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Quote from: ShowOff on May 25, 2022, 12:15:57 PM

Liverpool are favorites by the media, that's never good because actually they are a team that is in a final without a hard road. Look at their run in the last 16, quarter-finals and semi-finals because I don't think any team out of all three has put Liverpool below them in terms of quality. Very different to Real Madrid who had to beat PSG, Chelsea and City to reach the final this season. So I think Liverpool will be the 4th big team that Real Madrid might beat to win the title.

It's true that this season Liverpool made it a little easier to reach the final than Real Madrid, but please don't think that Inter, Benfica and Villareal are easy opponents to beat. Liverpool can't be considered easy to beat them all because basically all teams also want to win and qualify for the final.

It doesn't matter if you and other fans think that Real Madrid will win the match and the Champions League title this season from Liverpool, but I have never been alone with Liverpool. As a fan I am 100% sure that this season's Champions League title will be the perfect end this season for Liverpool, it will be a great reality.

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Quote from: masulum on May 25, 2022, 12:23:04 PM

Quote from: naira on May 25, 2022, 12:01:40 PM

No matter how difficult the decision, I must be prepared to risk the bet. And for a decision that has been made quite unanimous and for a long time, Real Madrid is my choice. It's not that I don't believe in Liverpool, it's just that every decision means whatever the result is that the one who wins and takes the Champions League trophy is the best club for this season.

In betting, to support Madrid or Liverpool is a difficult decision. Because we are in a neutral position. It will be different if we as supporters or fans of the club, of course 90% will choose the team we support over the opposing team. You are also not wrong in choosing if you have believed in Madrid from the start. This season, their performance is good, I think the chances of both are still 50:50, but Ancelotti can give Madrid a plus, with his history as a coach who has won the UCL trophy.

That's why I believe Liverpool is going to be a lot more interested and determined to win the UEFA Champions League. everyone is saying that Real Madrid is here because this is their time in the Champions League and they are going to win it but people are not saying that Liverpool has the better squad compared to Real Madrid. I know that Real Madrid have played against superior teams before and won in the Champions League. but I think with Liverpool it might be different.

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Liverpool is making so much noise. Benzima recently stated that Liverpool is acting as if they have already won the Champions league finals. But he received several several backlash from Liverpool fans and even from some of the club's legends. Liverpool is in a better position to win this Champions league. They have the best players in Europe and their strikers are the most dependable. The Liverpool defense is second to known and Klopp is technically sound. But in the game of Soccer anything can happen. Sometimes winning in soccer is a function of the combination of quality and/or luck. Hence, Real Madrid cannot be written -off. They have the quality and experience to win this trophy.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on May 25, 2022, 01:06:55 PM

Quote from: DU18 on May 25, 2022, 12:53:15 PM

It is difficult to predict which team will be the winner, but in my opinion even though Liverpool failed to win a trophy in the domestic league but their performance has been tested at this time, indeed Ancelotti has extraordinary experience in the Champions League but at least Liverpool squad this season is more capable and evenly distributed in every line, is why Liverpool are the favorites in the final, I think if both teams play aggressively throughout the match, of course the strategy of the two coaches will automatically be destroyed, so the hard work and mentality of the team will be the winning factor.

in this case I agree with what you say, regardless of what now Liverpool's dominance is really strong. Forget about how the paths of these two clubs are indeed different because both teams now still have the same chance even though Liverpool are favored by the bookies.
I think it's going to be fun for now, let's hope there aren't the same mistakes as the previous seasons because that would make this uninteresting

If we compare the two teams, the Liverpool team will be more organized and stronger. Although Liverpool did not win the Premier League title, they continued to fight until last week. Liverpool has won almost every Champions League match. On the other hand, although not Real Madrid, they have won almost every match because of Benzema's good performance. However, the final match will definitely be competitive.

