which team has the biggest advantage from match schedule.

We can't judge both teams and support either of them in this way, but the team's performance and consistency over the course of the season would probably be the best thing to judge. Whatever it is, I believe both have the same chance of winning the Champions League title this season.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on May 13, 2022, 11:31:20 PM

When we wait And predict what will happen in this match. While the Teams that will play are still traveling in the leagues they are still playing in. Especially Liverpool who will still be fighting for the FA Cup trophy with Chelsea. This of course will drain their stamina because the opponent is also a strong team.

and the match schedule of the two teams which at that time is also likely to have an influence in determining predictions. so I am now more focused on seeing every game of these two teams on their respective schedules. because later we can see which teams appear consistent in a good way and which ones are not consistent in maintaining the quality of the game. so that later there will be less data to predict the outcome in the final.

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When we wait And predict what will happen in this match. While the Teams that will play are still traveling in the leagues they are still playing in. Especially Liverpool who will still be fighting for the FA Cup trophy with Chelsea. This of course will drain their stamina because the opponent is also a strong team.

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Real Madrid v Liverpool is going to be a great match I think. Real Madrid have come a long way and they have had very tough opponents so far. Compared to Liverpool, they had tougher opponents after the group stage for sure. But this doesn't show that they are better than Liverpool now of course. Liverpool can even be a more challenging opponent for Real Madrid. I don't expect them to be complacent of course. I just hope to see a big rivalry in this match and both teams can score. And I believe Real Madrid will be reaching the title.

Mo Salah said he was looking forward to the match and also added that he remembered the final in which they lost and was anxious for revenge. I think Liverpool will win simply because they have a very big desire to win the cup. If they really win, Salah has every chance of getting the ball at the end of the season, well or Mane

As for Salah personally, I have big doubts that he will be able to win the golden ball at the end of the season. If only he starts doing something unimaginable in the remaining matches, then I rather think that there is more chance of winning the prize from Mane, if we talk about the Liverpool players. The fact that Real Madrid had stronger and more status rivals in the previous stages of the Champions League does not say anything, especially since it is absolutely impossible to say that Real Madrid was head and shoulders stronger than Paris Saint-Germain and Chelsea and Manchester City. Here we can rather talk about the element of chance that gave Real Madrid some rivals, and Liverpool other rivals.

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Liverpool have a Final match today against Chelsea and then have to finish their fight for the Premier League in the next 2 matches before they are 100% ready for the Champions League final. The FA Cup final against Chelsea will be exhausting, but against Southampton and Wolves it may not be.

Liverpool's schedule is still very busy. They are still trying to win the Premier League title. At the same time, the FA Cup match against Chelsea is very important for Liverpool. Having consistently performed well in every match, I doubt if Liverpool will do well in the Champions League final. If any of Liverpool's key players get injured before the Champions League final, then winning the final will be challenging for Liverpool.

With a busy schedule and very important matches of course will be very tiring for liverpool, the FA Final and the champions League will of course be a top priority for klopp, while the english league match, I think klopp may have given up on chasing because the difference in points from manchester city, opportunities small to win the EPL with 2 games remaining might make klopp now prioritize the champions league so he will save some of his main players in the league to face the champions league final later.

Looking on match schedule Real Madrid favorite for winning champion league than Liverpool still have other final FA Cup against with Chelsea beside still try on tittle primer league race with Manchester City. I think before champion league begin Madrid have many weeks take rest and not really focus with domestic league after early winning La Liga trophy. Now how Liverpool keep consistent and take player without injury with busy schedule, not easy play with second player because all match are important for Liverpool because still have match on domestic league and FA Cup final.

It is true that Real Madrid is bigger in maintaining the fitness of its players than Liverpool, who still have to play in several competitions.
In conclusion, Jurgen Klopp must be able to rotate players properly, so that Liverpool players can maintain their fitness when facing Real Madrid.
And also most importantly, don't let any of Liverpool's main players get injured. Because if there is an injury to Liverpool's main player,
it will reduce the excitement of the Champions League final match. I as a neutral supporter want both teams to perform with their best squad
in the Champions League final.

