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Quote from: Despairo on September 18, 2024, 10:18:52 AM

Quote from: MusaMohamed on September 17, 2024, 08:42:40 AM

They had several great seasons and usually were competitive enough to join top four or top six of Serie A. Some years ago, in 2020 - 2021 season they had an amazing journey in Champions League too. Atalanta are a competitive team and they are quite familiar with the air in Europe like Champions League and Europa League.

Atalanta is like Tottenham, a team that not enough to become a champion and at the same time, not that weak to be relegated.

However, Atalanta was able to qualify to the round of 16 because they're in weak group, there are Liverpool, them, Ajax and Midtjylland. At that time we all sure Liverpool and Atalanta will qualify. But in round of 16 they met one of strongest team, they even lose in their home.

Not an amazing journey I think.

I agree with you that they are not a very strong team, but not a very weak team either, they are in the middle and slightly better than the teams in the middle. Alatanta's success last season when they became champions in the European League, in my opinion, was also the result of their hard work but it was accompanied by luck, because they managed to become champions because they beat the teams that were very favored to become champions. Atalanta are now in the Champions League, I'm not too sure that they will be able to compete. Not because I underestimate them, but this is just my assessment when comparing them with other teams in the Champions League, although it is not impossible that they will be able to provide a big surprise.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on September 18, 2024, 04:17:22 AM

If Erik Ten Hag is able to successfully win the FA cup and Carabao Cup that is huge success for the club because as they say “one big journey begins with just a step”. If Erik Ten Hag is capable of achieving that he can be trusted with the task of achieving even more with time. Right now, the main focus should be reviving the team and maintaining consistency this season.

Eric Ten Hag isn't the best coach for Manchester United and not a bad one either. He might be able to maintain Manchester United in one of the spots dedicated for UEFA competitions or he can progress with the team in a side competition like FA Cup but definitely it will be hard for him and his team to win other competitions especially EPL.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on September 17, 2024, 08:42:40 AM

They had several great seasons and usually were competitive enough to join top four or top six of Serie A. Some years ago, in 2020 - 2021 season they had an amazing journey in Champions League too. Atalanta are a competitive team and they are quite familiar with the air in Europe like Champions League and Europa League.

Atalanta is like Tottenham, a team that not enough to become a champion and at the same time, not that weak to be relegated.

However, Atalanta was able to qualify to the round of 16 because they're in weak group, there are Liverpool, them, Ajax and Midtjylland. At that time we all sure Liverpool and Atalanta will qualify. But in round of 16 they met one of strongest team, they even lose in their home.

Not an amazing journey I think.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on September 15, 2024, 04:35:01 PM

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Even their coach doesn't believe the premiere league is something they can win this season so I don't think either if it's something they can be able to go for because of they could have it would start from their coach, now back to the Europa, they have their similar equals with which they can throw their weights, if they don't do the best they can of the Europa then they may literally finish this season without a trophy, this has been the bragging right of ten hag that he's been able to get a trophy every season despite his said performance, in fact he said in the last two seasons, after Manchester City, Manchester United is the second with the highest number of trophies in the premier league so he need to continue in that light and that's why winning the Europa is a must for him.

Ten Hag currently has a very heavy demand, he must continue to improve the condition of Man United despite the bad criticism that is spread. Everyone admits that Ten Hag actually has the desire and has tried his best to do the best. But sometimes there is something we don't know behind all these problems. Man United will definitely try their best in this European league to restore the trust of the fans and if they still fail without any trophies, maybe changing coaches is one of the best ways in the coming season.

Manchester United management had the chance to sack Ten hang and find a new coach but yet they retained Ten Hag, I guess they have their reason since Erik is not just the problem but the players as well. It’s so easy to say than putting effort, I could remember Manchester United promising a good season this time around but let’s hope for something good. If Manchester United fail to perform excellent this time fans might talk about Ten hag and it might lead to finding a new coach so it’s best Ten hag put more effort this time since he’s the target.

If Erik Ten Hag is able to successfully win the FA cup and Carabao Cup that is huge success for the club because as they say “one big journey begins with just a step”. If Erik Ten Hag is capable of achieving that he can be trusted with the task of achieving even more with time. Right now, the main focus should be reviving the team and maintaining consistency this season.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on September 17, 2024, 03:00:51 PM

Osimhen is a good player no doubt and Galatasaray is a lucky team right now but, I don’t expect Osimhen to do all the work load except the team don’t want to improve besides he is not so good in every angle. At least Osimhen is a helping hand with or without a quality player, my point here is they need to back Osimhen up for positive result because he might leave early depending on his contract.