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Quote from: DU18 on May 25, 2022, 12:53:15 PM

It is difficult to predict which team will be the winner, but in my opinion even though Liverpool failed to win a trophy in the domestic league but their performance has been tested at this time, indeed Ancelotti has extraordinary experience in the Champions League but at least Liverpool squad this season is more capable and evenly distributed in every line, is why Liverpool are the favorites in the final, I think if both teams play aggressively throughout the match, of course the strategy of the two coaches will automatically be destroyed, so the hard work and mentality of the team will be the winning factor.

in this case I agree with what you say, regardless of what now Liverpool's dominance is really strong. Forget about how the paths of these two clubs are indeed different because both teams now still have the same chance even though Liverpool are favored by the bookies.
I think it's going to be fun for now, let's hope there aren't the same mistakes as the previous seasons because that would make this uninteresting

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Quote from: DU18 on May 25, 2022, 12:53:15 PM

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Quote from: naira on May 25, 2022, 12:01:40 PM

No matter how difficult the decision, I must be prepared to risk the bet. And for a decision that has been made quite unanimous and for a long time, Real Madrid is my choice. It's not that I don't believe in Liverpool, it's just that every decision means whatever the result is that the one who wins and takes the Champions League trophy is the best club for this season.

In betting, to support Madrid or Liverpool is a difficult decision. Because we are in a neutral position. It will be different if we as supporters or fans of the club, of course 90% will choose the team we support over the opposing team. You are also not wrong in choosing if you have believed in Madrid from the start. This season, their performance is good, I think the chances of both are still 50:50, but Ancelotti can give Madrid a plus, with his history as a coach who has won the UCL trophy.

It is difficult to predict which team will be the winner, but in my opinion even though Liverpool failed to win a trophy in the domestic league but their performance has been tested at this time, indeed Ancelotti has extraordinary experience in the Champions League but at least Liverpool squad this season is more capable and evenly distributed in every line, is why Liverpool are the favorites in the final, I think if both teams play aggressively throughout the match, of course the strategy of the two coaches will automatically be destroyed, so the hard work and mentality of the team will be the winning factor.

This is what the coach asks of his players, mental hard work and always being aggressive throughout the game. Ancelotti's quality is unquestionable, he had previously won the Champions League title with Real Madrid. Now Ancelotti is trying his second success with the club from the Spanish capital, but this time the opponent they face is tough. Liverpool have been very good all season, Ancelotti has to take every Liverpool player into account, because they can be a nightmare for Real Madrid and Ancelotti.

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Quote from: masulum on May 25, 2022, 12:23:04 PM

Quote from: naira on May 25, 2022, 12:01:40 PM

No matter how difficult the decision, I must be prepared to risk the bet. And for a decision that has been made quite unanimous and for a long time, Real Madrid is my choice. It's not that I don't believe in Liverpool, it's just that every decision means whatever the result is that the one who wins and takes the Champions League trophy is the best club for this season.

In betting, to support Madrid or Liverpool is a difficult decision. Because we are in a neutral position. It will be different if we as supporters or fans of the club, of course 90% will choose the team we support over the opposing team. You are also not wrong in choosing if you have believed in Madrid from the start. This season, their performance is good, I think the chances of both are still 50:50, but Ancelotti can give Madrid a plus, with his history as a coach who has won the UCL trophy.

It is difficult to predict which team will be the winner, but in my opinion even though Liverpool failed to win a trophy in the domestic league but their performance has been tested at this time, indeed Ancelotti has extraordinary experience in the Champions League but at least Liverpool squad this season is more capable and evenly distributed in every line, is why Liverpool are the favorites in the final, I think if both teams play aggressively throughout the match, of course the strategy of the two coaches will automatically be destroyed, so the hard work and mentality of the team will be the winning factor.

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Quote from: masulum on May 25, 2022, 12:23:04 PM

Quote from: naira on May 25, 2022, 12:01:40 PM

No matter how difficult the decision, I must be prepared to risk the bet. And for a decision that has been made quite unanimous and for a long time, Real Madrid is my choice. It's not that I don't believe in Liverpool, it's just that every decision means whatever the result is that the one who wins and takes the Champions League trophy is the best club for this season.

In betting, to support Madrid or Liverpool is a difficult decision. Because we are in a neutral position. It will be different if we as supporters or fans of the club, of course 90% will choose the team we support over the opposing team. You are also not wrong in choosing if you have believed in Madrid from the start. This season, their performance is good, I think the chances of both are still 50:50, but Ancelotti can give Madrid a plus, with his history as a coach who has won the UCL trophy.

