UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 862.

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Quote from: kassex on December 09, 2020, 01:15:28 AM

Leizpig's victory was unexpected for me. The team was very nice. And the coach is quite strong. Reminds Borussia Dortmunt of the Klopp times. And Barcelona disappointed again. I haven’t seen it so helpless for a long time. Perhaps the team will gather in the next game.

How so unexpected?
Leipzig has been playing very strong lately, even beating Bayern in the Bundesliga.
I had the DNB Option for Leipzig and a smaller stake on the ML because I was pretty sure Leipzig would be actively trying to win this game.

Good for Leipzig, I like their style of play!

I also didn't expect Leipzig to play very well this season, both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League. Even though Leipzig this
season has been left behind by Erling Haaland and Timo Werner, this does not make Leipzig weak. What made me surprised when Leipzig
beat Manchester United, even made Manchester United have to leave the Champions League. Even in the Bundesliga only 2 points away
from Bayern, there is a possibility of winning trophies if Bayern and Dortmund are not careful.

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Quote from: minatour on December 08, 2020, 05:37:48 PM

Manchester United lost to Leipzig, which means they are out of the champions league again and will be moving to play Europa league. Am very disappointed in the team for wasting their chance to book a slot in the quarters.

it became evident that manchester unted needs to leave certain players and place other players because with certain players the team is not going anywhere. i only see bruno fernandez with a player who is useful, but the other players need to be reviewed and possibly replaced. being a fan of manchester united must be very tough, the level of constant disappointment is high, thankfully i'm not a fan of manchester united.

Real Madrid - Monchengladbach

it will be a very difficult game for real madrid and i don't understand why the odd is @ 1.60 in favor of real madrid, are they underestimating Monchengladbach?

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Liverpool could rotate the squad tonight https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1370124/Liverpool-team-news-expected-Midtjylland-Jurgen-Klopp

as the article suggests, very likely that we see maybe two or thee players from the main starting XI. Midtjylland upset incoming?

Quote from: adamvp on December 09, 2020, 05:21:16 AM

Today we will start with 3 matches.
2 group D and PSG - Baseksehir, BTW do you know if it will be continued or it will start from 0?

match will resume at 13' minute. Source: https://twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/1336433688385564672
this journo is legit when it comes to football news

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Today we will start with 3 matches.
2 group D and PSG - Baseksehir, BTW do you know if it will be continued or it will start from 0? And what with cards from yesterday? PSG will fight for 1st place in group, so they should mobilize to win it

In group D Liverpool is sure to take 1st place so it gives possibility for surprising result against Midtjylland.
Atalanta Bergamo will face to Ajax in Amsterdam and this should be definitelly most interesting of these 3 matches.
Ajax surprisingly lost to Twente last league matchday, but maybe the reason is they are more focused on CL now?
And Atalanta has not played

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Quote from: kassex on December 09, 2020, 01:15:28 AM

Leizpig's victory was unexpected for me. The team was very nice. And the coach is quite strong. Reminds Borussia Dortmunt of the Klopp times. And Barcelona disappointed again. I haven’t seen it so helpless for a long time. Perhaps the team will gather in the next game.

How so unexpected?
Leipzig has been playing very strong lately, even beating Bayern in the Bundesliga.
I had the DNB Option for Leipzig and a smaller stake on the ML because I was pretty sure Leipzig would be actively trying to win this game.

Good for Leipzig, I like their style of play!

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Quote from: marioantonini on December 08, 2020, 07:17:39 PM

I was very pleased that the PSG players left the pitch together with those of Basaksehir, what happened today has no excuse, I read in an Italian newspaper that that idiom in Romanian is not offensive, but this is an international referee and cannot afford these things.
For the other games, I never thought that Juventus could humiliate Barcelona or that Manchester United could leave the Champions League.

I found such tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Emishor/status/1336422228649533444

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Also, before anything, please consider the fact that Coltescu, the 4th ref, is an emotionally fragile person, having tried to take his own life 12 years ago. The case was big in Romania back then.

So we should be carefull and not blame this referee too much.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on December 08, 2020, 05:23:55 PM

edit* forgot to post this pic, such a beautiful moment

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIjLLsyjqi5/

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Yeah, very nice picture
Even if barcelona was only a shadow compared to the past, I liked the match
and
I enjoyed watching the game on TV.. really - worth the ticket price paid and worth the time spent watching the game

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Quote from: kassex on December 09, 2020, 01:15:28 AM

Leizpig's victory was unexpected for me. The team was very nice. And the coach is quite strong. Reminds Borussia Dortmunt of the Klopp times.