If Osimhen makes Galatasaray a bridge to jump to another team one day, he must also be able to develop better in this Galatasaray team because other teams will not want to look at him if he doesn't perform better in the Galatasaray squad this season. In addition, Galatasaray who are also in the Europa League this season must also be able to play as well as possible and also fully support Osimhen in every match for a better achievement before Osimhen leaves for another team because I am also sure that Osimhen will not last too long in Galatasaray.

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If you look even more broadly, let alone Liverpool who have good potential at the beginning of last season in the Europa League which is very convincing can lose when dealing with Atalanta, Bayer Leverkusen only has a very good victory and in the gadang-gadang will be the winning of the Europa League can lose By Atalanta, basically indeed Atalanta has an extraordinary ability to get a victory last season, it has become the time for them to get the Europa League, but many of us seem not to accept that the winners are Atalanta, it is because they are not famous but can silence other teams .

So true, anything can happen to an underdog team can rise up certain teams, and the consistency of ingenuity is very expensive.

The European League can be said to be a big opportunity for Manchester United to improve on the failed Champions League tournament as well as to improve in the English Premier League, but how much they can use that opportunity is now at the center of discussion. Manchester United are favored by the number of teams that have qualified for the Europa League, but with Manchester United's recent performances, there are doubts that they will do well in the Europa League. In the Premier League competition we see them losing some easy matches and winning one match losing multiple matches. On the other hand their team manager is trying to play the team with the same strategy where they are always failing. Premier League and Europa League are two different tournaments so different strategies should be applied in both tournaments if Manchester United want to do well

With a note that Ten Hag can maximize this opportunity to rebuild his reputation that has been criticized by many people because Manchester United continues to decline, Manchester United needs to improve themselves more if they want to fix it in the Europa League, but I am very unsure if they will get a win if they continue like this, there are still many teams that have the opportunity to win, we know that in the English Premier League Man United is very bad at the moment, I highly doubt that this season they will not even bring home 1 trophy if they do not introspect.

If Manchester United's performance had changed, we might have expected better things to come under this manager. But we can see that Manchester United is the same as before and sometimes it seems that their performance has decreased even more. In that case, Manchester United has given their current manager the opportunity to improve but he is not able to take advantage of those opportunities and is taking Manchester United to a worse level. Manchester United cannot be expected to win the title in any tournament with the performance they are currently doing. Their far-fetched plan to win the English Premier League title is questionable whether they can finish between numbers one and five this season.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on September 17, 2024, 03:02:17 AM

Yes, we have seen this a lot in recent years. The teams that were considered favorites at the beginning of the season could not win the cup at the end of the season. In fact, while everyone was expecting Bayer Leverkusen to be champions in the final match last year, Atalanta defeated them and made them taste their only defeat of the year. They even beat them with a clear score of 3-0. That is why favorite teams can be eliminated in such tournaments. Tournaments need to be taken very seriously.

When it comes to tournaments like the European competitions where teams have to compete from different league to book a spot in the European competitions, I don’t look down on any team because they’ve already passed through a tough competition before coming out amongst the many teams to represent them in the European competition. For them to have qualified to that level, one should know that those teams can be able to prove their myth in those matches and become something else they don’t expect from them.

Any team that is looked down on when playing in competitions like this, will only give a surprise defeat to their opponent and by the time they want to show the same pressure and handle the team like every other team, it would have been too late to make any adjustments in the game that will be in their favor. Treating all teams the same is the best thing to do if you want to go far and prevail in tough competitions like this ones.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 17, 2024, 03:26:18 AM

So many easy games on paper during tonight and tomorrow night games as these are really inviting to put quite a few of them in a parlay and put a massive amount to them yet it is very dangerous to go this route. I think from last season experience that surprise happen in here massively and I would refrain from going the route in betting a lot of money for these games. Maybe I try all games of tonight with different goal options and put a decent amount hoping to hit a nice win, most people usually do win in Champions League games so I also to be one of them tonight.

Because the format applied is a league, where each team will try to be in the top eight and thus, the leading teams will maximize the victory with a big score. Unlike in the previous format when it was still in the group stage to qualify for the round of 16, in the old format each leading team was at least not so maximal to win because the match will also be played at home and away, but in this new format it is not.

