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Of course Turkey made huge mistakes. Above all else, the 2nd goal was nothing different than a joke. The other goals were also because of silly defensive weaknesses. If they played better I have 0 doubt Portugal would have serious difficulties. Do you really think Portugal have been that impressive so far? I don't agree if you do.

Based on the same logic if I wouldn't make a fool of myself by dropping the ball, falling on the field and I would serve with 100% accuracy I would trash Nadal 6-0 6-0. Just as I told the guy above, If Turkey hadn't received 3 goals but instead scored 1 they would have won, but!, they did because that's how they played!
If SanMarino would make a game in which they make zero mistakes they would beat Argentina 10-0, but they can't play as well as that just as Turkey can't play without major errors when facing a real adversary.

I don't understand why is there so much copium in Turkeys' camp, Romania beat Ukraine 3-0 but got trashed by Belgium yet I don't see anyone blaming the alignment of Uranus and Pluto on the result.

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I wanted to underline the Portugal match and a certain Cristiano Ronaldo who became the best assistman in the history of the European Championships. There is no point in underlining his greatness. He is truly a giant who breaks record after record. He is also the player who has played in the most European Championships. 6 in particular he is truly amazing what a wonderful player
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The biggest challenge for Lukaku isn't the opponent's defense, but rather VAR. Lukaku may become the top scorer if all of his goals are not ruled out by VAR, and it appears that his big physique contributed to his chances of being caught by var. It saddens me that people continue to blame him, despite the fact that Lukaku assisted once in the game against Rumania.



God!!This VAR regulation is becoming even more ridiculous since Lukaku has huge knees, which VAR interprets as an offside.

But rules are rules, if they are violated even by a millimeter, then this is a violation. Yes, this is unpleasant, but imagine if the referee counted goals in such situations? The defending team would be outraged. To avoid such situations, the attacker should not “hang” on the offside line, but should run out from behind the defender at the right moment.
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Scotland vs Hungary

This match is very important for both teams as neither can afford to share points at this stage. Scotland has only one point so far after a draw against Switzerland and losing against Germany, making this a potential opportunity to take advantage on Switzerland, who face Germany with lower chances of winning today. Meanwhile, Hungary can keep their hopes alive in advancing from the group stage if they secure three points today. The close match odds of 2.60 - 3.80 - 2.45 is showing us the competitiveness and also a promising entertaining match hopefully.

Germany against Switzerland in the other also can be exciting one as the latter needs points to avoid complex calculations for the next round. Both teams will aim for a potentially weaker opponent by finishing first in the group standings.
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Of course Turkey made huge mistakes. Above all else, the 2nd goal was nothing different than a joke. The other goals were also because of silly defensive weaknesses. If they played better I have 0 doubt Portugal would have serious difficulties. Do you really think Portugal have been that impressive so far? I don't agree if you do.

Against Czechia for example. Do you think Portugal performed well? They had huge problems on winning the match. I would really like to watch Portugal against Germany for example. Most probably they would fail.  Smiley
After the second goal occurred, the Turkish players were increasingly under pressure and their confidence decreased due to fatal mistakes at the back. As a result, the direction of the match was increasingly dominated by Portugal, which made it increasingly difficult for Turkey to get out of the pressure. This victory meant that Portugal did not have the slightest burden in the final match of the group stage because whatever the result they were certain to qualify for the next round.

While Turkey still has a chance to qualify, they must achieve victory in the last match or at least a draw and Georgia failed to get full points from Portugal. I think Turkey will not have any problems when facing Georgia, it is very likely that they will accompany Portugal to qualify for the next round.
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Also, I don't understand why some still think Turkey made some mistakes and that they could have played better or some, forgetting they did beat Georgia but it's a team that has never played before at the Euro, a team coming from the last qualified and ended in group stages after Scotland and Norway on fourth position. Seriously, what did anyone expect?

Of course Turkey made huge mistakes. Above all else, the 2nd goal was nothing different than a joke. The other goals were also because of silly defensive weaknesses. If they played better I have 0 doubt Portugal would have serious difficulties. Do you really think Portugal have been that impressive so far? I don't agree if you do.

