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Quote from: Dunamisx on April 20, 2022, 03:25:34 AM

I know Benzema to be very active and versatile but when pressure mounted on him much he may not deliver as expected, as you've advise on working closely with Benzema playing strategies since he had the experience to have coach them before, football game may not result into having such strategy work at all, what if they also planned that since much concentration will be on Benzema that they should re-strategize, this time Benzema may not aim to score the goal because of the mounted pressure but rather play the role of goal assist.

What you say may be true because every club that is getting closer to the final will try to devise a different strategy in order to score goals without any pressure, but in every game Benzema will also not ignore every opportunity that exists, because if it is possible to score goals, then he will also do well because the capital to qualify for the final is the large number of goals scored by each club in the match.

Football is a team game it's very difficult to only rely on one player, and at the moment Real Madrid are like that, they are very difficult if Benzema is absent.
From the quality and consistency of these two teams I think Man City has a chance to beat Real Madrid and advance to the final, although it's not because Real Madrid is a very difficult club to beat in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on April 20, 2022, 03:25:34 AM

I know Benzema to be very active and versatile but when pressure mounted on him much he may not deliver as expected, as you've advise on working closely with Benzema playing strategies since he had the experience to have coach them before, football game may not result into having such strategy work at all, what if they also planned that since much concentration will be on Benzema that they should re-strategize, this time Benzema may not aim to score the goal because of the mounted pressure but rather play the role of goal assist.

What you say may be true because every club that is getting closer to the final will try to devise a different strategy in order to score goals without any pressure, but in every game Benzema will also not ignore every opportunity that exists, because if it is possible to score goals, then he will also do well because the capital to qualify for the final is the large number of goals scored by each club in the match.

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I am certain that Man City will face similar kinds of problems from Benzema if they don't guard him well. And after watching what Benzema has done in the Champions League this time I think they are surely going to take precautions about it. I know that it might be a little problematic in other aspects but right now stopping Benzema should be a high priority for Manchester City.

This season Benzema has warned against madrid opponents both in the league and champions league with the goals he created, especially the champions league Benzema became a striker who was quite productive in scoring the winning goal for madrid and it was seen how he was able to create a hat trick several times and only the difference one goal from Lewandowski who is the current top scorer of the Champions League, keeping Benzema tight should be done by Manchester City later if they don't want to feel the ferocity of Benzema in scoring goals, so far Benzema is Madrid strength and he can become Madrid weakness if later Manchester City could shut down the movement and leave no room for Benzema at all.

Benzema has been in excellent form this season and with what he has done to help Real Madrid grow his confidence to be able to do the same in the next games.
but the match against Man City will be a little difficult and both teams have very good quality, even Man City is more consistent this season, only Real Madrid has a very good mentality when competing in the Champions League stage.
I think this is like a final, any team that is able to advance to the final is very likely to be a champion.

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Quote from: babo on April 20, 2022, 11:32:05 AM

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I am certain that Man City will face similar kinds of problems from Benzema if they don't guard him well. And after watching what Benzema has done in the Champions League this time I think they are surely going to take precautions about it. I know that it might be a little problematic in other aspects but right now stopping Benzema should be a high priority for Manchester City.

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But what is clear is that the defense must remain focused on Benzema's movement with the ball and without the ball, this old player still has high speed so it is clear that he must remain vigilant. It is very rare or perhaps one could say that no old striker like Benzema has been able to score a hat-trick in two consecutive matches in the UCL, which is an extraordinary achievement. But even so, I personally still believe that Manchester City have a better chance of winning and qualifying for the final match.

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I also have a prediction like that which will play in the final match will be Real Madrid vs Liverpool, this is not meant to underestimate Manchester city and Villarreal even though we know they both appear so on fire and show unexpected surprises but real Madrid and Liverpool, I feel more satisfied with the experience in the Champions League, as evidenced in their quarter-final match they succeeded in getting rid of the English representatives Chelsea and Liverpool successfully got rid of Benfica, of course Real Madrid vs Liverpool final which is quite interesting for us to look forward to

It's natural, I think, that a lot of people nowadays see Real Madrid as more favorites than Man City. Because Real Madrid managed to get rid of
the previous two strong teams, Real Madrid managed to get rid of PSG in the round of 16, even though PSG was strengthened by many star players.
Then after that in the quarter-finals Real Madrid also managed to get rid of Chelsea, which Chelsea was the winner of the Champions League trophy
the previous year. That's why Real Madrid is considered to be able to get rid of Man City too, moreover Benzema is really in the best form this season,
so more and more are choosing Real Madrid to enter the final. In fact, not only did I predict Real Madrid would go to the final, I even predicted that
Real Madrid would win the Champions League trophy.

