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In terms of appearance, even in the last few weeks it has been quite good but indeed when they were held to a draw by Galatasaray which incidentally is currently a team that is in trouble even worse than Barcelona and the quality of the players are not as good as them but still this draw indicates that they are still unable to be consistent in their performance. performance.
Indeed there is Leg 2 but indeed this is still homework for Xavi that his tactics can still be held and even penetrated by other teams

After the match in Barcelona, people didn't give Barcelona a chance anymore because it had become 1-1 with a lot of effort. We've seen in Naples how good this Barcelona can be, they've played really well here and they're definitely one of the favorites to win this tournament. Xavi has been making a lot of good progress lately, so the results are no coincidence. I think this team can only get better, maybe some new players will be recruited as well. And most players are also fit now. But against Galatasaray it was a lot less unfortunately.

Xavi's performance was very good at Barcelona and indeed it is a fact because with Xavi's return to Camp Nou they who were not favored in La Liga even due to a series of bad results when at Training Koeman is now back in circulation and is already in 3rd position and is currently in third place. trying to overtake to position 2.
The Europa League is always a surprise every year. Barcelona may qualify for the next round but can't predict directly the winner because they still have a long way to go

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I'm also one of the people who really appreciate Galatasaray's solid resistance against Barcelona in the first leg of the matchup. But I think that this is still going to be end of the road for Galatasaray in this round. Barcelona are having a great time period nowadays. Maybe their main goal is to achieve the best success they can in the La Liga now. But I don't think that they will give up on the Europa League too. They wouldn't say no to achieving one title at least in this season. So I believe they will eliminate Galatasaray here first.

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The rematch that I'm curious about the most now is obviously Galatasaray vs Barcelona. The first game in Camp Nou was beyond the expectations of everyone. I guess that everyone was predicting Barcelona to win that game very easily. In the end, there was a really big gap between these teams and Galatasaray were having really bad days before this game too. And we didn't know how they were going to perform here after a manager change. But they ended all the questions by showing a solid defensive performance and getting a 0-0 draw. I've started giving a chance for Galatasaray to advance to the next stage but it is not a big one.

I think that few people except the most loyal Turkish fans of Galatasaray consider Galatasaray the favorite in the return match with Barcelona, but still it is worth admitting that thanks to the zero draw Galatasaray greatly increased their chances of reaching the next stage of the Europa League. Barcelona failed to provide the necessary advantage in the first match and now psychological problems may come to the fore, both due to the youth of the players and excessive responsibility for the result, since everyone is waiting only for victory. There are no such high expectations from Galatasaray, which in turn can liberate the club's players.

Yes, that is true because expectation can play a big part in any match. And obviously, a lot of people are expecting Barcelona to win against Galatasaray. Don't forget Barcelona also has the added pressure of finishing in the top 3 in La Liga. So, Barcelona is obviously the favorite in this match. They did draw the first leg, but I still think that there will be winners in the second leg.

Barcelona played really well their last few matches.Specially, Xavi doing very well for Barcelona. Barcelona now very strong team as well.Galatasaray also strong team.1st leg both team did fight for win but unfortunately they didn’t score goal.I hope second leg Barcelona will win this match.

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After a great defense against Barcelona, Galatasaray must be in a better condition now. They can believe in themselves more to eliminate Barcelona too. Because even though there was a huge quality difference, Galatasaray still kept the score as 0-0 until the final moment in Camp Nou. But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

We can see from the scoreboard that Galatasaray is not good in its own league. On the other hand, Barcelona beat Napoli 4-2 on the road as you said. Since Napoli, which is in the championship race in the Italian league, is helpless against Barcelona, it is not difficult to predict that the match will be very difficult for Galatasaray. Galatasaray's only chance for the rematch may be to score a goal with counter-attack football and make a good defense.

