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Quote from: lulumiya on December 14, 2021, 03:47:21 PM

PSG can have a really hard time after seeing their opponent. Real Madrid are one of the most in-form teams now. They are not doing a good job only in the La Liga. They have been very good in the Champions League also so far. Maybe two of their opponents were not that tough but they succeeded in defeating Inter two times. Benzema is having one of this best times now. PSG should play really wisely against them to continue in this tournament.

The fixture is an interesting one ofcourse. I tip Real Madrid to qualify for the next round. Their form is superb both in Laliga and Champions league. When it comes to Champions league, those guys are more grounded in experience than any club.
However, they don't need to relax because they are playing against the thirsty side.
In all, I am not just happy that one of the good teams will crash out in the round 16.
But if it's my wish, PSG should succeed.

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PSG can have a really hard time after seeing their opponent. Real Madrid are one of the most in-form teams now. They are not doing a good job only in the La Liga. They have been very good in the Champions League also so far. Maybe two of their opponents were not that tough but they succeeded in defeating Inter two times. Benzema is having one of this best times now. PSG should play really wisely against them to continue in this tournament.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 14, 2021, 03:19:22 PM

Inter - Liverpool is also an interesting matchup as far as I can see. Liverpool should never underestimate them in both games. Otherwise, they would screw things up for themselves for sure. Inter are playing very well especially nowadays. Maybe they lost to Real Madrid in Santiago Bernabeu but I see it as a normal incident as it is difficult to beat Real Madrid there in this season. The game in Giuseppe Meazza can be really be crucial for this matchup. But after both games, I still believe in Liverpool to advance to the next stage.

Both teams has good game records and it wouldn't be an easy match for both team. Much is expected from both clubs and as such we should be an interesting match one with lots of classical performance for me in games like this any team can win it easier to predict a GG as both teams will definitely score

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Inter - Liverpool is also an interesting matchup as far as I can see. Liverpool should never underestimate them in both games. Otherwise, they would screw things up for themselves for sure. Inter are playing very well especially nowadays. Maybe they lost to Real Madrid in Santiago Bernabeu but I see it as a normal incident as it is difficult to beat Real Madrid there in this season. The game in Giuseppe Meazza can be really be crucial for this matchup. But after both games, I still believe in Liverpool to advance to the next stage.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 14, 2021, 01:35:31 PM

As I can see now, most people are waiting for especially the PSG vs Real Madrid matches in last 16. And I must admit that it can be a really fascinating matchup. PSG have a big advantage in the match in Parc des Princes obviously and it is going to be very critical for them to make use of this advantage before going to Santiago Bernabeu. If they make a huge mistake like drawing with or losing to Real Madrid, then a much tougher match will be waiting for PSG in the rematch.

From the existing head to head, Real Madrid actually has a good record against PSG, because in the six meetings between Real Madrid and PSG, Real Madrid was able to win three wins, while PSG was only able to win one game and two matches ended in a draw, but of course now the two teams have many differences, including in terms of the depth of the current squad of the two teams, mbappe, messi, neymar, ramos and donnarumma are former players who are quite experienced in the champions league, while madrid who still relies on benzema and several young players Of course, it will be difficult to face PSG later, especially in my opinion, Madrid performance in the Champions League this season is far from perfect.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 14, 2021, 01:50:32 PM

Quote from: jakdanyel on December 14, 2021, 01:35:31 PM

As I can see now, most people are waiting for especially the PSG vs Real Madrid matches in last 16. And I must admit that it can be a really fascinating matchup. PSG have a big advantage in the match in Parc des Princes obviously and it is going to be very critical for them to make use of this advantage before going to Santiago Bernabeu. If they make a huge mistake like drawing with or losing to Real Madrid, then a much tougher match will be waiting for PSG in the rematch.

For me in this pair, Real is the clear favorite. In France, there may be a draw, but in Spain, Real will beat the Parisians. Ancelotti set up the game very well in the team, in this state they are able to defeat many opponents. And at PSG, I still think that the team game is not well established, there are too many stars who play well individually, but as a team they are weaker than Real. Pochatino is not the kind of coach who can manage such a team efficiently.