Real Madrid played really well in the previous two matches and obviously, people will think that they can beat Manchester City. I certainly do think that they have the capability of doing so.

But it is not going to be easy at all because they have to beat Manchester City which is in really great form. I think Liverpool is usually going to win against Villarreal. About to be a good question is going to be Manchester City or Real Madrid?

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Quote from: Minecache on April 20, 2022, 09:25:57 AM

I am certain that Man City will face similar kinds of problems from Benzema if they don't guard him well. And after watching what Benzema has done in the Champions League this time I think they are surely going to take precautions about it. I know that it might be a little problematic in other aspects but right now stopping Benzema should be a high priority for Manchester City.

This season Benzema has warned against madrid opponents both in the league and champions league with the goals he created, especially the champions league Benzema became a striker who was quite productive in scoring the winning goal for madrid and it was seen how he was able to create a hat trick several times and only the difference one goal from Lewandowski who is the current top scorer of the Champions League, keeping Benzema tight should be done by Manchester City later if they don't want to feel the ferocity of Benzema in scoring goals, so far Benzema is Madrid strength and he can become Madrid weakness if later Manchester City could shut down the movement and leave no room for Benzema at all.

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For the game in the future Villareal must change the strategy, because those carried out by them in the match against Bayern Munich will be different from the match against Liverpool, currently Liverpool plays very aggressive, fast and measurable, diliga themselves they are in the best game, so need to be watched out by Villarreal In the match, Liverpool is not a small club in the Champions League, they experience Champions League champions 5 times if I am not mistaken

I really don't know how Villareal should approach this match because I know that playing ultra-defensive is not going to work and I also know that going hyper-aggressive is also pretty risky against a team like Liverpool who can break really fast with the counterattack. And in the last match against Bayern Munich they have played quite aggressively and this time if they do the same I think Liverpool might expect that. It's quite a hard puzzle to solve at least for me.

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Quote from: Minecache on April 20, 2022, 09:25:57 AM

I am certain that Man City will face similar kinds of problems from Benzema if they don't guard him well. And after watching what Benzema has done in the Champions League this time I think they are surely going to take precautions about it. I know that it might be a little problematic in other aspects but right now stopping Benzema should be a high priority for Manchester City.

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Guardiola must make special guard on Benzema to prevent a goal against Man City, he had to use a tactic that had previously been used when coaching Barcelona, when Barcelona faced Man United in the 2008-2009 UCL final, Guardiola made special guarding on Ronaldo. Guardiola put Carles puyol at right-back to stop Ronaldo movement, the tactic proved to be effective, Ronaldo could not do anything throughout the match. I think Guardiola will do the same tactic against Real Madrid.

Madrid does not only have Benzema, indeed turning off Benzema's movement will make Madrid's midfield a little difficult to score goals. but placing 1 special person to guard Benzema will also open a hole in the Man City defense.
The strength of Man City is different from Barcelona first. and the opponent this time is Madrid, this is a team with a winning mentality. It would be hard to beat him too.
Many gave Man City a chance to win, but I saw in the first leg they drew. most likely the result is a draw, maybe 1-1.

I am certain that Man City will face similar kinds of problems from Benzema if they don't guard him well. And after watching what Benzema has done in the Champions League this time I think they are surely going to take precautions about it. I know that it might be a little problematic in other aspects but right now stopping Benzema should be a high priority for Manchester City.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on April 20, 2022, 08:13:35 AM

Guardiola must make special guard on Benzema to prevent a goal against Man City, he had to use a tactic that had previously been used when coaching Barcelona, when Barcelona faced Man United in the 2008-2009 UCL final, Guardiola made special guarding on Ronaldo. Guardiola put Carles puyol at right-back to stop Ronaldo movement, the tactic proved to be effective, Ronaldo could not do anything throughout the match. I think Guardiola will do the same tactic against Real Madrid.

Madrid does not only have Benzema, indeed turning off Benzema's movement will make Madrid's midfield a little difficult to score goals. but placing 1 special person to guard Benzema will also open a hole in the Man City defense.
The strength of Man City is different from Barcelona first. and the opponent this time is Madrid, this is a team with a winning mentality. It would be hard to beat him too.
Many gave Man City a chance to win, but I saw in the first leg they drew. most likely the result is a draw, maybe 1-1.

