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Quote from: mammusu on October 25, 2024, 03:18:22 AM

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Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

Manchester seems to has been really very blind in entrusting ten hag as a coach, even the great trust they currently give to ten hag only produces disappointment that they seem to be forced to accept, in the league they continue to slump and now have to be willing to be outside from top 10, after consecutive negative results in the league indeed ten hag was finally able to bring Manchester United back to victory after defeating Brentford, But when the fans hopes began to emerge to see victory again, Ten Hag again made a ridiculous experiment in the match against Fenerbache in the Europ League Grin

, the 1-1 draw they got again and made them even more immersed in the current Europa League standings, to be honest, I don't know what was the reference for ten to play Mazraoui as AM in the match, even though he does have more ability to play in defense Grin

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Ten Hag has been received a lot of criticism because he was attempts to playing Mazraoui as attacking midfielder this because Mazraoui real position is wingback and recently Ten Hag has been give his statement about this because he said Mazraoui has good ability to playing attacking so that's why Ten Hag trying to playing Mazraoui as a midfielder and this experiment is really messed up because Manchester United performing poorly

I think Manchester United is lucky because they didn't lost from Fenerbahce and do not forget too about Onana because he did double saves in this match and Manchester United can avoid defeat however you must be remember that this season is not the first time for Ten Hag did an experiment because at the beginning of season Ten Hag has attempts to playing Bruno Fernandes as a striker and this experiment too didn't rull well

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 25, 2024, 05:05:14 AM

Mourinho got a red card last night. I think he might be the person with the most red cards, along with Sergio Ramos. Grin

I believe that Mourinho is now getting red cards on purpose. Yesterday, I thought Fenerbahçe played well and deserved to win, but they were unlucky and left the field with just 1 point. With this draw, Manchester United has now drawn all 3 of their matches in the UEFA Europa League.

We are already familiar with this behavior of Jose Mourinho. He probably can't keep his anxiety under control. This is why we often see referees showing red cards to Mourinho.

However, his performance at Fenerbahçe was very good against Manchester United. But they were unlucky. So the match was drawn 1-1. Despite performing well, Mourinho failed to win at Fenerbahçe. Manchester United team is not able to perform well in Premier League as well as in Europe League. United have yet to win a single match in the Europa League. On the other hand, Manchester United is in the 12th position of the Premier League points table. It's a mystery why Manchester United management haven't sacked Ten Hag yet.

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Mourinho got a red card last night. I think he might be the person with the most red cards, along with Sergio Ramos. Grin

I believe that Mourinho is now getting red cards on purpose. Yesterday, I thought Fenerbahçe played well and deserved to win, but they were unlucky and left the field with just 1 point. With this draw, Manchester United has now drawn all 3 of their matches in the UEFA Europa League.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on October 25, 2024, 03:15:07 AM

Manchester United is not going anywhere in this Europa League I have said it before the Europa League should start that Manchester United is not going anywhere in the league because their performance was very poor and even in the Premier League will end up as a relegation team, as far as Erik ten Hag is Manchester united coach nothing will change from the team because he is a coach with no experience, I have not seen a coach with Poor experience like Erik ten Hag and if Manchester united did not sack him before the end of the league they will end up in relegation position.

The way Manchester united is sharing points with opponents teams in this Europa league is as if they are donating blood. Imagine three points in three Europa games for the whole Manchester united. They have scored a total of five goals and also conceded five goals. It seems they are comfortable and contented with the draw results because they're not playing as if they intend to win it in the first place. Ten Hang looks confused and out of ideas right now.

An observant couch will not watch Garnacho play full time at the moment because he always get lost at some point but Ten Hang is not paying attention to it. I don't even know why he brought in Casemiro when he can substitute Zirkzee and Garnacho with Højlund and Amad respectively. He's always used to unnecessary substitutions that disorganized the game more.

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Quote from: MK-74 on October 25, 2024, 03:01:10 AM

Fenerbahçe played well in the first half, they could have been better in the second half but it wasn't.
1 point was good for Fenerbahçe. One of their remaining 5 games could be difficult, they can get a win from the others.

For supporters of Manchester United, this draw is very good even though they want Eriksen's goal not to be replied by En-Nesyri.
A 1-1 draw is actually not a good result if the assessment is that Manchester United are not in good performance. They should not share points, but get full points.
Onana performed well which made some important rescue. Many betting failed.

