Topic: UFC 284: Makhachev vs. Volkanovski (Read 217 times)
I will not place any bets on this fight. The odds are so uneven, it's completely unclear what will happen. We are talking about Machachev, the man who has an advantage in height and weight, and who climbed to the top of light weight immediately after Islam, Khabib, we know. On the other hand, there is Volkanovski, it will be very difficult for Mackachev to finish this man. I witnessed how Volkanovski's active breathing did not run out, his mouth does not even open, his cardio is so strong. I support Volkanovski, I want him to win with all my heart and I just want the match.
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Volk is to small so the striking will not work as well as it usually does for him. I know he is used to being the smaller man but Makhachev is huge compared to him and has the ability to submit him easily if he can get the takedown. Volk will be not be throwing as many punches as he does normally because he will be worried about the takedown. He could lose in the striking because of this threat of submission. I still think Makhachev submits Volk in 2 rounds he will make volk tired and he will stop defending the takedowns and it will be game over.
Since you are talking about Alexander Volkanovski being too small when he is facing Islam Makhachev, but the fact remains that Alexander Volkanovski has a much bigger reach advantage than Islam and that is his strength when he was facing all these fighters at 145 pound division. Volk is to small so the striking will not work as well as it usually does for him. I know he is used to being the smaller man but Makhachev is huge compared to him and has the ability to submit him easily if he can get the takedown. Volk will be not be throwing as many punches as he does normally because he will be worried about the takedown. He could lose in the striking because of this threat of submission. I still think Makhachev submits Volk in 2 rounds he will make volk tired and he will stop defending the takedowns and it will be game over.
He knows to control the distance and strike with every opponents he faced because he is having a bigger reach advantage than the rest of the fighters and he does have a really small neck and hence even submission fighters like Brian Ortega failed to submit him even after having locked in great submissions.
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The only advantage of Volk on this match is striking and his experience because he fought many strong fighter on his career but he will definitely dominated by Makhachev on this fight since this will be a wrestling game. Islam will never let this fight a striking fest and he will surely attempt takedown as much as possible like he was always doing on his previous matches.
I would say, the only disadvantage of Alexander Volkanovski is that he never fought elite level ground fighters as most of his opponents were strikers with BJJ skills but Islam is a wrestler with submission skills and the interesting aspect is how Alexander Volkanovski will handle Islam on the ground. The only advantage of Volk on this match is striking and his experience because he fought many strong fighter on his career but he will definitely dominated by Makhachev on this fight since this will be a wrestling game. Islam will never let this fight a striking fest and he will surely attempt takedown as much as possible like he was always doing on his previous matches.
Volkanov hasn't fought someone with Dagestani wrestling yet which makes this challenging for him but if he can avoid takedowns and counter it with his uppercut, Islam could lose. This situation can actually happen in this fight and Islam's best attempt is to takedown Volkanovski too.
But theoretically, when it comes to just standing on both legs Islam has a slim chance to win.
It's a fight between the best kickboxer and the best wrestler, of course each of them have an advantages and disadvantages. But it doesn't mean Volkanovski is bad in ground fight and Makhachev doesn't fight in distance, Volkanovski has black belt in jiu jitsu while Makhachev is also training about Kickboxing in America. But theoretically, when it comes to just standing on both legs Islam has a slim chance to win.
But wrestling is more dangerous in MMA because it doesn't matter how tough your chin, it doesn't hurt you but you will lose in the fight. You need to have a close or higher wrestling skill if you're want to avoid lose via submission.
Agree on this, Striking is useless if your enemy is very good on take down on Octagon because there’s no such thing as clinch in UFC and this is the only way for a striker can get out on a possible submission by a good wrestler. There’s sill doubt about Makhachev because he doesn’t much face strong opponent except Oliveira on his career but his submission and wrestling are both impressive since he is guided by Khabib which is the best on this method on UFC.
The only advantage of Volk on this match is striking and his experience because he fought many strong fighter on his career but he will definitely dominated by Makhachev on this fight since this will be a wrestling game. Islam will never let this fight a striking fest and he will surely attempt takedown as much as possible like he was always doing on his previous matches.
Islam had many times used thier striking to set up thier takedowns. He ducks a counter punch only to lift his opponent's leg to takedown. He does it easily they won't see it coming and then ultimately chokes his opponent. The kind of attack is already predictable but Volk may find it hard to avoid because Islam is a huge beast, Islam may take more than just a big uppercut to bring down.
