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Quote from: Lidger on September 14, 2024, 10:33:47 AM

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Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League.

But, Liverpool lose against the champion aka Atalanta lol, so technically it's not that surprising Liverpool lose, although we were surprised at that time.

This time it seems there are not many strong teams in Europa League, Roma without Mourinho is nothing, Real Sociedad perform bad recently, only Porto, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are likely become an underdog.

Even though Manchester United lose two times in Premier League, but you shouldn't forget if they lose against Brighton and Liverpool, both of them are strong.

Liverpool were beaten last season but not in the semi-final or final but much earlier. Liverpool are the team they lost to in the quarter-finals of the last match but eventually won the Europa League. This season, Manchester United has qualified for the European League, but there is no chance to consider Manchester United as favorites this season. With the way Manchester United are performing, they can easily lose to other opponents such as Roma and Brighton. The new season has not yet started but Manchester United should be alert in advance so that they can compete well with all these teams and they can write their name in the list of favorite teams.

Liverpool defeat last season in the Europa League was obviously something surprising because from the beginning of the season they were the favourites to win the Europa League, but when Liverpool were on the right track with an impressive win in the Premier League but Atlanta became a nightmare for Klopp squad at that time, so that's what makes me think that a team that plays well in the league will not necessarily be able to perform well in the Europa League and vice versa.
Manchester United this season is in inconsistent form in the league but it should not be for us to get rid of them as the favorite team in the Europa League later, because after all this time every team playing in Europe often has a very big ambition to win the championship trophy and maybe that is also the current ambition of Ten Hag to restore the trust of Manchester United fans in him.

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Quote from: hyudien on September 13, 2024, 09:31:21 PM

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Liverpool could not perform well last season which made them helpless to be defeated by Aalanta, but at that time Atalanta was indeed in very good condition to become champions, because of that, maybe Klopp is no longer with Liverpool today.
Roma indeed can't do anything, it seems like even in the Seria league they don't get a good game, and tend to experience a decline after Maurinho left.
But we haven't seen the entire match meeting in the League now, because the Underdog is also still in question, we only speculate from what we see in their respective domestic league matches.

Last season Liverpool lost their balance towards the end of the season, and it was right around the time they were going to face Atalanta. If I remember correctly, before they faced Atalanta they also experienced a decline in performance and even that continued until they also lost their position in the competition for the Premier League title. At first they were quite promising, but we never know what a team will experience, and that's what Liverpool experienced last season, right towards the end of the season. Atalanta is a team that has a chance, but when compared to Liverpool, their chances are actually not greater than what Liverpool has. But that's football, sometimes superiority on paper is not a guarantee for a team.

If you look even more broadly, let alone Liverpool who have good potential at the beginning of last season in the Europa League which is very convincing can lose when dealing with Atalanta, Bayer Leverkusen only has a very good victory and in the gadang-gadang will be the winning of the Europa League can lose By Atalanta, basically indeed Atalanta has an extraordinary ability to get a victory last season, it has become the time for them to get the Europa League, but many of us seem not to accept that the winners are Atalanta, it is because they are not famous but can silence other teams .

So true, anything can happen to an underdog team can rise up certain teams, and the consistency of ingenuity is very expensive.

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There are still 11 more days to go for the first matches on Week 1. I wonder why it is even starting a week later than the Champions League. Huh

The number of total matches in league phase is the same as the CL in fact.

I'm going to be really curious about what the Turkish teams present here will do in this phase. It must have been a very long time since I saw 3 of them in the same European competition. Grin

Fenerbahçe have the most difficult draw while Galatasaray have the easiest. But still the performances will make difference. I like Osimhen transfer the most for Galatasaray. I can't wait to watch him as a goal machine!

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Quote from: Despairo on September 13, 2024, 08:42:27 AM

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Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League.

But, Liverpool lose against the champion aka Atalanta lol, so technically it's not that surprising Liverpool lose, although we were surprised at that time.

This time it seems there are not many strong teams in Europa League, Roma without Mourinho is nothing, Real Sociedad perform bad recently, only Porto, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are likely become an underdog.

Even though Manchester United lose two times in Premier League, but you shouldn't forget if they lose against Brighton and Liverpool, both of them are strong.