Against Czechia for example. Do you think Portugal performed well? They had huge problems on winning the match. I would really like to watch Portugal against Germany for example. Most probably they would fail.  Smiley
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Why not? Germany and Switzerland are both happy with 1 point, why risking your players with both fatigue and the threat of accumulating yellow cards
when you can simply play the game as you play a training match and everyone is happy?
It's the perfect break in the middle of the competition!
I have seen the press conference from Germany and here Nagelsmann said that he dont change the starting squad.
Even there are palyers that have already yellow cards , he justified this that other players can replace the ones if they get a second card.
Also he wants to win tha game against Switzerland not just playing draw , germany will be going fully in today for that game.
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Group E is very tight where each team has 3 points. As a result, with these results, Belgium and Romania are still not safe from qualifying for the preliminary round.

This is the most tense group where all teams have the same points and they all have the same chance of qualifying. Each team has achieved one win and that is an important asset to determine their chances of qualifying for the knockout rounds. It's just that Belgium is the unluckiest seed in this group phase after suffering a previous defeat against Slovakia, but there is still hope after they managed to beat Romania.

I'm curious which two teams will progress to the next round and of course I favor Belgium because they also have other capital than goal difference. But they still have to win if they don't want to be eliminated from the group stage. Romania is a dark horse team in this European event and maybe we will be able to see it take a step forward with Belgium in the final match.
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Germany may be cruising to victory today but it will not be an easy one because Switzerland need the win as much as Germany.

Germany is qualified no matter what, Switzerland needs 1 point to be sure of it, and there is hardly the same need for a win between the two.

Germany and Switzerland are already in the safe zone; therefore, i see no justification for Germany and Switzerland holding themselves from going all in this game.

Why not? Germany and Switzerland are both happy with 1 point, why risking your players with both fatigue and the threat of accumulating yellow cards when you can simply play the game as you play a training match and everyone is happy?
It's the perfect break in the middle of the competition!

Also, I don't understand why some still think Turkey made some mistakes and that they could have played better or some, forgetting they did beat Georgia but it's a team that has never played before at the Euro, a team coming from the last qualified and ended in group stages after Scotland and Norway on fourth position. Seriously, what did anyone expect?

Turkey did well in their first match against Czechia  

When did that happened and what was the score?

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Our player failed miserable but he had a huge chance to score in the end and win the match.

Yup, I know, if only you would have scored more goals than they did you would have won!  Grin
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Portugal didn't even have to play well. Turkey just helped them score goals very easily. Normally none of those goals would be conceded this easy by a team which know how to defend. Turkey are still lacking in defense too much.  Sad

Therefore I can't say Portugal were impressive for real. If Turkey improved their defending there would be a huge chance for them to get at least one point. Remember the Portugal - Czechia game. Czechia knew how to defend and Portugal had huge difficulties. They barely won by a goal in the stoppage time. Turkey have a much bigger player quality than Czechia. They wouldn't lose like Czechia did if they played decently.

Lastly this is on Montella... His player preferences were like a joke.

The biggest reason why Turkey lost was the wrong player choices. If you do not play the best player of the team, it is impossible to gain points in such a match. Turkey's squad is not a very good squad anyway. Moreover, when he is on the field without Arda Güler, he does not have much chance of scoring a goal anyway.
Defenders are terrible, Turkey doesn't have much of a chance with these defenders. This is the most important reason why they conceded 3 goals
Portugal is better of than Turkey and stringer than them. This was why the match ended that way. Portugal has some good players in their team and that is the advantage that they had over Turkey.

Turkey did well in their first match against Czechia and that is why some people are complaining but the fact is that even if Turkey have their best players on the pitch, they will not be able to win Portugal. Turkey will be the next country to qualify to the round of 16 with Portugal.
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Talking of the game as training to Portugal, I totally disagree on that, the Turkish team gave in a good fight, just that their greatest undoing was their defensive performance, and I believe that if their defensive performance was better, it wouldn't be that easy for Portugal at all, as the result make it look like.

yeah Türkiye didn't play too bad. they created several opportunities and that proves that Portugal actually also has gaps. unfortunately the Turkish attackers found it difficult to score. Portugal's performance is certainly considered above Turkey's, but looking at the match that took place, Portugal did not underestimate Türkiye.