Makhachev, Islam 1.26
Volkanovski, Alex 4.20
So far the grappler is almost destined to win.
He could lose in the striking because of this threat of submission. I still think Makhachev submits Volk in 2 rounds he will make volk tired and he will stop defending the takedowns and it will be game over.
Most opponent of Makhachev is exactly doing what you said before that’s why they failed to beat Makhachev with striking power but Volk is different to other player which Makhachev defeat before because he is much confident on his striking power and can defend submission attempt properly. With this, he is always focus on his striking power which his main weapon to beat Makhachev.I’m sure Volk will have a hard time but I don’t see him lose via submission because he will surely counter Makhachev take down with his punch fire power.
Agree on this, Striking is useless if your enemy is very good on take down on Octagon because there’s no such thing as clinch in UFC and this is the only way for a striker can get out on a possible submission by a good wrestler. There’s sill doubt about Makhachev because he doesn’t much face strong opponent except Oliveira on his career but his submission and wrestling are both impressive since he is guided by Khabib which is the best on this method on UFC.
The only advantage of Volk on this match is striking and his experience because he fought many strong fighter on his career but he will definitely dominated by Makhachev on this fight since this will be a wrestling game. Islam will never let this fight a striking fest and he will surely attempt takedown as much as possible like he was always doing on his previous matches.
Volk is to small so the striking will not work as well as it usually does for him. I know he is used to being the smaller man but Makhachev is huge compared to him and has the ability to submit him easily if he can get the takedown. Volk will be not be throwing as many punches as he does normally because he will be worried about the takedown. He could lose in the striking because of this threat of submission. I still think Makhachev submits Volk in 2 rounds he will make volk tired and he will stop defending the takedowns and it will be game over. The only advantage of Volk on this match is striking and his experience because he fought many strong fighter on his career but he will definitely dominated by Makhachev on this fight since this will be a wrestling game. Islam will never let this fight a striking fest and he will surely attempt takedown as much as possible like he was always doing on his previous matches.
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Volkanov hasn't fought someone with Dagestani wrestling yet which makes this challenging for him but if he can avoid takedowns and counter it with his uppercut, Islam could lose. This situation can actually happen in this fight and Islam's best attempt is to takedown Volkanovski too.
But theoretically, when it comes to just standing on both legs Islam has a slim chance to win.
It's a fight between the best kickboxer and the best wrestler, of course each of them have an advantages and disadvantages. But it doesn't mean Volkanovski is bad in ground fight and Makhachev doesn't fight in distance, Volkanovski has black belt in jiu jitsu while Makhachev is also training about Kickboxing in America. But theoretically, when it comes to just standing on both legs Islam has a slim chance to win.
But wrestling is more dangerous in MMA because it doesn't matter how tough your chin, it doesn't hurt you but you will lose in the fight. You need to have a close or higher wrestling skill if you're want to avoid lose via submission.
Agree on this, Striking is useless if your enemy is very good on take down on Octagon because there’s no such thing as clinch in UFC and this is the only way for a striker can get out on a possible submission by a good wrestler. There’s sill doubt about Makhachev because he doesn’t much face strong opponent except Oliveira on his career but his submission and wrestling are both impressive since he is guided by Khabib which is the best on this method on UFC.
The only advantage of Volk on this match is striking and his experience because he fought many strong fighter on his career but he will definitely dominated by Makhachev on this fight since this will be a wrestling game. Islam will never let this fight a striking fest and he will surely attempt takedown as much as possible like he was always doing on his previous matches.
Volkanov hasn't fought someone with Dagestani wrestling yet which makes this challenging for him but if he can avoid takedowns and counter it with his uppercut, Islam could lose. This situation can actually happen in this fight and Islam's best attempt is to takedown Volkanovski too.
But theoretically, when it comes to just standing on both legs Islam has a slim chance to win.
It's a fight between the best kickboxer and the best wrestler, of course each of them have an advantages and disadvantages. But it doesn't mean Volkanovski is bad in ground fight and Makhachev doesn't fight in distance, Volkanovski has black belt in jiu jitsu while Makhachev is also training about Kickboxing in America. But theoretically, when it comes to just standing on both legs Islam has a slim chance to win.
But wrestling is more dangerous in MMA because it doesn't matter how tough your chin, it doesn't hurt you but you will lose in the fight. You need to have a close or higher wrestling skill if you're want to avoid lose via submission.