Liverpool were beaten last season but not in the semi-final or final but much earlier. Liverpool are the team they lost to in the quarter-finals of the last match but eventually won the Europa League. This season, Manchester United has qualified for the European League, but there is no chance to consider Manchester United as favorites this season. With the way Manchester United are performing, they can easily lose to other opponents such as Roma and Brighton. The new season has not yet started but Manchester United should be alert in advance so that they can compete well with all these teams and they can write their name in the list of favorite teams.

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Quote from: Renampun on September 13, 2024, 11:34:38 PM

the european league has a different atmosphere from the premier league so I don't predict tottenham and man utd who will be the champions of the european league this season, teams from the italian league and also the spanish league have a big chance to shift the dominance that will likely be shown by man utd and tottenham.

sociedad, lazio, roma, will definitely be a big obstacle for man utd and tottenham, all three remain the favorites to win the european league this season apart from man utd and tottenham (just a personal opinion).

Manchester United and Tottenham are big teams, I agree with that. However, they are in good shape, especially Manchester United who are still in a bad situation in my opinion. Tottenham is a team that can put pressure on, but they are unable to raise their level to become a team that can become champions. I can see in the Premier League, their position can hardly be better from season to season.
The Europa League also provides opportunities for teams from other top European leagues, last season alone the team that managed to become champions was a team from Serie A, namely Atalanta. Even though at the beginning they were not the main favorites, but in the Europa League it is difficult to predict because the advantage on paper is not a guarantee for them to win a title.

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Quote from: mammusu on September 14, 2024, 02:24:17 AM

The different atmosphere in the European league makes it possible for us to see the intense competition taking place in the European league so far, Manchester United and Tottenham are two big teams that this season will try their luck in the European league, but like what happening in the European league previously, so far the big teams are not guaranteed to be able to win the European League trophy, Last season we could see how Liverpool, Milan, Roma and Leverkusen were favorites from the start to win the championship trophy in end season, but in fact Atlanta was able to surprise us with their ability to destroy these big teams and win the championship trophy in the end, the ambition that every team that plays in the European league has is very big regardless of whether the team is weak or not in terms of team quality so far, based on existing experience, I personally don't see it either tottenham, especially Manchester united can win the European League trophy this season because both teams are still in poor form.

The poor performance in the domestic league as seen in Tottenham and Manchester United is also not a special reference for them to perform badly here because both teams could perform better in the European League this season even though they are not good enough in the domestic league this season. I actually quite agree with the examples and descriptions that you gave of Atalanta and several other teams from last season, but for this season the conditions in the Europa League will also be very different considering the new format that every team that enters the Europa League this season must go through.

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Quote from: Renampun on September 13, 2024, 11:34:38 PM

Quote from: Lidger on September 13, 2024, 07:37:55 AM

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League. Manchester United have failed to perform well in most of the matches they have played in the recent season. If they perform the same in the Europa League tournament as they have done in a few league matches, they won't be able to go far with this performance. Still, since there is still time to plan, they should plan and try to move forward by performing well. The two teams that performed well last season are not in this season's Europa League, so if they can perform a little better, they will have a chance.

the european league has a different atmosphere from the premier league so I don't predict tottenham and man utd who will be the champions of the european league this season, teams from the italian league and also the spanish league have a big chance to shift the dominance that will likely be shown by man utd and tottenham.

sociedad, lazio, roma, will definitely be a big obstacle for man utd and tottenham, all three remain the favorites to win the european league this season apart from man utd and tottenham (just a personal opinion).

The different atmosphere in the European league makes it possible for us to see the intense competition taking place in the European league so far, Manchester United and Tottenham are two big teams that this season will try their luck in the European league, but like what happening in the European league previously, so far the big teams are not guaranteed to be able to win the European League trophy, Last season we could see how Liverpool, Milan, Roma and Leverkusen were favorites from the start to win the championship trophy in end season, but in fact Atlanta was able to surprise us with their ability to destroy these big teams and win the championship trophy in the end, the ambition that every team that plays in the European league has is very big regardless of whether the team is weak or not in terms of team quality so far, based on existing experience, I personally don't see it either tottenham, especially Manchester united can win the European League trophy this season because both teams are still in poor form.