Yes you are right for the most part but think about it from another perspective: how often does Galatasaray have the chance to play against Barcelona, beat Barcelona and make it into the next round, and all of that could be happening in a home game in their own stadium in front of their own fans? I don't even know whether that ever happened before. They might have met in a group stage game in the Champions League, but this is pretty much a once in a lifetime chance. If Galatasaray can take away a tie from Camp Nou, I would argue that they are definitely able to cause Barcelona some serious pain in Istanbul. It is going to be a really, really tough game for Barcelona.

Galatasaray did a really good job by drawing with Barcelona at the Camp Nou. Now they have more work to do for the rematch than themselves. They should reflect all their souls on the field. Barcelona is a very strong team. Galatasaray, on the other hand, finished their group leader. They played in a tough group. They came first among strong teams such as Lazio and Marseille and they still have no defeats in the European cup. If they continue this game, maybe they can knock out Barcelona.

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After a great defense against Barcelona, Galatasaray must be in a better condition now. They can believe in themselves more to eliminate Barcelona too. Because even though there was a huge quality difference, Galatasaray still kept the score as 0-0 until the final moment in Camp Nou. But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

I do not think that having a home game matters when the difference is this big. I mean sure the first game was a tie but that says more about Barcelona then what it says about Galatasaray to be fair. Barcelona just had a terrible outing and I am sure that they will do or at least try to do a lot better next time around.
If Galatasaray lays back again, this time Barcelona will be ready for it and that is why I believe that there is going to be very different and the result will be a bit more dominating. Plus if Barcelona scores even just one goal, GS has to start being a bit more attacking to get a tie and that could open up so much more potential for Barcelona.

Barcelona is going to be attacking in that match. And Galatasaray might need to lay back for a certain time in that match. But, I think probably Galatasaray could catch Barcelona off guard if they commit too many players forward. But, I expect Barcelona to win against Galatasaray as I am sure a lot of others do as well. If Galatasaray wins I feel like that's an upset.

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Yes, that is true because expectation can play a big part in any match. And obviously, a lot of people are expecting Barcelona to win against Galatasaray. Don't forget Barcelona also has the added pressure of finishing in the top 3 in La Liga. So, Barcelona is obviously the favorite in this match. They did draw the first leg, but I still think that there will be winners in the second leg.

Almost predicting have expectation with Barcelona could make party on first leg against with Galatasaray and scoring many goals, but result is not depending what many expectation want because Galatasaray success held Barcelona on first leg without any goal 0-0. Maybe as advantage and become easy for Galatasaray as home match against with Barcelona on second leg, just take try how to be keep confidence and try to score on early game begin maybe make easy for Galatasaray for controlling games.

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The rematch that I'm curious about the most now is obviously Galatasaray vs Barcelona. The first game in Camp Nou was beyond the expectations of everyone. I guess that everyone was predicting Barcelona to win that game very easily. In the end, there was a really big gap between these teams and Galatasaray were having really bad days before this game too. And we didn't know how they were going to perform here after a manager change. But they ended all the questions by showing a solid defensive performance and getting a 0-0 draw. I've started giving a chance for Galatasaray to advance to the next stage but it is not a big one.

I think that few people except the most loyal Turkish fans of Galatasaray consider Galatasaray the favorite in the return match with Barcelona, but still it is worth admitting that thanks to the zero draw Galatasaray greatly increased their chances of reaching the next stage of the Europa League. Barcelona failed to provide the necessary advantage in the first match and now psychological problems may come to the fore, both due to the youth of the players and excessive responsibility for the result, since everyone is waiting only for victory. There are no such high expectations from Galatasaray, which in turn can liberate the club's players.

Yes, that is true because expectation can play a big part in any match. And obviously, a lot of people are expecting Barcelona to win against Galatasaray. Don't forget Barcelona also has the added pressure of finishing in the top 3 in La Liga. So, Barcelona is obviously the favorite in this match. They did draw the first leg, but I still think that there will be winners in the second leg.