Mauricio Pochettino has never coached a team with many star players before, so PSG is the first big team coached by Pochettino. So it is very visible
that Pochettino is very difficult to control PSG players, I don't see the cooperation of PSG players being solid. It's very different when Pochettino was
Tottenham coach, the collaboration between Tottenham players was more compact. So even though PSG have a lot of star players, I predict it will be
difficult to face Real Madrid. Moreover, Carlo Ancelotti is an experienced coach, has led AC Milan and Real Madrid to win the Champions League trophy.
So my prediction is that Real Madrid can beat PSG, as you said most of the star players at PSG play too individually. After all, football is a game that
requires solid cooperation between players. So it's clear that Real Madrid, whose teamwork is much better than PSG, will be able to beat PSG.

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There is another draw which has a big potential to be quite interesting. I'm talking about the Atletico Madrid - Manchester United one. These teams are not at their best performance level recently. Atletico Madrid hardly managed to qualify for last 16. And they've had big problems in the La Liga recently too. And as for Manchester United, they've made a manager change and it can take some time for them to reach their real power. There is still a long period of time of course but I'll be seeing Manchester United as the closest side to move on for now.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 14, 2021, 12:25:15 PM

Don't forget that Madrid has started the season as of 2014-15 which was under Ancelotti as well. [...]

Are you talking about a winning streak of 22 matches? Then Barça was on the heels of Real ... now I am more optimistic because the closest competitor Real has very difficult matches ahead against such teams as Atlético, Barça, and Valencia, while Real has already overcome these difficulties. Ancelotti does not even need to strain, he only needs to keep the team in good shape and win at least a third of the upcoming matches, which is more than real. How many of you guys have already talked about this, but you did not mention that Ancelotti is no longer young and for him this is a great chance to live a couple of more years feeling in demand.

In general, let's see how the events will develop, perhaps in a year Mbappa will join Real Madrid, then in this case Ancelotti will stay afloat as a coach for more than one year.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 14, 2021, 09:10:43 AM

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By what indicators is PSG better than Real? The local championship can be ignored - this year PSG have no competitors there, in the Champions League group they performed less confidently than Real Madrid and took only second place showing a weak game against City. In my opinion, at the moment Real looks clearly better.

His indicators seems to be came from the overall squad where there are more popular players in PSG than in Real Madrid.
If we look at the overall performance in both local league and UCL of both PSG and Real Madrid, I have to say that Real Madrid is better.
However, there is still plenty of time for both team to improve before the 1st leg.

If we compare the “squad”, then in terms of the aggregate cost of the squad, United will be better (if I remember correctly) both Real Madrid and PSG, but we know that now United is far from that. In any case, this is an even, interesting pair, and soon when the bookmakers start accepting bets on this match, we will see who, according to experts, will be the favorite here.

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I would say PSG versus Real Madrid will be the most fun for sure, Liverpool and Inter seems not so bad neither, I know most people expect Liverpool to beat Inter but I am guessing it will be close games. Ajax and Benfica game will not be as talented players for sure, but it will be close games too if you ask me, United vs ATM will be close game as well, specially with United not being so great lately I am guessing it will be quite a close matchup, Juventus and Villareal same as well, that seems like a close one.

The only games I see that are normally not so close looking would be Chelsea vs Lille, Chelsea should get it easily if nothing unexpected happens, City vs Lisbon which City should get very easily, and obviously Bayern vs Salzburg which I guess Bayern would win by a big mile for sure, that seems like the only game that is clear cut.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 14, 2021, 01:35:31 PM

As I can see now, most people are waiting for especially the PSG vs Real Madrid matches in last 16. And I must admit that it can be a really fascinating matchup. PSG have a big advantage in the match in Parc des Princes obviously and it is going to be very critical for them to make use of this advantage before going to Santiago Bernabeu. If they make a huge mistake like drawing with or losing to Real Madrid, then a much tougher match will be waiting for PSG in the rematch.

