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Quote from: DIA7 on September 14, 2021, 05:13:04 PM

Lord Lingard came down in the 71st minute to score and restore United to the lead.
He did not disappoint Solskjaer and made the winning goal for his opponent in the last minute in a wonderful way 🤷🏻 regardless of the goal shot and this substitution, but with your honor worse than Solskjaer and his substitutions?
Taking out a midfielder and play Varane with a back 5 while also a man down.
How he supposed to get a win by doing that, losing against the weakest team in the groupe is not acceptable.

This guy is tactically clueless. He has the best players and doesn't know how to use them. Give this squad to Conte and he wins you the league and champions league double. Remember the wolves game. What was he watching? What was he doing? We should have lost because he was clueless playing Pogba and Fred in the defensive midfield. Someone get an anti bullying campaign for Fred started because he was absolutely violated by Adama Traore. My old man can track back faster than Pogba in defense. There was nothing there. I'm almost reaching the point of saying Ole out but the guy needs to just think straight for once. Good thing he isn't doing badly in the league. Personally Lingard should have stayed at West Ham united. He is just so unlucky with the misfortunes of man united.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 15, 2021, 04:32:38 AM

Main game today is Inter - Real. I have no particular reason, but I will back Inter. As we saw last year in apmost same group, every game matters, especially at home.
Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.
Nice odds for Shakhtar win - 1.90. But Sheriff already showed in qualifiers that they're good.
Maybe odds isn't something special, but I go with Atletico and Borussia wins.
Leipzig are doing poor in Bundesliga, so I'm confident about City win.
Sporting - Ajax looks difficult to predict.

Inter - Real Madrid can be the main game today indeed. Both of them are one of the best teams in their leagues. Inter are the last champions in the Serie A. And Real Madrid were nearly the champions in the La Liga also but Atletico Madrid made it. Now, I see that both of these teams had a good start in their leagues. And they are fully focused on the CL game now. I think that Inter will make use of playing home and they can win this game by one goal. But I'm pretty sure that each team will score at least one goal.

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Main game today is Inter - Real. I have no particular reason, but I will back Inter. As we saw last year in apmost same group, every game matters, especially at home.
Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.
Nice odds for Shakhtar win - 1.90. But Sheriff already showed in qualifiers that they're good.
Maybe odds isn't something special, but I go with Atletico and Borussia wins.
Leipzig are doing poor in Bundesliga, so I'm confident about City win.
Sporting - Ajax looks difficult to predict.

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Paris Saint Germain will be missing quite a number of players in their team due to injuries when they play against Club Brugge KV. But since Club Brugge KV is the weakest team in Group A, I think the manager of Paris Saint Germain would surely want to earn all 3 points from the hands of Club Brugge KV despite missing a number of key players for this match. I guess this might be a close match but Paris Saint Germain will still be able to beat Club Brugge KV by 1 goal today.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 15, 2021, 03:28:15 AM

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

If Solskjaer was too much confused with the red card of Bissaka and couldn't find a way to secure his team or even control the game, then what will happen if this incident happens with a better team than Young Boys? He will park the bus? I can't accuse him of replacing CR7 with Lingard since nobody can know what will happen. Lingard makes a mistake as all the players can possibly do. Shit happens, period. Coaching though is another thing...

I think Ole needs to learn and get better in setting the team up in cases like this. Respect to Young Boys but at the same time. Man united team is good enough to play good football after a red card against that team. Honestly, we have seen Chelsea and other teams hold up a draw or even manage to win with 10-men. This is what makes a big team a big team. The squad to win trophies is now there, the problem remains with the coach. With ole at the wheel, Man united will never win any trophy. This kind of tactics can never take them any where. It's time Manchester united changes where the problem is before it is too late, otherwise they will finish the season trophy less again. It has happened once before with Tottenham, they couldn't even get a shot after the red card with that quality team.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 15, 2021, 03:28:15 AM