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Quote from: MK-74 on October 25, 2024, 03:01:10 AM

Fenerbahçe played well in the first half, they could have been better in the second half but it wasn't.
1 point was good for Fenerbahçe. One of their remaining 5 games could be difficult, they can get a win from the others.

I thought Fenerbahçe would be able to get 3 points from the match. But the match ended in a 1-1 draw. I wouldn't say that Fenerbahçe played badly. Fenerbahçe's performance was very good. But even then Fenerbahçe failed to get 3 points.

Manchester United's performance was poor in this match as usual. In the 15th minute of the match, Eriksen's goal gave Manchester United the lead. After taking the lead, Manchester United looked to keep their defense tight. And they were quite successful in the first half. In the first half, Fenerbahçe failed to score despite several strong attacks. However, Fenerbahçe equalized the match by scoring at the beginning of the second half.

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AS Roma are not is a good form this season, we all know that, even the game that there were able to win today if not for that opportunity of that penalty in the first half I don’t think they will be able to achieve this 3 points that they got today. It not funny anymore, they have to focus on there performance because there don’t still have any direction on changing it or putting more effort in their performance both in Serie A and Europa league because there are left far more behind. If they will force more I think they will be able to even do something tangible these season or they will just end up like last season or even more poorer in performance. So they have to act fast.

Dynamo Kyiv was not a strong opponent. Even then, I could not be satisfied with the performance of Roma's players. Roma should have performed better. Despite having 61% ball possession, Roma could not score any more goals. The only goal of the match was scored from the penalty spot. Had the goal not been scored from the penalty, the match would have been a goalless draw.

Roma's performance this season is even weaker than last season. The team scored only 8 goals in 8 Serie A matches. I wouldn't say that Roma's attack is weak. Roma players have the ability to score a lot of goals if the coach can use the players in his squad properly. Both Artem Dovbyk and Dybala are excellent players. Dovyk scored 24 goals in La Liga last season. But Dovbyk's performance with Roma is not as good as expected.

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Quote from: mammusu on October 25, 2024, 03:18:22 AM

Manchester seems to has been really very blind in entrusting ten hag as a coach, even the great trust they currently give to ten hag only produces disappointment that they seem to be forced to accept, in the league they continue to slump and now have to be willing to be outside from top 10, after consecutive negative results in the league indeed ten hag was finally able to bring Manchester United back to victory after defeating Brentford

They look to be more familiar with bad performances with Ten Hag and no longer feel bad about these terrible results. From a club that dominated Premier League years ago, now they are familiar with position in middle of table and see a position in top four is like a league trophy. From going far in Champions League to struggling in Europa League, it's Manchester United recent years but they tend to become worse with Ten Hag.

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But when the fans hopes began to emerge to see victory again, Ten Hag again made a ridiculous experiment in the match against Fenerbache in the Europ League Grin

, the 1-1 draw they got again and made them even more immersed in the current Europa League standings, to be honest, I don't know what was the reference for ten to play Mazraoui as AM in the match, even though he does have more ability to play in defense Grin

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It is lucky for Ten Hag that they did not lose to Fenerbahce hours ago but could not win it but Fenerbahce actually shown their strength. It helped Fenerbahce not only avoid a loss but they created many chances to score more than 1 goal. If Onana did not make two great saves, perhaps Manchester United would have been defeated by Fenerbahce.

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Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

I don't know if they were lucky in this match to get a draw, or they deserved it. Not to belittle them at all, but for now a draw feels like a win for the team coached by Erik Ten Hag. I can't expect much from Manchester United's performance as long as they still have the performance they are now. 3 matches and all ending in a draw is not a good result for a team with a big name like them. But in a competition a big name alone is not enough to bring them to achieve very satisfying results, because they also have to play very well on the field which Manchester United does not have at the moment.

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Quote from: Inwestour on October 25, 2024, 01:58:18 AM

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Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

Manchester seems to has been really very blind in entrusting ten hag as a coach, even the great trust they currently give to ten hag only produces disappointment that they seem to be forced to accept, in the league they continue to slump and now have to be willing to be outside from top 10, after consecutive negative results in the league indeed ten hag was finally able to bring Manchester United back to victory after defeating Brentford, But when the fans hopes began to emerge to see victory again, Ten Hag again made a ridiculous experiment in the match against Fenerbache in the Europ League Grin

, the 1-1 draw they got again and made them even more immersed in the current Europa League standings, to be honest, I don't know what was the reference for ten to play Mazraoui as AM in the match, even though he does have more ability to play in defense Grin

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

Manchester United is not going anywhere in this Europa League I have said it before the Europa League should start that Manchester United is not going anywhere in the league because their performance was very poor and even in the Premier League will end up as a relegation team, as far as Erik ten Hag is Manchester united coach nothing will change from the team because he is a coach with no experience, I have not seen a coach with Poor experience like Erik ten Hag and if Manchester united did not sack him before the end of the league they will end up in relegation position.

