UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 136.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 14, 2023, 10:40:16 AM

I believe yesterday night everybody to have lost money in the Europa League games as most of the favorites,Leverkussen and the biggest surprise United did not win their games.The teams who had bigger odds like Feyenoord and Juventus won their games with a lot of difficulty but they won.I think the reason is that people were making money on Champions League and so they kept betting on the favorites and so big surprises have happened.It will be very interesting in the return leg for Manchester United which is the main favorite for Europa League to see how they will react in this game,also Bayer Leverkussen will have a very difficult time to qualify but I think they will do and they will win.

yes, that's true, fortunately the defeat was covered by a victory in the Juventus match.
Manchester United's series was a big surprise, especially since they had a 2-goal lead in the first half, but it's a shame that the rotation of players made by Manchester United's coach in the second half didn't go smoothly so they had to concede 2 own goals.

while Juventus, despite experiencing difficulties, this 1 goal victory was meaningful enough for them to look into the second leg later.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 14, 2023, 09:09:24 AM

Different from AS Roma, Juventus, who are currently slump in the league, actually manage to win over Sporting in the 1st match of the UEL quarter-finals yesterday.
This has a good impact on Juventus, Allegri has only to think about how to maintain the performance of his players even though he will play in front of Sporting fans in the 2nd match next week.
This is Juventus' opportunity to prove that their decline in performance in the league does not make them slump in other competitions

The advantage of 1 goal is very vulnerable for them, especially when they will play a home match which will definitely be under a lot of pressure there. One more thing in the first leg, Sporting also played well. They can keep up with Juventus' game, even in terms of ball possession, Sporting has more possession than Juventus. This is a dangerous signal for Allegri's troops in the second leg later. Playing a total survival strategy will also be very dangerous for them in my opinion. So Allegri has to rack his brains so that his team will play even better in the match later.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on April 14, 2023, 10:40:45 AM

It wasn't unexpected for United to have a hard time. Sevilla won this cup more than anyone else and everyone already had doubts about this game as well. Yes, it is true that United is a much better team and a much better roster as well and I would go as far as say even better manager.

However, Sevilla is so used to being here that even on a season they are fighting against relegation in the league, they still play great here. I do not know what makes some teams like that, but in the end they are and there was doubt even before the game. Now that they lost some key players, I feel like the second game would be even harder and Sevilla may have even bigger chance to get a win and move further. Not saying that will be what's going to happen, but there is a chance now.

Sevilla have been doing great in the Europa league for a long time now. They might be playing bad in the LaLiga but once it comes to this competition, they start playing a good game. It seems the history of the club is bent on Europa league football or something. Manchester United were already ahead in the game and somehow I didn’t think Sevilla would raise their heads to fight for a comeback. The draw has made the return leg look harder now. Manchester United will be without their key players and I doubt the fringe players would step up their game in their absence.

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Quote from: skarais on April 14, 2023, 09:35:34 AM

I don't think Maguire should be held responsible for Sevilla's second goal yesterday, as well as Tyrell Malacia's first goal. Both defenders weren't entirely to blame for Manchester United's two own goals but it was a very tough game late in the second half as Sevilla continued to press Manchester United's defence.

Sevilla is basically a good team in the Europa League, but because their performance in the domestic league is not good, Manchester United is the favorite. But it was a disaster for Manchester United, especially in the second half. Instead of securing victory, Manchester United had to be willing to end the match with a score of 2-2.

Nothing to blame, i aggree with you, even the goal scored by Sevilla was considered an own goal, for me it was not an own goal just unlucky moments for MU defender. I know, Sevilla first goal came from Malacia's mistake, who was not focused on intercepting the ball, so the Sevilla players took advantage of it and hit Malacia's leg and an own goal occurred. Likewise in injury time for Sevilla second goal, a goal that occurred because a header ball from Sevilla player hit Maguire's head. For me this is not Maguire's fault but a header from a Sevilla player making difficult for Maguire to anticipate it. 2nd leg will be interesting, but Sevilla have a key to go to the semifinal while playing as host.

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It wasn't unexpected for United to have a hard time. Sevilla won this cup more than anyone else and everyone already had doubts about this game as well. Yes, it is true that United is a much better team and a much better roster as well and I would go as far as say even better manager.

However, Sevilla is so used to being here that even on a season they are fighting against relegation in the league, they still play great here. I do not know what makes some teams like that, but in the end they are and there was doubt even before the game. Now that they lost some key players, I feel like the second game would be even harder and Sevilla may have even bigger chance to get a win and move further. Not saying that will be what's going to happen, but there is a chance now.

