UFC 222: Cyborg vs Kunitskaya Prediction and Info Thread

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 13, 2018, 10:21:07 PM

What? The latest news is Amanda Nunes will still go on and fight in UFC 226 versus Chris Cyborg, that is if Amanda wins in UFC 224 and if she is cleared to fight by the UFC with no injuries.

Chris Cyborg is already preparing her camp and Valentina Shevchenko will be in it to help her.

Amanda Nunes is fighting Raquel Pennington at UFC 224 and it looks like Cyborg has given a final deadline to accept the fight as Cyborg wanted to fight her during international fight week and it is not that easy to turn around in two months time and move a weight class and fight the best female fighter in the world for a very long time,i really do not think the fight is going to happen as Cyborg will look for another opponent for the fight week and my guess would be Megan Anderson.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 11, 2018, 09:03:23 AM

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 06, 2018, 04:16:35 PM

I'm commenting as a fan of Frankie Edgar. Yes, we enjoyed a lot of his fight but sometimes they need to understand where to draw the line.

I also thought that Kunitskaya has the tools to beat Cyborg and maybe the strategy she thinks is to shoot early and see how Cyborg reacts. But Cyborg was well prepared and her striking is right on the money. Kunitskaya was caught and wasn't able to recover from those bombs that Cyborg rained on her.

It is really hard to pick against Cyborg as she is the best fighter in the world for a very long time,Kunitskaya was downplaying the punching power of Cyborg and she could not really take a proper punch from her,she took down and nothing happened,she just stood up and blasted her without giving any more chances,the only fight i want to see now is against Amanda Nunes.

I agree that its really hard to pick against her, but surprises can be a bitch sometimes. Another good example is Rhonda Rousey losing her belt against Holly Holm. And as gamblers, we all love to bet on the underdog.

Well, its really a risk that she takes and probably the issue is that he didn't have the chin to hold against the power punch of Cyborg. Amanda Nunes vs Cyborg will be awesome, but its still on-hold because its gonna be Nunes vs Pennington at UFC 224.

What? The latest news is Amanda Nunes will still go on and fight in UFC 226 versus Chris Cyborg, that is if Amanda wins in UFC 224 and if she is cleared to fight by the UFC with no injuries.

Chris Cyborg is already preparing her camp and Valentina Shevchenko will be in it to help her.

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Quote from: gabmen on March 13, 2018, 10:02:45 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 11, 2018, 09:03:23 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on March 10, 2018, 05:53:49 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 06, 2018, 04:16:35 PM

I'm commenting as a fan of Frankie Edgar. Yes, we enjoyed a lot of his fight but sometimes they need to understand where to draw the line.

I also thought that Kunitskaya has the tools to beat Cyborg and maybe the strategy she thinks is to shoot early and see how Cyborg reacts. But Cyborg was well prepared and her striking is right on the money. Kunitskaya was caught and wasn't able to recover from those bombs that Cyborg rained on her.

It is really hard to pick against Cyborg as she is the best fighter in the world for a very long time,Kunitskaya was downplaying the punching power of Cyborg and she could not really take a proper punch from her,she took down and nothing happened,she just stood up and blasted her without giving any more chances,the only fight i want to see now is against Amanda Nunes.

I agree that its really hard to pick against her, but surprises can be a bitch sometimes. Another good example is Rhonda Rousey losing her belt against Holly Holm. And as gamblers, we all love to bet on the underdog.

Well, its really a risk that she takes and probably the issue is that he didn't have the chin to hold against the power punch of Cyborg. Amanda Nunes vs Cyborg will be awesome, but its still on-hold because its gonna be Nunes vs Pennington at UFC 224.

Cris cyborg's probably going to own her division the same way rhonda rousey did some.years back. Too bad that fight didn't push through though at this point, cycborg would probably best rousey as well.

Yes, I think if we are going back to the history of women, Ronda there's Gina Carano. Similar to Ronda, she has defeated and clean up her division until she fought Cyborg which ended her career.

So I think if Ronda vs Cyborg, happens, I'm sure that Chris will do that same with Ronda. I do hope that it will happen in the future, but Ronda concentrating on her movie career, we might not see the fight happening anytime soon.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 11, 2018, 09:03:23 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on March 10, 2018, 05:53:49 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 06, 2018, 04:16:35 PM

I'm commenting as a fan of Frankie Edgar. Yes, we enjoyed a lot of his fight but sometimes they need to understand where to draw the line.

I also thought that Kunitskaya has the tools to beat Cyborg and maybe the strategy she thinks is to shoot early and see how Cyborg reacts. But Cyborg was well prepared and her striking is right on the money. Kunitskaya was caught and wasn't able to recover from those bombs that Cyborg rained on her.