Manchester United is the only team that everyone is looking at and laughing at, imagine a team that is the biggest club in the premier league has become a team that if anyone Hears the name will laugh I'm not a Manchester United fan but I'm Disappointed for the club board and the president of the team that decides to keep Erik ten Hag as the coach of the team, I know that they are going to pay him his money but I don't think paying the money will affect Manchester United.

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Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

In the Champions League and Europa League, Manchester performs particularly poorly and of the last 11 games, they could only win one in 2023 against Copenhagen. After that Manchester lost 5 times and drew 5 times, so to expect that Manchester should have won the match against Fenerbahce is also strange, considering the statistics of the past years.
Besides, Mourinho has coached Manchester before and he always performs well against his past teams and as usual he did not do without a show, so I think no one was surprised that the referee eventually showed Mourinho a red card and removed him from the field.

Luck was what saved United from been defeated. I didn't expect much from them because already, they have being disappointing their fans in their previous matches, and I know that their victory over Brentford was a luck. How will a club play five matches and win only one match, is this how weak United have become under Ten Hag.

Only God knows what position United will be on the table when the season comes to an end. The fact is that, Manchester United is currently a mediocre club and they might remain like that till the end of this season, until a new coach take over.

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Beşiktaş played really well yesterday and got 3 points. This result was a surprise for me because I thought Lyon would win but Beşiktaş won. Congratulations Beşiktaş.

Fenerbahçe played well in the first half, they could have been better in the second half but it wasn't.
1 point was good for Fenerbahçe. One of their remaining 5 games could be difficult, they can get a win from the others.

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Quote from: Inwestour on October 25, 2024, 01:58:18 AM

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Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

In the Champions League and Europa League, Manchester performs particularly poorly and of the last 11 games, they could only win one in 2023 against Copenhagen. After that Manchester lost 5 times and drew 5 times, so to expect that Manchester should have won the match against Fenerbahce is also strange, considering the statistics of the past years.
Besides, Mourinho has coached Manchester before and he always performs well against his past teams and as usual he did not do without a show, so I think no one was surprised that the referee eventually showed Mourinho a red card and removed him from the field.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on October 24, 2024, 08:27:12 PM

Manchester United's current performance and lack of experience can be seen in their matches. A draw with Fenerbahce, we have seen them play a lot worse in the Premier League and even in the Europa League, Manchester United have not changed their game. If Ten Hag continues with the team like this, then maybe they will be in a worse position by the end of the season, the current coach is not able to take the team to a good level with such a good strategy. Man United's managers should have been tougher because no one would have imagined that such a popular team would be in such a bad state right now. However, I think Manchester United team managers need to take a tough responsibility and hire a good coach and fill in the gaps in players and games.

I don't know what Manchester United are expecting, miracles won't happen, they are giving Ten Hag time to fix something, but if he didn't have enough years to do it, then what can he change in a few weeks or months. Fenerbahce made a lot of mistakes in defense, Manchester United should have scored a few more goals, but instead they only got a draw, and they are in 21st place in the Europa League table, and this is only the second most important tournament in Europe, so it's obvious, Manchester United need changes.

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Twente made a mistake too quickly so they had to play with 10 players from the 11th minute and that was one of the factors they had to swallow defeat in the 3rd match of the Europa League hosting the visiting team Lazio. The defeat was unavoidable because they also found it difficult to develop their game. Just imagine having to play with 10 people even though it was said from the start of the match, it must not have been easy for them to find a balance in the game, because in terms of the number of players they were outnumbered. This was their first defeat in the Europa League and they have never won. Meanwhile, for Lazio, this victory allowed them to achieve perfect points from the 3 matches they have played, and that brought them to the top of the temporary Europa League standings.