Therefore, it does not seem surprising that in today's match some of the leading teams really maximized it by winning with a big score too. Therefore, I am sure that the Europa League that just willbe played next week will also be interesting. So yes, I think this new format is even more interesting,because each team will really maximize to be in the top eight as a requirement to qualify for the knockout phase later.

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I think Chelsea is clearly more promising for his career than Galatasaray. Despite Chelsea's lack of achievements recently, but they compete in one of the best leagues, and there Osimhen has the chance to show himself. Chelsea doesn't have a good striker and it seems like they are quite disappointed with Nicolas Jackson's performance so far, therefore Chelsea is poking Osimhen again.

I guess Osimhen will only stay for half a season at Galatasaray, and after that, he will most likely move to England (maybe Chelsea, because they are the only ones who might be willing to pay Osimhen's huge salary).

Well it may be like that, maybe Galatasaray is a bridge for the player , I think that many in Galatasaray are happy to have a player as good as him, as far as I am concerned this player is much more Effective than some and he already has the team , of course with the help of Osimhen I think this team will fly much more, that is what is really expected, however it is interesting to see now the games of Galatasaray that for me personally I was not very interested in seeing when that team played , now I want to see the difference with Osimhen.

Osimhen is a good player no doubt and Galatasaray is a lucky team right now but, I don’t expect Osimhen to do all the work load except the team don’t want to improve besides he is not so good in every angle. At least Osimhen is a helping hand with or without a quality player, my point here is they need to back Osimhen up for positive result because he might leave early depending on his contract.

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Quote from: punk.zink on September 13, 2024, 01:22:01 PM

I think Chelsea is clearly more promising for his career than Galatasaray. Despite Chelsea's lack of achievements recently, but they compete in one of the best leagues, and there Osimhen has the chance to show himself. Chelsea doesn't have a good striker and it seems like they are quite disappointed with Nicolas Jackson's performance so far, therefore Chelsea is poking Osimhen again.

I guess Osimhen will only stay for half a season at Galatasaray, and after that, he will most likely move to England (maybe Chelsea, because they are the only ones who might be willing to pay Osimhen's huge salary).

Well it may be like that, maybe Galatasaray is a bridge for the player , I think that many in Galatasaray are happy to have a player as good as him, as far as I am concerned this player is much more Effective than some and he already has the team , of course with the help of Osimhen I think this team will fly much more, that is what is really expected, however it is interesting to see now the games of Galatasaray that for me personally I was not very interested in seeing when that team played , now I want to see the difference with Osimhen.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 17, 2024, 02:56:30 AM

basically we will not be able to judge the performance of the team to compete in the Europa League based on their performance in the domestic League because team that performs well in the domestic League may not necessarily continue to perform well in Europa League competition and vice versa.
Honestly, for Manchester United fans, there are those who are satisfied with Manchester Uniter performance at the beginning of the season with 2 wins but there are also those who say that Manchester United performance is not so satisfying because the players in the two defeats have made several mistakes.
I myself still waiting for how Manchester United will develop later in the Europa League match, if they can complete 8 matches well and qualify from the play-off round then clearly that is good achievement, but if they fail and experience more lots defeats then I will not believe that they will be contender in the title race, after that, trust in Ten Hag performance will also slowly disappear.

If I didn't see wrong, Conference league still has six games though, don't they? While UCL and UEL went to 8 games for groups, conference seems like still six games but I could be wrong. In any case, this is the new format for UEFA and they did this so that teams could make more money, they are going to charge tv rights more and more, and eventually teams will get more and more money thanks to this.

Being at UCL group stages every single year would make any team super rich and would make them get better and better, it's very hard to be there, you have to be one of the best in your league, and for most it also means you need to qualify by beating some teams as well. This is why I think it's clear that we are going to end up with Europa being important path to get better and be at UCL whenever a team gets better.

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The revamped Europa League format takes inspiration from the Champions League, with top 8 teams advancing directly to the Round of 16. The competition is heating up, with powerhouses like Manchester United, Porto, Tottenham, and AS Roma vying for the title.

Not inspired by the Champions League, it's just that UEFA has implemented the same format for this major competition so not only UCL and UEL but the European Conference League also has the same format, with this new format clubs will play more matches to qualify for the last 16 and this is not easy they have to prepare themselves to stay fit to continue to compete in the Europa League.

Clubs like Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and Roma are indeed favorites in the Europa League but we also don't know what surprises will happen later, usually the Europa League is more difficult to predict, clubs that are favored at the beginning may not be able to perform consistently until the end.