You're absolutely right, although I've actually liked both of them in their form this season. But only as a form of enlivening betting with many people where I don't want to miss playing. Indeed, when the second half Ancelotti was more dominant in making a very fast strategy flow and from increasing his comeback there was no doubt about it.

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Quote from: hd49728 on May 25, 2022, 11:46:12 AM

Quote from: Pesona1 on May 25, 2022, 11:09:27 AM

I think Liverpool will have the opportunity to win the treble winner if they beat Madrid in the final, indeed Liverpool failed to get the English Premier League trophy, but you don't forget that Liverpool have collected two trophies this season that is Carabao Cup and the FA, so it's wrong if you say Liverpool couldn't win the treble winner, if yesterday Liverpool could get the English league of course maybe Klopp would give a quadruple to Liverpool fans, but unfortunately they have to admit the superiority of Manchester City in the league this season, while Madrid they only managed to win the La Liga trophy this season and the trophy champions league will be the second trophy they will get if they beat Liverpool later.

They are heading toward the trio but it is not easy because the opponent in Paris is Real Madrid. Real does not only have best record and history in Champions League but they also have a very impressive season so far. They are strong no matter they scored leading goals or had big disadvantage against opponents. 2 or 3 goals as disadvantage is not impossible for them break through.

Liverpool will have to play so carefully even they can score goals and have advantage. Real Madrid know how to beat opponents within short period. If opponents are carelessly within 10 to 15 minutes, Real Madrid will beat them. Additionally, in football, nobody care that whether you have 70 or 80 very good minutes. The final result is important.

I actually think that Liverpool is going to concentrate in the last 10- 15 minutes because they have seen what happened to the previous opponents of Real Madrid. all of them thought that they had the match in their grasp and but they failed to eventually win the match. Liverpool just needs to be a lot more professional compared to the previous opponents of Real Madrid and really concentrate till the last whistle of the referee. and if Liverpool actually wants to relax in the last 10 minutes I suggest they should at least have an advantage of three or four goals.

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Quote from: naira on May 25, 2022, 12:01:40 PM

No matter how difficult the decision, I must be prepared to risk the bet. And for a decision that has been made quite unanimous and for a long time, Real Madrid is my choice. It's not that I don't believe in Liverpool, it's just that every decision means whatever the result is that the one who wins and takes the Champions League trophy is the best club for this season.

In betting, to support Madrid or Liverpool is a difficult decision. Because we are in a neutral position. It will be different if we as supporters or fans of the club, of course 90% will choose the team we support over the opposing team. You are also not wrong in choosing if you have believed in Madrid from the start. This season, their performance is good, I think the chances of both are still 50:50, but Ancelotti can give Madrid a plus, with his history as a coach who has won the UCL trophy.

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Quote from: Pesona1 on May 25, 2022, 11:09:27 AM

I think Liverpool will have the opportunity to win the treble winner if they beat Madrid in the final, indeed Liverpool failed to get the English Premier League trophy, but you don't forget that Liverpool have collected two trophies this season that is Carabao Cup and the FA, so it's wrong if you say Liverpool couldn't win the treble winner, if yesterday Liverpool could get the English league of course maybe Klopp would give a quadruple to Liverpool fans, but unfortunately they have to admit the superiority of Manchester City in the league this season, while Madrid they only managed to win the La Liga trophy this season and the trophy champions league will be the second trophy they will get if they beat Liverpool later.

If last season the Champions League title was won by one of the English teams "Chelsea", then this season Real Madrid has the opportunity to win it back to Spain. Does that seem fair to think about?

Liverpool are favorites by the media, that's never good because actually they are a team that is in a final without a hard road. Look at their run in the last 16, quarter-finals and semi-finals because I don't think any team out of all three has put Liverpool below them in terms of quality. Very different to Real Madrid who had to beat PSG, Chelsea and City to reach the final this season. So I think Liverpool will be the 4th big team that Real Madrid might beat to win the title.

