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Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 25, 2022, 04:47:55 PM

Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

It is all about tactics. These are the same psychological games to take away the morale from the opponent before the game and to create insecurity. I wouldn't worry too much about that. What is important is which players can play. A lot can still happen until shortly before the start. That is why I do not make any predictions yet.

If we talking about tactic and luck then leave that to real Madrid but on the other way around Liverpool is more tactical than real Madrid so I believe Liverpoolay not done it easy but their will win the champion cup.

I think Liverpool are quite confident because they can perform with their best squad in this final. Things were different in the 2018 final, when Liverpool were forced to withdraw key player Mohamed Salah, who was injured early in the match. Then the 2020/2021 UCL quarter-finals when Liverpool lost Virgil van Dijk and a defender crisis against Madrid.
Liverpool have developed players over the years. That's why Liverpool are quite compact [because a lot of players] are still defending, and some of them will play a third Champions League final. I think the final match will be really extraordinary, the match will definitely be tight.

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Neither Liverpool nor Real Madrid have an equal chance of winning the Champions League trophy this year, because both have good players who support to win the Champions League trophy. What is decisive is how the playing strategy will be shown by the two teams, we will see the strategies of Real Madrid or Liverpool that have proven effective. Because both teams have great and experienced coaches, so I'm really looking forward to how the playing strategy will be used by the two coaches. I predict the two teams will not change their playing strategy much, especially Real Madrid will rely on Benzema to win the game. So if Liverpool defenders can limit Benzema's movement, I believe Real Madrid will have a hard time scoring goals. Due to Real Madrid's weakness so far they have relied too much on Benzema. So if Benzema doesn't play or plays badly, usually Real Madrid struggles to win.

Real madrid has a squad that is quite strong this season in attack. Vinicius and Rodrygo are Benzema partners on the front lines who are very hungry for goals and are able to trouble the opponent's back row. I don't think Real Madrid will only rely on Benzema this season because Vinicius and Rodrygo have been very important points for Real Madrid this season. So I don't think the Liverpool defender will stop Benzema's movement, but he must be able to kill both sides of Vinicius and Rodrygo.

What happens to some of us is that we watch football but we don't understand what is actually happening in football. There is no doubt, Benzema is the hit man of Real Madrid and the squad is built around him, he delivers when needed and he scores brilliant goals as if he is younger than 30. But we need to understand that it will be more damaging to Real Madrid if Benzema should be present but Vinicius absent. It is Vinicius who makes the runs through defenders, he disorganises the opposition team to give Benzema good opportunities to score. What is said about Vinicius can also be said about Rodrygo. The most interesting thing is that we are going to witness a good finals on Saturday, but any slight mistake from any side may lead to their end.

The fact remains that Real Madrid with Benzema and Real Madrid without Benzema are completely different teams and when Benzema is absent from the football field for some reason, the game and, accordingly, the team's results are not so convincing. There are two ways to talk about Benzema's role in the team. On the one hand, we can say that Benzema gets freedom in attacking actions thanks to the actions of other attacking players like Vinicius Junior. On the other hand, we can also say that the same attacking players get new opportunities due to the fact that the attention of the other team's defense is distracted by Benzema. But speaking specifically, in both cases, success rests on the very presence of Benzema, so it will be a strong blow to the game and the chances of Real Madrid if the player is out of order or does not participate in the match at all.

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Real madrid has a squad that is quite strong this season in attack. Vinicius and Rodrygo are Benzema partners on the front lines who are very hungry for goals and are able to trouble the opponent's back row.