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I believe yesterday night everybody to have lost money in the Europa League games as most of the favorites,Leverkussen and the biggest surprise United did not win their games.The teams who had bigger odds like Feyenoord and Juventus won their games with a lot of difficulty but they won.I think the reason is that people were making money on Champions League and so they kept betting on the favorites and so big surprises have happened.It will be very interesting in the return leg for Manchester United which is the main favorite for Europa League to see how they will react in this game,also Bayer Leverkussen will have a very difficult time to qualify but I think they will do and they will win.

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Quote from: yudi09 on April 14, 2023, 09:28:39 AM

Leg 2 Sevilla will be different because they already know the way Manchester United play.
The same situation is likely to happen again if Erik ten Hag returns to play Maguire when they travel to Sevilla headquarters.
If Licha can't strengthen Manchester United's defense in leg 2, another option might be that Lindelof will fill Licha's position.

I don't know why everybody is blaming Maguire for the second goal, he was just unlucky that the ball hit him and went into the net, even great defenders have scored at least 1 own goal in their career, i believe it is because Maguire is not in a good moment or form in his career right now, so people are taking that opportunity to troll him. Everyone in the United team is to be blamed for drawing yesterday, they thought the game was already over and they became complacent. Sevilla are so dangerous in the Europa league, so United have to be very careful in the second leg, or else they may be eliminated.

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Quote from: rendravolt on April 14, 2023, 10:00:53 AM

The match ended in a draw also experienced Leverkusen who hosted their opponent Gilloise with a score of 1-1. Actually, there are many who favor Leverkusen to win in this match, but from the start I was quite doubtful that Leverkusen could win this match and of course this is an advantage for Gilloise to be able to hold a draw at home to Leverkusen. The second leg will take place in a week and on this occasion Gilloise will be the host, even though Leverkusen's chances of winning this time are relatively small, I'm pretty sure they will be superior on aggregate in this match later.

This is one of surprising result besides Manchester United vs Sevilla and Leverkusen as favourite status but they were failed to utilized home match and actually Leverkusen has displayed aggressive performance in this match but Saint-Gilloise can performing well and they can able to managed their defense until end of first half and second half is more interesting because surprisingly Saint-Gilloise can able to leading the match from Boniface goal but luckly Leverkusen can avoiding to lose after Florian Wirtz can equalized the score

This result is very favorable for Saint-Gilloise because for the second leg they will be playing at home and we all know on round of 16 Saint-Gilloise can able to overcome another Bundesliga team Union Berlin before and Leverkusen should be aware to this record because Saint-Gilloise had good records while against Germany team this season

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The match ended in a draw also experienced Leverkusen who hosted their opponent Gilloise with a score of 1-1. Actually, there are many who favor Leverkusen to win in this match, but from the start I was quite doubtful that Leverkusen could win this match and of course this is an advantage for Gilloise to be able to hold a draw at home to Leverkusen. The second leg will take place in a week and on this occasion Gilloise will be the host, even though Leverkusen's chances of winning this time are relatively small, I'm pretty sure they will be superior on aggregate in this match later.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 14, 2023, 05:19:59 AM

In the end it's like the pinnacle of the best comedy for the match and of course Maguire's true performance for the current Ten Hag era he is very rarely given a chance and when the opportunity comes he immediately scores even in his own net lol.
Their strategy was not going very well, especially after several defenders were replaced who were having problems there.

The second leg will be very funny if he is still given the chance because this is like giving Sevilla an even bigger chance.

I don't think Maguire should be held responsible for Sevilla's second goal yesterday, as well as Tyrell Malacia's first goal. Both defenders weren't entirely to blame for Manchester United's two own goals but it was a very tough game late in the second half as Sevilla continued to press Manchester United's defence.

Sevilla is basically a good team in the Europa League, but because their performance in the domestic league is not good, Manchester United is the favorite. But it was a disaster for Manchester United, especially in the second half. Instead of securing victory, Manchester United had to be willing to end the match with a score of 2-2.

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Quote from: Polkeins on April 14, 2023, 06:39:31 AM

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It seems that long ago there was a joke that "Only Manchester can score four effective goals, the opponent will not score anything, but it will still be a draw. This time it is very suspicious draw. Yes, in the second half Manchester relaxed and the first auto-goal was generally understandable. The relaxation turned into trouble for the team, but the second goal, or rather Maguire's auto-goal is a masterpiece, a pity that in his own goal.
Of course I doubt that Manchester could play a rigged match, more likely the relaxation let down, but still lead by the middle of the first half 2-0, dominate the field and miss such an important victory is bad. So the team does not yet have the full stability as Manchester City, which can beat any opponent, without relaxation or underestimation.