There is already a topic dedicated to the ufc on this board? Why do we need a new one? I guess this is allowed but I do not see the need of it but I am excited for the fight. I think Makhachev submits Volkanovski in round 2. Volk is to small to compete against the wrestling of Makhachev. It is what is best for the ufc because Volaknovski has dominated for to long and has become boring. The only competition was Max Holloway but we was beaten easily 3 times. Korean Zombie who is a legend could not beat him. Jose Aldo and Brian Ortega. Volknovski has beaten nearly every legend in his division and did it easily. I think we finally have someone to pass the torch to. My only fear is Makhachev will probably dominate the division even longer then Volkaknovski.
You're saying it's due?
It is either Volk gets slower and rustier while he fights a better fighter. Islam is going to have to fight for it and Volk will give him a good run.
There will be time for him to dominate in the division if Islam wins. He is the younger among them since in the coming years Poirier or Gaethje is on thier decline.
There is already a topic dedicated to the ufc on this board? Why do we need a new one? I guess this is allowed but I do not see the need of it but I am excited for the fight. I think Makhachev submits Volkanovski in round 2. Volk is to small to compete against the wrestling of Makhachev. It is what is best for the ufc because Volaknovski has dominated for to long and has become boring. The only competition was Max Holloway but we was beaten easily 3 times. Korean Zombie who is a legend could not beat him. Jose Aldo and Brian Ortega. Volknovski has beaten nearly every legend in his division and did it easily. I think we finally have someone to pass the torch to. My only fear is Makhachev will probably dominate the division even longer then Volkaknovski.
Volkanov hasn't fought someone with Dagestani wrestling yet which makes this challenging for him but if he can avoid takedowns and counter it with his uppercut, Islam could lose. This situation can actually happen in this fight and Islam's best attempt is to takedown Volkanovski too.
But theoretically, when it comes to just standing on both legs Islam has a slim chance to win.
I will not bet in this match because this is very close.
For me.1. I have to put aside the pound-for-pound ranking between Volkanovski vs. Makhachev.
The name of any fight can happen unexpectedly in the ring, we often see that in UFC fights, indeed at this time Volkanovski is superior to Makhachev, with different opponents.
"Wouldn't you like to bet and watch on the standings of the upcoming UFC fight with something you've never seen and happened before, don't you want to see Makhachev open his takedown move, I hope you will reconsider the bet for the two of them" it seems that a change will occur between Volkanovski vs. Makhachev this time.
What if we don't see career, rank, body size in their fight, how instinct based assumption, do you agree.
Size and weight are so relevant in wrestling and grappling departments. That this fight makes no sense in my opinion.
Takedowns would be difficult to defend if Volkanovski were a similar mass and weight to Makhachev. Being at a disadvantage increases the difficulty factor.
Takedowns would be difficult to defend if Volkanovski were a similar mass and weight to Makhachev. Being at a disadvantage increases the difficulty factor.
The difference in mass is only 5 KG so its not really that much to go on. Does that much weight really make a difference in any sports event? I would say no.
While body weight discrepancy does not make a huge difference in boxing or kickboxing.
It does matter more for wrestling and BJJ for reasons similar to 5 kg advantage being relavant in tug of war. Having greater mass can translate to a strength advantage as well as allow for greater conservation of energy.
If Makhachev and Volkanovski both weigh in at 155 pounds. On fight night Makhachev could weigh 175 pounds while Volkanovski weighs 160. The amount of water weight they regain after weighing in can vary tremendously due to height differences in the size of their frames.
On paper, I thought Makhachev was a bad match for Volkanovski. We can see if I was wrong. That is one thing that makes MMA a great sport.
After Makhachev defeated Oliveira in 280, he becomes the next to step up like Khabib and Chimaev is out. For this fight, Volkanovski will expect to be taken down and possibly not going to defend his title.
Here's a detailed comparison of thier stats http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/256894b49303537b
ISLAM MAKHACHEV
Takedown Accuracy 65%
Takedown Defense 88%
ALEXANDER VOLKANOVSKI
Takedown Accuracy 36%
Takedown Defense 73%
Makhachev will have a big chance to defeat Alexander if he can take down Volkanovski but Volkanovski is so awesome with his attack, this is the next big thing in the UFC light division after Aldo and Mcgregor and this has the making of a trilogy I hope it will live on its hype because both fighters are on top division.
I have Makhachev winning the match and it's going to be in a ground match where he is very good like Khabib.