In their group, Portugal is clearly the favorite. and they will easily become group winners. tough odds for the Czechs and Georgians.
I think Turkey had some good moments and Portugal had some defense holes. Final score reveals much. It was clear that Portugal was the better team, and Turkey's "opportunities" were really just half-chances against a Portugal team happy to keep the game under control instead of attacking. Don't forget that Ronaldo's help in setting up Bruno's tap-in was more of a bonus than a mistake on defense

This group is for Portugal. Even if they haven't been performing well, they have the potential and experience to win. Turkey, Czech Republic, and Georgia are fighting for scraps, and the remaining qualification positions will be difficult to win. This isn't the "Group of Death"

There is no doubt about Portugal's victory over Turkey and in terms of FiFa's level it is very different so it is not surprising that Portugal won with a landslide score of 3-0. It is impossible that in this match Portugal's defense line had a weakness, in fact what is visible is that Turkey had fewer opportunities. This second victory determines Portugal's progress to the next round better without having to play hard in the last match.
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Belgium who were previously doubtful to achieve positive results against Romania can finally breathe a sigh of relief now after they were able to win their first 3 points in the match, achieving 3 points in the match certainly keeps Belgium hopes of being able to qualify for the round of 16, all teams in group E have currently played two matches with all teams winning 1 and 1 loss so indeed all teams are currently collecting 3 points And of course the last match will be decisive for all teams to be able to ensure their passage to the round of 16, Belgium will face Ukraine in their last match and of course it will be a difficult match for Belgium considering Ukraine also has a good squad to face Belgium later.

Belgium team are very talented with a very good squad and from the beginning of Euro Belgium has already been recognized to be very strong and seeing there performance on there group they are not doing bad at all and is good for them to have won there last match with Romania if not it would have become a challenge for them to progress on there group, however there performance on that match was so interesting because they dominated the match from the beginning to the end and giving Romania a very difficult time, so right now they currently have 3 points though they would have actually have there 6 points intact but because of there poor effort on there match against Slovakia they had to lose and now all the teams on the group E has an equal chances on qualifying.
The win over Romania puts Belgium in second place and they have the same chances as everyone else, I feel pretty confident that Belgium will get another win and qualify from the group stage, but in group E all the two games that have passed have 1 win and 1 loss for all teams, Belgium, Romania, Slovakia, and Ukraine all have 3 points each which means that the race in group E is very tight and competitive.

I also thought that Belgium might not be able to qualify because they lost at the beginning of their match but they proved themselves today to beat Romania, maybe Domenico Tedesco corrected his mistakes against Slovakia which made Belgium return to the realm of opportunities to get a ticket to qualify for the group phase, and indeed the match that was brought today was very different than against Slovakia before.
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After we performed really poorly against Portugal yesterday, the current condition of Group F is like this.



Portugal have already qualified as the leader. Now we have no other choice than focusing on finishing as 2nd. There is a chance to qualify being one of the best 4 third-finishers but why would we risk it, right?  Grin

We need to stay really solid against Czechia. They are very good at defending. We saw it in their Portugal match very clearly. We have a good attacking power but our coach should be more careful with selecting the right players for the starting eleven. I don't think Georgia can beat Portugal but our focus should still be no less than 3 points.
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Belgium managed to perform well in the match against Romania and these were the first 3 points which were quite important for Belgium to open up their hopes of qualifying from the group, even though from the start Belgium was quite the favorite, but we can see that getting through this group will not be easy, now in Group E all have the same chance to qualify for the group phase and I think Belgium has a large percentage because in the 3rd match they will face Ukraine and in terms of quality Belgium is slightly better.
All the teams in Group E have both collected 3 points, which of course will make the four teams' chances of qualifying for the next round look the same. However, I think there will still be quite a striking change in the future because a team like Belgium, which is strengthened by Kevin De Bruyne and Lukaku, will be the team most favored to get first place in group E. And in the next match for Belgium it won't be that difficult for Belgium even though opponents like Ukraine also have to be taken into account because now the number of points is the same and it can make the competition even fiercer.
I don't think the percentage to qualify from the group will be the same, among the four teams Belgium has a very large percentage to qualify from group E compared to Ukraine because we can realistically see that Belgium's strength is stronger than Ukraine so if there are no surprises big then Belgium can win in the Round 3 match later.
Meanwhile for Romania and Slovakia I think the percentage will be the same, this will be a match that is difficult to predict.
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There is a Switzerland-Germany match tonight, Germany has guaranteed to advance from the group. A draw is enough for both teams in this match, if Switzerland wins, they can advance from the group as leaders.
Switzerland has also guaranteed to advance from the group. Let's see how the match ends.
Germany will not hold on to demolish Switzerland. Germany is going to win the game with a clean sheet, I guess. Regarding the end consequence, neither Germany nor Switzerland will be particularly sympathetic to each other. And again, before Germany participates in the round of 16, the game against Switzerland can turn into an excellent practice match for rudiger's team. 