It is really hard to pick against Cyborg as she is the best fighter in the world for a very long time,Kunitskaya was downplaying the punching power of Cyborg and she could not really take a proper punch from her,she took down and nothing happened,she just stood up and blasted her without giving any more chances,the only fight i want to see now is against Amanda Nunes.

I agree that its really hard to pick against her, but surprises can be a bitch sometimes. Another good example is Rhonda Rousey losing her belt against Holly Holm. And as gamblers, we all love to bet on the underdog.

Well, its really a risk that she takes and probably the issue is that he didn't have the chin to hold against the power punch of Cyborg. Amanda Nunes vs Cyborg will be awesome, but its still on-hold because its gonna be Nunes vs Pennington at UFC 224.

Cris cyborg's probably going to own her division the same way rhonda rousey did some.years back. Too bad that fight didn't push through though at this point, cycborg would probably best rousey as well.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on March 10, 2018, 05:53:49 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 06, 2018, 04:16:35 PM

I'm commenting as a fan of Frankie Edgar. Yes, we enjoyed a lot of his fight but sometimes they need to understand where to draw the line.

I also thought that Kunitskaya has the tools to beat Cyborg and maybe the strategy she thinks is to shoot early and see how Cyborg reacts. But Cyborg was well prepared and her striking is right on the money. Kunitskaya was caught and wasn't able to recover from those bombs that Cyborg rained on her.

It is really hard to pick against Cyborg as she is the best fighter in the world for a very long time,Kunitskaya was downplaying the punching power of Cyborg and she could not really take a proper punch from her,she took down and nothing happened,she just stood up and blasted her without giving any more chances,the only fight i want to see now is against Amanda Nunes.

I agree that its really hard to pick against her, but surprises can be a bitch sometimes. Another good example is Rhonda Rousey losing her belt against Holly Holm. And as gamblers, we all love to bet on the underdog.

Well, its really a risk that she takes and probably the issue is that he didn't have the chin to hold against the power punch of Cyborg. Amanda Nunes vs Cyborg will be awesome, but its still on-hold because its gonna be Nunes vs Pennington at UFC 224.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 06, 2018, 04:16:35 PM

I'm commenting as a fan of Frankie Edgar. Yes, we enjoyed a lot of his fight but sometimes they need to understand where to draw the line.

I also thought that Kunitskaya has the tools to beat Cyborg and maybe the strategy she thinks is to shoot early and see how Cyborg reacts. But Cyborg was well prepared and her striking is right on the money. Kunitskaya was caught and wasn't able to recover from those bombs that Cyborg rained on her.

It is really hard to pick against Cyborg as she is the best fighter in the world for a very long time,Kunitskaya was downplaying the punching power of Cyborg and she could not really take a proper punch from her,she took down and nothing happened,she just stood up and blasted her without giving any more chances,the only fight i want to see now is against Amanda Nunes.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on March 06, 2018, 01:11:46 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 04, 2018, 09:05:37 PM

@btc_angela. Yes, everyone missed Brian's height and reach advantage hehe. I am happy that he won. I would very much would like to watch him and Max Holloway for the championship than Frankie Edgar.

Frankie is old now and he had his time. But is time for the young fighters to take over.

Frankie Edgar had his time in the octagon but I think he will not retire yet and if Dana tries to release him, he will just transfer to Bellator to continue fighting. Unfortunately, almost every UFC event there's one new and young fighter born to take over what they have left.
Surprised to see Arlovski winning that fight with Stefan Struve.
I thought Kunitskaya can beat Cyborg, she really went for it on the first few seconds of the fight and tried to take her down but Cyborg is one h*ll of a striker.

I'm commenting as a fan of Frankie Edgar. Yes, we enjoyed a lot of his fight but sometimes they need to understand where to draw the line.

I also thought that Kunitskaya has the tools to beat Cyborg and maybe the strategy she thinks is to shoot early and see how Cyborg reacts. But Cyborg was well prepared and her striking is right on the money. Kunitskaya was caught and wasn't able to recover from those bombs that Cyborg rained on her.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 04, 2018, 09:05:37 PM

@btc_angela. Yes, everyone missed Brian's height and reach advantage hehe. I am happy that he won. I would very much would like to watch him and Max Holloway for the championship than Frankie Edgar.

Frankie is old now and he had his time. But is time for the young fighters to take over.

Frankie Edgar had his time in the octagon but I think he will not retire yet and if Dana tries to release him, he will just transfer to Bellator to continue fighting. Unfortunately, almost every UFC event there's one new and young fighter born to take over what they have left.
Surprised to see Arlovski winning that fight with Stefan Struve.
I thought Kunitskaya can beat Cyborg, she really went for it on the first few seconds of the fight and tried to take her down but Cyborg is one h*ll of a striker.

