UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 215.

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Quote from: Alanaz on April 16, 2022, 05:09:15 PM

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Liverpool - Villarreal matchup also seems to be tricky actually because Villarreal eliminated very big teams like Juventus and Bayern Munich before this round in the Champions League. They have a big experience against stronger teams in this tournament as a result. But Liverpool are a way more different opponent than them. Villarreal can have a really hard time defending their attacking players indeed. Maybe it seems to be too hard for Villarreal to eliminate Liverpool also but I still appreciate their journey so far so much.

Liverpool Villarreal may look like a tough match for Villarreal but haven't seen how the club played against other stronger clubs and has survived it am hopeful they're going to give Liverpool a runoff and even if Liverpool wins it will not be an easy one.

Well this is a basic assumption, don't forget when Bayern faced Villarreal almost everyone said this. I think it can be used as a lesson for Liverpool that Villareal is not an easy team to beat. Emery's strategy was really great and should be with them getting to the semi-finals I don't think there is any reason to underestimate Villarreal now

To be honest for me Villarreal are really a very strong team, after they got rid of Juventus, I think Villarreal were lucky. But after Villarreal got rid of
Bayern, I started to change my view of Villarreal. Beating two strong teams has proven that Villarreal is a team that Liverpool cannot underestimate.
Even though Liverpool had an extraordinary performance, if they underestimated Villarreal, they would have the same fate as Bayern. Emery's strategy
has proven to be effective in making it difficult for Bayern to score goals, even though we know Bayern are a very productive team. But Villarreal's
defense is so strong, finally made Bayern only able to score one goal when facing Villarreal in the two legs that were played. This is a lesson for Liverpool
to play more carefully against Villarreal, I agree Liverpool will have a hard time beating Villarreal. Even if Liverpool qualify for the final, they will only win
on aggregate by a single goal difference.

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For the draw between Liverpool and Villarreal, I believe that Liverpool are very close to advancing to final round in the Champions League. Villarreal might not be that strong against them this time. Or I can put it this way: Liverpool would dominate the game in Anfield for certain. But as for the game in Spain, Villarreal would show a strong performance against them and wouldn't lose easily.

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Liverpool - Villarreal matchup also seems to be tricky actually because Villarreal eliminated very big teams like Juventus and Bayern Munich before this round in the Champions League. They have a big experience against stronger teams in this tournament as a result. But Liverpool are a way more different opponent than them. Villarreal can have a really hard time defending their attacking players indeed. Maybe it seems to be too hard for Villarreal to eliminate Liverpool also but I still appreciate their journey so far so much.

Liverpool Villarreal may look like a tough match for Villarreal but haven't seen how the club played against other stronger clubs and has survived it am hopeful they're going to give Liverpool a runoff and even if Liverpool wins it will not be an easy one.

Well this is a basic assumption, don't forget when Bayern faced Villarreal almost everyone said this. I think it can be used as a lesson for Liverpool that Villareal is not an easy team to beat. Emery's strategy was really great and should be with them getting to the semi-finals I don't think there is any reason to underestimate Villarreal now

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Quote from: bekti3 on April 16, 2022, 02:20:26 PM

I wish it was like this actually because I wanted the Madrdi Final with Liverpool Cheesy

But even so we also can not underestimate the City now. Pep guardianola's men are very strong, indeed they reached the Final last season and now they are also very solid so it is still impossible to predict who will win.

I also think the same, the ideal final should be Real Madrid vs Liverpool. I don't determine it because I am a Real Madrid fan, but I assume it based on the possibility of those teams reaching the final round. I don't underestimate Man City and Villareal, they also have the chance to reach the final. But if we analyze their players' quality and their strategy during this season, looks like Real Madrid and Liverpool to defeat them. Once again, it is my own analysis, don't take into the heart for the fans of Man City or Villareal. Cheesy

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Quote from: judas on April 16, 2022, 03:05:05 PM

Liverpool - Villarreal matchup also seems to be tricky actually because Villarreal eliminated very big teams like Juventus and Bayern Munich before this round in the Champions League. They have a big experience against stronger teams in this tournament as a result. But Liverpool are a way more different opponent than them. Villarreal can have a really hard time defending their attacking players indeed. Maybe it seems to be too hard for Villarreal to eliminate Liverpool also but I still appreciate their journey so far so much.

Liverpool Villarreal may look like a tough match for Villarreal but haven't seen how the club played against other stronger clubs and has survived it am hopeful they're going to give Liverpool a runoff and even if Liverpool wins it will not be an easy one.