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Quote from: kro55 on April 20, 2022, 01:48:22 AM

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Coach Guardiola knows very well about Real Madrid's tactics. He is also well aware that Real Madrid's good performance depends entirely on Benzema's performance. And if Manchester City can resist Benzema, it will not be difficult for them to win. And so Guardiola will make his match strategy aimed at Benzema. If Ancelotti wants to win the match, he will have to reduce his dependence on Benzema.

Guardiola must make special guard on Benzema to prevent a goal against Man City, he had to use a tactic that had previously been used when coaching Barcelona, when Barcelona faced Man United in the 2008-2009 UCL final, Guardiola made special guarding on Ronaldo. Guardiola put Carles puyol at right-back to stop Ronaldo movement, the tactic proved to be effective, Ronaldo could not do anything throughout the match. I think Guardiola will do the same tactic against Real Madrid.

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In my opinion, although Benzema is currently often an important player for Real Madrid's victories, that doesn't mean Real Madrid only relies on Benzema, this is a team game and Real Madrid is a team that has a big mentality in the Champions League because they are the holders of the most UCL trophies.
The match against Man City is certainly very interesting because both teams have good quality and anything is still possible and I think the chances of these two teams to qualify for the final are still 50-50.

Real Madrid relied solely on Benzema's performance to reach the semi-finals. Benzema's hat-trick against PSG would have prevented Real Madrid from reaching the semi-finals. You're right, it's a team game. But Real Madrid relies on Benzema to score. And if Benzema doesn't play well, Real Madrid won't be able to win. Doesn't this mean that the team is dependent on Benzema's performance? Yet I agree with you that the chances of both teams winning are still equal. Real Madrid is also a very experienced team.

In fact, not much has changed in Real’s game before, when they won 3 Champions Leagues in a row, and now.
They used to be completely dependent on Ronaldo and his goals, and now they depend on Benzema and his goals instead.
If their previous strategy with Ronaldo was successful, why do you think this strategy with Benzema will not be successful now? Grin

It’s the obvious way Real plays and sure won't change.
Still, I think Manchester City is a more complete team with more solutions in the game and I think they have the advantage.

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Quote from: minairia3 on April 19, 2022, 11:40:44 AM

I know that the players who play in the match are the ones who have the majority of control over what will happen in that match. But till now I will say, the luck factor is always going to be there because if you are lucky you will be able to score from the most unbelievable of positions and if you are unlucky you will miss even your point-blank shots.

But, I was considering the fact that the players who are going to play in that match, if one team is better than the other then obviously the prediction is going to be north for the better team.

If you only rely on luck, then for what coaches prepare a strategy and buy great players in certain clubs, not waiting for luck will also happen as you mentioned, the fact that the football game is controlled by players, coaches and the way they prepare a strategy, If this cannot be on the road to the maximum, the game will not run as desired, and I agree, if the best team will always be a family as a winner

Quote from: Marvell1 on April 19, 2022, 01:05:46 PM

I know that a lot of people did not give Villarreal any chance in that match against Bayern Munich and I was actually one of them.

But I really think that in this match there are not going to be any surprises and Liverpool should win this match against Villarreal. And I am not going to be surprised if I see Villareal trying the same tactics that tried against Bayern Munich. Because they know very well that if they sit behind and play defensive they will eventually lose that match so it is better to go down swinging.

For the game in the future Villareal must change the strategy, because those carried out by them in the match against Bayern Munich will be different from the match against Liverpool, currently Liverpool plays very aggressive, fast and measurable, diliga themselves they are in the best game, so need to be watched out by Villarreal In the match, Liverpool is not a small club in the Champions League, they experience Champions League champions 5 times if I am not mistaken

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on April 20, 2022, 04:00:57 AM

In my opinion, although Benzema is currently often an important player for Real Madrid's victories, that doesn't mean Real Madrid only relies on Benzema, this is a team game and Real Madrid is a team that has a big mentality in the Champions League because they are the holders of the most UCL trophies.
The match against Man City is certainly very interesting because both teams have good quality and anything is still possible and I think the chances of these two teams to qualify for the final are still 50-50.