It is clear, that what Manchester United is showing at this time is not something that Ten Hag expected. so it's natural, if United can't be said to have stability. next next season, if Ten Hag is given a lot of authority to bring in the players he needs. I'm sure United can be much stronger than they are showing at the moment.

Talking about the match vs Sevilla, it's a little funny, I didn't fully watch this match but in the first 30 minutes, The Red Devils played with very high pressing. and like I said, that Martial can't be expected to score. fortunately, he was able to provide one assist on Sabitzer. one more thing, that I really doubt Jadon Sancho.
But what I don't understand is why Ten Hag took Bruno out, Shancho should have been taken out and Eriksen replaced him, Ten Hag could rotate him, Bruno was good back on the wing, Eriksen partnered with Casemiro. fatally, Maquier entered in the 46th minute. as a result, two blunder goals were created by the United players themselves.

To be honest, I lost the bet on this fight. but after all, this is the uniqueness of football that is sometimes unexpected.

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It was just the luckiest night ever for Sevilla. They got really lucky in the previous stage as well but this was something else. Because Manchester United were dominant from the beginning to the end. They scored their goals very easily and they wasted a couple of big opportunities to get 3-0 ahead as well. One of them was so close by Antony which hit the post. This high pressure went on until the last moments of the match. But then some kind of a miracle happened for Sevilla. Somehow they started to get very lucky in the match.

Both of their goals were thanks to luck and it wouldn't be fair to claim that the case was the opposite. First their shot hit the defender and found the net. After that Maguire had a very unlucky moment as the ball hit his head and found the net again in the last moments of the match. But despite all of this I still think Manchester United can eliminate them one way or another.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 14, 2023, 05:19:59 AM

Quote from: yudi09 on April 14, 2023, 03:53:59 AM

lol.
It was really beyond our expectations that the captain and most expensive defender of Manchester United, Maguire owns a beautiful goal. Before long, Maguire's Twitter was a trending topic. Many memes appear starting from kneeling as a unique celebration.

Maybe Erik is very sure that a defensive strategy is the best solution to end the game at Old Trafford.
Yes. Do not assume that victory has been obtained if the quality of the players is not convincing.

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The second leg will be very funny if he is still given the chance because this is like giving Sevilla an even bigger chance.

Leg 2 Sevilla will be different because they already know the way Manchester United play.
The same situation is likely to happen again if Erik ten Hag returns to play Maguire when they travel to Sevilla headquarters.
If Licha can't strengthen Manchester United's defense in leg 2, another option might be that Lindelof will fill Licha's position.

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Quote from: yudi09 on April 14, 2023, 03:53:59 AM

lol.
It was really beyond our expectations that the captain and most expensive defender of Manchester United, Maguire owns a beautiful goal. Before long, Maguire's Twitter was a trending topic. Many memes appear starting from kneeling as a unique celebration.

Maybe Erik is very sure that a defensive strategy is the best solution to end the game at Old Trafford.
Yes. Do not assume that victory has been obtained if the quality of the players is not convincing.

... ...
Of course I doubt that Manchester could play a rigged match, more likely the relaxation let down, ... ...

It seems unlikely that Erik ten Hag gave Sevilla two late goals to draw as this is ten Hag's first season in England.
For us it's a good comedy from an H. Maguire after being replaced with Varane. lol

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Quote from: zuzie on April 14, 2023, 09:09:24 AM

Different from AS Roma, Juventus, who are currently slump in the league, actually manage to win over Sporting in the 1st match of the UEL quarter-finals yesterday.
This has a good impact on Juventus, Allegri has only to think about how to maintain the performance of his players even though he will play in front of Sporting fans in the 2nd match next week.
This is Juventus' opportunity to prove that their decline in performance in the league does not make them slump in other competitions

sporting outperformed Juventus and put in a display to be proud of, the played very well and had more attempts on goals than Juventus but in all it was the goal of Derrick Gatti that made the difference and gave Juve the lead.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 14, 2023, 05:19:59 AM

In the end it's like the pinnacle of the best comedy for the match and of course Maguire's true performance for the current Ten Hag era he is very rarely given a chance and when the opportunity comes he immediately scores even in his own net lol.
Their strategy was not going very well, especially after several defenders were replaced who were having problems there.

The second leg will be very funny if he is still given the chance because this is like giving Sevilla an even bigger chance.

