UFC 207: Rousey vs Nunes Prediction and Info Thread

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 11, 2017, 07:54:19 PM

Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 11, 2017, 10:53:23 AM

I also think Jon Jones might start training her on the striking part, she can't rule the division anymore only relying on judo and very poor striking skills, also needs better grappling and takeovers. We'll see what happens but I don't feel bad for her at all. She is rich while I have to work to pay the bills so fuck that.

Why do you think Jon Jones himself will train her? He could help train her but not in the striking part of the game. Jon Jones has a good wrestling background. If there is something he can teach it is wrestling. Jackson-Wink MMA is considered the best camp in the world. If Ronda really wants to train there she will have to train with Holly Holm. Maybe it will be good for her to train with someone who beat her.

Jon Jones made a suggestion that he could help her out but that does not mean that Jon Jones will be training her,he might help her move her camp to Jackson's and if Ronda Rousey still wants to fight she has to find a new coach that could strengthen her weakness rather than boasting her weakness as her strength . Cheesy

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I think Rousey's problem is more mental than technical. We can all blame her coach, her whole team or whoever. But bottom line she shouldn't have taken this fight. Nunes is expected to be a high level fighter, so Rousey should have had a tune up fight first before going for the championship. It would be better for her mentally and her confidence.

Well if she is starting to quote Rowlings for inspiration then you know a screw is loose somewhere after getting knocked out.
http://yahoo.com/sports/news/ronda-rousey-posts-j-k-rowling-inspired-quote-on-instagram-cyborg-responds-010002720.html

Or she is saying that she is not retiring and I hope she continues on. She is good for the sport and it will make things more interesting in the UFC if she is still around. My only wish is to see her in a good training camp the next time she decides to fight. I speculate she will be in the training camp of Jon Jones soon.

I also think Jon Jones might start training her on the striking part, she can't rule the division anymore only relying on judo and very poor striking skills, also needs better grappling and takeovers. We'll see what happens but I don't feel bad for her at all. She is rich while I have to work to pay the bills so fuck that.

Why do you think Jon Jones himself will train her? He could help train her but not in the striking part of the game. Jon Jones has a good wrestling background. If there is something he can teach it is wrestling. Jackson-Wink MMA is considered the best camp in the world. If Ronda really wants to train there she will have to train with Holly Holm. Maybe it will be good for her to train with someone who beat her.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 10, 2017, 07:53:40 PM

Quote from: LLec on January 10, 2017, 12:27:54 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on January 04, 2017, 03:34:43 AM

I think Rousey's problem is more mental than technical. We can all blame her coach, her whole team or whoever. But bottom line she shouldn't have taken this fight. Nunes is expected to be a high level fighter, so Rousey should have had a tune up fight first before going for the championship. It would be better for her mentally and her confidence.

Well if she is starting to quote Rowlings for inspiration then you know a screw is loose somewhere after getting knocked out.
http://yahoo.com/sports/news/ronda-rousey-posts-j-k-rowling-inspired-quote-on-instagram-cyborg-responds-010002720.html

Or she is saying that she is not retiring and I hope she continues on. She is good for the sport and it will make things more interesting in the UFC if she is still around. My only wish is to see her in a good training camp the next time she decides to fight. I speculate she will be in the training camp of Jon Jones soon.

Do you think its time for her to change camp? or just add Jon Jones in it?

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 10, 2017, 07:53:40 PM

Quote from: LLec on January 10, 2017, 12:27:54 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on January 04, 2017, 03:34:43 AM

I think Rousey's problem is more mental than technical. We can all blame her coach, her whole team or whoever. But bottom line she shouldn't have taken this fight. Nunes is expected to be a high level fighter, so Rousey should have had a tune up fight first before going for the championship. It would be better for her mentally and her confidence.