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Man City consistency will be tested against Madrid because for me Madrid very strong this season and while Man City only eleminated the teams such as Sporting CP and Atletico but Madrid was successfully eleminated strong teams such as PSG and Chelsea and in fact Madrid is the most successful team in champions league with 13 trophies so i personally considers Madrid is the favourite to win the match and went to final match

Looking at Madrid's performance now, I think they can become one of the clubs that are indeed favored after they had been giving surprises before.
Chelsea and PSG were the early seeds and they were knocked out by Madrid. Now man. City are definitely the favourites, but if you look at the struggle, Madrid is now much tougher because, as you said, City can be said to have had quite an easy opponent before.
It's going to be tough I hope Madrid can keep surprises here because I still hope Madrid and Liverpool are in the Final

I am sure that everyone has high expectations from Real because of how well they played recently, first beating PSG then beating Chelsea and it looks like they could win it all. They are a perfect tournament team and they keep winning UCL and that is why everyone looks at them differently there.

However, the reality is that we should be focusing on the fact that City is not a bad team neither, yes there is a chance Real could win, but there is also a chance that we could see City dominating the game as well. Pep is used to playing against Madrid and he will be ready to beat them, it is "basically" the same team and he will be capable of finding holes in their system and beat them. Maybe it is not that easy, but it is not impossible neither.

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Liverpool - Villarreal matchup also seems to be tricky actually because Villarreal eliminated very big teams like Juventus and Bayern Munich before this round in the Champions League. They have a big experience against stronger teams in this tournament as a result. But Liverpool are a way more different opponent than them. Villarreal can have a really hard time defending their attacking players indeed. Maybe it seems to be too hard for Villarreal to eliminate Liverpool also but I still appreciate their journey so far so much.

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The last time City and Madrid played against each other, City won 1-2 in Madrid. But Madrid did lead in that match. In fact, if you look at the lineups, I think Madrid has a stronger team than City. Modric is of the outside category, he is perhaps even better than de Bruyne. He was nowhere to be seen last game but did score the most important goal last week in the first game. What we do know for sure is that it will be 2 open matches, Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid both play completely different.

I'm not going to look at history now because in the previous rounds Chelsea had a better history against Madrid but the reality is they lost.
now these two teams are two giants in their respective domestic leagues who still hold the title of interim champion and I think this will be a bit exciting because apart from prestige this will also be related to their future in UCL.

Should not see what last match result both team between Manchester City or Real Madrid although on last champion league season Real Madrid have kick by Manchester City. I think have potential on this semifinal time Real Madrid could lead to final and have close dreaming for Manchester City how to get Champion League trophy. Last round on quarter final Manchester City just created 1 goal only when first leg play as home, different with Real Madrid can make 5 goals where 3 goal as away and 2 goals on home match.

I wish it was like this actually because I wanted the Madrdi Final with Liverpool Cheesy

But even so we also can not underestimate the City now. Pep guardianola's men are very strong, indeed they reached the Final last season and now they are also very solid so it is still impossible to predict who will win.
Madrid won against Chelsea and PSG in the previous round thanks to Benzema who managed to create many goals there. when City can anticipate this it will be very dangerous for Madrid

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There is still plenty of time for the 4 clubs to really show their best performance. Whoever passes must be the best and deserve a seat to the Finals. Moreover, 2 legs will definitely have a win rate that is difficult to predict. April 27 should be the point where Manchester City vs Real Madrid is in absolutely optimal condition.

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Had a quick view at the replays of the game between Chelsea and Real Madrid.
Tuchel should be the cause fir that game, as I will hold him responsible, as a coach you should know when to attack and when to defend, especially when you're Winning.
Chelsea needed two goals but they had three, before the scire was three one , Tuchel should have made some changes to start defending.
Substitute Loftus Cheek and Mason mount, because it was obvious Kante was tired, could be as a result if fasting during the Ramadan.

I don't think so, Chelsea coach Tuchel has done his best but the mentality and the Real Madrid club are hard to beat. no one is to blame because Real Madrid deserved this victory, and also Real Madrid's goal that was created in the 2nd leg was not the fault of the Chelsea players but the fruit of the hard work of the Real Madrid players, modric in particular who provided a brilliant assist.

I agree with you. Tuchel has tried his best. Despite falling behind in the first leg, Chelsea's performance in the second leg was quite good. They were able to score three goals. It was not easy to score 3 goals against Real at the Bernabeu. Moreover, Real Madrid played in this match with a completely defensive strategy. Chelsea failed to qualify for the semi-finals due to poor performance in the first leg.