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Fans are always an important part of any sport but the thing is fans not playing in the field they are just supporting and shouting. The actual match is being played by the players. And if they can play better they will win, for me, it's as simple as that.
But the home condition does allow the players some advantage because they are very used to playing in their own pitch.

Galatasary broke the Barcelona's row of wins up to 4 so Barcelona disappointed and felt angry about that. They returned to La Liga and destroyed their opponent their to make their third position more solidly. Barcelona with their players and their current form are surely the stronger team and in the second leg, most of people will predict a win for them. Fan or no fan, Barcelona are a favorite team to win it.

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Anyway, I do expect Barcelona to win against Galatasaray but both teams might score in that match. I don't want to get into the debate of Galatasaray being better than Napoli or vice versa. Because it's just a waste of time.

Galatasary did make good job to constrain Barcelona in the first leg but in the second leg, Barcelona already understand more about Galatasaray and Xavi might figure out ways and tactics to beat them. The challenge for Galatasaray in second leg would be much bigger

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But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

How do you know Napoli is stronger than Galatasaray? Although Napoli has more top players, doesn't mean Napoli is a stronger team compared with Galatasaray. I know Galatasaray has not many top players, but they prove to us that they can play solidly. If they can play like in the previous match, Galatasaray is very possible to eliminate Barcelona. What was happening in Napoli home (Italy), may not happen in Galatasaray home. Especially if you consider Galatasaray has many fanatic fans, this may influence a bit the performance of Galatasaray players that they become to have more motivation to win.

Fans are always an important part of any sport but the thing is fans not playing in the field they are just supporting and shouting. The actual match is being played by the players. And if they can play better they will win, for me, it's as simple as that.
But the home condition does allow the players some advantage because they are very used to playing in their own pitch.

Anyway, I do expect Barcelona to win against Galatasaray but both teams might score in that match. I don't want to get into the debate of Galatasaray being better than Napoli or vice versa. Because it's just a waste of time.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 13, 2022, 11:49:38 PM

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After a great defense against Barcelona, Galatasaray must be in a better condition now. They can believe in themselves more to eliminate Barcelona too. Because even though there was a huge quality difference, Galatasaray still kept the score as 0-0 until the final moment in Camp Nou. But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

I do not think that having a home game matters when the difference is this big. I mean sure the first game was a tie but that says more about Barcelona then what it says about Galatasaray to be fair. Barcelona just had a terrible outing and I am sure that they will do or at least try to do a lot better next time around.

If Galatasaray lays back again, this time Barcelona will be ready for it and that is why I believe that there is going to be very different and the result will be a bit more dominating. Plus if Barcelona scores even just one goal, GS has to start being a bit more attacking to get a tie and that could open up so much more potential for Barcelona.

I don't see Galatasaray qualifying for the next round. They can not compete with Barcelona. The catalans are doing an excellent performance in their league game. Barcelona sole aim is win the Europa league and qualify for champions league next season. Xavi had turned the team around ever since he arrived at Barca, new tactics, new players. The thing is that each Manger needs time to settle things at the club. Barcelona will knock-out Galatasaray our of the Europa league. The players at Barca are really thirsty for the trophy. I don't see anything competend as Barcelona.

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Quote from: coderben on March 13, 2022, 03:05:03 AM

After a great defense against Barcelona, Galatasaray must be in a better condition now. They can believe in themselves more to eliminate Barcelona too. Because even though there was a huge quality difference, Galatasaray still kept the score as 0-0 until the final moment in Camp Nou. But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

I do not think that having a home game matters when the difference is this big. I mean sure the first game was a tie but that says more about Barcelona then what it says about Galatasaray to be fair. Barcelona just had a terrible outing and I am sure that they will do or at least try to do a lot better next time around.

If Galatasaray lays back again, this time Barcelona will be ready for it and that is why I believe that there is going to be very different and the result will be a bit more dominating. Plus if Barcelona scores even just one goal, GS has to start being a bit more attacking to get a tie and that could open up so much more potential for Barcelona.