Sevilla made a dramatic comeback thanks to two own goals from Tyrell Malacia and Harry Maguire. Manchester United were really unlucky in this match, apart from failing to secure victory, they had to play with 10 players for about 10 minutes of the remaining time of the match because their substitution slots had run out.
After being held to a draw by Sevilla at Old Trafford, Manchester United task is getting tougher ahead of the second leg at Sevilla headquarters next week. Manchester United had to fight to survive in the Europa League with a squad limping due to the hurricane of injuries and accumulation of cards experienced by their players.

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Quote from: boltz on April 14, 2023, 06:18:00 AM

Let the memes with Maguire begin! The dude really screwed the game last night and I think it's in vain to keep a player like him in a such high status team like United because no matter who coaches him , he is still letting down everyone from the team. Last night was no different and I think we might saw one of the last games of Maguire in United shirt also a reset in his career will do him well because overall he is not a bad defender.

So many reasons contributed to Manchester 2-2 draw with Sevilla the score line is bad enough leaving United facing a battle to secure the spot for the semi-final. Harry Maguire's own was not just the only reason for the draw the loss of Martinez was also a major concern as Varene had to be replaced at half also the tribble mistake from Tyrell malaria. so it was not just the fault of Harry alone United are now faced with a serious task ahead and it will take a lot of character for them to get through without Bruno, and Martinez it is going to be tough one for united

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Different from AS Roma, Juventus, who are currently slump in the league, actually manage to win over Sporting in the 1st match of the UEL quarter-finals yesterday.
This has a good impact on Juventus, Allegri has only to think about how to maintain the performance of his players even though he will play in front of Sporting fans in the 2nd match next week.
This is Juventus' opportunity to prove that their decline in performance in the league does not make them slump in other competitions

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Quote from: Lordhermes on April 14, 2023, 06:43:36 AM

Manchester United was just few minutes to win Sevilla for the first time in history, before Ten Tag brought flop Maguire into the game, everything changed. A lot of defending errors and poor control, the game was lost because of poor tactics from the coach. He made wrong changes, they might not survive the second leg in Spain. It's so sad, Maguire should just leave the team.

We can't just blame the performance of the players. because coaches should be able to assess players who are ready to play or not. Ten Hag forced his strategy, and it was a bad mistake. the defense became disorganized. and Man United had to accept results that were not optimal.
there is still one leg to go, just hope Ten Hag learns from his mistake. and improve the squad.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on April 14, 2023, 07:27:36 AM

I don't know what is really wrong with Harry Maguire, because every time he is on the field he always messes up the team's game. Maybe it's normal when a player scores an own goal, but the problem is that he often makes mistakes that are detrimental to his own team. And I don't know what was going through Erik Ten Hag's mind at that time so he changed strategy by including Harry Maguire.

Just try to tell you what's wrong with meguire. The wrong thing about him is seeing his team mates as opponent otherwise opponent as his teammates. If you were always watching his gameplay carefully and you would be able to see any blunders made by him in any game where he was playing with manchester united. Im so upset with meguire. He was clearly destroying the hope for people who put their choice into the manchester united. The problem is ten hag didn't have a good defender anymore other than him.
Ten hag had no choice to let him go in the game.

So many memes were coming up again after meguire was going back in action. I shall give him a lot of applauses for all of his parody when he was playing with manchester united. I meant meguire is always making so many people are laughing and mocking MU.
Meguire was actually different when he was playing in the international football or another club. I don't even know whether he was grudging to the united or something else.

Sabitzer has been trying so hard to help the team to win the game. How easy maciala and meguire were ruining all the efforts that already made by sabitzer.

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Quote from: Prestongold on April 14, 2023, 05:17:02 AM

Manchester United started on the bright side upfront with two solid goals if they had maintained the momentum with which they started I don't think Sevilla would have even close to getting shot on target the two-goal made them relax a bit and they felt they had control over the game. Sevilla has won this title and is seen as the best when it comes to Europa you don't relax when playing with such a club with a loss of focus I think they paid the bitter price going to Sevilla's home is not going to be an easy ride to victory for United

The two own goals were a real disaster. Sevilla should have lost the game, they have not played well and then something like this, unbelievable. One of the own gowl in injury time... how high is the probability that something like that can happen? In minute 92 H. Maguire gets the ball to the head and that because he is 1.94 meters tall... or because it is just unfortunate. The 3:0 almost happened in the 60 minute, that was very close, the ball went to the post. The return match is on 20 April, then the luck should be on the side of Manchester United.

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