UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 863.

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Quote from: ingiltere on December 08, 2020, 08:26:06 PM

Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.

Afaik head to head stats would the one to be used as tie breaker if points are equal at the end of the group stage . If PSG is to fail tomorrow means that both PSG and MU has 9 points, but PSG is leading head to head by 2-1 and 1-3 means that PSG will stay on 2nd position no matter what is the result of their match against Basaksehir. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Quote from: ingiltere on December 08, 2020, 08:26:06 PM

Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

Yeah another bad night for Barcelona, game/result versus Juventus. Juventus played great and just indeed deserve the win, however, I felt one of those penalties for Juventus was a bit harsh.

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Manchester United tried a comeback after 80th minute but it wasn't enough for them. Now they hope for Paris Saint-Germain to fail tomorrow.
Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game will be played tomorrow.

The shocking result of the night was Barcelona loss, they finished group in 2nd place because of that third goal. We'll see how this play a role in next stage draw. Sometimes you see better teams come from 2nd place, it's all about draw luck.

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I was very pleased that the PSG players left the pitch together with those of Basaksehir, what happened today has no excuse, I read in an Italian newspaper that that idiom in Romanian is not offensive, but this is an international referee and cannot afford these things.
For the other games, I never thought that Juventus could humiliate Barcelona or that Manchester United could leave the Champions League.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 08, 2020, 06:21:46 AM

For sure the most interesting games are in the PSG group with 3 teams at 9 points, who will pass? My bet is obvious for PSG and United with Leipzig in Europa League...

PSG can't fail the access to the final stage, United is more likely but I don't think it will happen.

Forgot to comment on it...
I watched the game with Juventus of course but in the end, it happened.

Again Manchester United failed the 1st yearly objective, they need to refound everything they can continue in this path.

Champions bring to much money and a team can't fail to pass the group stage especially now with COVID.

Passing or not passion the group stage is a 30 million in the difference in the balance (it should be more but now we have no people at the stadium)

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Man Utd ending wasn't quite bad as they was really close to score for 3:3
PSG - Baseksehir will be finished tomorrow

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Manchester United in the Champions League this season is like a beautiful movie, with a strong start and its ending is weak. People forget the scenario and the details and remember the conclusion.
Missed opportunities at decisive moments and falling in front of Turkish team was the turning point that will be costing expensively. Migeslmann's Leipzig team exposed the tactical weaknesses in OGS so from now on he will be judged for his performance in the league and if he succeed he will be allowed to repair his defense if not the Axe will be waiting for him while Pochettinho will be looking for a house in Manchester.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on December 08, 2020, 06:23:55 PM

Now Barca finished 2nd in the group and could face Bayern, Liverpool or Man City...oh boy Roll Eyes

It will be lucky if Barcelona meets Man. City in the next stage. But it can be a nightmare if they should face Bayern or Liverpool. So, I think Barcelona still has a chance to survive and continue to the next stage. If they against Man City, I assume Barcelona has a bigger chance to win. Let's hope that Barcelona won't get a nightmare on the stage. Cheesy

Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 08, 2020, 07:08:44 PM

So is Juventus not so bad after all or is Barca a really trash team right now?

Yeah, Juventus is surely better than Barcelona.
Juventus has much better players, while Barcelona has a crisis in quality players. Plus, experiencing a crisis in mentality to win. Nowadays isn't a good time for Barcelona to face a big team like Juventus.

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So is Juventus not so bad after all or is Barca a really trash team right now?

Impressive game from us and we achieved what was almost impossible before the game, the 1st spot in the group and statistically a better draw for the final stage.

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Quote from: minatour on December 08, 2020, 06:37:48 PM

Manchester United lost to Leipzig, which means they are out of the champions league again and will be moving to play Europa league. Am very disappointed in the team for wasting their chance to book a slot in the quarters.

Manchester United's game is very inconsistent, so it's only natural that Leipzig can beat them. Which surprised me, the appearance of
Peter Gulacsi, who played admirably by making 7 saves, in my opinion it is suitable as a man of the match in that match. Then Angelino
also contributed to Leipzig's victory by providing one goal and one assist. It is very regrettable for a team as big as Manchester United to
leave the Champions League, but this is the fact that Leipzig and PSG deserve to qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on December 08, 2020, 06:23:55 PM

both teams used their best starting XI available, looks to me like the managers and the players didn't think it was a meaningless match

Now Barca finished 2nd in the group and could face Bayern, Liverpool or Man City...oh boy Roll Eyes

Given the fact that Barcelona would qualify eventhough if They lose, it seems some players wasnt that motivated in the game though despite the managers were choosing to go with his best Starting Squad.

I wasnt that surprised either, Barcelona is kinda bad in LaLiga right now so yeah this could the best that They could do right now

Quote from: tomahawk9 on December 08, 2020, 06:23:55 PM

been there done that Wink rookie mistakes tho...hopefully you've learned to avoid those no-value lines, next step will be to start searching for the good value lines at 1.5x or higher. I usually look for 1.70 or higher, if i go for anything lower is prolly cos it's the best line i could find in the event i'm betting on

True, I'd stick with 1.7-2.4 odds because that is probably the best value.

