Topic: UFC 217: Bisping vs GSP Info and Betting Thread - page 2. (Read 957 times)

And the day of the big fight has arrived and i am going the safe route in my mind and my bet for the day is GSP,Cody Garbrandt,Joanna Jedrzejczyk,Stephen Thomson,Paulo Borrachinha,Walt Harris Mickey Gall OSP Vs Corey over 1.5 , i have made multiple parlays and hope i win some of them,it is a juicy card to miss and i am sad that i missed out on the Bellator card earlier today which was easy pickings.

My thoughts exactly.

Namajumas is showing maturity and wisdom in the way she carries herself. Joanna's antics appear more immature in contrast. I have Namajunas winning the talking battle. What happens in the cage can often be an entirely different story, though. There have been many fights where one person dominated in the talking and promotion, then got KO'ed in the 1st round of the actual fight.

One point no one is touching upon is, one of Thug Rose Namajunas' training partners is Valentina Shevchenko. Joanna and Shevchenko have fought 2-3 times in muay thai kickboxing and Shevchenko beat Joanna every single time. Shevchenko could know Joanna's game very well and be able to teach Rose counters that might allow her to win. That theory is farfetched, Joanna's technique has changed a lot since she first came to MMA. Still it is possible that having Shevchenko as a sparring partner, someone who already beat Joanna 3 times in kickboxing, could give Rose an advantage.

Cody vs TJ is similar. TJ predicted Cody's team would say a lot of bad things about TJ during fight week & TJ turned out to be right. TJ might be a little better spoken than Cody in the talking part of things. No one's giving TJ a chance but the fight could be a lot closer than many realize.

Bisping vs GSP also. Bisping is probably winning the talking part of things. While GSP looks very relaxed and confident.

Its possible we'll see that talking doesn't matter at all, the only thing that matters is what happens in the cage. Or maybe it will show that the talking does matter and can serve as a valid indication of how the fight will go.

Thanks again for sharing us the link. Wow JJ just barging in but Rose didn't move a thing although she is very focus and tight. But JJ again used his big mouth to try to intimate Rose but I think she's getting in her head because look how tight she is, even she has his fist clenched. LOL. I think Rose has improved a lot and she is very dangerous once she gets a hold of you and try for a submission. But JJ is still above with all the women's right now, she is on a different level specially with her striking ability. I think she will win again for her 7th successful defense of her title.

Does anybody else think Namajunas can win vs JJ?  I think she has a better chance than the 5.74 odds Nitrogen has given her.  I also think she has the edge mentally.  JJ could be leveling herself with all the psychological warfare she's doing against a person who just sees thru her.

Here are the weigh ins.  Enjoy. 

UFC 217: Official Weigh-in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmTR_mx9-EE

GSP by tko round 2.

@DeathAngel. Michael Bisping is merely having a string of good fights and some luck with how judges scored them. But his skills are the same as it were, showing only minor improvement.

GSP has a better chance to win this. Have you also watched their faceoff yet? The size difference between the two is not that great. Many casual fans make the mistake of thinking that this will be like David versus Goliath.

Bisping to win here, even though he is a veteran fighter I think he has peaked late, he’s a very dangerous man atm. Bisping by KO or TKO.

Hey guys, just dropping by to post some videos.  Enjoy watching them and I hope it doesn't affect your decision making when making your bets.    These vids are known to hype the event.

Which comes down to my question...  Do you think Rose Namajunas can get lucky against JJ?  Odds on here at Nitrogen seems to look like it's value.

UFC 217 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlVwGjwex9s

UFC 217: Inside the Octagon - Garbrandt vs Dillashaw & Joanna vs Namajunas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk0-piiwvJ8

UFC 217 Embedded: Vlog Series Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU_XfiNJkos

UFC 217 Embedded: Vlog Series Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yUEhjbNhKs

As much as I loved Freddie Roach, I don't think it will add up any value to Georges St. Pierre. I think we have seen Freddie's best days, Pacquiao is declining I can't remember any of his stable boxers making a scene in the boxing world so for me there's nothing special having Freddie on GSP's corner.

The Tyson thing is different I think, he just honed Tyson because that guy has already punching power. And as time progresses Freddie's style is somewhat outdated plus the physical deterioration he has makes him less trainer than he used to be.