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Quote from: coderben on March 13, 2022, 03:05:03 AM

But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

How do you know Napoli is stronger than Galatasaray? Although Napoli has more top players, doesn't mean Napoli is a stronger team compared with Galatasaray. I know Galatasaray has not many top players, but they prove to us that they can play solidly. If they can play like in the previous match, Galatasaray is very possible to eliminate Barcelona. What was happening in Napoli home (Italy), may not happen in Galatasaray home. Especially if you consider Galatasaray has many fanatic fans, this may influence a bit the performance of Galatasaray players that they become to have more motivation to win.

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Quote from: coderben on March 13, 2022, 03:05:03 AM

After a great defense against Barcelona, Galatasaray must be in a better condition now. They can believe in themselves more to eliminate Barcelona too. Because even though there was a huge quality difference, Galatasaray still kept the score as 0-0 until the final moment in Camp Nou. But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

Both Galatasaray and Barcelona will exactly play optimally for the next match in order to defeat each other. But in my opinion, Xavi may have learned much from the previous match, must use the major lineups from the beginning of the match. Barcelona's performance and mental are now increasing again after they could make a winning result in La Liga, hopefully, this will bring back again their epic performance.
I know that it is not easy to face Galatasaray moreover rin this UEFA Europa League, everything can happen. Let's see who will have bigger chance to score again in the next match. It will be very interesting

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Quote from: CLS63 on March 13, 2022, 03:46:00 PM

The rematch that I'm curious about the most now is obviously Galatasaray vs Barcelona. The first game in Camp Nou was beyond the expectations of everyone. I guess that everyone was predicting Barcelona to win that game very easily. In the end, there was a really big gap between these teams and Galatasaray were having really bad days before this game too. And we didn't know how they were going to perform here after a manager change. But they ended all the questions by showing a solid defensive performance and getting a 0-0 draw. I've started giving a chance for Galatasaray to advance to the next stage but it is not a big one.

I think that few people except the most loyal Turkish fans of Galatasaray consider Galatasaray the favorite in the return match with Barcelona, but still it is worth admitting that thanks to the zero draw Galatasaray greatly increased their chances of reaching the next stage of the Europa League. Barcelona failed to provide the necessary advantage in the first match and now psychological problems may come to the fore, both due to the youth of the players and excessive responsibility for the result, since everyone is waiting only for victory. There are no such high expectations from Galatasaray, which in turn can liberate the club's players.

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Yes, I was at Galatasaray stadium when they had a seemingly unimportant match in the Turkish league. The support from the fans is insane

That's why I think Barcelona will have difficulties in Turkey, in the second leg against Galatasaray. Having drawn 0-0 at home was not a good result for Barcelona.

At the stage where Barcelona are, the support of the fans is very important. Going to a game where fans of the opposing team do a lot of psychological perso, it can be difficult to get a good performance. Of course, sometimes it has the opposite effect, but I don't see this Barcelona beating Galatasaray in the next game.

We'll see what happens, we can only speculate now, but I will watch the match with particular interest because both Barcelona and Galatasaray are good teams for me. Barcelona I support in principle, and Galatasaray I worry about, because their fighting spirit pierced me when I was watching them from the stands. To be honest, I still think Barcelona can beat the Turkish club.

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Another match I wonder about is the Leverkusen - Atalanta match. The first leg finished by the lead of Atalanta, 3-2. To tell the truth, Leverkusen could have lost this match by a bigger goal gap definitely. Because they had two shots on goal in the whole match and both of them resulted in goals. Atalanta had a so productive performance that they could have scored 5 or 6 goals in this one. Therefore, Leverkusen will need to show a much bigger performance in the second leg to have a chance for next round for real. But my favourite to advance is Atalanta of course.