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Quote from: watergold on April 15, 2022, 11:22:03 PM

Villarreal have been a very surprising team in the Champions League this season, because they were able to get rid of a team like Bayern Munich who from the start they were favorites in this Champions League title. But who would have thought that they would be eliminated by a team that was not seeded at all. I don't see any luck for Villarreal, because they can hold Bayern Munich two legs at a time, so I think their strategy is working well.

If we recall the magnificent victory over Juventus, which became very strong after the transfer window, then this victory is quite logical. Not in the sense that Villarreal >> Bayern, but in the sense that it is not weak at all and any club should be wary of it. Liverpool won't have an easy walk against it either. By the way, Liverpool's quotes are completely the same as Bayern's quotes, if I remember correctly:

UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - Liverpool FC reach the Final?

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Quote from: D-law on April 16, 2022, 07:09:08 AM

Had a quick view at the replays of the game between Chelsea and Real Madrid.
Tuchel should be the cause fir that game, as I will hold him responsible, as a coach you should know when to attack and when to defend, especially when you're Winning.
Chelsea needed two goals but they had three, before the scire was three one , Tuchel should have made some changes to start defending.
Substitute Loftus Cheek and Mason mount, because it was obvious Kante was tired, could be as a result if fasting during the Ramadan.

I don't think so, Chelsea coach Tuchel has done his best but the mentality and the Real Madrid club are hard to beat. no one is to blame because Real Madrid deserved this victory, and also Real Madrid's goal that was created in the 2nd leg was not the fault of the Chelsea players but the fruit of the hard work of the Real Madrid players, modric in particular who provided a brilliant assist.

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Quote from: bering on April 16, 2022, 02:33:52 AM

Man City consistency will be tested against Madrid because for me Madrid very strong this season and while Man City only eleminated the teams such as Sporting CP and Atletico but Madrid was successfully eleminated strong teams such as PSG and Chelsea and in fact Madrid is the most successful team in champions league with 13 trophies so i personally considers Madrid is the favourite to win the match and went to final match

Looking at Madrid's performance now, I think they can become one of the clubs that are indeed favored after they had been giving surprises before.
Chelsea and PSG were the early seeds and they were knocked out by Madrid. Now man. City are definitely the favourites, but if you look at the struggle, Madrid is now much tougher because, as you said, City can be said to have had quite an easy opponent before.
It's going to be tough I hope Madrid can keep surprises here because I still hope Madrid and Liverpool are in the Final

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on April 16, 2022, 05:43:33 AM

Real Madrid also has a strong desire to add to its collection of champion league trophies this year. I'm not sure if Manchester City will be able to get to the final this year despite their good game this year.

The game will be even more interesting, it's hard to guess because all these teams are the best. But in 3 matches Madrid always lose. But that's just history that might change for April 27. I hope Madrid can score in the first leg. That would be beneficial for the 2nd leg at the Santiago Bernabeu. But I'm always worried, madrid always struggle against teams with short ball games like Man City.

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Quote from: D-law on April 16, 2022, 07:09:08 AM

Had a quick view at the replays of the game between Chelsea and Real Madrid.
Tuchel should be the cause fir that game, as I will hold him responsible, as a coach you should know when to attack and when to defend, especially when you're Winning.
Chelsea needed two goals but they had three, before the scire was three one , Tuchel should have made some changes to start defending.
Substitute Loftus Cheek and Mason mount, because it was obvious Kante was tired, could be as a result if fasting during the Ramadan.

Tuchel did the right things in this game in my opinion. I mean yes they were 3-0 up and could have played a little bit more defensive but if he would have changed 2 offensive players for 2 defenders or something like that then this would have also been wrong in my opinion, because if you are doing such changes it also always is an indirect signal to his team that could have unsettled his team. They were doing pretty well and i guess therefore Tuchel did not want to interfere into that.
Also just look at where Chelsea was before Tuchel became their coach. He is really doing an awesome job their so i doubt that anyone is really blaming Tuchel at the moment.

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Quote from: D-law on April 16, 2022, 07:09:08 AM

Had a quick view at the replays of the game between Chelsea and Real Madrid.
Tuchel should be the cause fir that game, as I will hold him responsible, as a coach you should know when to attack and when to defend, especially when you're Winning.
Chelsea needed two goals but they had three, before the scire was three one , Tuchel should have made some changes to start defending.
Substitute Loftus Cheek and Mason mount, because it was obvious Kante was tired, could be as a result if fasting during the Ramadan.