Yes, we have seen this a lot in recent years. The teams that were considered favorites at the beginning of the season could not win the cup at the end of the season. In fact, while everyone was expecting Bayer Leverkusen to be champions in the final match last year, Atalanta defeated them and made them taste their only defeat of the year. They even beat them with a clear score of 3-0. That is why favorite teams can be eliminated in such tournaments. Tournaments need to be taken very seriously.

What happened last season in Europa League was a big surprise and that has made me come to conclusion that it is impossible to know which team will be able to win Europa this season. Atalanta showed their superiority over Leverkusen and that is what baffles me with all the clubs Leverkusen played and remained unbeaten but it wasn't so in the finals.

I don't know which club is capable of surprising us again this season but as time goes on, we will see that club because I don't think that United will be able to win this league but if they do, it will be a shock to me and Ten Hag will remain their coach for long.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 17, 2024, 03:26:18 AM

So many easy games on paper during tonight and tomorrow night games as these are really inviting to put quite a few of them in a parlay and put a massive amount to them yet it is very dangerous to go this route. I think from last season experience that surprise happen in here massively and I would refrain from going the route in betting a lot of money for these games. Maybe I try all games of tonight with different goal options and put a decent amount hoping to hit a nice win, most people usually do win in Champions League games so I also to be one of them tonight.

There are a lot of matches today and majority of them are very easy to predict especially the matches that falls under the champions League stage, and the first match I highlighted that seams to be a tough match will become very easy for one side to win, which is the match between Lille and Sporting CP, if you look the match from far you will think that Lille stance on a better chance in wining the match but the actual truth is that Sporting CP is far more impressive than them and the good thing is that for those who will bet on that match will be lucky because the both odds will be very high because is looking as if the two side is just the same, however Sporting CP has remained unbeaten on there Portuguese league.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 17, 2024, 08:32:06 AM

I think Leverkusen underestimated Atalanta because they think they never lose and they already have a guarantee to win Bundesliga, not to mention Atalanta is a nothing team. Not a team that people think will win Serie A and international tournaments too.

In the last season, Leverkusen had an amazing unbeatable season in Bundesliga and took the league trophy and you can say Leverkusen are stronger than Atalanta but it's wrong to say Atalanta is a nothing team.

They had several great seasons and usually were competitive enough to join top four or top six of Serie A. Some years ago, in 2020 - 2021 season they had an amazing journey in Champions League too. Atalanta are a competitive team and they are quite familiar with the air in Europe like Champions League and Europa League.

That defeat in Europa League final match is a big shock for Leverkusen from Atalanta but if they re-meet, Atalanta will again be able to challenge Leverkusen because they are quite balancing in quality.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on September 17, 2024, 03:02:17 AM

Yes, we have seen this a lot in recent years. The teams that were considered favorites at the beginning of the season could not win the cup at the end of the season. In fact, while everyone was expecting Bayer Leverkusen to be champions in the final match last year, Atalanta defeated them and made them taste their only defeat of the year. They even beat them with a clear score of 3-0. That is why favorite teams can be eliminated in such tournaments. Tournaments need to be taken very seriously.

I think Leverkusen underestimated Atalanta because they think they never lose and they already have a guarantee to win Bundesliga, not to mention Atalanta is a nothing team. Not a team that people think will win Serie A and international tournaments too.

In tournaments, I'm more convinced Manchester United is better than Tottenham because everyone know Tottenham is cursed team lol.

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So many easy games on paper during tonight and tomorrow night games as these are really inviting to put quite a few of them in a parlay and put a massive amount to them yet it is very dangerous to go this route.

But, this thread talk about Europa League man.

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Victor Osimhen is one of the best striker in current soccer world, and he deserves respect for his quality and skills as well but sadly due to some mess-up in Napoli we have problems for both parties which ended on wrong way as we have no top club jumps for buying and at the end he is now at the Galatasaray for 1 season loan deal most chances he will be complete this deal and then in 2025 we will have good end of his current era at the Napoli.

Now recently we are having some updates about his future as he is extended his contract with Napoli, and they cut-price tag which is good both parties now in coming season we can have some better response from few clubs about his possible transfer even currently many rumours are around about his winter possible transfer which is not clear but most chances now he will be complete his deal and then leave for any other better option.