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Quote from: CLS63 on March 13, 2022, 03:46:00 PM

The rematch that I'm curious about the most now is obviously Galatasaray vs Barcelona. The first game in Camp Nou was beyond the expectations of everyone. I guess that everyone was predicting Barcelona to win that game very easily. In the end, there was a really big gap between these teams and Galatasaray were having really bad days before this game too. And we didn't know how they were going to perform here after a manager change. But they ended all the questions by showing a solid defensive performance and getting a 0-0 draw. I've started giving a chance for Galatasaray to advance to the next stage but it is not a big one.

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Inaki Pena is actually a Barcelona goalkeeper who was loaned to Galatasaray in the January 2022 transfer window.

xavi admits that the draw that barca got against Galatasaray was due to the brilliant performance of Pena. in the second leg later pena will definitely do the same thing, frustrate the barca striker, it's like fighting with comrades in arms lol

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for the most part but think about it from another perspective: how often does Galatasaray have the chance to play against Barcelona, beat Barcelona and make it into the next round, and all of that could be happening in a home game in their own stadium in front of their own fans? I don't even know whether that ever happened before. They might have met in a group stage game in the Champions League, but this is pretty much a once in a lifetime chance. If Galatasaray can take away a tie from Camp Nou, I would argue that they are definitely able to cause Barcelona some serious pain in Istanbul. It is going to be a really, really tough game for Barcelona.

As I know It's nothing new as Barcelona is having draw at home and then qualifying for next round in away match it's already happened many times sometime players feel pressure at home and then have good games in second phase so same happened in this match, so I am feeling most chances Barcelona can qualify for next round.

Between these two teams in last 29 years we have 9 matches 5 won by Barcelona with 3 draws and just 1 won by Galatasaray in 1993, so it's all history of these two teams with this all I am feeling even it's not easy game but still Barcelona is having some good chance of qualifying for next round and even for going into final or win for this year's title which is very good for them after very poor time in start of this season.

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The rematch that I'm curious about the most now is obviously Galatasaray vs Barcelona. The first game in Camp Nou was beyond the expectations of everyone. I guess that everyone was predicting Barcelona to win that game very easily. In the end, there was a really big gap between these teams and Galatasaray were having really bad days before this game too. And we didn't know how they were going to perform here after a manager change. But they ended all the questions by showing a solid defensive performance and getting a 0-0 draw. I've started giving a chance for Galatasaray to advance to the next stage but it is not a big one.

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After a great defense against Barcelona, Galatasaray must be in a better condition now. They can believe in themselves more to eliminate Barcelona too. Because even though there was a huge quality difference, Galatasaray still kept the score as 0-0 until the final moment in Camp Nou. But still, I remember the matchup between Barcelona and Napoli also. Napoli did the same in Camp Nou but Barcelona destroyed them by 4-2 in Italy. And Napoli are a much stronger team than Galatasaray. If we take this into account, Galatasaray could experience really bad things in the rematch.

We can see from the scoreboard that Galatasaray is not good in its own league. On the other hand, Barcelona beat Napoli 4-2 on the road as you said. Since Napoli, which is in the championship race in the Italian league, is helpless against Barcelona, it is not difficult to predict that the match will be very difficult for Galatasaray. Galatasaray's only chance for the rematch may be to score a goal with counter-attack football and make a good defense.

Yes you are right for the most part but think about it from another perspective: how often does Galatasaray have the chance to play against Barcelona, beat Barcelona and make it into the next round, and all of that could be happening in a home game in their own stadium in front of their own fans? I don't even know whether that ever happened before. They might have met in a group stage game in the Champions League, but this is pretty much a once in a lifetime chance. If Galatasaray can take away a tie from Camp Nou, I would argue that they are definitely able to cause Barcelona some serious pain in Istanbul. It is going to be a really, really tough game for Barcelona.

I don't know, Barcelona did also draw in the first leg against Napoli in their home match (Camp Nou). And in the second lead, they beat Napoli by 4-2.

After the first leg, I also thought that Barcelona might not have any chance against Napoli but they proved me wrong.
So, I think even though it will be a hard match for Barcelona they are going to win the second leg against Galatasaray.

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