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

when the score was still 1-1, actually manchester united still had a great opportunity to get at least 1 point, but i don't know what was on Solskjaer's mind so he replaced ronaldo who was playing quite well at that time, finally, instead of strengthening the attack because he needed goals , Manchester United actually conceded due to a back-pass error made by Lingard, I think there were two big mistakes made by Solskjaer in that match, namely replacing Bruno with Matic and Ronaldo being replaced by Lingard.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 15, 2021, 03:28:15 AM

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

You seem to know the game and what your saying @rahmad2nd but, not a very good English speaker if you ask me and its no fault of yours. Probably becuase you ain't from an English speaking nation and as such uses a Google translator. Perhaps you've got to try a lot more as, it doesn't make for an easy read and your method of articulation and sentence composure isn't coming together.

Anyway, taking Ronaldo off the pitch might have seem the best decision for some persons but, who he was exchanged with is what I'm sure wasn't the best of decisions. Wan-Bissaka is a good defender indeed and quite valuable on the pitch but, I won't accept his red card as a reason for there lose yesterday. I hear some Manchester United fans say that and I'm not impressed at all. For one, they were the winning side with CR7's 13 minutes early goal before the red card and they were able to hold on all through the first half. This might be the UCL but, Chelsea was able to hold Liverpool down given the same position and circumstances in the EPL. So, the red card is not an excuse.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 15, 2021, 03:15:15 AM

Chelsea won against Zenit 1-0 but the score was not very satisfying for me. By the way, Lukaku is maintaining a really great performance now. He scored in this one also after scoring 2 goals against Aston Villa in the Premier League. Chelsea would have won this with a bigger gap normally but I guess that Zenit resisted them well. In the end, a win is a win of course.

I also thought that Chelsea could win with a big score, I figured that Chelsea could score 2 or 3 goals. But the most important thing is that they won the match, and with what result it is no longer so important. I watched the match Dynamo - Benfica, the match is good and both teams had chances to score a goal, but perhaps a draw is the logical result of the match. Although Dynamo managed to score a goal in extra time, it was canceled through VAR. I don’t know how fair it is, but since it was canceled, it means there was an offside position.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 15, 2021, 03:28:15 AM

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

If Solskjaer was too much confused with the red card of Bissaka and couldn't find a way to secure his team or even control the game, then what will happen if this incident happens with a better team than Young Boys? He will park the bus? I can't accuse him of replacing CR7 with Lingard since nobody can know what will happen. Lingard makes a mistake as all the players can possibly do. Shit happens, period. Coaching though is another thing...

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on September 15, 2021, 01:40:59 AM

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 14, 2021, 02:35:17 PM

Pretty sure there are many bettors lost in this match including me lol.
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Unexpectedly, I was actually quite optimistic that Manchester United would win when Ronaldo scored the first goal. But since they played with 10 men they were very different, they became weaker and defended. Actually the draw was quite good, but in the last minute Lingard made a mistake. His pass was too close to Siebatcheu. I think there was a slight mistake in the substitutions made by Solkjaer, although he looked like he wanted to win with Lingard, but all of them failed. A bad result for United because they are the top team.

Ole Solskjaer's decision to replace Ronaldo with Jesse Lingard proved to be very costly after Lingard gave the ball away which made Young Boys to score the winner against Man united side who had Aaron Wan Bissaka sent off for a reckless tackle earlier in the first half. Personally, it was a wrong substitution, because Man united needed a winner and taking off Bruno Fernandes and Christiano Ronaldo for Nemanja Matic and Jesse Lingard was not necessary at all. I guess he wanted to defend and attack with them by playing Lingard as a false 9. But it went all wrong. Ole has got all the players needed to prove something tangible, but he still lacks the right tactics to use them.

Ole Solskjaer faced problem when Aaron Wan-Bissaka got red card at the first half and he was change many strategy and make Jadon Sacho have out early, but change Cristiano Ronaldo with Jesse Linggard big mistake made by Ole Solskjaer and he mad bad passing to Young Boy team and make them loss on first match UEFA champion league, but have left 5 match later and should win all match if want Manchester United pass to knock out and not got the same cases with last UEFA champion league season where Manchester United failed to knock out.