Well if she is starting to quote Rowlings for inspiration then you know a screw is loose somewhere after getting knocked out.
http://yahoo.com/sports/news/ronda-rousey-posts-j-k-rowling-inspired-quote-on-instagram-cyborg-responds-010002720.html

Or she is saying that she is not retiring and I hope she continues on. She is good for the sport and it will make things more interesting in the UFC if she is still around. My only wish is to see her in a good training camp the next time she decides to fight. I speculate she will be in the training camp of Jon Jones soon.

I also think Jon Jones might start training her on the striking part, she can't rule the division anymore only relying on judo and very poor striking skills, also needs better grappling and takeovers. We'll see what happens but I don't feel bad for her at all. She is rich while I have to work to pay the bills so fuck that.

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Quote from: LLec on January 10, 2017, 12:27:54 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on January 04, 2017, 03:34:43 AM

I think Rousey's problem is more mental than technical. We can all blame her coach, her whole team or whoever. But bottom line she shouldn't have taken this fight. Nunes is expected to be a high level fighter, so Rousey should have had a tune up fight first before going for the championship. It would be better for her mentally and her confidence.

Well if she is starting to quote Rowlings for inspiration then you know a screw is loose somewhere after getting knocked out.
http://yahoo.com/sports/news/ronda-rousey-posts-j-k-rowling-inspired-quote-on-instagram-cyborg-responds-010002720.html

Or she is saying that she is not retiring and I hope she continues on. She is good for the sport and it will make things more interesting in the UFC if she is still around. My only wish is to see her in a good training camp the next time she decides to fight. I speculate she will be in the training camp of Jon Jones soon.

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I just don't buy this "it was her coach ruining her" conspiracy. Let's just wait and see what happens. Her mom already told her that she should retire, but she still has a ton of support on the sport by other fighters that are telling her to come back. I think she will come back for a third fight, but it cant be for a tittle fight, or else she will get destroyed again, I think a non tittle fight will have better ods because of less pressure.

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Quote from: tokeweed on January 04, 2017, 03:34:43 AM

I think Rousey's problem is more mental than technical. We can all blame her coach, her whole team or whoever. But bottom line she shouldn't have taken this fight. Nunes is expected to be a high level fighter, so Rousey should have had a tune up fight first before going for the championship. It would be better for her mentally and her confidence.

Well if she is starting to quote Rowlings for inspiration then you know a screw is loose somewhere after getting knocked out.
http://yahoo.com/sports/news/ronda-rousey-posts-j-k-rowling-inspired-quote-on-instagram-cyborg-responds-010002720.html

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@SaShiRaJaVu. Yeah, Amanda wants to be as big of a star as Ronda is. The problem with that is Amanda is hard to market. She is not as pretty, not as smart and witty, and she does nor have the it factor to bring the women's division to another level. If she thinks her name is going to be as big as Ronda's she will be really disappointed. She will never get a crowd like Ronda.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 05, 2017, 08:44:49 PM

A few days later after UFC 207 it is becoming clear that it was Amanda Nunes who asked for the fight versus Ronda. She mentioned it in her post fight interview. If you did not see it then watch it again. Now in other interviews Amanda is saying that Ronda is overrated. I have realized that Amanda wants to become the new face of the UFC. That is something that will not happen because she does not have the charisma like Ronda has.

Amanda Nunes is the first champion other than Ronda Rousey to defend the women's 135 belt and it was clear that Amanda wanted to built her career at the expense of Ronda Rousey as she is the face of the women MMA and an impressive win over her would mark the career she wanted ,but she started ridiculing Ronda after the victory which is really bad because if not for Ronda Rousey no one would notice women fighting .

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Quote from: tokeweed on January 04, 2017, 03:34:43 AM

I think Rousey's problem is more mental than technical. We can all blame her coach, her whole team or whoever. But bottom line she shouldn't have taken this fight. Nunes is expected to be a high level fighter, so Rousey should have had a tune up fight first before going for the championship. It would be better for her mentally and her confidence.

It is all about money and rumor is that she was not at all sparring as she normally does ,may be you are right as it might be a mental thing because she was sure she could defeat one of the boxing's undefeated Floyd Mayweather and her coach was sure that she could defeat any world class boxing champion if she enters a boxing ring but the reality was she could not take a clean punch in the face Cheesy

,yes she should have stayed with her technical base which is judo and taken the fight to the ground than listening to the hype.