So with Freddie Roach on Georges St Pierre's corner does that change the odds? I am siding with Michael Bisping on this fight but after I saw a video clip Boxings hall of Famer Freddie Roach I think GSP has a bigger chance to to win this fight as Freddie Roach is helping him with his striking skills. GSPs ground game is good but if he adds striking to his arsenal, he may disappoint Bisping this coming Saturday.

I've seen Freddie Roach make Mike Tyson a changed Boxer after training him. Without Roach, Tyson rely more on his power punches but after Roach stepped in the training camp, Tyson is ducking punches, moves faster and his punch is more precise.

Another great card in this year, 3 main events with the belt. I'm surprised Bisping odds is bigger than GSP, I mean Bisping is not that bad and I feel like GSP era is already done. About Cody Garbrandt vs T.J. Dillashaw, this is a must watch match.

i think Bisping vs GSP result will be like machida vs brunson,1-2 round bisping TKO  . too long gsp was on holidays

Don't follow me on this but I have Bisping winning.

GSP might have broke mentally when he fought Johny Hendricks. Something happened to GSP after that fight where he lost his nerve and didn't want to fight anymore. I think its a long and hard road for GSP to climb back into the cage and the odds are against him.

GSP has also been a one dimensional fighter throughout his career. Either GSP jabs his way to decision wins or he takes his opponents down. That doesn't leave GSP with a lot of options if he someone shuts down the two ways he has to win fights the way Johny Hendricks did. Also I think MMA has evolved since GSP retired. Everyone has improved. GSP was always a small welterweight. There are pictures of GSP standing next to Conor McGregor and they're both close to the same size.

This my resemble and thorough and confident analysis but its really not. I could easily see GSP winning the fight.

There's an alternative analysis which says the reason GSP stepped away from MMA had to do with his former manager being awarded rights to big chunks of GSP's paychecks by a judge even though they had parted ways years ago. GSP might have quit MMA due to him not wanting his former manager to get a cut of his UFC salary. So there are a few competing theories for explaining why things happen and not everything is necessarily etched in stone.

George is a perfectionist and he always get the right coaching staff always,to deal with Bisping and his striking he has Freddie Roach in his corner and his game plan will be to take Bisping down and score points every round and that is his natural game plan,his long lay off is the only factor in this fight and i am not sure how that will affect his game plan,only after seeing the first few minutes we could determine how the fight is going .

I think so as well. Bisping is one of the luckiest champion and he is the weakest. While GSP has been a champion and its very relax on the cage and seems to be focus. And I also believed that he challenged Bisping because he thinks that he can beat him easily. And he will not make his comeback if he thinks that his mind and body is not ready plus the opportunity presents itself to him to fight for the belt in his comeback.

Got a feeling Bisping is going to lose this one, he’s already had 7 losses in his career & he’s only champion because the best guys are past their peak.

It's at 219.

And Khabib after McGregor vs Ferguson?  No way.  Khabib dropped out from fighting Ferguson and he ruined his chances to be on the way to get a crack at the belt.  The UFC should make him wait.  But we'll see.  

Anyway, I updated the first post.  Check the poster out.  It's one of the better looking posters I've seen from the UFC.  It has this Star Wars vibe which I kinda like.

He can try to out volume him, on the feet so that Bisping has to take more chances and that might open up an easier takedown. GSP is very athletic , maybe he will try some head kicks or something else we have not seen him use a lot.

Bisping is the kind of fighter who will charge and doesn't care if he will end up flat on his back that's why on his first square off with Hendo, he got KOd but on the 2nd square off, still the same fighting style but a little more careful and he may have studied Hendos fighting style, his face ended up bloodied but he won. GSPs fight is more technical but watching his last fights in UFC, he seems like he just want to hold on to the title and always play safe. We may have a good fight this coming Saturday and I hope GSP will be aggressive and try to KO Bisping and not run away to play safe.

Did anyone see that Khabib Nurmagomedov will fight Edson Barboza in UFC217? did anyone get dropped and got replaced with these guys or there were free spots for this fight?

This fight is huge, I want to see it more than Bisping vs GSP to be honest. Khabib is undefeated and I think will be the next fight for Conor after Tony Ferguson. I would like to see an undefeated Khabib fight Conor so I hope he wins. Also noticed how short Khabib's reach is. 70 inch reach for a 5'11 guy is pretty short. Barboza got 75 reach at 5'10'' and Conor got 74 reach at 5'9''. I guess Khabib is not going to try to throw hands and just constantly go for the takedown.