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Quote from: Lidger on September 13, 2024, 07:37:55 AM

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League. Manchester United have failed to perform well in most of the matches they have played in the recent season. If they perform the same in the Europa League tournament as they have done in a few league matches, they won't be able to go far with this performance. Still, since there is still time to plan, they should plan and try to move forward by performing well. The two teams that performed well last season are not in this season's Europa League, so if they can perform a little better, they will have a chance.

the european league has a different atmosphere from the premier league so I don't predict tottenham and man utd who will be the champions of the european league this season, teams from the italian league and also the spanish league have a big chance to shift the dominance that will likely be shown by man utd and tottenham.

sociedad, lazio, roma, will definitely be a big obstacle for man utd and tottenham, all three remain the favorites to win the european league this season apart from man utd and tottenham (just a personal opinion).

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Quote from: hyudien on September 13, 2024, 09:31:21 PM

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Liverpool could not perform well last season which made them helpless to be defeated by Aalanta, but at that time Atalanta was indeed in very good condition to become champions, because of that, maybe Klopp is no longer with Liverpool today.
Roma indeed can't do anything, it seems like even in the Seria league they don't get a good game, and tend to experience a decline after Maurinho left.
But we haven't seen the entire match meeting in the League now, because the Underdog is also still in question, we only speculate from what we see in their respective domestic league matches.

Last season Liverpool lost their balance towards the end of the season, and it was right around the time they were going to face Atalanta. If I remember correctly, before they faced Atalanta they also experienced a decline in performance and even that continued until they also lost their position in the competition for the Premier League title. At first they were quite promising, but we never know what a team will experience, and that's what Liverpool experienced last season, right towards the end of the season. Atalanta is a team that has a chance, but when compared to Liverpool, their chances are actually not greater than what Liverpool has. But that's football, sometimes superiority on paper is not a guarantee for a team.

What you said is right because I also witnessed Liverpool's decline last season in the Premier League which caused them to weaken in the Europa League too even though I thought Liverpool wanted to focus more on the Europa League to get the trophy here because they looked the strongest among the other contestants but it turned out I was wrong they focused on all competitions to win both trophies because they were equally important, but unfortunately Liverpool could not maintain their consistency and if I'm not mistaken after Jurgen Kloop made his statement that he wanted to leave at the end of last season that might be one of the reasons Liverpool's performance was not optimal and the players felt they had lost the father figure who had guided them for almost 10 years.
But now they are not playing in the Europa League and it seems they are starting to find chemistry with their new coach.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 12, 2024, 04:15:16 PM

Here is the schedule for Galatasaray:

We are the luckiest Turkish team among the ones joined the Europa League. Grin

Here I can call Tottenham as a huge threat because they are even favoured for the trophy the most. Even though we are playing home against them, we still look likely to lose to them. But no problem at all about that. Because the rest of the draw is pretty good anyway.

Ajax would be another team to compete hard against us but we should be able to show our strength easier to the remaining ones. If we can't collect so many points in this fixture then we had better quit already. Tongue

But you for got to add that if Dynamo could be a potential threat like Totenham and Ajax. And remember that we will meet two scandinavian teams, they're very difficult to beat. Also, i can't even consider playing an away game against Nordic team such as Malmo is gonna be easy game for us.

The most important rules is that do not underestimate any team. In european competitions are so hard to predict, and this even much harder compared to the UCL.

Our UCL qualifier performance was terrible. Given our football, I can't say we're lucky to have those fixtures.

We must be working even harder to improve our performance.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on September 13, 2024, 02:27:04 PM

Liverpool could not perform well last season which made them helpless to be defeated by Aalanta, but at that time Atalanta was indeed in very good condition to become champions, because of that, maybe Klopp is no longer with Liverpool today.
Roma indeed can't do anything, it seems like even in the Seria league they don't get a good game, and tend to experience a decline after Maurinho left.
But we haven't seen the entire match meeting in the League now, because the Underdog is also still in question, we only speculate from what we see in their respective domestic league matches.

Last season Liverpool lost their balance towards the end of the season, and it was right around the time they were going to face Atalanta. If I remember correctly, before they faced Atalanta they also experienced a decline in performance and even that continued until they also lost their position in the competition for the Premier League title. At first they were quite promising, but we never know what a team will experience, and that's what Liverpool experienced last season, right towards the end of the season. Atalanta is a team that has a chance, but when compared to Liverpool, their chances are actually not greater than what Liverpool has. But that's football, sometimes superiority on paper is not a guarantee for a team.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 13, 2024, 08:42:27 AM

Quote from: Lidger on September 13, 2024, 07:37:55 AM

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League.