Yes exactly, the three are the best combination and great squad in Real Madrid. Real Madrid's performance will be highly optimal if the three can play together in a time, moreover for the final of UCL, they will give a huge attack. Benzema may be the spearhead of Real Madrid, but it doesn't mean that Real Madrid put everything on Benzema and depend only on him. There must be a united to be able to win, with the consistency of all players, both attacking lines, midfielders, and also defenders. And I think that all clubs also must have this

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Quote from: Yogee on May 25, 2022, 06:06:15 PM

Neither Liverpool nor Real Madrid have an equal chance of winning the Champions League trophy this year, because both have good players
who support to win the Champions League trophy. What is decisive is how the playing strategy will be shown by the two teams,
we will see the strategies of Real Madrid or Liverpool that have proven effective. Because both teams have great and experienced coaches,
so I'm really looking forward to how the playing strategy will be used by the two coaches. I predict the two teams will not change their playing
strategy much, especially Real Madrid will rely on Benzema to win the game. So if Liverpool defenders can limit Benzema's movement, I believe
Real Madrid will have a hard time scoring goals. Due to Real Madrid's weakness so far they have relied too much on Benzema. So if Benzema
doesn't play or plays badly, usually Real Madrid struggles to win.

Real madrid has a squad that is quite strong this season in attack. Vinicius and Rodrygo are Benzema partners on the front lines who are very hungry for goals and are able to trouble the opponent's back row. I don't think Real Madrid will only rely on Benzema this season because Vinicius and Rodrygo have been very important points for Real Madrid this season. So I don't think the Liverpool defender will stop Benzema's movement, but he must be able to kill both sides of Vinicius and Rodrygo.

I admit that Vinicius and Rodrygo's role is also quite big for Real Madrid, because after all Benzema needs the support of other players to be able
to score goals. And often Vinicius opened up space for Benzema to score goals, several times Vinicius even provided assists for Benzema's goals.
But based on the data that I have, several Real Madrid matches without Benzema's presence, it looks like Real Madrid is having a hard time scoring goals,
even Real Madrid often fail to win when Benzema is not playing. That's why I say Benzema is very important for Real Madrid. Actually not only scoring
goals, Benzema is often seen providing motivation on the field. So I think if Liverpool defenders don't stop Benzema's movement, they will suffer
the same fate as PSG, Chelsea and Man City.

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Why are we even arguing which team is tactical or not? It's pretty obvious that both managers have strategies laid out before the match and it all comes down to the player execution on the pitch. Both managers are also good at adjustments during the game. Which strategy will come out victorious is anybody's guess.

Till Ancelotti will let the players play like they did in the last minutes of every game, things will be fine for them. He made several mistakes in the first legs in CL and he admitted it. His strategy will be the key to grab the title Wink

Few days before match and the odds of Liverpool are still good comparing to Real Madrid 2.1/3.4...

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Why are we even arguing which team is tactical or not? It's pretty obvious that both managers have strategies laid out before the match and it all comes down to the player execution on the pitch. Both managers are also good at adjustments during the game. Which strategy will come out victorious is anybody's guess.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on May 25, 2022, 10:51:42 AM

Quote from: GatotKaca on May 25, 2022, 12:22:12 AM

Liverpool wants to end the season with a triple winner. and Madrid who wants a double winner.

Liverpool's position is the same as Real Madrid, Both clubs have only collected one trophy. Liverpool have won the FA CUP trophy while Real Madrid have secured the La Liga trophy. Both clubs still have a chance to get a double winner, if the triple winner cannot be achieved anymore because Liverpool cannot win the Premier League trophy and Real Madrid failed to get the CDR trophy.

It is no doubt to me that Liverpool is the favourite for this tittle.I am very optimistic about Liverpool winning the champions league again,because they are capable of winning that trophy.Jorghen Klopp have proven so far to be one of the best managers in the world,if not unarguably the best.He came to Liverpool,and transform Liverpool from a mere game playing club to one of the best team in the world.
With his tactics and formation,winning Madrid will not be a problem.

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Quote from: RILWAN on May 25, 2022, 04:18:17 PM

Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

It is all about tactics. These are the same psychological games to take away the morale from the opponent before the game and to create insecurity. I wouldn't worry too much about that. What is important is which players can play. A lot can still happen until shortly before the start. That is why I do not make any predictions yet.

If we talking about tactic and luck then leave that to real Madrid but on the other way around Liverpool is more tactical than real Madrid so I believe Liverpoolay not done it easy but their will win the champion cup.