Quote from: masulum on December 08, 2020, 06:15:05 PM

MU are lost. Chelsea,

Manchester United probably wasnt expecting that early goals. Manchester United won in the first round by 5 goals and that probably would be the reason why Ole choose to go with silly lineups like that. Both Luke Shaw and Telles are on the field , How silly can this be. The team will be paying for the price because of this silly lineups because I dont think Manchester United would qualify for the next round even if PSG lose to Basaksehir

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Manchester United lost to Leipzig, which means they are out of the champions league again and will be moving to play Europa league. Am very disappointed in the team for wasting their chance to book a slot in the quarters.

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Quote from: NotATether on December 08, 2020, 05:58:20 PM

Lesson learned - just because the favorite team is on 1.37 odds doesn't mean they're going to win. <...>

been there done that Wink

rookie mistakes tho...hopefully you've learned to avoid those no-value lines, next step will be to start searching for the good value lines at 1.5x or higher. I usually look for 1.70 or higher, if i go for anything lower is prolly cos it's the best line i could find in the event i'm betting on

Quote from: LTU_btc on December 08, 2020, 06:01:41 PM

Even if it's meaningless game, it's still very painful to lose 3:0 at home.

both teams used their best starting XI available, looks to me like the managers and the players didn't think it was a meaningless match

Now Barca finished 2nd in the group and could face Bayern, Liverpool or Man City...oh boy Roll Eyes

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Quote from: daarul50 on December 08, 2020, 06:10:58 PM

Still no report that the psg abandoned match will get resumed , it is been an hour, no updates.

Edit : the match will be resumed tomorrow 18.55 , source tancredi palmeri bein sports

At half time this is what was shown on the scoreboard at the time of the match being interrupted with no clear explanation of what was going to happen next:

It was shown as suspended but I guess they decided to resume it at a later date until everything was sorted out first.
From what I understood is if the Başakşehir match didn't get resumed then Manchester Utd would still be able to stay in only if they beat Paris St.Germain. Embarrassed

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hmph..

Several match in UCL today made many people wrong.
the teams that almost all rely on cannot win games. like, Barcelona and MU are lost. Chelsea, Lazio can only get a draw. I think it's a bad thing for those who bet all of these teams win.

Congrats for Lazio being qualified, next Atalanta and Inter, hard but I wish they can win and keep the slot for the next round, so all of team from Italy are going to the next round

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Quote from: rdbase on December 08, 2020, 05:13:02 PM

Quote from: ingiltere on December 08, 2020, 05:08:23 PM

Paris Saint-Germain - Başakşehir game is stopped.
4th referee said something racist to Webo and players reacted that. Both teams went to locker room and match is stopped.
Now officials decided that the match will be continued, I think that referees career is over now.

Demba Ba had the biggest reaction. You can see here: https://twitter.com/OG_umaru/status/1336411353511243785

Yes I was watching the game while it all was transpiring.

Stopped in the 14' minute and all players walked into their respective dressing rooms. Due to a romanian 4th official using a racial slur towards the paris player getting booked. All those officials will get sacked for sure. Roll Eyes

But just in the last few minutes they are saying it might resume.
Still not confirmed.
PSG must of looked at the table and see they are in third place in their division the way the other games are going. Cheesy

Shame on them , it is not players racism anymore , even a referee who basically taught to promote the no room for racism who did it this time, fucked up.
Great gesture by the way as PSG players joins to walk off the pitch , i am out of words for this dumb referee.
But as it stands , manchester united kicked out from the champions league after losing to leipzig 3-2.
Still no report that the psg abandoned match will get resumed , it is been an hour, no updates.

Edit : the match will be resumed tomorrow 18.55 , source tancredi palmeri bein sports

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Even if it's meaningless game, it's still very painful to lose 3:0 at home. Just awful defence. I'm looking at winners of other groups and it's scary, Barca can get City, Liverpool, Bayern or Dortmund in next round.
MU - welcome to Europa league Cheesy

. I thought that they will be humiliated by Leipzig today, but they almost made comeback. Though, I would say that penalty was really questionable.
It's shameful thing what happened in Paris. Especially considering that not some random fan made rasicm abuse, but 4th referee. I think it was last match in career for him. Most likely that PSG will be awarded 3:0 win, because Istanbul players refused to continue game.
Chelsea failed to win against Krasnodar, but they are already in 1st place and game was meaningless for both teams.

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Very well deserving victory by Juventus . They were playing so much dominating this match and Buffon is pure world-class and age is just a number for him.
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Manchester United are out of the Champions League and will play in Europa League.

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Well, it has not been my night. I'll need to go make another deposit.

Lesson learned - just because the favorite team is on 1.37 odds doesn't mean they're going to win. And I've had my fair share of games lately where <1.5x markets that were supposed to be no-brainers crashed on me, only for 2-4x markets that made sense but carried for some risks to win instead.

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Leipzig is ahead 3 goals now!
I heard this "racist issue" was only misunderstanding, referee said something like "negro" which is completely
ordinary word in Romanian language, but it was too much anyway..

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