But it must be admitted mentally Real Madrid should be more prepared, because the confidence of Real Madrid players is very high this season.
Apart from Real Madrid winning the La Liga trophy this season, Real Madrid also managed to beat PSG and Chelsea in the previous round.
But Liverpool are also a very strong team and it won't be easy for Real Madrid to beat Liverpool. So the match is very difficult to predict,
but I see Real Madrid have a slightly better chance of winning the Champions League trophy this year.

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Liverpool have a Final match today against Chelsea and then have to finish their fight for the Premier League in the next 2 matches before they are 100% ready for the Champions League final. The FA Cup final against Chelsea will be exhausting, but against Southampton and Wolves it may not be.

Liverpool's schedule is still very busy. They are still trying to win the Premier League title. At the same time, the FA Cup match against Chelsea is very important for Liverpool. Having consistently performed well in every match, I doubt if Liverpool will do well in the Champions League final. If any of Liverpool's key players get injured before the Champions League final, then winning the final will be challenging for Liverpool.

With a busy schedule and very important matches of course will be very tiring for liverpool, the FA Final and the champions League will of course be a top priority for klopp, while the english league match, I think klopp may have given up on chasing because the difference in points from manchester city, opportunities small to win the EPL with 2 games remaining might make klopp now prioritize the champions league so he will save some of his main players in the league to face the champions league final later.

Looking on match schedule Real Madrid favorite for winning champion league than Liverpool still have other final FA Cup against with Chelsea beside still try on tittle primer league race with Manchester City. I think before champion league begin Madrid have many weeks take rest and not really focus with domestic league after early winning La Liga trophy. Now how Liverpool keep consistent and take player without injury with busy schedule, not easy play with second player because all match are important for Liverpool because still have match on domestic league and FA Cup final.

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Real Madrid v Liverpool is going to be a great match I think. Real Madrid have come a long way and they have had very tough opponents so far. Compared to Liverpool, they had tougher opponents after the group stage for sure. But this doesn't show that they are better than Liverpool now of course. Liverpool can even be a more challenging opponent for Real Madrid. I don't expect them to be complacent of course. I just hope to see a big rivalry in this match and both teams can score. And I believe Real Madrid will be reaching the title.

It was incredibly difficult for Real Madrid against Liverpool in the 2018 final league, but guess what, it was the same thing they knew at best they did to win against Liverpool that year. They are usually relentless to the point where you want to give up, but the second half and 80-minute mark is often a turning point, as they have done in all three of their recent matches, and it was spectacular. I don't want them to waste opportunities this time. I know Liverpool is well-prepared, but I have faith in Madrid to pull it off. The 28th of May will be a firestorm.

Apart from the luck aspects that always follow Real Madrid at every game, Real Madrid have prepared for this finals for year's and this time their will use all the strength to push through with Liverpool in the finals, we must not also forget the fact that Liverpool is not a small club to just with but with the way things are going in the various leagues Real Madrid is focused on more wining and you can easily see that from the energy their put in.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on May 13, 2022, 01:52:24 PM

Real Madrid v Liverpool is going to be a great match I think. Real Madrid have come a long way and they have had very tough opponents so far. Compared to Liverpool, they had tougher opponents after the group stage for sure. But this doesn't show that they are better than Liverpool now of course. Liverpool can even be a more challenging opponent for Real Madrid. I don't expect them to be complacent of course. I just hope to see a big rivalry in this match and both teams can score. And I believe Real Madrid will be reaching the title.