For me in this pair, Real is the clear favorite. In France, there may be a draw, but in Spain, Real will beat the Parisians. Ancelotti set up the game very well in the team, in this state they are able to defeat many opponents. And at PSG, I still think that the team game is not well established, there are too many stars who play well individually, but as a team they are weaker than Real. Pochatino is not the kind of coach who can manage such a team efficiently.

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As I can see now, most people are waiting for especially the PSG vs Real Madrid matches in last 16. And I must admit that it can be a really fascinating matchup. PSG have a big advantage in the match in Parc des Princes obviously and it is going to be very critical for them to make use of this advantage before going to Santiago Bernabeu. If they make a huge mistake like drawing with or losing to Real Madrid, then a much tougher match will be waiting for PSG in the rematch.

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Quote from: Juse14 on December 14, 2021, 12:53:41 PM

Quote from: Bilgent on December 14, 2021, 07:32:57 AM

PSG - Real Madrid is a matchup that everything can happen in. Of course, most people are waiting for PSG to move Real Madrid out of their way and even win the title at the end. But as of this stage of the Champions League we should get ready for surprising results also. For example, Bayern Munich were one of the biggest favourites of last season but they were eliminated by PSG.

this is the fight i look forward to in this round.
anything can happen but I will give my bet to Real Madrid now.
There's no need for a long reason because I am a fan of Madrid Cheesy

Apart from that, their performance is also more impressive than PSG in the UCL.
I hope Sergio plays in this Madrid game against PSG because I haven't seen him play in a long time, besides that it would be quite epic if he played at PSG against madrid

Real Madrid's performance so far has been extraordinary under Carlo Ancelotti, they have succeeded in being at the top of the La Liga standings this season, where we can say that Real Madrid is currently on fire, but this is in contrast to their opponent Paris Saint-Germain. a player where they still haven't found a performance after the arrival of Lionel Messi to the part of the prince stadium even though they are currently at the top of the French league standings with a number of points that are quite far from their rivals, but this cannot be used as a benchmark considering the French league lower than the Spanish league, but Real Madrid should not underestimate PSG because the current material for PSG's players is much better after the arrival of Leonel Messi to the club based in the capital.this is indeed an attractive price for us to look forward to meeting the two

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Quote from: hahay on December 14, 2021, 03:29:25 AM

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I wonder when the bookmakers will give quotes for the upcoming round of 16 matches? I don't think there will be many people who want to freeze their money for such a period now, but I would be interested to see how the teams' chances are assessed now and how they will change immediately before the match. I think that some teams (for example Manchester United) can seriously change their game and become stronger opponents.

That's still a long time like two months longer and if the odds are opened from now on then I'm sure it's impossible, unlike the case with the title winning team bet that could have been made at the beginning of the season. But for a game like this and the start time is still long and also, there are still a lot of games to be played during that period which makes it possible for many factors to change from injured players and any changes and it's not just about one team.

I understand this and I have observed many times when the odds have changed significantly even at shorter distances. But as we know, the bookmakers balance the acceptance of bets in such a way that, whatever the outcome, they remain in the black. Why don't they do it now? At any given time, it will only be important for them to maintain the correct balance of the taken bets.

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Quote from: Bilgent on December 14, 2021, 07:32:57 AM

PSG - Real Madrid is a matchup that everything can happen in. Of course, most people are waiting for PSG to move Real Madrid out of their way and even win the title at the end. But as of this stage of the Champions League we should get ready for surprising results also. For example, Bayern Munich were one of the biggest favourites of last season but they were eliminated by PSG.

this is the fight i look forward to in this round.
anything can happen but I will give my bet to Real Madrid now.
There's no need for a long reason because I am a fan of Madrid Cheesy

Apart from that, their performance is also more impressive than PSG in the UCL.
I hope Sergio plays in this Madrid game against PSG because I haven't seen him play in a long time, besides that it would be quite epic if he played at PSG against madrid

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Quote from: cryptofrka on December 14, 2021, 09:09:41 AM

Especially under Ancelotti who has huge experience and who's made this Real team into a cohesive unit once again.