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Quote from: Doell on May 24, 2022, 12:35:53 PM

That's difficult to determine which club will win in this final, both of them will perform optimally, it's better to bet on goal odds or cards and others, if you want to bet. These both teams can give surprises at the beginning or at the last minute. Head to head statistics for the last 4 matches Real Madrid have never lost, goals for this match both teams are also difficult, it can to be under 2 or over 3 goals created in their matches.

No matter how difficult the decision, I must be prepared to risk the bet. And for a decision that has been made quite unanimous and for a long time, Real Madrid is my choice. It's not that I don't believe in Liverpool, it's just that every decision means whatever the result is that the one who wins and takes the Champions League trophy is the best club for this season.

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Quote from: Pesona1 on May 25, 2022, 11:09:27 AM

I think Liverpool will have the opportunity to win the treble winner if they beat Madrid in the final, indeed Liverpool failed to get the English Premier League trophy, but you don't forget that Liverpool have collected two trophies this season that is Carabao Cup and the FA, so it's wrong if you say Liverpool couldn't win the treble winner, if yesterday Liverpool could get the English league of course maybe Klopp would give a quadruple to Liverpool fans, but unfortunately they have to admit the superiority of Manchester City in the league this season, while Madrid they only managed to win the La Liga trophy this season and the trophy champions league will be the second trophy they will get if they beat Liverpool later.

They are heading toward the trio but it is not easy because the opponent in Paris is Real Madrid. Real does not only have best record and history in Champions League but they also have a very impressive season so far. They are strong no matter they scored leading goals or had big disadvantage against opponents. 2 or 3 goals as disadvantage is not impossible for them break through.

Liverpool will have to play so carefully even they can score goals and have advantage. Real Madrid know how to beat opponents within short period. If opponents are carelessly within 10 to 15 minutes, Real Madrid will beat them. Additionally, in football, nobody care that whether you have 70 or 80 very good minutes. The final result is important.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on May 25, 2022, 10:51:42 AM

Liverpool's position is the same as Real Madrid, Both clubs have only collected one trophy. Liverpool have won the FA CUP trophy while Real Madrid have secured the La Liga trophy. Both clubs still have a chance to get a double winner

Well actually Liverpool won both FA Cup and EFL Cup ( Carabao Cup ) so if they win the UCL then technically they will have three trophy this season. It might not seems like a major trophy but atleast its something to be proud of.

Liverpool might seems to be the slight favourite for the next game but Real Madrid's luck are going to help them in the last game. Imagine getting through all those hardship and turning it over with a comeback just to lose on the final game, thats probably not happening

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Quote from: Razmirraz on May 25, 2022, 10:51:42 AM

Quote from: GatotKaca on May 25, 2022, 12:22:12 AM

Liverpool wants to end the season with a triple winner. and Madrid who wants a double winner.

Liverpool's position is the same as Real Madrid, Both clubs have only collected one trophy. Liverpool have won the FA CUP trophy while Real Madrid have secured the La Liga trophy. Both clubs still have a chance to get a double winner, if the triple winner cannot be achieved anymore because Liverpool cannot win the Premier League trophy and Real Madrid failed to get the CDR trophy.

I think Liverpool will have the opportunity to win the treble winner if they beat Madrid in the final, indeed Liverpool failed to get the English Premier League trophy, but you don't forget that Liverpool have collected two trophies this season that is Carabao Cup and the FA, so it's wrong if you say Liverpool couldn't win the treble winner, if yesterday Liverpool could get the English league of course maybe Klopp would give a quadruple to Liverpool fans, but unfortunately they have to admit the superiority of Manchester City in the league this season, while Madrid they only managed to win the La Liga trophy this season and the trophy champions league will be the second trophy they will get if they beat Liverpool later.

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Quote from: GatotKaca on May 25, 2022, 12:22:12 AM

Liverpool wants to end the season with a triple winner. and Madrid who wants a double winner.