Mo Salah said he was looking forward to the match and also added that he remembered the final in which they lost and was anxious for revenge. I think Liverpool will win simply because they have a very big desire to win the cup. If they really win, Salah has every chance of getting the ball at the end of the season, well or Mane

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Quote from: Cookdata on May 13, 2022, 02:37:49 PM

Quote from: jakdanyel on May 13, 2022, 01:52:24 PM

Real Madrid v Liverpool is going to be a great match I think. Real Madrid have come a long way and they have had very tough opponents so far. Compared to Liverpool, they had tougher opponents after the group stage for sure. But this doesn't show that they are better than Liverpool now of course. Liverpool can even be a more challenging opponent for Real Madrid. I don't expect them to be complacent of course. I just hope to see a big rivalry in this match and both teams can score. And I believe Real Madrid will be reaching the title.

It was incredibly difficult for Real Madrid against Liverpool in the 2018 final league, but guess what, it was the same thing they knew at best they did to win against Liverpool that year. They are usually relentless to the point where you want to give up, but the second half and 80-minute mark is often a turning point, as they have done in all three of their recent matches, and it was spectacular. I don't want them to waste opportunities this time. I know Liverpool is well-prepared, but I have faith in Madrid to pull it off. The 28th of May will be a firestorm.

The time is getting closer where so far both teams are on the move showing a very good performance. I hope it confirms that they are really ready to face off in the final. The Madrid return you mean is correct, but Liverpool also made a quick comeback. So this final is definitely a match like no other. Expected by everyone around the world. As if it would be like a world final, the aura of competition could be felt before it even started. I see everywhere that many broadcasters and commentators are already discussing it.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on May 13, 2022, 12:52:36 PM

FA CUP schedule between Chelsea vs Liverpool 14 May. While the UEFA Champions League final on May 29, 2022. There are still two weeks for Liverpool to recover player stamina or player fitness after the FA CUP is over. Injuries are an unavoidable risk in football, but can still be anticipated as long as players play carefully.

Jurgen Klopp must be aware of the risk against Chelsea and Klopp will definitely instruct his players to maximize the match in the FA CUP so that hopes of lifting the UCL trophy can also be achieved.
You are right, that Liverpool still have 2 more games to play in the Premier League and the FA CUP final against Chelsea. Of course it will affect their level of concentration.

Because of the tournament situation in which Liverpool got into, every remaining match is like the last one. I'm sure Klopp won't give instructions to "play at half strength" or "emphasize safety" or anything like that. Most likely, Liverpool will try to play all the remaining games at the maximum, the question is how they will succeed, since in tomorrow's match Chelsea will definitely play at 100%, since for them this is in fact the last important match of the season.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on May 13, 2022, 01:52:24 PM

Real Madrid v Liverpool is going to be a great match I think. Real Madrid have come a long way and they have had very tough opponents so far. Compared to Liverpool, they had tougher opponents after the group stage for sure. But this doesn't show that they are better than Liverpool now of course. Liverpool can even be a more challenging opponent for Real Madrid. I don't expect them to be complacent of course. I just hope to see a big rivalry in this match and both teams can score. And I believe Real Madrid will be reaching the title.

It was incredibly difficult for Real Madrid against Liverpool in the 2018 final league, but guess what, it was the same thing they knew at best they did to win against Liverpool that year. They are usually relentless to the point where you want to give up, but the second half and 80-minute mark is often a turning point, as they have done in all three of their recent matches, and it was spectacular. I don't want them to waste opportunities this time. I know Liverpool is well-prepared, but I have faith in Madrid to pull it off. The 28th of May will be a firestorm.

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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.

It's more difficult than we imagined, even from a few games they are believed to end their competition in the Champions League. But they proved that they are a team that can't be just thrown away, even by a team whose quality can be said to be the same as theirs. They have been the superior team in the Champions League.

Comeback in the matches against PSG and Man City proves Real Madrid is very serious in the Champions League, Real Madrid has earned a ticket to the final, some football fans will say Real Madrid can repeat their success in the 2018 Champions League final. Liverpool also has ambitions of revenge on Real Madrid, Jurgen Klopp has learned from Liverpool's failure in 2018, this final Klopp will try to make up for their failure at that time.

Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are equally strong teams and I think they both have the same chance to win the Champions League. However, if I had to choose, my choice would be with Real Madrid because I think Real Madrid is much more prepared for that final. Currently, Real Madrid is already a La Liga winner, so practically they can save a lot of energy in the remaining La Liga matches. While Liverpool still has to keep fighting in the title race and of course this will really drain their concentration and their physical fitness.

This is without a doubt a huge advantage that Real Madrid has, they are going to face the final against the Liverpool not only with the best squad they can put on the field but everyone will be well rested and without any injuries, Liverpool still has to play with everything they have to win their local league, however Liverpool may decide to give up on their local league and concentrate on the champions, as it seems very difficult they could win their league when they are behind in points and the tie breakers are probably not in their favor either.

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Real Madrid v Liverpool is going to be a great match I think. Real Madrid have come a long way and they have had very tough opponents so far. Compared to Liverpool, they had tougher opponents after the group stage for sure. But this doesn't show that they are better than Liverpool now of course. Liverpool can even be a more challenging opponent for Real Madrid. I don't expect them to be complacent of course. I just hope to see a big rivalry in this match and both teams can score. And I believe Real Madrid will be reaching the title.

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Liverpool have a Final match today against Chelsea and then have to finish their fight for the Premier League in the next 2 matches before they are 100% ready for the Champions League final. The FA Cup final against Chelsea will be exhausting, but against Southampton and Wolves it may not be.

Liverpool's schedule is still very busy. They are still trying to win the Premier League title. At the same time, the FA Cup match against Chelsea is very important for Liverpool. Having consistently performed well in every match, I doubt if Liverpool will do well in the Champions League final. If any of Liverpool's key players get injured before the Champions League final, then winning the final will be challenging for Liverpool.

With a busy schedule and very important matches of course will be very tiring for liverpool, the FA Final and the champions League will of course be a top priority for klopp, while the english league match, I think klopp may have given up on chasing because the difference in points from manchester city, opportunities small to win the EPL with 2 games remaining might make klopp now prioritize the champions league so he will save some of his main players in the league to face the champions league final later.

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In this case, I don't think it's appropriate to compare something that doesn't need to be compared.
but for Pep I still feel he deserves to be at City because regardless of what he can't force his will when the team he coaches loses mentally in the Champions League then there is no need to blame.
His performances at City have been outstanding and he still deserves to be, besides if he does end up leaving at least for now it's quite difficult to find a new coach to suit the players.

Pep has done very well as Manchester City manager he has made them stronger, brought them to two semi finals and one final unfortunately he has not won it but he has done well in the competition domestically he is the best,with the way they play and style of entrainment he should be given respect, he has won lot of titles back to back at England and he has not done this with a striker, I think the club board appreciate his work, that's why they did not waste time to give him a world class striker (haaland) this time around to break the champions League curse.

Because there's no reason for them to fire now. As for still not being able to win the Champions League, they are still losing in experience and this is proof. on the other hand they have also fought well there and there is no need to blame anyone because on the other hand their opponent is also very tough.
Talking about the curse of the Champions League, hopefully Haaland can contribute well next season

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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.

If you compare both teams and their way how they made it into the finals of the Champions League, then it is pretty obvious that Real Madrid had way harder opponents there. All matchups in the knockout stage where Real Madrid was involved were total bangers and Real was basically the underdog in everyone of those matchups but still they managed to advance in everyone of those matches. Liverpool on the other hand had way easier opponents (maybe except Inter in the first round) and therefore their matches were not so spectacular and exciting because they just did what everyone expected them to do but of course that does not mean that Liverpool is not as strong as Real Madrid.

Spot on but again this is football and the winner will be determined by who's better on the pitch that day. I would like Real Madrid to win because of the difficult route they took to the final and secondly because of Benzema, I like this fairytale season of his. Despite Liverpool having had some sort of easy path to the final, they are also a very strong and balanced team with an incredible tactic coach too. So, I am expecting a master class performance from both teams.