I think we don't deserve to blame Tuchel for the defeat, because after all Tuchel has done a good job especially Chelsea are currently in a bad condition due to internal problems, with many problems that hit Chelsea but Tuchel was still able to bring Chelsea to the quarter-finals and that we deserve appreciation, apart from that I think madrid deserved to win because indeed the quality of the madrid squad is more experienced than the chelsea squad which is mostly filled by young players, in terms of the actual game chelsea is superior in my opinion but they are just unlucky in terms of scoring goals,so In this case we should not blame anyone including Tuchel as a coach.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on April 16, 2022, 05:43:33 AM

Manchester City fans around the world hope this year's Champions League will be their first trophy in history and Pep Guardiola will become the first Manchester City coach in history to win the Champions League trophy.
Real Madrid also has a strong desire to add to its collection of champion league trophies this year. I'm not sure if Manchester City will be able to get to the final this year despite their good game this year.

both teams are also strong candidates for champions in their domestic league. Madrid can almost be said they have become champions. because it differs quite far from the points obtained by Barca. while City still maintains their position in the standings with pressure from Liverpool.
Madrid psychologically should be able to play without a burden. they will be able to focus on the semi-final match. but City should also think about the EPL trophy.
both this season have the opportunity to pair 2 trophies at once. but unfortunately, the second meeting will only leave 1 of them who will enter the final.

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It was seen like this last year, but Chelsea had won the cup. This year, Liverpool will probably be in the final. Manchester City will have to beat Liverpool if they reach the final. Likewise, a defeat would be even more upsetting for Pep Guardiola. Frankly, my thought for the final is that there will be a Manchester City-Liverpool match. Let's see together, will Karim Benzema and Real Madrid eliminate Manchester City?

First of all, I don't think any of the four teams in the semi-finals are weak. All four teams are strong. And since Villarreal have won against Bayern Munich, they also have the potential to win against Liverpool. So Liverpool must perform well if they want to win.
The match between Real Madrid and Manchester City will be competitive. If Benzema is in full form and can play well, it will not be easy for City to win the match.

Interesting, if Manchester City will play against a team from the EPL in the UCL final, it's like repeating what happened last season. As far as I remember, last season Manchester City won in the EPL match against Chelsea before the UCL final and until finally many predicted Manchester City would also win in the UCL final because of the great victory they got in the EPL. Now, Manchester City's position in the EPL is also the same, they are at the top of the table and against Liverpool previously it can be said that Manchester City is still the best despite the draw. If later in the UCL final they fight again and Manchester City lose, then it's like repeating the mistakes like the previous season. Interesting to look forward to!

The context of the previous season is completely different. Manchester City were the favorites to win the Champions League last season. They played great all season. But unfortunately they lost in the final. Manchester City's performance in the final or semi-final is weak. I don't know why. Perhaps the players have lost confidence. Challenging for Manchester City to reach the final this season. Because in the Champions League I think Real Madrid is more experienced than Manchester City. Still, I hope Manchester City does well this season. Beacuse I want that City will win at least one Champions League trophy.

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Had a quick view at the replays of the game between Chelsea and Real Madrid.
Tuchel should be the cause fir that game, as I will hold him responsible, as a coach you should know when to attack and when to defend, especially when you're Winning.
Chelsea needed two goals but they had three, before the scire was three one , Tuchel should have made some changes to start defending.
Substitute Loftus Cheek and Mason mount, because it was obvious Kante was tired, could be as a result if fasting during the Ramadan.

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Man City consistency will be tested against Madrid because for me Madrid very strong this season and while Man City only eleminated the teams such as Sporting CP and Atletico but Madrid was successfully eleminated strong teams such as PSG and Chelsea and in fact Madrid is the most successful team in champions league with 13 trophies so i personally considers Madrid is the favourite to win the match and went to final match

History has recorded that Real Madrid is the club with the most Champions League trophies and Manchester City has become strong and entertained since under coach Pep Guardiola. As a coach, Pep Guardiola has experienced how it feels to lift the Champions League trophy, but not with Manchester City.
If Real Madrid will be the opponent in the semifinals, Manchester City's dream will not necessarily come true because, as you said, Manchester City's journey to the semifinals only faced a relatively easy club.
Unlike the Real Madrid trip.

but this season is very different, if you look at the game and consistency of the two teams, Man City is currently superior to real Madrid, but the mentality of Real Madrid when competing on the UCL stage is so big that it makes it difficult for opponents to beat them. I think these two teams have the same opportunity to be able to step into the final.

Manchester City fans around the world hope this year's Champions League will be their first trophy in history and Pep Guardiola will become the first Manchester City coach in history to win the Champions League trophy.
Real Madrid also has a strong desire to add to its collection of champion league trophies this year. I'm not sure if Manchester City will be able to get to the final this year despite their good game this year.

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