But, Liverpool lose against the champion aka Atalanta lol, so technically it's not that surprising Liverpool lose, although we were surprised at that time.

This time it seems there are not many strong teams in Europa League, Roma without Mourinho is nothing, Real Sociedad perform bad recently, only Porto, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are likely become an underdog.

Even though Manchester United lose two times in Premier League, but you shouldn't forget if they lose against Brighton and Liverpool, both of them are strong.

I understand what you are looking at when it vomes go winning Europa cup this season. It is true that there are few strong clubs in Europa this season but I don't think that United stands the chance of winning the league because no one can say what their performance in future will look like.

Any competition is always being won by the strongest team and Manchester united needs to prove that they are strong and capable of winning the league before I will be convinced that ot is possible for them to win it.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 13, 2024, 08:42:27 AM

Quote from: Lidger on September 13, 2024, 07:37:55 AM

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League.

But, Liverpool lose against the champion aka Atalanta lol, so technically it's not that surprising Liverpool lose, although we were surprised at that time.

This time it seems there are not many strong teams in Europa League, Roma without Mourinho is nothing, Real Sociedad perform bad recently, only Porto, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are likely become an underdog.

Even though Manchester United lose two times in Premier League, but you shouldn't forget if they lose against Brighton and Liverpool, both of them are strong.

Liverpool could not perform well last season which made them helpless to be defeated by Aalanta, but at that time Atalanta was indeed in very good condition to become champions, because of that, maybe Klopp is no longer with Liverpool today.
Roma indeed can't do anything, it seems like even in the Seria league they don't get a good game, and tend to experience a decline after Maurinho left.
But we haven't seen the entire match meeting in the League now, because the Underdog is also still in question, we only speculate from what we see in their respective domestic league matches.

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The thing about Osimhen and Chelsea wasn't just salary, it was also the fact that Napoli wanted 100+Lukaku for that deal, and Chelsea didn't accept that. Sure Osimhen has some seriously big requests, which I am sure lower by now after realizing he can't get what he wants, but it's clear that we are not going to see Osimhen at Galatasaray if Chelsea offered that much money when requested.

Osimhen and Napoli both overplayed their hands, and now they are in trouble, this summer (or even maybe in January) the team that pays 75 will get Osimhen easily, it is not going to be that hard, and I think it will definitely benefit both sides to be done with this. Chelsea still looking at Osimhen, they just want a bit cheaper salary, with 75 million they are definitely fine with it, plus they sold Lukaku who they did not want, so it is more like 40 million transfer. I think it will happen, either in January or probably in the Summer, and he can fit Chelsea very well right now.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 13, 2024, 01:07:04 PM

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Osimhen have too much love for Napoli that’s even when Chelsea brings request that they want to signing him to their team he was not bothered, and that’s even Napoli was show not accept the their request because they want victor Osimhem to remain and continue play for the club; because they seen him as a great player.

Well, with respect to Osimhen with Napoli, I understand what he feels It is the team under which he won a Serie A and it is impossible for him not to feel attached to the club. He experienced that joy there. I imagine he would not want to leave, but the future of a player has to be something that he always has to do and try to forge. That is why I believe that Galatasaray is where he will have great success, here and wherever it may be I do not know if Chelsea would be the best option for him I would like to see him at Madrid, but they have not said anything However, I have seen that Madrid have Mbappé and he is Enough for now.

I think Chelsea is clearly more promising for his career than Galatasaray. Despite Chelsea's lack of achievements recently, but they compete in one of the best leagues, and there Osimhen has the chance to show himself. Chelsea doesn't have a good striker and it seems like they are quite disappointed with Nicolas Jackson's performance so far, therefore Chelsea is poking Osimhen again.

I guess Osimhen will only stay for half a season at Galatasaray, and after that, he will most likely move to England (maybe Chelsea, because they are the only ones who might be willing to pay Osimhen's huge salary).

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Quote from: AYOBA on September 12, 2024, 02:34:07 PM

Osimhen have too much love for Napoli that’s even when Chelsea brings request that they want to signing him to their team he was not bothered, and that’s even Napoli was show not accept the their request because they want victor Osimhem to remain and continue play for the club; because they seen him as a great player.