Germany and Switzerland are already in the safe zone; therefore, i see no justification for Germany and Switzerland holding themselves from going all in this game. 
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Belgium managed to perform well in the match against Romania and these were the first 3 points which were quite important for Belgium to open up their hopes of qualifying from the group, even though from the start Belgium was quite the favorite, but we can see that getting through this group will not be easy, now in Group E all have the same chance to qualify for the group phase and I think Belgium has a large percentage because in the 3rd match they will face Ukraine and in terms of quality Belgium is slightly better.
All the teams in Group E have both collected 3 points, which of course will make the four teams' chances of qualifying for the next round look the same. However, I think there will still be quite a striking change in the future because a team like Belgium, which is strengthened by Kevin De Bruyne and Lukaku, will be the team most favored to get first place in group E. And in the next match for Belgium it won't be that difficult for Belgium even though opponents like Ukraine also have to be taken into account because now the number of points is the same and it can make the competition even fiercer.
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God!!This VAR regulation is becoming even more ridiculous since Lukaku has huge knees, which VAR interprets as an offside.

This is what I hate about VAR, even 1mm-1cm offside may kill the whole game, FIFA really need to review their rules about offside and VAR.
VAR usage should be limited in a single game and I think it should be done by request only from the team that feel of being aggrieved by the decision of the referee or line judge.
Frankly speaking, I feel that the usage of VAR is too much now and it makes the game looks really bad unlike before when there was no VAR.
Technology should be used to make the game better and fairer but now it makes the game worse than before.
 
Lukaku is the unluckiest player this year at EURO because he has been offside 3 times, if he scores a goal then Lukaku will be the only player who scores the top score. It can't be helped, VAR has become the rule even though we have a slightly different opinion. Just 1 centimeter difference is still considered Offside, the rules are quite difficult and football in this era would be less exciting if the VAR rules were very strict. Belgium is happy to have won, but if you look at the points table, Group E is very tight where each team has 3 points. As a result, with these results, Belgium and Romania are still not safe from qualifying for the preliminary round.
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Today Germany should win their third game and be the best team in the group stage.
Germany may be cruising to victory today but it will not be an easy one because Switzerland need the win as much as Germany. It is a very dicey situation for Switzerland because if they lose by a wide margin against Germany and Scotland wins Hungary by a wide margin two, they will forfeit their automatic qualification spot to Scotland and hope to qualify as best losers which is not even a guarantee. Germany is the only team that is sure of qualification now and other things being equal, they will not lose to Switzerland this evening.
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Portugal didn't even have to play well. Turkey just helped them score goals very easily. Normally none of those goals would be conceded this easy by a team which know how to defend. Turkey are still lacking in defense too much.  Sad

Therefore I can't say Portugal were impressive for real. If Turkey improved their defending there would be a huge chance for them to get at least one point. Remember the Portugal - Czechia game. Czechia knew how to defend and Portugal had huge difficulties. They barely won by a goal in the stoppage time. Turkey have a much bigger player quality than Czechia. They wouldn't lose like Czechia did if they played decently.

Lastly this is on Montella... His player preferences were like a joke.

The biggest reason why Turkey lost was the wrong player choices. If you do not play the best player of the team, it is impossible to gain points in such a match. Turkey's squad is not a very good squad anyway. Moreover, when he is on the field without Arda Güler, he does not have much chance of scoring a goal anyway.
Defenders are terrible, Turkey doesn't have much of a chance with these defenders. This is the most important reason why they conceded 3 goals
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There is a Switzerland-Germany match tonight, Germany has guaranteed to advance from the group. A draw is enough for both teams in this match, if Switzerland wins, they can advance from the group as leaders.
Switzerland has also guaranteed to advance from the group. Let's see how the match ends.
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