Real Madrid relied solely on Benzema's performance to reach the semi-finals. Benzema's hat-trick against PSG would have prevented Real Madrid from reaching the semi-finals. You're right, it's a team game. But Real Madrid relies on Benzema to score. And if Benzema doesn't play well, Real Madrid won't be able to win. Doesn't this mean that the team is dependent on Benzema's performance? Yet I agree with you that the chances of both teams winning are still equal. Real Madrid is also a very experienced team.

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Agreed, it's not only me who doubts Villareal, because even though they reached the semi-final points it has done them a lot of miracles. Liverpool is a tough club, disciplined and easier to control emotions. So I won't doubt the mentality of the Liverpool players on the pitch. Especially with Klopp's strategic game, which is always easy to get up to reverse the opponent's pressure.

Liverpool are favorites for this season's Champions League final and if they make it to the final then I'm sure they will win the title this season. I just want Liverpool to play as expected and not underestimate Villarreal because to be honest Villarreal can still score goals and survive until the end of the match.

Besides I want Liverpool to be in the final, I also want Manchester City to reach another final this season and try to win the title. Regardless of whether they are successful or not this season but the game against Madrid is a game that might be called the pre-final of this season.

I think the proper semifinals fixture for this season champion's league should have been Liverpool Vs Bayern Munich and Manchester city Vs Real Madrid but Bayern Munich underestimated Villarreal and that empowered Villarreal to knock them out. Real Madrid vs Manchester Ciy fixture is easily the favorite fixture every fan want to see because of the strengths of both team.

That has passed, now Villarreal are sitting in the semi-finals even though they are not seeded but they are still strong and become dark horses there.
With their performance I would not dare underestimate them for now because if you look at the 2 clubs they beat before, it is proof that their game is very good and the tactics they apply are really good.
Liverpool have to be careful even if they are seeded Villarreal is still difficult to predict later

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For me, Man City vs Real Madrid was the ideal final, but well, we'll see how things are, however now we can realize something, that from here whoever wins, 'for me, I'll be the owner of the orejona, However, it is not to underestimate the added value that Villareal or perhaps Liverpool has, but here we will find two great teams, two of the best in their respective leagues, both Real Madrid and Man City are in these At the moment the best teams in the world that exist and that have many great things to do, these semis are going to be very exciting, for me I go for Real Madrid, but I know that Peop Guardiola knows very well how the madridistas play and that is a point in favor of City.

Coach Guardiola knows very well about Real Madrid's tactics. He is also well aware that Real Madrid's good performance depends entirely on Benzema's performance. And if Manchester City can resist Benzema, it will not be difficult for them to win. And so Guardiola will make his match strategy aimed at Benzema. If Ancelotti wants to win the match, he will have to reduce his dependence on Benzema.

I know Benzema to be very active and versatile but when pressure mounted on him much he may not deliver as expected, as you've advise on working closely with Benzema playing strategies since he had the experience to have coach them before, football game may not result into having such strategy work at all, what if they also planned that since much concentration will be on Benzema that they should re-strategize, this time Benzema may not aim to score the goal because of the mounted pressure but rather play the role of goal assist.

In my opinion, although Benzema is currently often an important player for Real Madrid's victories, that doesn't mean Real Madrid only relies on Benzema, this is a team game and Real Madrid is a team that has a big mentality in the Champions League because they are the holders of the most UCL trophies.
The match against Man City is certainly very interesting because both teams have good quality and anything is still possible and I think the chances of these two teams to qualify for the final are still 50-50.

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Actually all predicting on Semifinal to see match between Liverpool vs Bayern Munich but Villareal become most surprise team with drop performance on domestic league but can eliminated top team like Juventus and Bayern Munich for leading to semifinal.

Yep it was an upset, no one predict Villarreal can win over Bayern Munich since Villarreal aren't that strong on the previous match. Actually Bayern Munich already dominating the ball and shoots more in order to get more goal, but they were unlucky since they only got one goal. It's really disappointed when in the last minutes, Villarreal can scored on the second leg and won the match.

Quote from: kro55 on April 20, 2022, 01:48:22 AM

Coach Guardiola knows very well about Real Madrid's tactics. He is also well aware that Real Madrid's good performance depends entirely on Benzema's performance. And if Manchester City can resist Benzema, it will not be difficult for them to win. And so Guardiola will make his match strategy aimed at Benzema. If Ancelotti wants to win the match, he will have to reduce his dependence on Benzema.