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Quote from: skarais on May 13, 2022, 08:08:04 AM

Real Madrid's history in the Champions League final is truly incredible, it's difficult for any other team around the world to achieve a record like theirs in the next 10 years in my opinion. But maybe this season something different can still be expected especially Liverpool have been playing in good form all season. They reached several finals and of course they are already targeting a 7th title this season.

Of course it's going to be a very good game to look forward to, it's a final that will be amazing although I really want Manchester City to reach this final against Liverpool. But it doesn't matter because they've tried to give their best.

It's not just about the first years of UCL that they were great, if it was like that you would be able to say that they got lucky on early years and that is why they won and we are in a different era and same can't happen. However, they achieved the same exact thing recently as well and they did such a great job while doing it as well.

This is why I believe that even though Liverpool is seen as the favorites, nobody should see Real Madrid as an easy opponent. We remember last year, where City was seen as guaranteed to win, all odds showed that City will win, I saw a place that offered 1.20 odds once, terrible place of course but imagine how it looked, and we know the results.

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Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are equally strong teams and I think they both have the same chance to win the Champions League. However, if I had to choose, my choice would be with Real Madrid because I think Real Madrid is much more prepared for that final. Currently, Real Madrid is already a La Liga winner, so practically they can save a lot of energy in the remaining La Liga matches. While Liverpool still has to keep fighting in the title race and of course this will really drain their concentration and their physical fitness.

Both teams both have enough time before facing this final even though Liverpool actually has a concentration that is divided between the FA Cup final, the Premier League and also the Champions League.

Liverpool have a Final match today against Chelsea and then have to finish their fight for the Premier League in the next 2 matches before they are 100% ready for the Champions League final. The FA Cup final against Chelsea will be exhausting, but against Southampton and Wolves it may not be.

FA CUP schedule between Chelsea vs Liverpool 14 May. While the UEFA Champions League final on May 29, 2022. There are still two weeks for Liverpool to recover player stamina or player fitness after the FA CUP is over. Injuries are an unavoidable risk in football, but can still be anticipated as long as players play carefully.

Jurgen Klopp must be aware of the risk against Chelsea and Klopp will definitely instruct his players to maximize the match in the FA CUP so that hopes of lifting the UCL trophy can also be achieved.
You are right, that Liverpool still have 2 more games to play in the Premier League and the FA CUP final against Chelsea. Of course it will affect their level of concentration.

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Quote from: nurilham on May 12, 2022, 06:59:20 PM

Winning with big scores in La Liga indicates that Real Madrid players have a high motivation to win in each remaining match. It is a good sign for Real Madrid squad, they seem ready to show their best in the UCL final. But the winning in La Liga match cannot determine the result of UCL final, it is a different competition, and with different pressure. We cannot compare Liverpool with Levante, the squad quality is too much different, they are at a different level. So, the winning against Levante is nothing to do with the upcoming UCL final. It only showed a bit related to the mentality and motivation of Real Madrid players lately.

Win with big score and having all players in good shape surely giving some good advantage to Real Madrid, but they are unpredictable as they lost against Atlético Madrid and Barcelona which mean they can lose against quality teams even in Champions League they beat teams like PSG and Manchester City but here in this final they are going to face Liverpool which is having very good run and few players are in extraordinary form which mean we will have a quality match from both highly well qualified teams in this final.

Liverpool's slip against Tottenham but still they are in good control, and now they are going to face Chelsea in The FA Cup which is also very important for them as they need all their players in good shape before this Champions League so now wait and watch this final how they have done and win this year's treble.

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Quote from: D-law on May 13, 2022, 11:52:42 AM

Southampton have a German Coach, and they play almost the same pattern as Liverpool.
High pressing and counter attack's from wingers and right and left ( full backs ).
Wolves are also another stubborn side but Liverpool always seem to get a win after everything.

I think the game against wolves is still very long and it's not a priority for klopp right now because they will have another important match tomorrow which is the FA final against chelsea, but speaking of the match against wolves, it looks like klopp will not field their first squad in that match, the match indeed it will be their last game in the EPL this season but surely Liverpool will try to save their main squad for the Champions League final a week later.

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