RB Leipzig played well enough. And they have tried to make the best use of every opportunity they have. If you watch the full match, you will understand that Manchester Utd has a lot more chances to score than Leipzig. But still, they have been failed to score enough. Although Leipzig had fewer chances, they were able to score.

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I heard people when I was coming to work in the bus joking around with Barcelona.They had won money from this game yesterday from what I heard and the funniest thing I heard from them was “Barcelona lost to Cadiz let alone Juventus,we knew it was a sure win with 3.5 odds” and I think they are right.Chelsea the biggest surprise for me although they were already qualified.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on December 09, 2020, 12:23:33 AM

MU flopped in yesterday's match I was them to play well expecting an outright win from them having improved and in-form lately in premier league however they disappointed their teeming fans.

In the league, they are impressive 4 matches unbeaten, but MU is still MU with all its surprises that often make fans happy but also disappointed, and it looks like they have no more chances in CL.

Quote from: btcsmlcmnr on December 09, 2020, 01:21:11 AM

It is a surprise because Leipzig is very weaker than they were last season, in Champions League and in Bundesliga tournaments. Nevertheless, I am not surprised with the bad result and performance from Solsa and Manchester United. Solsa is bad as a coach and he slowly makes Manchester United become too much depend on Bruno Fernandes.

The opponents of Manchester United know this dependence and they certainly will often try to break the circuits between Bruno and his teammates. Sometimes they fail because they are weak or Bruno is too excellent but sometimes they succeed. Leipzig is an example of successful efforts to break and isolate Bruno Fernandes in order to get win against Manchester United.

Relying on one player is bad, and agree that Solsa is not very smart so their tactics llegible by the opposing team.

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Two unbelievable things happened yesterday: Barcelona got smashed really bad by Juventus (what an amazing score by the American player Weston McKennie!) and a very unfortunate series of events which caused PSG - BSK to cancel the match. These actions should be a thing of the past.

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Quote from: kassex on December 09, 2020, 01:15:28 AM

Leizpig's victory was unexpected for me. The team was very nice. And the coach is quite strong. Reminds Borussia Dortmunt of the Klopp times. And Barcelona disappointed again. I haven’t seen it so helpless for a long time. Perhaps the team will gather in the next game.

It is a surprise because Leipzig is very weaker than they were last season, in Champions League and in Bundesliga tournaments. Nevertheless, I am not surprised with the bad result and performance from Solsa and Manchester United. Solsa is bad as a coach and he slowly makes Manchester United become too much depend on Bruno Fernandes.

The opponents of Manchester United know this dependence and they certainly will often try to break the circuits between Bruno and his teammates. Sometimes they fail because they are weak or Bruno is too excellent but sometimes they succeed. Leipzig is an example of successful efforts to break and isolate Bruno Fernandes in order to get win against Manchester United.

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Leizpig's victory was unexpected for me. The team was very nice. And the coach is quite strong. Reminds Borussia Dortmunt of the Klopp times. And Barcelona disappointed again. I haven’t seen it so helpless for a long time. Perhaps the team will gather in the next game.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 09, 2020, 12:19:22 AM

Despite losing, Barcelona will still qualify for the next round. This is Barcelona's first defeat in the group. I hope Barcelona can make more improvement after this, they are still a big team.

Another bad match for Barcelona and even they managed to go next for Round-16, I have no belief that they will manage to go further than quarter round this season in Champions Leauge. They are weak, lots of problems with all of their system, defensive, midfield and attacking players. Messi looks very satisfied with this final season in Nou Camp. I don't say his bad rates so far is because of his burofax, and his intention to leave, it is the problems from Barca system and not only from Messi.

Koeman was right when he criticised the attitude of Barca player last week. 'I can handle the criticism. We cannot become obsessed by it': Ronald Koeman urges Barcelona stars to keep their heads amid financial storm and player rows engulfing the club

Barca might need a few seasons to come back with their full strength and competivity.

Looks good by the competition between Messi and Ronaldo and their good relationship beyond the field and matches.
I never saw Messi as a rival, Ronaldo says after Juventus win over Barcelona

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 08, 2020, 08:52:28 PM

Quote from: ingiltere on December 08, 2020, 07:26:06 PM

Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.