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I took another risk in today 4 match after being disappointed with Braga failure in the first match, but in the 4 matches I chose I didn't watch all of them because I only wanted to focus on seeing how Manchester United played against Fenerbahce whether it could be match full of surprises or not.
Match was quite fierce from the start of the first half and Manchester United was ahead with 1 goal scored, they had many opportunities but it was in vain, as well as Fenerbahce who had several opportunities but were only able to penetrate Onana goal once and made the match end in draw, just as I predicted that Manchester United would find it difficult to win.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 25, 2024, 12:34:47 AM

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I guess, you don't know how Mourinho handles their squad. He is actually a smart person, but sometime he make a blunder and harming himself and the team. I don't know how much time he got a red card when he trained all the teams in this world. Sometimes, his strategy he used is enough effective to hold the opponent attacker to create a goal. But, because of his actions always make a point to pay attention to him, so that make a referee to be focus on him, and give him a red card in vain. On other side, MU is one unstable club, they still have problem with consolidation player, so that condition utilized him to just hold and wait on defense.

I agree with you that Mourinho must avoid red cards that are harmful for his teams only. However, I saw another fact that Jose Mourinho has become less reactive than in the past when he was a younger coach with more emotion. I want to say that even he tried to change himself, be more calm on pitch, and reduce his reactions, when he reacts, referees tend to be too strict with him.

I think you can consider how referees treat with other coaches, to see Jose Mourinho tends to receive stricter punishments in cards than other coaches. Referees tend to give less conversation, warnings to Mourinho and more likely give him a card directly.

Jose Mourinho in recent years have reduced his emotional reactions on the touchline to the barest minimum unlike what we used to see when he was a younger manager. The Portuguese coach however couldn't control his emotions last night in his side's 1:1 draw against Manchester United which was why he received a red card.
In the past, he has made statements that suggests that football referees are always against him but considering what happened in their game last night, I feel he deserved the red card. I hope he learns from it and improve his actions on the sidelines going forward

Bro are you really serious on what you are saying? Are you following Jose Mourinho touchline records recently ? Especially at Roma and this fernabache team he is handing now, if true you have been following him, you will definitely knows that his touchline antics hasn't left him, he is still the Jose Mourinho we all know.

Then as for last night game, though the ref wasn't bais as he believes, but their are some decisions that are quite questionable, but Jose Mourinho will keeps on behaving like Jose Mourinho, on my own part I never expect him to change because that's exactly who he is, he is very emotional when doing his job and that is part of the characteristics that makes most people love him, because he is not just a winner and a entertainer, but he always behaves like a grown up baby, which is quite pleasant and entertaining to watch.

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Quote from: Catenaccio on October 24, 2024, 10:09:12 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on October 24, 2024, 09:59:17 PM

I guess, you don't know how Mourinho handles their squad. He is actually a smart person, but sometime he make a blunder and harming himself and the team. I don't know how much time he got a red card when he trained all the teams in this world. Sometimes, his strategy he used is enough effective to hold the opponent attacker to create a goal. But, because of his actions always make a point to pay attention to him, so that make a referee to be focus on him, and give him a red card in vain. On other side, MU is one unstable club, they still have problem with consolidation player, so that condition utilized him to just hold and wait on defense.

I agree with you that Mourinho must avoid red cards that are harmful for his teams only. However, I saw another fact that Jose Mourinho has become less reactive than in the past when he was a younger coach with more emotion. I want to say that even he tried to change himself, be more calm on pitch, and reduce his reactions, when he reacts, referees tend to be too strict with him.

I think you can consider how referees treat with other coaches, to see Jose Mourinho tends to receive stricter punishments in cards than other coaches. Referees tend to give less conversation, warnings to Mourinho and more likely give him a card directly.

Jose Mourinho in recent years have reduced his emotional reactions on the touchline to the barest minimum unlike what we used to see when he was a younger manager. The Portuguese coach however couldn't control his emotions last night in his side's 1:1 draw against Manchester United which was why he received a red card.
In the past, he has made statements that suggests that football referees are always against him but considering what happened in their game last night, I feel he deserved the red card. I hope he learns from it and improve his actions on the sidelines going forward

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I'm upset to see Fenerbahce didn't beat Manchester United, they actually have a possibility. Manchester United currently at 21th position, there are 5 match left against PAOK, Bodo, Viktoria, Rangers and FCSB. I'm sure they can beat PAOK, Viktoria and FCSB, but if they can't beat Bodo and Rangers, they will not able to reach top 8 positions.

Quote from: Zackz5000 on October 25, 2024, 12:06:50 AM

Manchester United inability to win 10 men Fenerbahce shows that Manchester United can't get better under the management of Erik Ten Hag.

Who was the player that received red card? Cheesy

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