Ed Woodward is by far the biggest problem Manchester United currently has. He will probably do good things for marketing, but if you want to win trophies football has to be the main priority. What's happening on the pitch must be more important than what's happening in the account sheets, otherwise you will have huge problems because your on-pitch performances won't be enough to pay for your instagram celebrities' wages.
In comparison, Liverpool bought players that became stars. United is buying stars that don't fit in as players. In football you cannot stay long on the outside without taking a serious reputation damage, United is dancing on that edge for a while already.
With Woodward in charge, the odds of them falling from it are quite high.
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4th position on Group A, is there any chance for Real Madrid to qualify to the next round champions league?
Who would have believed some seasons back that in a champions league group stage, Madrid would be languishing in fourth place, I can't really say what the problem is with Madrid, they made major reinforcements this season, Hazard being one of the big money players welcomed to the Berbenbeu. Florentino Perez might be a good business man, but I do not like the way be handles Madrid, just as Woodward manages Manchester United, I think Perez should leave Madrid, he has made them lose some key legends in the worst ways ever and I think that's come back to haunt them. It'll be the shock of the tournament if Madrid fails to qualify or drops to the Europa league, it'll be demeaning for the collection of world class talents they boast of.
It took 36 minutes for Liverpool lead the score 3 - 0 but when Hwang made a score for Salzburg the game looks change that Salzburg can equal the score and luckily Salah goal can save Liverpool face so this is very inversely proportional from Liverpool performance on english league that in the champion league they defence looks very weak because conceded 5 goals from 2 game
Florentino Perez might be a good business man, but I do not like the way be handles Madrid, just as Woodward manages Manchester United, I think Perez should leave Madrid, he has made them lose some key legends in the worst ways ever and I think that's come back to haunt them.
They have handled some transfers very poorly over the last couple of years, and this may be reflecting on the performances of the team. Most of the players lack loyalty to the club. We saw Bale pass on the complimentary badge (which the captains exchange) when Varane have it to him.
Madrid needs players that want to play for the club. (One) Big name sign-in would not cover up the underlying issue.
Florentino Perez might be a good business man, but I do not like the way be handles Madrid, just as Woodward manages Manchester United, I think Perez should leave Madrid, he has made them lose some key legends in the worst ways ever and I think that's come back to haunt them.
They have handled some transfers very poorly over the last couple of years, and this may be reflecting on the performances of the team. Most of the players lack loyalty to the club. We saw Bale pass on the complimentary badge (which the captains exchange) when Varane have it to him.
Madrid needs players that want to play for the club. (One) Big name sign-in would not cover up the underlying issue.
4th position on Group A, is there any chance for Real Madrid to qualify to the next round champions league?
Who would have believed some seasons back that in a champions league group stage, Madrid would be languishing in fourth place, I can't really say what the problem is with Madrid, they made major reinforcements this season, Hazard being one of the big money players welcomed to the Berbenbeu. Florentino Perez might be a good business man, but I do not like the way be handles Madrid, just as Woodward manages Manchester United, I think Perez should leave Madrid, he has made them lose some key legends in the worst ways ever and I think that's come back to haunt them. It'll be the shock of the tournament if Madrid fails to qualify or drops to the Europa league, it'll be demeaning for the collection of world class talents they boast of.
I dont think that they are now dependent on messi as you can see that how good sqaraz played and scored goal and won for the team. But due to famous name of messi it is always used it for getting highlighted
You certainly did not watch the match played yesterday and i also doubt if you watched any games of Barcelona with Messi in the pitch and without Messi in the pitch. Otherwise, what you are saying here is totally incorrect.Barcelona have been over dependent on him lately and whenever he doesn't play, the results speak for themselves. Please first watch matches before making random conclusions.
Almost all big teams doing good on week 2 champions league, Real Madrid on the other hand.... I don't know man, since Ronaldo left Real Madrid, this team become so bad. 4th position on Group A, is there any chance for Real Madrid to qualify to the next round champions league?
I dont think that they are now dependent on messi as you can see that how good sqaraz played and scored goal and won for the team. But due to famous name of messi it is always used it for getting highlighted
You certainly did not watch the match played yesterday and i also doubt if you watched any games of Barcelona with Messi in the pitch and without Messi in the pitch. Otherwise, what you are saying here is totally incorrect.Barcelona have been over dependent on him lately and whenever he doesn't play, the results speak for themselves. Please first watch matches before making random conclusions.
Even though Messi didn't score, there are plenty of passes from Messi that can produce goals because Messi is not selfish in playing the team and for whatever reason Barcelona still need messi in changing the game.
I dont think that they are now dependent on messi as you can see that how good sqaraz played and scored goal and won for the team. But due to famous name of messi it is always used it for getting highlighted
You certainly did not watch the match played yesterday and i also doubt if you watched any games of Barcelona with Messi in the pitch and without Messi in the pitch. Otherwise, what you are saying here is totally incorrect.Barcelona have been over dependent on him lately and whenever he doesn't play, the results speak for themselves. Please first watch matches before making random conclusions.
Red Star Belgrade travel poorly but they have an incredibly passionate, intimidating atmosphere at their home stadia. They are not to be underestimated in Belgrade.
Yes, passionate fans are a great addition, but they cannot win you the match. Serbian football is in a downfall for a long time, so I kind of ignored Red Star and thought they will get hammered.
I am pleasantly surprised by Red Star (back to back years in CL groups) so I plan to watch a game or 2 to see what that team is about and if they actually have some good players there.
While their national team is in not looking good for years now despite having very good players, their clubs are performing best since 1991 as Partizan is also playing good, and Serbia might have 2 clubs soon in Champions League.