Don't forget that Madrid has started the season as of 2014-15 which was under Ancelotti as well. With a huge performance at the beginning of the season, they started almost winning nothing & a 3-2 loss against Juventus on UCL. I wouldn't surprised if I have to see the same this time as well. Have you noticed how many players are playing full-time? Vini isn't getting any rest. I'm sure there will be a time this season Madrid won't get enough combined teammates to play a match. Most players will have injuries and will barely be able to recover. The same happened in that season as well. There's not enough rotating which is badly needed for performing in a big match.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 14, 2021, 05:32:38 AM

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Inter Milan is not a weak team. My guess is that Inter Milan will be able to draw their home match and they will lose the away match. Liverpool is a strong team. They are playing for the title. But the important thing is that Liverpool's players are in good form now. In this situation, winning against Liverpool is challenging for any team.

I agree with your claim. Liverpool barely defeated Milan in the same place by 2-1. And if we look at the previous weeks, we can see that Inter have been performing at a higher level than Milan. In this critical round of the CL, I don't expect Inter to lose in the first game of the draw. I expect a score like 1-1 or 2-2. But there might be nothing to do for Inter in Anfield like you said also.

However, the Inter Milan team cannot be considered weak. The Liverpool team must play well and be aware. At the same time, if Liverpool's star players get injured, it will be more difficult for Liverpool to beat Inter Milan. Liverpool have a good chance of winning, but they must play well to win. Liverpool will lose points if they make a mistake on the field.

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Quote from: poldanmig on December 14, 2021, 11:38:31 AM

Yes, I think that Ramos will not waste this opportunity, it will be very interesting to see what kind of response Ramos will receive when he returns to the Bernabeu stadium as an madrid opponent.

He does not like the way he got out of Bernabeu because Perez rejected to give him a long contract. I think Ramos now is not in his best and only came back with real matches after many months struggling with injuries and recovery process. I doubt that he can perform well if he has a position to join that match since beginning.

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In fact, Ramos is a formidable defender, but his old age and injury-prone are the reasons for Real Madrid to let him go, and of course as an ordinary human being ramos also has feelings of hurt because madrid has been wasted at the end of his career, I think ramos experience at madrid will certainly be a weapon for PSG to win the match and I'm sure if ramos is fine then surely Pochettino will play him from the start of the match.

It is what happened with Ramos last 2 years and one of most important reasons he was not signed a new contract in Real Madrid. We see how long it takes for Ramos to recover from injury. I also don't think what he shows in Ligue 1 is too impressive even PSG dominates that league and Ramos does not face with too many dangerous attacks from opponents.

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Quote from: poldanmig on December 14, 2021, 11:38:31 AM

In fact, Ramos is a formidable defender, but his old age and injury-prone are the reasons for Real Madrid to let him go, and of course as an ordinary human being ramos also has feelings of hurt because madrid has been wasted at the end of his career, I think ramos experience at madrid will certainly be a weapon for PSG to win the match and I'm sure if ramos is fine then surely Pochettino will play him from the start of the match.

That's right, Ramos not only has experience playing at Madrid, but, he also have experience coached by Ancelotti and may be this make him knows the weaknesses of Real Madrid. A coach will not have a strategy that changes 180 degrees, I think Ramos knows to lead other players to deal with the rhythm and strategy from Ancelotti. So, Madrid players must have the initiative beyond Ancelotti's mind when they are struggling to score goals. Kroos, Benzema, Modric or other midfielders and forwards must be able to become a destroyer for PSG defense.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 13, 2021, 04:48:30 PM

chelsea had great luck, they will play against a team that does not pose any danger to chelsea at least i think that way

Destiny, Only those clubs (Lille and Chelsea) do not change on 2nd drawing.

Chelsea do not be careless, we know they have strong on paper and always got the win vs Lille in the last meet. Maybe because without a target, Lille will play leisurely without a burden, this is different from Chelsea, they are the defending champions who have to win. maybe there will be a surprise if the defending champion is eliminated on the 2nd stage.

Between Lille and Chelsea,I think the English side has the upper hand. They are in form at the moment and doing well in the league. Lille isn't bad but Chelsea has a way of coming out smoking against a French side. Is suppose to be a tough encounter but Chelsea is favourite IMO.

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