I argue with this, because at least Real has tactics, unlike Liverpool, Real is obviously stronger in many moments. But not in all, for this reason it is difficult to say who will win the match with more probability. Real Madrid is more aggressive team, this is their style of play, Liverpool plays fast soccer, the match will be difficult, at least for these reasons. So I wouldn't say in advance who would win.

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It is such a great thing and a shame at the same time that it will be on a saturday night. I know that there will be a ton of football fans who will love that it is on saturday so that they would be watching it on a day where they do not care about the next day and work. Thats a good thing, but for people like me, saturday night is the only night I could ever go out, rest of the week is impossible for me to do anything, its just go to work, come home, watch tv and sleep. So I will prefer to go outside that day but it will be a tough situation to be in and I will be upset about it as well, maybe I will change my mind, I do not know.

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Football is a game of luck and even the upcoming game will have to be a lucky avenue for both clubs to showcase their tactical skills and Liverpool will have to okay much better football to be able to win the match.

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Neither Liverpool nor Real Madrid have an equal chance of winning the Champions League trophy this year, because both have good players
who support to win the Champions League trophy. What is decisive is how the playing strategy will be shown by the two teams,
we will see the strategies of Real Madrid or Liverpool that have proven effective. Because both teams have great and experienced coaches,
so I'm really looking forward to how the playing strategy will be used by the two coaches. I predict the two teams will not change their playing
strategy much, especially Real Madrid will rely on Benzema to win the game. So if Liverpool defenders can limit Benzema's movement, I believe
Real Madrid will have a hard time scoring goals. Due to Real Madrid's weakness so far they have relied too much on Benzema. So if Benzema
doesn't play or plays badly, usually Real Madrid struggles to win.

Real madrid has a squad that is quite strong this season in attack. Vinicius and Rodrygo are Benzema partners on the front lines who are very hungry for goals and are able to trouble the opponent's back row. I don't think Real Madrid will only rely on Benzema this season because Vinicius and Rodrygo have been very important points for Real Madrid this season. So I don't think the Liverpool defender will stop Benzema's movement, but he must be able to kill both sides of Vinicius and Rodrygo.

What happens to some of us is that we watch football but we don't understand what is actually happening in football. There is no doubt, Benzema is the hit man of Real Madrid and the squad is built around him, he delivers when needed and he scores brilliant goals as if he is younger than 30. But we need to understand that it will be more damaging to Real Madrid if Benzema should be present but Vinicius absent.
It is Vinicius who makes the runs through defenders, he disorganises the opposition team to give Benzema good opportunities to score.
What is said about Vinicius can also be said about Rodrygo. The most interesting thing is that we are going to witness a good finals on Saturday, but any slight mistake from any side may lead to their end.

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Quote from: BALIK on May 25, 2022, 01:24:49 PM

Neither Liverpool nor Real Madrid have an equal chance of winning the Champions League trophy this year, because both have good players
who support to win the Champions League trophy. What is decisive is how the playing strategy will be shown by the two teams,
we will see the strategies of Real Madrid or Liverpool that have proven effective. Because both teams have great and experienced coaches,
so I'm really looking forward to how the playing strategy will be used by the two coaches. I predict the two teams will not change their playing
strategy much, especially Real Madrid will rely on Benzema to win the game. So if Liverpool defenders can limit Benzema's movement, I believe
Real Madrid will have a hard time scoring goals. Due to Real Madrid's weakness so far they have relied too much on Benzema. So if Benzema
doesn't play or plays badly, usually Real Madrid struggles to win.

Real madrid has a squad that is quite strong this season in attack. Vinicius and Rodrygo are Benzema partners on the front lines who are very hungry for goals and are able to trouble the opponent's back row. I don't think Real Madrid will only rely on Benzema this season because Vinicius and Rodrygo have been very important points for Real Madrid this season. So I don't think the Liverpool defender will stop Benzema's movement, but he must be able to kill both sides of Vinicius and Rodrygo.