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Barcelona were just terrible against Bayern Munich here. There is really not much to talk about their performance. They got 5 shots and 0 on target. It must be very disappointing for their supporters. Barcelona are still on the recovery stage after sending Messi and Griezmann both. It was inevitable to get a big loss here for them. Bayern Munich were very confident and they won 3-0. Lewandowski is continuing to show a great performance that he scored 2 more goals here.

Well, I think even though it is a big loss for Barcelona at home, but for me this result is not at all surprising. Previously I have said that their current squad is very different and not surprisingly, their chemistry is also different which makes Bayern certainly have a more solid squad with a great coach even though this is his first season coaching Bayern but that is no longer a problem because Bayern have a squad well formed.

Yeag the truth is that the current Barcelona has a very average team, the differences were very clear, as if Bayern were playing with children, they reduced the pace throughout the match and respected the date of the opponent tonight, you can blame Ronald Koeman but he is not alone, naturally there are clear deficiencies in the style of play and the approach that the team followed in the match, for example, how do you defend with five defenders in the back against Bayern and the focus of your team is Serge Busquets 2021, you can't hold out much here, you don't have N'Golo Kante, the problems are deeper than all of this and the fans of this club must think more realistically, they will need great and mighty work to reach For the giant teams,
Barcelona is in dire straits, perhaps the only good thing in tonight's meeting is the emergence of some young names, this is very important but it is not enough at all, they need deals, they made a disastrous summer transfer window that does not serve the current situation of the team in any way.

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Chelsea won against Zenit 1-0 but the score was not very satisfying for me. By the way, Lukaku is maintaining a really great performance now. He scored in this one also after scoring 2 goals against Aston Villa in the Premier League. Chelsea would have won this with a bigger gap normally but I guess that Zenit resisted them well. In the end, a win is a win of course.

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I honestly don't know what to say about last night. Whole day today I was thinking how did we lose by such a big margin and honestly Bayern were not that brilliant. We just still can't even defend against aging attackers. And we looked so bare out of ideas everywhere. I suppose we should just even just be satisfied with Europa if this is how we play.

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Perhaps the most interesting match today is inter - real. I don't even know who is stronger at the moment both teams are much weaker than last season.
Hakimi and Lukaku inter would be very useful now but they are no longer in the club.
Benzema is still very good and therefore i think that the winner will actually come out in this match.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 15, 2021, 02:26:07 AM

Barcelona were just terrible against Bayern Munich here. There is really not much to talk about their performance. They got 5 shots and 0 on target. It must be very disappointing for their supporters. Barcelona are still on the recovery stage after sending Messi and Griezmann both. It was inevitable to get a big loss here for them. Bayern Munich were very confident and they won 3-0. Lewandowski is continuing to show a great performance that he scored 2 more goals here.

Well, I think even though it is a big loss for Barcelona at home, but for me this result is not at all surprising. Previously I have said that their current squad is very different and not surprisingly, their chemistry is also different which makes Bayern certainly have a more solid squad with a great coach even though this is his first season coaching Bayern but that is no longer a problem because Bayern have a squad well formed.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on September 15, 2021, 01:21:12 AM

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Even ignoring the result - Barcelona was so bad yesterday. Without any idea while in possession, in total disarray when defending. In a space of a few months they fell from Messi to Luuk de Jong leading the attack, things like these should not be happening to top clubs.

I watched the whole match yesterday and to be honest i am still not sure if bayern was so strong or if Barcelona was so bad. It was probably a mix of both.
How could this happen to Barcelona? It's pretty simple, they have 1.3 billion € of debts which is an insane number and the main reason for that is the crazy salary that they paid for Messi. 550 Million € for 4 years is just not justified for a single player, no matter how good he is. Now they have to play with 17 year old kids against a club like bayern munich.