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Haha. I guess Ortega was just too big to fail. Or Edgar might need to drop a weight class or two. Either way, I think Frankie was too slow and too predictable. Ortega blocked a lot of Frankie's punches with his gloves and shoulders. Almost like Ortega was able to anticipate and see what Frankie was doing before he did it. It may only have been a matter of time before Ortega hit him with a stiff counter.

Kunitskaya's arms and shoulders are so massive. In hindsight it makes sense for her to try to overpower Cyborg wrestling.

Hernandez upset was very surprising. Hernandez predicted he would win and seemed very confident leading up to the fight.

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^ Dana White has already confirmed that Holloway vs Ortega will happen as soon as the former is out of injury and ready to train.

I think Holloway will have his hands full fighting Ortega. The guy is just huge. He's like a LW fighting at FW... Seriously.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 04, 2018, 09:05:37 PM

@btc_angela. Yes, everyone missed Brian's height and reach advantage hehe. I am happy that he won. I would very much would like to watch him and Max Holloway for the championship than Frankie Edgar.

Frankie is old now and he had his time. But is time for the young fighters to take over.

Yeah, the height and reach was pretty obvious. Its like watching Jon Jones Vs Daniel Cormier at the lower weight class. And it really looks like the Brian in one weight class above Frankie during the fight. He must have been rehydrated well. Although Frankie tries to bring the fight to him, its was not enough as he was able to take Edgar's best punch. The old dragons need to retire now, no need to damage your body and worst your brain. Holloway vs Ortega will be a good match.

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@btc_angela. Yes, everyone missed Brian's height and reach advantage hehe. I am happy that he won. I would very much would like to watch him and Max Holloway for the championship than Frankie Edgar.

Frankie is old now and he had his time. But is time for the young fighters to take over.

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I didn't see the full fight, and I just watched replay of the main card. Yana Kunitskaya was not intimidated at all and she take the risk and try to be the aggressive but Cyborg is really strong. Although Yana was able to took her down, she was able to capitalized it and Cyborg has one of the best defense and Yana pay the price for it.

And what a win by Brian Ortega. He looks like 7 feet tall against Frankie. Lol. First person to KO Frankie I think and he did it in the first round. So I think that's it for Frankie Edgar. He should retire in my opinion.

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It was a crazy fight card with five split decision victories which is a record in a single event,the judging are awful as every state has their own set of rules and regulations,they need to set things and make a single MMA rule world wide rather than different rules on judging the fight,the sport has grown a lot a still we are confused with different rules,the biggest upset was Alexander Hernandez knocking Beneil Dariush in his first UFC fight.

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Lol. There goes my bet (again).

Here are the results. I didn't watch the event. I just looked at the results online and saw that my bet lost and laughed. I was kinda half hoping I'd win it tbh. Lololol. Grin

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I reckon Brian Ortega has a better chance of winning than what the odds are making us believe. He is also the bigger guy, with the longer reach, which might give Frankie Edgar some difficulties if the fight goes standup/striking.

Needless to say, Brian also has a good ground game and something Frankie might not want to get into versus him.

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No write up yet but here are my bets:

I think CB can get through round one when Lombard will be the most dangerous and get a win, maybe a late finish.
O malley over hyped.
I dont really trust Arlovski´s or Struve´s chin but I can see Struve getting knocked out, again with one of those big looping punches after going backwards too much.
Cat has been away a while but at those odds it is a value bet on her vs Vieira should be closer to even.
Dern totaly over hyped and going to be under the big lights, Yoder could upset here or make it really close, crazy odds.
I think that Cyborg uses the same style as vs Holm and uses some clinical striking, Kunitskaya was training with Holm too, and will try to string this out into more rounds, you get great odds only for her to make it to the second.

C.B. Dollaway +105* vs Hector Lombard
Andre Soukhamthath -120* vs Sean O'Malley
Andrei Arlovski +160* vs Stefan Struve
Cat Zingano +170* vs Ketlen Vieira
Yoder (scorecards = no action) +534* vs Dern (scorecards = no action)
Yoder points handicap +3½ +165* vs Dern points handicap
Andre Soukhamthath -120* vs Sean O'Malley
Cat Zingano +170* vs Ketlen Vieira
Ashley Yoder +375* vs Mackenzie Dern
Kunitskaya / Cyborg starts round 3 +200* vs Fight won’t start round 3
Kunitskaya / Cyborg starts round 2 -120* vs Fight won’t start round 2
Arlovski wins inside distance +300* vs Not Arlovski inside distance
Yana Kunitskaya/Cris Cyborg Over 1½ +130*

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 02, 2018, 07:50:47 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on March 02, 2018, 03:23:32 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on March 01, 2018, 04:52:49 PM

-Nothing personal but I hope Frankie Edgar loses. :/ He keeps talking about Conor like he thinks he's going to easily take Conor down and lie on him for 5 rounds to win a decision. Its annoying.