In my opinion, their most important player is Marko Marin, easily, it was an excellent buy last year.
It's over. The 2 champions league matches yesterday, really a lot of interesting matches beyond expectations and predictions. Many even lose money in their bets because there is a team that is really disappointing in the match. But behind it all, there must be a winner in betting. Congratulations to everyone who bet, we are waiting for the UCL match on 10/23.
Once again it turns out that Barcelona have a lot of problems in their game.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
I dont think that they are now dependent on messi as you can see that how good sqaraz played and scored goal and won for the team. But due to famous name of messi it is always used it for getting highlighted
It seems to me that we watched 2 different matches
Messi is most deserving for Barcelona's second goal as he made a mess in the Inter defense and Suarez had a very easy job finishing the action.
Otherwise, just look at Barcelone's results with Messi and without Messi to see how powerless Barcelona is when Messi doesn't play.
... and in my eye Barcelona midfielders especially bosquets is really slow in making transition from attacking to defending, just look at how many times Barcelona left behind this season?
Busquets has been the holding midfielder for over a decade, also during the two years when Barcelona won trebles (including a sextuple), he's speed or lack of, has not cost the team as much as it has over the past three seasons. There is a general lack of urgency about the game when Barcelona losses possession. This was one of the major strengths of the team during the Guardiola era. High press, from the oppositions box.
Ernesto Valverde plays a more conserved type of football, much doesn't mean a better defense as we (yeah, I'm a fan) still let in lots of goals. Bad for the team, but good for gamblers as you pointed out.
Regarding defense, I agree that it is important for Barcelona to evaluate what has happened.
The problem in Barcelona's defense does not include the four man wall alone. It is rather a team problem. The midfielders and wing forwards okay very important roles in the defensive shape of any team. Poor trackbacks and closing of spaces down the middle would leave the defense line exposed time and again.
They are likely to concede in any game against a side with a decent attack.
considering they always make a good comeback!Did you know how much the odds for barcelona to win inter when they lost 0-1 at the HT ? It's delicious @4.2 !!
Did anybody placed live betting for them?
It was really an entertaining week for champions league, 52 goals in two days!!!
Red Star Belgrade travel poorly but they have an incredibly passionate, intimidating atmosphere at their home stadia. They are not to be underestimated in Belgrade.
Yes, passionate fans are a great addition, but they cannot win you the match. Serbian football is in a downfall for a long time, so I kind of ignored Red Star and thought they will get hammered.
I am pleasantly surprised by Red Star (back to back years in CL groups) so I plan to watch a game or 2 to see what that team is about and if they actually have some good players there.
What a crazy was Liverpool-Salzburg yesterday.It looks like Liverpool was too sure too fast of his win
I am happy with Ajax.Second game second win with class.It looks like that Ajax will count in current CL edition
Barca-Inter Barca has a lot to improve but at least his performance was much better than Real
I am happy with Ajax.Second game second win with class.It looks like that Ajax will count in current CL edition
Barca-Inter Barca has a lot to improve but at least his performance was much better than Real
Liverpool was a masterpiece yesterday.
But I think that we have to give a lot of credits to Salzburg because they displayed an amazing performance yesterday against the best team in Europe.
Once again it turns out that Barcelona have a lot of problems in their game.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
I dont think that they are now dependent on messi as you can see that how good sqaraz played and scored goal and won for the team. But due to famous name of messi it is always used it for getting highlighted
It seems to me that we watched 2 different matches
Messi is most deserving for Barcelona's second goal as he made a mess in the Inter defense and Suarez had a very easy job finishing the action.
Otherwise, just look at Barcelone's results with Messi and without Messi to see how powerless Barcelona is when Messi doesn't play.
Once again it turns out that Barcelona have a lot of problems in their game.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
I dont think that they are now dependent on messi as you can see that how good sqaraz played and scored goal and won for the team. But due to famous name of messi it is always used it for getting highlighted
One thing i noticed about Liverpool is that they play a high line of defense( I think it's a Klopp style just like he did at Dortmund) which is not good if a team is very tactical and can catch you on the break. Maybe Klopp could do some reinforcing in the near future.
I have been a Real Madrid Fan for a long time and one thing for sure is, defense has never been our thing. Yes we have brilliant individuals at the back, but they are mostly attack minded, that's why we barely keep clean sheets. Now this has been worsened as they age and there are no perfect replacements.
I have been a Real Madrid Fan for a long time and one thing for sure is, defense has never been our thing. Yes we have brilliant individuals at the back, but they are mostly attack minded, that's why we barely keep clean sheets. Now this has been worsened as they age and there are no perfect replacements.
It was one game. No need to panic,,, seriously. If it was like my team where we are constantly conceding then I would be worried. But one game where they let in 3 goals was because their defense had a bad night. And they still have the best defense in premier league. So I would not be worried at all.
Spurs? I am afraid for them seriously.
It's not just one game, Van Dijk has been playing bad for a long time.
Van Dijk didn't make as many mistakes last season as he did in the last two months.
Against Arsenal he was the worst player and Pepe gave him a lot of trouble.
Against Napoli he was directly responsible for the second goal.
Against Salzburg he was responsible for at least 2 goals.
The fact is, he plays a lot worse than last season.
Once again it turns out that Barcelona have a lot of problems in their game.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
Inter was much better in the first half and missed a great opportunity to secure the win.
Vidal's entry in the second half and the individual quality of Messi and Suarez decided the match.
Barcelona still have big problems in their game, especially when they play away.
Plus, they depend too much on one player, Messi, and that’s not good for the team’s ambitions.
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