In addition one of the greatest mistake of Barcelona was that they built the team around Messi, thus the aftermath and consequences of his sudden departure would surely tell on the team tactically, the team will struggle until the whole squad is rebuilt, I never expected Barcelona to pose a serious threat to Bayern yesterday, the visitors has experienced players like Lewandoski, Muller, Sane, Neuer, Kimmich and Pavard compared to Barcelona parading an inexperienced 17 years old youngster in a UCL match, they should try and qualify from the group.

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Barcelona were just terrible against Bayern Munich here. There is really not much to talk about their performance. They got 5 shots and 0 on target. It must be very disappointing for their supporters. Barcelona are still on the recovery stage after sending Messi and Griezmann both. It was inevitable to get a big loss here for them. Bayern Munich were very confident and they won 3-0. Lewandowski is continuing to show a great performance that he scored 2 more goals here.

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 14, 2021, 03:40:26 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on September 14, 2021, 02:35:17 PM

Pretty sure there are many bettors lost in this match including me lol.
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Unexpectedly, I was actually quite optimistic that Manchester United would win when Ronaldo scored the first goal. But since they played with 10 men they were very different, they became weaker and defended. Actually the draw was quite good, but in the last minute Lingard made a mistake. His pass was too close to Siebatcheu. I think there was a slight mistake in the substitutions made by Solkjaer, although he looked like he wanted to win with Lingard, but all of them failed. A bad result for United because they are the top team.

Ole Solskjaer's decision to replace Ronaldo with Jesse Lingard proved to be very costly after Lingard gave the ball away which made Young Boys to score the winner against Man united side who had Aaron Wan Bissaka sent off for a reckless tackle earlier in the first half. Personally, it was a wrong substitution, because Man united needed a winner and taking off Bruno Fernandes and Christiano Ronaldo for Nemanja Matic and Jesse Lingard was not necessary at all. I guess he wanted to defend and attack with them by playing Lingard as a false 9. But it went all wrong. Ole has got all the players needed to prove something tangible, but he still lacks the right tactics to use them.

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I assume Barca is so bad. While Bayern can take the advantage of Barca's situation. Especially for Lewa and Muller, they know very well how to deal with Barcelona defenders. They have done it very well, both in the matches of previous UCL and in the current match.

I never expected Barcelona to lost the match with 0 shot on target. Bayern munich got a comfortable winning in the match, while Barcelona was not able to score a single goal, they got beaten in the both halves of the match. Although, Bayern Munich is a great team, but Barcelona is also not a weak team, they disappointed me. Their next Champion League match will be against Benifica, which also won't be easy for them to win, because it an away match and Benifica don't seems to be a weak team. They have to work on their squad, to avoid losing important matches.

For a team at Barcelona's level, it should be able to match Bayern Munich. Barcelona has lost Messi, and indeed it became a deficiency but they shouldn't lose by 3 goals without a reply. They play at home, so crowds, and territoriality should be an advantage for Barcelona but Barcelona failed to take advantage of that. If they keep playing like this it will be a bad season for Barcelona.

Bayern Munich deserved to win, their defense played well and successfully block the movement of Barcelona players, it's as if Barcelona is facing a very solid wall.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 15, 2021, 01:10:32 AM

Even ignoring the result - Barcelona was so bad yesterday. Without any idea while in possession, in total disarray when defending. In a space of a few months they fell from Messi to Luuk de Jong leading the attack, things like these should not be happening to top clubs.

I watched the whole match yesterday and to be honest i am still not sure if bayern was so strong or if Barcelona was so bad. It was probably a mix of both.
How could this happen to Barcelona? It's pretty simple, they have 1.3 billion € of debts which is an insane number and the main reason for that is the crazy salary that they paid for Messi. 550 Million € for 4 years is just not justified for a single player, no matter how good he is. Now they have to play with 17 year old kids against a club like bayern munich.

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