Liverpool's position is the same as Real Madrid, Both clubs have only collected one trophy. Liverpool have won the FA CUP trophy while Real Madrid have secured the La Liga trophy. Both clubs still have a chance to get a double winner, if the triple winner cannot be achieved anymore because Liverpool cannot win the Premier League trophy and Real Madrid failed to get the CDR trophy.

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Quote from: Davian144 on May 25, 2022, 10:21:02 AM

If Real Madrid are unbeaten to Liverpool in their last five meetings, is there any chance for Real Madrid to lose to Liverpool this season according to your opinion?
Because if you look at what you have said, in general it looks like Real Madrid will win, but in this case I'm still not sure because Liverpool at this time are also very good compared to previous seasons.

The previous meeting record might be a good reference when analyzing the next match. Based on the meeting record I admit that Real Madrid are better than Liverpool, but will that be a guarantee to say that Real Madrid can win the next match later? Of course not.

Liverpool have a good playing record this season, they finished second in the Premier League and have won two more titles. I think there is a passion they will try to achieve to complement their success and that is winning the Champions League title. The match will definitely be very emotional, it will be interesting.

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Quote from: Davian144 on May 25, 2022, 10:21:02 AM

Quote from: Nasuhalugu on May 25, 2022, 03:37:03 AM

Mohamed Salah and Karim Benzema will certainly be an interesting spectacle in the Champions League final which will take place at the Stade de France, with both of them having just won the top scorer title at their respective clubs, in the last five matches both teams have Real Madrid also superior. Los Blancos are unbeaten from Liverpool in their last five meetings with Liverpool. The details are four wins and one draw.

If Real Madrid are unbeaten to Liverpool in their last five meetings, is there any chance for Real Madrid to lose to Liverpool this season according to your opinion?
Because if you look at what you have said, in general it looks like Real Madrid will win, but in this case I'm still not sure because Liverpool at this time are also very good compared to previous seasons.

Liverpool this season is very strong and also they are very consistent, it's proven they have won 2 trophies this season in England.
this season is different from the previous season, I think the record of meeting the two teams cannot be used as an excuse to favorite one of them. This will be an interesting final because both teams have good mentality and confidence when competing on the highest European stage. in terms of players and consistency across games this season I think Liverpool will be able to win this season, I will bet on that.

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Quote from: Nasuhalugu on May 25, 2022, 03:37:03 AM

Mohamed Salah and Karim Benzema will certainly be an interesting spectacle in the Champions League final which will take place at the Stade de France, with both of them having just won the top scorer title at their respective clubs, in the last five matches both teams have Real Madrid also superior. Los Blancos are unbeaten from Liverpool in their last five meetings with Liverpool. The details are four wins and one draw.

If Real Madrid are unbeaten to Liverpool in their last five meetings, is there any chance for Real Madrid to lose to Liverpool this season according to your opinion?
Because if you look at what you have said, in general it looks like Real Madrid will win, but in this case I'm still not sure because Liverpool at this time are also very good compared to previous seasons.

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The difference here from a few years ago is the absence of Sergio in Madrid and Karius in Liverpool Cheesy

I still expect something exciting in this match because it will be very interesting to see when they are serious in doing the fight.
This is a final and opportunities don't come twice so they have to make the most of this opportunity

Although the groupings didn't allow that much of a chance but, I don't know whom would have been a better opponent for Real Madrid in the finals, Manchester City or Liverpool. Good enough Liverpool made it into the finals to have a second trier against Real Madrid from a few seasons ago. It seemed then like M. Salah was the one to lift the trophy for Liverpool before he was committed by S. Ramps in a tactical offense that led to his not continuing the match. It was so hard for M. Salah to leave the pitch and watch his team struggle on the pitch. Am sure he nursed the desire to meet Real Madrid again but this time, its a Real Madrid with S. Ramps and under a different management. I seriously don't know what to expect at this point!

Of course this will be exciting considering this will be a revenge mission for Liverpool considering their massacre in the Final a few seasons before.
But things like this are still fifty-fifty considering that of course Madrid is also in the middle of higher self-confidence and will again embarrass Liverpool.
although in terms of strength, maybe Liverpool are currently favored, but the majority of the players are arguably still the same as the previous few seasons which makes this an old grudge that is disturbed

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