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A few days later after UFC 207 it is becoming clear that it was Amanda Nunes who asked for the fight versus Ronda. She mentioned it in her post fight interview. If you did not see it then watch it again. Now in other interviews Amanda is saying that Ronda is overrated. I have realized that Amanda wants to become the new face of the UFC. That is something that will not happen because she does not have the charisma like Ronda has.

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@thejaytiesto. What head movement? Ronda Rousey's trainer is now exposed as a nobody in the world of MMA or the world of boxing. The only fighter he trained is Ronda and he has been feeding her the wrong ideas. It showed with how she fights. There are big holes in her game that needs to be fixed. It is time for her to join a real training camp if she intends to continue fighting.

Well one would expect that if you are the "Baddest woman in the world" and you are making all those millions, she would be bright enough to get a good trainer. But is this trainer new? what about the 12 wins? if she won the 12 wins with the same guy then why are all those people criticizing the trainer? Also how did exactly this guy got exposed?

Anyway I think she still could fight again, make that change in the coach if needed and let's see what happens, I think shes done but we'll see.

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I think Rousey's problem is more mental than technical. We can all blame her coach, her whole team or whoever. But bottom line she shouldn't have taken this fight. Nunes is expected to be a high level fighter, so Rousey should have had a tune up fight first before going for the championship. It would be better for her mentally and her confidence.

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What an impressive fight, Amanda Nunes dominated Ronda Rousey in the very first round with a huge upset for the year end. When I watched the fight it's like Nunes just punching a mosquito in the mid air without a reason that she kicked Rousey's ass. Ronda should already knew that she's fighting a striker and she keep her distance with her. I don't know if she learned her lesson from his previous fight with Holms, very disappointed tho. Amanda's next opponent should be Holly Holms or Cristiane "Cyborg" Justino I want to see a real brawl in the octagon, blood spotting on the floor.

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Well shit that was quick... im glad I didn't bet for Ronda Rousey, she got destroyed by Amanda Nunes. She was acting very strange, it was just not there, where was the head movement? she was walking straight into Amanda Nunes punches. She should have had a relaxed first round to be acclimated to being inside the octacon after 1+ year... but I think she was overconfident and went for the takedown too quick. I think her career is over.

I believe that her coach is not good. She has nothing to show that night. All she did was to block and release nunes shots that only give nunes an early idea to put pressure and step up her gas early, and look at her legs, was that really Rousey? It's too straight. She should have used the whole ring and forget about showing her kind of fight in the first round since it is what her opponent is expecting from her. If she only she avoid the first punches of nunes and not blocking it or she could have survive another round. Cheesy

She should fight another fighter and not nunes on her comeback fight, she still has the night mare from her fight with Holmes.

No room for advices and tips from the coach since Nunes agressive style maintains Rousey at her feet at the start of the round. Nunes is really good breaching Rousey's defense even at the early seconds of the fight. Rousey must think of a way herself during that phase and try to get out from that round but unfortunately it didn't.

They are all just not prepared for whatever output and Nunes able to spoiled them out surprisingly.

Not really advice from her coach, but yeah, exactly, the preparation, they might not be expecting that scenario. Or it's possible that Nunes camp already have an idea based on how Rousey was beaten by Holmes during their fight, since it is almost the same, she was caught too by Nunes wide open and shocked. That two losses exposes her weakness.

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Quote from: diegz on January 03, 2017, 08:55:22 PM

Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 03, 2017, 10:26:15 AM

Well shit that was quick... im glad I didn't bet for Ronda Rousey, she got destroyed by Amanda Nunes. She was acting very strange, it was just not there, where was the head movement? she was walking straight into Amanda Nunes punches. She should have had a relaxed first round to be acclimated to being inside the octacon after 1+ year... but I think she was overconfident and went for the takedown too quick. I think her career is over.