Well, with respect to Osimhen with Napoli, I understand what he feels It is the team under which he won a Serie A and it is impossible for him not to feel attached to the club. He experienced that joy there. I imagine he would not want to leave, but the future of a player has to be something that he always has to do and try to forge. That is why I believe that Galatasaray is where he will have great success, here and wherever it may be I do not know if Chelsea would be the best option for him I would like to see him at Madrid, but they have not said anything However, I have seen that Madrid have Mbappé and he is Enough for now.

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Quote from: Despairo on September 13, 2024, 08:42:27 AM

Quote from: Lidger on September 13, 2024, 07:37:55 AM

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League.

But, Liverpool lose against the champion aka Atalanta lol, so technically it's not that surprising Liverpool lose, although we were surprised at that time.

This time it seems there are not many strong teams in Europa League, Roma without Mourinho is nothing, Real Sociedad perform bad recently, only Porto, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are likely become an underdog.

Even though Manchester United lose two times in Premier League, but you shouldn't forget if they lose against Brighton and Liverpool, both of them are strong.

There will always be surprises in the Europa League and in fact this happens almost every season in the Europa League. Because the clubs that have a high percentage of becoming champions in fact they can't answer it very well, even Sevilla is the club that has won the title most often here, even though their performance in La Liga is not that good. It wasn't just Liverpool that surprised us last season, but Leverkusen also surprised us with their defeat in the Europa League final. because they were undefeated before meeting Atalanta in the final, and Atalanta became the club that managed to become the only club that could give them defeat last season. I also hope that this season there will be another big surprise.

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Quote from: Lidger on September 13, 2024, 07:37:55 AM

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League.

But, Liverpool lose against the champion aka Atalanta lol, so technically it's not that surprising Liverpool lose, although we were surprised at that time.

This time it seems there are not many strong teams in Europa League, Roma without Mourinho is nothing, Real Sociedad perform bad recently, only Porto, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are likely become an underdog.

Even though Manchester United lose two times in Premier League, but you shouldn't forget if they lose against Brighton and Liverpool, both of them are strong.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on September 12, 2024, 06:01:31 PM

Victor Osimhen had other intentions we clearly don’t know or the contract with Chelsea never suit his personality. Victor osimhen going for Galatasaray shows he will not stay long even if he didn’t make any sign we all know he’ll need a better team for more competition also as a young player he need more support. I’m not saying Galatasaray can’t support but, compared with other teams definitely Victor Osimhen needs something more better that can help shape his football experience more and I think Chelsea is not in a better position currently.

Actually Victor Osimhen could be more suitable to be in the Premier League even though it is not a team like Chelsea, but the problem is that there are no teams from the Premier League who want to take him so he has to dock at Galatasaray and in general it is also not better for him because he has to be in the Turkish League which in terms of competitiveness is still very far from the Premier League. But Osimhen must continue his career at his current age so that he has the opportunity to move back to the team he likes after his contract ends with Galatasaray.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on September 12, 2024, 10:27:34 AM

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Although Manchester United and Tottenham are the two top Premier League teams which playing in the Europa League this season, but I personally am not at all sure for them to win the trophy. Because I still make a benchmark for last season about Liverpool because anyway, when Liverpool became a very favorite team also that Liverpool was still in the title race in the Premier League standings but Liverpool still failed in the Europa League in last season.

I don't think either of Manchester United or Tottenham are among the favourites to win the Europa League. They struggle with average teams how are they going to do when they face tough opponents? Manchester faced Liverpool at home and got slapped 3 goals without reply, how would it have been if they had been away at Anfield that day?
Tottenham have not been able to win Leicester City and Newcastle this season, I don't see them as a team that can go all the way in The Europa.

When people mention the top teams in the Europa, they include Manchester United because they're a big team, but based on current form, there are at least 5 clubs way better than Manchester United.
The good thing about the Europa League is that the winner is mostly unpredictable. It's not like the Champions League where you can mention one of the top 5 teams and have a 95% chance of getting the winner.

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League. Manchester United have failed to perform well in most of the matches they have played in the recent season. If they perform the same in the Europa League tournament as they have done in a few league matches, they won't be able to go far with this performance. Still, since there is still time to plan, they should plan and try to move forward by performing well. The two teams that performed well last season are not in this season's Europa League, so if they can perform a little better, they will have a chance.

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