Afaik head to head stats would the one to be used as tie breaker if points are equal at the end of the group stage . If PSG is to fail tomorrow means that both PSG and MU has 9 points, but PSG is leading head to head by 2-1 and 1-3 means that PSG will stay on 2nd position no matter what is the result of their match against Basaksehir. Correct me if I'm wrong.

PSG would take their chances in today's match they wouldn't take anything for granted irrespective of their position on the table although the odd favors them based on head to head rule and their chances of qualifying to the next round is very bright, they are not on any pressure they would have done their permutations. MU flopped in yesterday's match I was them to play well expecting an outright win from them having improved and in-form lately in premier league however they disappointed their teeming fans.

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Quote from: Harkorede on December 08, 2020, 08:44:07 PM

Yeah bad another night for Barcelona, game/result from Juventus. Juventus played gratefully and Just indeed deserved the win, how every, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.

Despite losing, Barcelona will still qualify for the next round. This is Barcelona's first defeat in the group. I hope Barcelona can make more improvement after this, they are still a big team.

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Quote from: rdbase on December 08, 2020, 05:20:01 PM

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Still no report that the psg abandoned match will get resumed , it is been an hour, no updates.

Edit : the match will be resumed tomorrow 18.55 , source tancredi palmeri bein sports

At half time this is what was shown on the scoreboard at the time of the match being interrupted with no clear explanation of what was going to happen next:

It was shown as suspended but I guess they decided to resume it at a later date until everything was sorted out first.
From what I understood is if the Başakşehir match didn't get resumed then Manchester Utd would still be able to stay in only if they beat Paris St.Germain. Embarrassed

They have been offered to replace this romanian referee so the match can continue but basaksehir refused and want all the official referee to be replaced entirely, psg agree and then decided the match to be resumed later in the next day.
There is no chance for manchester united indeed just like many people said above for whatever the result in this match as they have letting the chance go by losing to leipzig, no way back , united to europa league and sayonara ole , he will get sacked soon.

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Quote from: lifeOK on December 08, 2020, 10:49:24 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on December 08, 2020, 08:44:07 PM

Quote from: ingiltere on December 08, 2020, 07:26:06 PM

Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

Yeah bad another night for Barcelona, game/result from Juventus. Juventus played gratefully and Just indeed deserved the win, how every, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.

Another night Cristiano Ronaldo effect, he was doing what he does, he scored 2 penalty. Meantime, Barcelona in a rebuilding process with great mentors. Let give him some time he has a very young squad. As far as my concern this team ain't doing such bad.

I don’t think that there’s any chance for Manchester United to be back in champions league now, because even if PSG lose they’ll yet be in. Furthermore Ronaldo just can’t stop upsetting Messi can he now, and it’s such a shame that these two are not playing in the same league week after week.

https://i.postimg.cc/ncsDnkZm/DCBB3690-11-E1-4-CEB-AAFA-971684-E9-C64-A.jpg

Sources:

https://www.goal.com/en/news/what-do-manchester-united-need-to-qualify-for-the-champions/145oicn23i851mtwbymemqgfa

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/news-twitter-explodes-juventus-cristiano-ronaldo-destroy-barcelona-3-0

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 08, 2020, 08:52:28 PM

Afaik head to head stats would the one to be used as tie breaker if points are equal at the end of the group stage . If PSG is to fail tomorrow means that both PSG and MU has 9 points, but PSG is leading head to head by 2-1 and 1-3 means that PSG will stay on 2nd position no matter what is the result of their match against Basaksehir. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes you are correct. PSG are leading right now with better head to head stats. It was all from the left- wing back Angelino who was heavily involved for Leipzig. Leipzig knew how crucial it was but United thought it too easy and Ole thought it differently and his side got kicked out of CL.

Now looking back at things, United were leading the group but in later stage got thrashed quite badly in last two CL games against PSG and Leipzig.

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Quote from: Harkorede on December 08, 2020, 08:44:07 PM

Quote from: ingiltere on December 08, 2020, 07:26:06 PM

Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

Yeah bad another night for Barcelona, game/result from Juventus. Juventus played gratefully and Just indeed deserved the win, how every, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.

Another night Cristiano Ronaldo effect, he was doing what he does, he scored 2 penalty. Meantime, Barcelona in a rebuilding process with great mentors. Let give him some time he has a very young squad. As far as my concern this team ain't doing such bad.

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