UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 660.

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Quote from: 3meek on September 15, 2021, 08:47:37 AM

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What do you think of the Inter v Real match? Inter seem to be in good form at the moment and have been playing well in recent games, scoring a lot of goals! But their opponents haven't been that strong either!
I think Real will win today... Wink

Actually I still doubt for Inter Milan's victory after losing Lukaku to Chelsea will remain in the article I saw and Inzhagi said he will remain optimistic to win and will try his best against Real Madrid at home to the Nerazzuri but on the other hand I still doubt on Inter Milan to win and while it is true that Real Madrid still have a great squad he is even better at playing in the UCL.

But I think both of them will try the same, of course this season there will be a little difference after the squad reshuffle, so I want to know how Inzhagi's strategy is at UCL.

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It is barcelona first season in UEFA champions league without Messi since he debuted for them in the UEFA champions league, and how embarrassing is it for them to lose to their arch rivals in europe Bayern Munich, but 3:0, Barcelona don't have players like lewandosky, kimich, gnabry and so on, but at least they should play like the barcelona of old, if not in quality players but a controlled passing football, I must agree with Barcelona fans that koeman needs to be sacked.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 15, 2021, 07:09:30 AM

I think that Barcelona have near zero chance to win the Champions League title. They don't have the worst starting eleven of course but their game plan is really weak. The players are struggling a lot against serious opponents like Bayern Munich. But Koeman still believes that the club can achieve titles with him. Grin

It's still early to conclude that Barcelona has little chance in winning the champions league, it's their first loss and I'm very sure they saw that coming after their demi god Messi who have always been their shield against opponents left the club.
The directors has held a meeting after the first loss, I hope they don't make a substitute to Ronald Koeman, it will be a tearing time for Barcelona, It's too early to point out big moves through.
Messi right now will be watching and smiling in 3D Grin

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I didn't expect Young Boys to beat Man U! Man U will probably score a lot of goals in the return leg to show what they can do!

What do you think of the Inter v Real match? Inter seem to be in good form at the moment and have been playing well in recent games, scoring a lot of goals! But their opponents haven't been that strong either!
I think Real will win today... Wink

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on September 15, 2021, 05:13:45 AM

I think Ole needs to learn and get better in setting the team up in cases like this. Respect to Young Boys but at the same time. Man united team is good enough to play good football after a red card against that team. Honestly, we have seen Chelsea and other teams hold up a draw or even manage to win with 10-men. This is what makes a big team a big team.

Exactly! This Man Utd team seems (and it is) the best team of the last few years and is disappointing to see them struggling with a lower-level team even if they play with one man less. Since I like chances to been given to new people, I'm sorry to say it but Ole has a lot to learn but not in Man Utd wheel. When everything goes normal, all good. When the game goes wrong, then you need to have a plan and know what to do. In his first difficulty on a game, Solskjaer couldn't handle it and act like a noob.
Anyway, what's done is done. Let's see how they will react in the next games of the tournament.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 15, 2021, 07:44:50 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 14, 2021, 07:17:06 AM

1,43 is not a bad odds for such a simple match.

well i was right about low odds like that, long term is a big loss

If you say that these low odds is the loss in the long term, what do you really think that the higher odds would be good?

Quote from: Slow death on September 15, 2021, 07:44:50 AM

Manchester united 1 - 2 young boys
the odds were @1.43 for Manchester united to win, but they lose. this type of odd has no long-term value and that's why I don't bet games with odds below @1.65 because I don't see long-term advantage of this type of odds below

From the point of view of mathematics, the bookmaker beats you over the long run whatever odds you choose. I see no reason to focus on this.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 14, 2021, 07:17:06 AM

If you bet $100 and win, then when you find a second match of the same kind, you can bet $ 143 and get (if successful) $ 204. It turns out a doubling of the deposit in just two matches

after a person has $204 it is enough to lose twice to lose everything, in the long run it is not feasible to place bets with an odd of less than @1.60

And what difference do you see if you bet with odds higher than 1.6? With high odds, a series of losses occurs much more often and wipes out your deposit just as quickly.

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We have a nice match between Manchester City and Leipzig in Etihad today. Manchester City are being favoured really highly. Leipzig are out-of-morale now. Because they were destroyed by Bayern Munich 4-1. After seeing this result, Manchester City should be able to destroy them also. They have a great system and discipline. I expect Manchester City to score at least 3 goals and get a comfortable win.

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Quote from: Ratash on September 15, 2021, 07:47:46 AM

After the red card man united performance dropped and it surprized me especially in the second half and even with ten players they shouldve performed better especially against a team like young boys if it were a strong team maybe but this shows how poor the manager is and they need a new one if they want to compete this year because they have a rich squad.