I agree, Benzema is the key on Real Madrid scorer right now, he was the executor while the other strikers only support him to shoot.

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For me, Man City vs Real Madrid was the ideal final, but well, we'll see how things are, however now we can realize something, that from here whoever wins, 'for me, I'll be the owner of the orejona, However, it is not to underestimate the added value that Villareal or perhaps Liverpool has, but here we will find two great teams, two of the best in their respective leagues, both Real Madrid and Man City are in these At the moment the best teams in the world that exist and that have many great things to do, these semis are going to be very exciting, for me I go for Real Madrid, but I know that Peop Guardiola knows very well how the madridistas play and that is a point in favor of City.

Coach Guardiola knows very well about Real Madrid's tactics. He is also well aware that Real Madrid's good performance depends entirely on Benzema's performance. And if Manchester City can resist Benzema, it will not be difficult for them to win. And so Guardiola will make his match strategy aimed at Benzema. If Ancelotti wants to win the match, he will have to reduce his dependence on Benzema.

I know Benzema to be very active and versatile but when pressure mounted on him much he may not deliver as expected, as you've advise on working closely with Benzema playing strategies since he had the experience to have coach them before, football game may not result into having such strategy work at all, what if they also planned that since much concentration will be on Benzema that they should re-strategize, this time Benzema may not aim to score the goal because of the mounted pressure but rather play the role of goal assist.

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I think the proper semifinals fixture for this season champion's league should have been Liverpool Vs Bayern Munich and Manchester city Vs Real Madrid but Bayern Munich underestimated Villarreal and that empowered Villarreal to knock them out. Real Madrid vs Manchester Ciy fixture is easily the favorite fixture every fan want to see because of the strengths of both team.

Actually all predicting on Semifinal to see match between Liverpool vs Bayern Munich but Villareal become most surprise team with drop performance on domestic league but can eliminated top team like Juventus and Bayern Munich for leading to semifinal. Still left two weeks later before semifinal first leg begin and four team have already for getting good result. I can't easy for predicting match between Liverpool vs Villareal after how success defeated two top team and will be Liverpool the next top team eliminating by Villareal.

While other people are looking forward to the Real Madrid v Manchester City match, I personally have an interest in Villarreal. Also, most of those I read here say Liverpool will be the next team that Villarreal might get rid of, but I personally don't agree with that. Previously, when Villarreal managed to get rid of Juventus and Bayern Munich, I personally saw that the two big teams were indeed declining in performance. In contrast to Liverpool I really believe Klopp will be able to stop Villarreal in the semi-finals and Liverpool will get the win, anyway I personally have no doubts about Liverpool's current performance they are in their best form.

I also think Klopp will be able to stop Villarreal. But it will not be easy at all. Klopp must study Villarreal's past match tactics. Then Klopp's match strategy needs to be fixed. And if Liverpool can move forward with the right match tactics, it will not be difficult to beat Villarreal. Because the Villarreal team is not very strong as a squad. Comparing the players in the two squads, of course, Liverpool will be far ahead.

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Quote from: Bobrox on April 20, 2022, 12:47:38 AM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on April 19, 2022, 11:32:09 PM

I think the proper semifinals fixture for this season champion's league should have been Liverpool Vs Bayern Munich and Manchester city Vs Real Madrid but Bayern Munich underestimated Villarreal and that empowered Villarreal to knock them out. Real Madrid vs Manchester Ciy fixture is easily the favorite fixture every fan want to see because of the strengths of both team.

Actually all predicting on Semifinal to see match between Liverpool vs Bayern Munich but Villareal become most surprise team with drop performance on domestic league but can eliminated top team like Juventus and Bayern Munich for leading to semifinal. Still left two weeks later before semifinal first leg begin and four team have already for getting good result. I can't easy for predicting match between Liverpool vs Villareal after how success defeated two top team and will be Liverpool the next top team eliminating by Villareal.

While other people are looking forward to the Real Madrid v Manchester City match, I personally have an interest in Villarreal. Also, most of those I read here say Liverpool will be the next team that Villarreal might get rid of, but I personally don't agree with that. Previously, when Villarreal managed to get rid of Juventus and Bayern Munich, I personally saw that the two big teams were indeed declining in performance. In contrast to Liverpool I really believe Klopp will be able to stop Villarreal in the semi-finals and Liverpool will get the win, anyway I personally have no doubts about Liverpool's current performance they are in their best form.

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