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If we compare the two teams, the Liverpool team will be more organized and stronger. Although Liverpool did not win the Premier League title, they continued to fight until last week. Liverpool has won almost every Champions League match. On the other hand, although not Real Madrid, they have won almost every match because of Benzema's good performance. However, the final match will definitely be competitive.

Organized is not always the thing you are looking for in a final match at all. It surely gives you that edge where you will know how to play and what strategy you are going to play and you will be ready for any situation and switch up according to whatever happens and these are all great stuff. However, Real is a crazy team, they were not waited to be doing this at all, nobody saw them at finals this year, and they still are, which is a big deal because they could do the same thing. They could do something that Liverpool doesn't expect, not the thing they should do, but something crazy instead that they shouldn't even attempt, and it may end up working.

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Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

It is all about tactics. These are the same psychological games to take away the morale from the opponent before the game and to create insecurity. I wouldn't worry too much about that. What is important is which players can play. A lot can still happen until shortly before the start. That is why I do not make any predictions yet.

If we talking about tactic and luck then leave that to real Madrid but on the other way around Liverpool is more tactical than real Madrid so I believe Liverpoolay not done it easy but their will win the champion cup.

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Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

It is all about tactics. These are the same psychological games to take away the morale from the opponent before the game and to create insecurity. I wouldn't worry too much about that. What is important is which players can play. A lot can still happen until shortly before the start. That is why I do not make any predictions yet.

Neither Liverpool nor Real Madrid have an equal chance of winning the Champions League trophy this year, because both have good players
who support to win the Champions League trophy. What is decisive is how the playing strategy will be shown by the two teams,
we will see the strategies of Real Madrid or Liverpool that have proven effective. Because both teams have great and experienced coaches,
so I'm really looking forward to how the playing strategy will be used by the two coaches. I predict the two teams will not change their playing
strategy much, especially Real Madrid will rely on Benzema to win the game. So if Liverpool defenders can limit Benzema's movement, I believe
Real Madrid will have a hard time scoring goals. Due to Real Madrid's weakness so far they have relied too much on Benzema. So if Benzema
doesn't play or plays badly, usually Real Madrid struggles to win.

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Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

It is all about tactics. These are the same psychological games to take away the morale from the opponent before the game and to create insecurity. I wouldn't worry too much about that. What is important is which players can play. A lot can still happen until shortly before the start. That is why I do not make any predictions yet.

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Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

Actually this does not need to be responded to by Benzema because it will trigger a strong reaction from some Liverpool fans. I think it's only natural that both teams can claim they will win the Champions League Trophy this season. But this illegitimate confession will certainly be the subject of ridicule for Their own Team if they fail to get the Trophy. Benzema this season It's quite shining with Real Madrid in both Laliga and the Champions League, but can Benzema bring Madrid to the Champions League Trophy?

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 25, 2022, 03:00:17 PM

Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

If they talk about celebrating but basically they don't claim to win, they just want to celebrate regardless of winning or losing. So I don't think there's a problem with that, unless they claim they won before the game and if that happens then I believe it's something wrong. Also, the chances for these two teams in my view are the same, because Real Madrid also has a solid team accompanied by a chemistry that certainly cannot be underestimated at all. Anyway, I don't think Liverpool claimed the win before playing, I'm sure it's not true.

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Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

There is absolutely no one that understands football that will write Real Madrid off in the Champions League finals. What are your reasons of writing them off?
They have a very good attacking line, one of the bests in the world. They are the most experienced midfield in the world and also a good defence line.
I do not think that anyone is writing Real Madrid off. When you check history, the winning favours Real Madrid than Liverpool.
Real Madrid has Champions league record than Liverpool and again and the most important of them is that Real Madrid eliminated the most powerful contenders of the Champions League in a dramatic way. PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City.

You are on point Real Madrid is strong just like Liverpool, but Liverpool fans have made so much noise lately that the whole championship observers are seeing the club as if they have already won the finals. I believe in Real Madrid just as I believe in Liverpool and the final match is going to be a game of luck for both clubs. I can make any predictions as to which club will win the championship final game but am sure the 90 minutes is going to end with a draw if care is not taken.

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