I believe that her coach is not good. She has nothing to show that night. All she did was to block and release nunes shots that only give nunes an early idea to put pressure and step up her gas early, and look at her legs, was that really Rousey? It's too straight. She should have used the whole ring and forget about showing her kind of fight in the first round since it is what her opponent is expecting from her. If she only she avoid the first punches of nunes and not blocking it or she could have survive another round. Cheesy

She should fight another fighter and not nunes on her comeback fight, she still has the night mare from her fight with Holmes.

No room for advices and tips from the coach since Nunes agressive style maintains Rousey at her feet at the start of the round. Nunes is really good breaching Rousey's defense even at the early seconds of the fight. Rousey must think of a way herself during that phase and try to get out from that round but unfortunately it didn't.

They are all just not prepared for whatever output and Nunes able to spoiled them out surprisingly.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 03, 2017, 10:26:15 AM

Well shit that was quick... im glad I didn't bet for Ronda Rousey, she got destroyed by Amanda Nunes. She was acting very strange, it was just not there, where was the head movement? she was walking straight into Amanda Nunes punches. She should have had a relaxed first round to be acclimated to being inside the octacon after 1+ year... but I think she was overconfident and went for the takedown too quick. I think her career is over.

I believe that her coach is not good. She has nothing to show that night. All she did was to block and release nunes shots that only give nunes an early idea to put pressure and step up her gas early, and look at her legs, was that really Rousey? It's too straight. She should have used the whole ring and forget about showing her kind of fight in the first round since it is what her opponent is expecting from her. If she only she avoid the first punches of nunes and not blocking it or she could have survive another round. Cheesy

She should fight another fighter and not nunes on her comeback fight, she still has the night mare from her fight with Holmes.

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@thejaytiesto. What head movement? Ronda Rousey's trainer is now exposed as a nobody in the world of MMA or the world of boxing. The only fighter he trained is Ronda and he has been feeding her the wrong ideas. It showed with how she fights. There are big holes in her game that needs to be fixed. It is time for her to join a real training camp if she intends to continue fighting.

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Well shit that was quick... im glad I didn't bet for Ronda Rousey, she got destroyed by Amanda Nunes. She was acting very strange, it was just not there, where was the head movement? she was walking straight into Amanda Nunes punches. She should have had a relaxed first round to be acclimated to being inside the octacon after 1+ year... but I think she was overconfident and went for the takedown too quick. I think her career is over.

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Well it was quite obvious that UFC management wanted to get paid before the end of the year even at the health risk of getting this one particular fighter killed in the ring at the hands of the champion after a year out of the spotlight and the ring. So you be the judge on that one but all the signs are there.
One last cash-in for UFC at the expense of Ronda's health physically and mentally.
They definitely got paid more than her or they would not be in this kind of side show business in the first place.
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There was no pressure from the UFC to Ronda Rousey to return on that fight card and Ronda came back to fight for the title on her terms and so is the reason she took an year off and came back to fight Nunes but now we know that it was a bad decision from her part to return to fight because she is really not the person she once was.Her confidence is shattered and her coaching sucks .

For being out for over a year she shouldnt even have got the title fight. If you stay out and that too you went out losing, one shouldnt get a title fight. She didnt even deserve it. For the guy saying that UFC forced her to come and fight against Nunes, You are either deluded or just a butt hurt Rousey's fan. As per what she said, She had been training for the return and she planned her return perfectly. I do agree that UFC have made a lot of money by making Ronda a star but when u actually see her fight you can sort of understand that she's a one trick pony. A really good one trick pony. She was never a boxer or even came close to it and her strategy failed miserably on trying to box with Nunes in the begining. Dont know what she was thinking. It ended how it was meant to be. Now mostly good MMA artists r in UFC and very fre one trick ponies.

Unfortunately, UFC womens version was unexciting, Believe me nobody wanted to watch it each time they' squeeze in 2 women inside the octagon and it was Ronda Rousey who lifted it to the top and each time she would fight it was ufc"s main event.
You can always argue with this but that is the reality

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