Yes, why am I a little doubtful about Solskjaer? he has a lot of quality players but he hasn't been able to use them properly. Moreover, they have the arrival of Ronaldo, if United is still bad I think the factor is the coach. Not only this time it's from last season I actually want Solskjaer to be replaced. I think he has coached for more than 3 years I think they should immediately give him an ultimatum and evaluation if United continue to be poor and no titles for this year.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 15, 2021, 07:44:50 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 14, 2021, 07:17:06 AM

1,43 is not a bad odds for such a simple match.

well i was right about low odds like that, long term is a big loss

Manchester united 1 - 2 young boys

the odds were @1.43 for Manchester united to win, but they lose. this type of odd has no long-term value and that's why I don't bet games with odds below @1.65 because I don't see long-term advantage of this type of odds below

Yup. It’s the CL, it’s away, Manchester United travelling to another country, opposing side’s rowdy supporters... The line has little to no value, it was a pass. But Ronaldo first goal scorer hits again at a decent line. Grin

I hope the books don’t over compensate and over adjust the line. But they prolly will and United is going vs West Ham, away on Sat. I’d pass the prop.

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Quote from: hahay on September 14, 2021, 10:13:27 PM

I realized Manchester United were only playing with 10 player, but United had taken the lead 1-0 and United should have made the most of their defence. If United don't change their strategy, United should still be able to make goals again, considering their opponent is a dark horse team in their group and should be, this is not a problem for the United squad. It's a surprise, even though it's only 10 players I don't think United will lose and it's a problem that Ole has to deal with immediately.

After the red card man united performance dropped and it surprized me especially in the second half and even with ten players they shouldve performed better especially against a team like young boys if it were a strong team maybe but this shows how poor the manager is and they need a new one if they want to compete this year because they have a rich squad.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 14, 2021, 07:17:06 AM

1,43 is not a bad odds for such a simple match.

well i was right about low odds like that, long term is a big loss

Manchester united 1 - 2 young boys

the odds were @1.43 for Manchester united to win, but they lose. this type of odd has no long-term value and that's why I don't bet games with odds below @1.65 because I don't see long-term advantage of this type of odds below

Quote from: KTChampions on September 14, 2021, 07:17:06 AM

If you bet $100 and win, then when you find a second match of the same kind, you can bet $ 143 and get (if successful) $ 204. It turns out a doubling of the deposit in just two matches

after a person has $204 it is enough to lose twice to lose everything, in the long run it is not feasible to place bets with an odd of less than @1.60

Quote from: KTChampions on September 14, 2021, 07:17:06 AM

As for Real, they have big problems in defense judging by the number of goals they concede, so in the match with Inter they may be defeated.

real madrid has the advantage in clashes against inter, even when real madrid is not doing well and inter was much better last season and yet real took the advantage by beating inter in the league of champions. And this time the inter has no lukaku, they suffer when they play against small teams, in my opinion they can draw

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Quote from: Koal-84 on September 15, 2021, 06:58:58 AM

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There is nothing surprising about the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match yesterday. Barcelona is quite weak in many areas of the field both in defense and attack. Barcelona's defeat yesterday was very natural because the composition of the existing players was not able to compete with the Bayern Munich players who looked more complete. It's Barcelona's first match without Messi in the Champions League I think, and it's their first defeat of the season in the Champions League group stage which is a sign that Barcelona are no longer a strong team in Europe.

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Barcelona - Bayern Munich match was the match of the day I think. But I was disappointed to see Barcelona not being able to do anything against Bayern Munich here. Bayern Munich were so comfortable against them that they didn't even have a difficulty in winning this match. It was a clear victory by 3-0. It was nice to see Lewandowski continuing to score. He got 2 goals here too.

it's very amazing how RL proves his world class form every time and scores at least once in every game. especially since he's not the youngest anymore and is also spared from all the injuries - he can definitely make the difference in the games when it comes to big titles

and fc barcelona will not win an international title again so soon - PG and LM were the personalities who gave this club so much... Tongue

I think that Barcelona have near zero chance to win the Champions League title. They don't have the worst starting eleven of course but their game plan is really weak. The players are struggling a lot against serious opponents like Bayern Munich. But Koeman still believes that the club can achieve titles with him. Grin

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 15, 2021, 05:32:38 AM

Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.

Yes, Milan is not a stable team, Liverpool also plays at home, possible they will be got great winner, maybe with 2 different goals. But what makes the interesting match is, milan hasn't played in a long time In the champions league. this can be a motivation for them to win the game, they want to show Milan is still alive and have a soul as a legend team. I hope Milan make revenge on "Istanbul", that moment Milan is superior creates 3 goals, but the situation has changed after Liverpool create 3 goals in only under 10 minutes, Then there was a penalty shootout, which makes Liverpool be champions. Maybe, when lucky, Tomorrow, Milan can make it draw.

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In yesterday's games, there was only one big surprise for me, that Manchester United lost in Bern, so the red card should not be an excuse.