This is the exact reason Conor McGregor is avoiding Frankie Edgar for a very long time because of his wrestling skills and accolades and he is a black belt in BJJ and no one has ever stopped Frankie Edgar in his career and that cannot be said about Conor as he was stopped three times till now in MMA and one time in boxing and he is the only fighter who never defended any of his belts in his entire career Cheesy

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I am going with Frankie Edgar to win the fight ,i do understand the high level ground skills of Ortega and he is a future champion but the Frankie i know could defend anything Ortega can bring to the table mainly because of the slow start of Ortega and it is hard to stop Frankie like the rest of the opponents he faced.

I'm also leaning towards Frankie here. I admit that I'm a big fan so I might be biased here. And even if he losses this fight, he still has more years. He's not getting the accolades that he deserves and his fight is very exciting, but he seldom fight and Ortega is just a replacement because he's supposed to fight Holloway. He opted not to wait for Holloway but instead fights Ortega instead.

^ I don't think he 'still has more years'. Edgar is getting old. And his fighting style is def NOT exciting imo. If anything, Ortega has 'more years' than Edgar and losing here wouldn't be all that bad for him. It's actually good for his growth and experience.

Here are the weigh ins.

UFC 222: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AByHNTsreo

I made a small bet on Kunitskaya at 10.89. Grin

Cris Cyborg (144.75) vs Yana Kunitskaya (144)
Frankie Edgar (146) vs Brian Ortega (145.5)
Sean O’Malley (136) vs Andre Soukhamthath (135.25)
Stefan Struve (266) vs Andrei Arlovski (247.5)
Cat Zingano (135.5) vs Ketlen Vieira (136)
Ashley Yoder (115.5) vs Mackenzie Dern (116)
Beneil Dariush (156) vs Alexander Hernandez (155)
John Dodson (134.5) vs Pedro Munhoz (135)
C.B. Dollaway (185.5) vs Hector Lombard (185.5)
Mike Pyle (170) vs Zak Ottow (171)
Bryan Caraway (135.5) vs Cody Stamann (135.75)
Jordan Johnson (206) vs Adam Milstead (205)

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 02, 2018, 03:23:32 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on March 01, 2018, 04:52:49 PM

-Nothing personal but I hope Frankie Edgar loses. :/ He keeps talking about Conor like he thinks he's going to easily take Conor down and lie on him for 5 rounds to win a decision. Its annoying.

This is the exact reason Conor McGregor is avoiding Frankie Edgar for a very long time because of his wrestling skills and accolades and he is a black belt in BJJ and no one has ever stopped Frankie Edgar in his career and that cannot be said about Conor as he was stopped three times till now in MMA and one time in boxing and he is the only fighter who never defended any of his belts in his entire career Cheesy

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I am going with Frankie Edgar to win the fight ,i do understand the high level ground skills of Ortega and he is a future champion but the Frankie i know could defend anything Ortega can bring to the table mainly because of the slow start of Ortega and it is hard to stop Frankie like the rest of the opponents he faced.

I'm also leaning towards Frankie here. I admit that I'm a big fan so I might be biased here. And even if he losses this fight, he still has more years. He's not getting the accolades that he deserves and his fight is very exciting, but he seldom fight and Ortega is just a replacement because he's supposed to fight Holloway. He opted not to wait for Holloway but instead fights Ortega instead.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on March 01, 2018, 04:52:49 PM

-Nothing personal but I hope Frankie Edgar loses. :/ He keeps talking about Conor like he thinks he's going to easily take Conor down and lie on him for 5 rounds to win a decision. Its annoying.

This is the exact reason Conor McGregor is avoiding Frankie Edgar for a very long time because of his wrestling skills and accolades and he is a black belt in BJJ and no one has ever stopped Frankie Edgar in his career and that cannot be said about Conor as he was stopped three times till now in MMA and one time in boxing and he is the only fighter who never defended any of his belts in his entire career Cheesy

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I am going with Frankie Edgar to win the fight ,i do understand the high level ground skills of Ortega and he is a future champion but the Frankie i know could defend anything Ortega can bring to the table mainly because of the slow start of Ortega and it is hard to stop Frankie like the rest of the opponents he faced.

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