In my opinion to deserve the title of being one of the best strikers in the world, the first thing you need to do as a striker is to perform on world class level for at least three consecutive seasons. Season 21/22 was pretty good for him, then 22/23 was amazing, then 23/24 was pretty good, but not close to the very top of strikers in the world. He is a great player, but you probably remember Balotelli. These players types sabotage themselves. If Osimhen didn't mess up, he would be playing for Real Madrid or so. But they get greedy, have bad managements, and all the kinds of problems that these guys have when they are not down to earth.

Haaland is a prime example for someone who isn't losing ground under his feet because he lives his dream and wants to improve every single day. I think Osimhen did very well and then at some point he wanted too much. Now he ended up playing for Galatasaray Istanbul. Can you imagine that that would ever happen to Haaland because of stupid decisions? No, it wouldn't and that shows how they are different.

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So many easy games on paper during tonight and tomorrow night games as these are really inviting to put quite a few of them in a parlay and put a massive amount to them yet it is very dangerous to go this route. I think from last season experience that surprise happen in here massively and I would refrain from going the route in betting a lot of money for these games. Maybe I try all games of tonight with different goal options and put a decent amount hoping to hit a nice win, most people usually do win in Champions League games so I also to be one of them tonight.

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The revamped Europa League format takes inspiration from the Champions League, with top 8 teams advancing directly to the Round of 16. The competition is heating up, with powerhouses like Manchester United, Porto, Tottenham, and AS Roma vying for the title.

Not inspired by the Champions League, it's just that UEFA has implemented the same format for this major competition so not only UCL and UEL but the European Conference League also has the same format, with this new format clubs will play more matches to qualify for the last 16 and this is not easy they have to prepare themselves to stay fit to continue to compete in the Europa League.

Clubs like Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and Roma are indeed favorites in the Europa League but we also don't know what surprises will happen later, usually the Europa League is more difficult to predict, clubs that are favored at the beginning may not be able to perform consistently until the end.

Yes, we have seen this a lot in recent years. The teams that were considered favorites at the beginning of the season could not win the cup at the end of the season. In fact, while everyone was expecting Bayer Leverkusen to be champions in the final match last year, Atalanta defeated them and made them taste their only defeat of the year. They even beat them with a clear score of 3-0. That is why favorite teams can be eliminated in such tournaments. Tournaments need to be taken very seriously.

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After Manchester United's convincing win in their league game against Southampton over the weekend, I saw a some fans of the club who were initially demanding the sack of Erik ten Hag begin to say so many good things about the team and why ten Hag can still improve the team in no distant time.
That's been the kind of confusing and contradicting remarks the Dutchman have left with them since he became the club manager Go on a losing streak, win when the ovation is very low and regain the support of the club fans again.
Personally, I don't consider Manchester United a strong contender for the UEFA Europa League trophy this season and I don't think the current manager of the club have what it takes to prove me wrong.

What every fans want is to see their club in progress and not declining in form. If goh observed in the beginning of the season when Ten Hag won his first game, the fans gained confidence in him thinking that he has really worked on the team bug after that winning almost bevame a problem for United and that made the fans worried that Ten Hag is not doing his job as a coach. This waa one of the reason why they wanted him to be fired because there's no evidence to prove that he is building a team to become champions tomorrow.

But basically we will not be able to judge the performance of the team to compete in the Europa League based on their performance in the domestic League because team that performs well in the domestic League may not necessarily continue to perform well in Europa League competition and vice versa.
Honestly, for Manchester United fans, there are those who are satisfied with Manchester Uniter performance at the beginning of the season with 2 wins but there are also those who say that Manchester United performance is not so satisfying because the players in the two defeats have made several mistakes.
I myself still waiting for how Manchester United will develop later in the Europa League match, if they can complete 8 matches well and qualify from the play-off round then clearly that is good achievement, but if they fail and experience more lots defeats then I will not believe that they will be contender in the title race, after that, trust in Ten Hag performance will also slowly disappear.

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The revamped Europa League format takes inspiration from the Champions League, with top 8 teams advancing directly to the Round of 16. The competition is heating up, with powerhouses like Manchester United, Porto, Tottenham, and AS Roma vying for the title.

Not inspired by the Champions League, it's just that UEFA has implemented the same format for this major competition so not only UCL and UEL but the European Conference League also has the same format, with this new format clubs will play more matches to qualify for the last 16 and this is not easy they have to prepare themselves to stay fit to continue to compete in the Europa League.

Clubs like Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and Roma are indeed favorites in the Europa League but we also don't know what surprises will happen later, usually the Europa League is more difficult to predict, clubs that are favored at the beginning may not be able to perform consistently until the end.

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