In general, there have been many red cards yesterday evening, also very curious are the 4 given penalties in Seville against Salzburg, and there were also only 2 utilized. Group G is already very balanced after the first matchday, even if Sevilla is the big favorite. I would not have expected that Bayern wins so clearly in Barcelona.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 15, 2021, 05:32:38 AM

Main game today is Inter - Real. I have no particular reason, but I will back Inter. As we saw last year in apmost same group, every game matters, especially at home.
Liverpool - Milan sounds nice, but it's not 2004. LFC should win.
Nice odds for Shakhtar win - 1.90. But Sheriff already showed in qualifiers that they're good.
Maybe odds isn't something special, but I go with Atletico and Borussia wins.
Leipzig are doing poor in Bundesliga, so I'm confident about City win.
Sporting - Ajax looks difficult to predict.

I want to say welcome back AC Milan to UEFA Champion league party after miss more than seven years without participants on champion league, but hey have faced big problem with group stage because they have been in group B with Liverpool, Atletico Madrid and FC Porto. I am the kopp fans sure only Atletico Madrid and Liverpool will be to knock out group, lets pray for AC Milan fans begin tonight how many score make by Salah and Mane to defeat AC Milan, how ever Milan go to Anfield without Ibrahimovic after get injury again when faced with Lazio on Serie A last weekend.

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Quote from: hahay on September 14, 2021, 10:13:27 PM

I realized Manchester United were only playing with 10 player, but United had taken the lead 1-0 and United should have made the most of their defence. If United don't change their strategy, United should still be able to make goals again, considering their opponent is a dark horse team in their group and should be, this is not a problem for the United squad. It's a surprise, even though it's only 10 players I don't think United will lose and it's a problem that Ole has to deal with immediately.

I think Ole forgets that football is a simple game, keep the ball and the opposition can't score. No matter who you play against at any level of the game if you invite pressure for that amount of time you are more than likely to concede. Man united could have easily kept 4 at the back and had the extra man in midfield and comfortably had more control over the game. I think Ole's disastrous tactical change had more effect on the game than going down to 10 men. Even with ten men United should have had the capability to win that game. Allowing the team to be overrun in midfield & relying on the defense to keep Young Boys out till the end of the game was a mistake. He should also have kept Sancho on & brought Greenwood on at some point to give United an outlet. This isn’t the first time that Solskjaer has got his tactics wrong, unfortunately he’s been exposed again as tactically naïve.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on September 15, 2021, 06:03:54 AM

The problem with Manchester United fans is that when Manchester United win they start praising Ole Solskjaer and when the game goes against him, they start the Ole out campaign. Crazy fans everywhere Man United beat Newcastle last weekend and they were all celebrating. Now got beaten by an average side. And they want Ole gone.

Fans are emotional because they not only watch matches but also make bets so they are angry when they lost. However, I do understand why they turn their emotion and support for Ole too quickly. Ole himself has issues because he does not give them belief that he is a good coach. If they have belief in Ole, they will support him and skip short bad results.

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The truth is that we never won any match because of the coach but rather because we have some good players, good players alone can't win crucial games, a good coach is always required that's why we will never win anything as long as Ole is still coaching Manchester United. Ole Preferred to strengthen the defense, rather than the attack in yesterday’s game, that’s what killed it.

A team are consisted of players and coach, so if a team don't need to have a coach to win matches, clubs should only hire players and let them playing whatever tactic they want and self-pick players for squad in each match.

It is my joke but that presents the importance of a coach.

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Quote from: onecall123 on September 15, 2021, 12:09:42 AM

When you're unfortunate, there's nothing you can do. Football is a game like that. Everything can be ruined by one mistake. A 94th minute goal by Young Boys puts Manchester United down 2-1. Somewhere along the line, I have a fear about Manchester United's defense. Nevertheless, playing with one men down is no excuse. Ole is the main problem for that team. Since CR7 returned to Manchester United, their fans think most games are going their way.

The problem with Manchester United fans is that when Manchester United win they start praising Ole Solskjaer and when the game goes against him, they start the Ole out campaign. Crazy fans everywhere Man United beat Newcastle last weekend and they were all celebrating. Now got beaten by an average side. And they want Ole gone. The truth is that we never won any match because of the coach but rather because we have some good players, good players alone can't win crucial games, a good coach is always required that's why we will never win anything as long as Ole is still coaching Manchester United. Ole Preferred to strengthen the defense, rather than the attack in yesterday’s game, that’s what killed it.

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Barcelona has lost its glory, who do they have in the team that can pose a threat to Bayern Munich. When Messi was still a players, they had the messi card to pull as he can individually create chances for other players to score or come up with some magic himself to create the chance and then score but now they are just the underdog especially in last night game.

I watches the game and Bayern were not critical enough if not they should be scoring more goals than they did. Barcelona should just be lucky that they escape with only three goals deposit.

I'll tell you that Messi in this game could not change anything. yesterday I wrote that Bayern will win a landslide victory and the coefficient of 1.95 for this match is excellent. In fact, this is a gift, when for a team like Bayern, two games in a row, bookmakers give a coefficient of about 2. Barcelona in their group will most likely be able to beat Dynamo, but I'm not sure if they can beat Benfica. Therefore, I suppose that Barcelona and Benfica can fight for the exit from the group, from the second place. Bayern will make it into the playoffs from first place without any problems.

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