Both fighters has an incredible fighting record so no doubt that this match will be a guaranteed action pack unless one of them manage to land a solid punch and convert to submission since both fighter is capable and very good at that. This fight will surely the battle of takedowns and grappling which is most viewer really.
I believe this fight will prove greatness of both fighter.
Despite having less wins Makhachev is really good and I'd even say better especially after seeing him fight against Oliveira who is very experienced and fought very good fighters compared to Makhachev.
Oliveira won against Poirier and Gaethje who are top class fighters while there are no such names in Makhachev's profile. This shows that the guy can achieve a lot if he doesn't become to cocky or stressed.
It's because when you're not a champion, you can fight with any fighter, but when you're already become a champion, you must take any fight from any fighters which want to fight with you because you need to prove if you're deserve to get the belt. Oliveira won against Poirier and Gaethje who are top class fighters while there are no such names in Makhachev's profile. This shows that the guy can achieve a lot if he doesn't become to cocky or stressed.
This fight Makhachev need to risk his belt while Volkanovski doesn't, so it's will be the first task for Makhachev to defend his title.
Volkanovski is top 1 men's P4P rank, Makhachev is taking more scariest challenge than Oliveira, you need to think twice for saying Makhachev isn't better than Oliveira.
After Makhachev defeated Oliveira in 280, he becomes the next to step up like Khabib and Chimaev is out. For this fight, Volkanovski will expect to be taken down and possibly not going to defend his title.
Here's a detailed comparison of thier stats http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/256894b49303537b
ISLAM MAKHACHEV
Takedown Accuracy 65%
Takedown Defense 88%
ALEXANDER VOLKANOVSKI
Takedown Accuracy 36%
Takedown Defense 73%
Makhachev will have a big chance to defeat Alexander if he can take down Volkanovski but Volkanovski is so awesome with his attack, this is the next big thing in the UFC light division after Aldo and Mcgregor and this has the making of a trilogy I hope it will live on its hype because both fighters are on top division.
I have Makhachev winning the match and it's going to be in a ground match where he is very good like Khabib.
ISLAM MAKHACHEV
Takedown Accuracy 65%
Takedown Defense 88%
ALEXANDER VOLKANOVSKI
Takedown Accuracy 36%
Takedown Defense 73%
Takedown Accuracy 65%
Takedown Defense 88%
ALEXANDER VOLKANOVSKI
Takedown Accuracy 36%
Takedown Defense 73%
Better ground fighter usually has the advantage unless you're extremely good at avoiding take downs like Cro Cop for example.
Hard to say which of them is going to win, they both have their advantages but Makhachev weighs more which is important for take downs a small height disadvantage doesn't mean much on the ground.
I'd put my money on him, but anything can happen.
Size and weight are so relevant in wrestling and grappling departments. That this fight makes no sense in my opinion.
Takedowns would be difficult to defend if Volkanovski were a similar mass and weight to Makhachev. Being at a disadvantage increases the difficulty factor.
Takedowns would be difficult to defend if Volkanovski were a similar mass and weight to Makhachev. Being at a disadvantage increases the difficulty factor.
The difference in mass is only 5 KG so its not really that much to go on. Does that much weight really make a difference in any sports event? I would say no.
The height on the other hand is quite a gap between them and I think that will be more of an influence on striking power, from a physics standpoint. So my money would be on Volkanovski. Although I do not know much about him and have not yet seen many of his fights yet. I do find it hilarious that the Australian has a more russian-sounding name than the russian boxxer.
Makhachev might have a couple of years more experience in boxxing but that does not seem to have put his career far above Volkanovskis. Still, Volkanovski has more to gain from this fight. I think that motivation alone will make him fight harder.
Smart money's on the australian boxxer, Volkanovski.
Despite having less wins Makhachev is really good and I'd even say better especially after seeing him fight against Oliveira who is very experienced and fought very good fighters compared to Makhachev.
Oliveira won against Poirier and Gaethje who are top class fighters while there are no such names in Makhachev's profile. This shows that the guy can achieve a lot if he doesn't become to cocky or stressed.
One could say that Volkanovski defeated better opponents but 3 of his top fights are against the same guy, Max Holloway, who is good, but had some mental breakdowns and wasn't in his top shape which got him kicked out of the UFC.
Oliveira won against Poirier and Gaethje who are top class fighters while there are no such names in Makhachev's profile. This shows that the guy can achieve a lot if he doesn't become to cocky or stressed.
One could say that Volkanovski defeated better opponents but 3 of his top fights are against the same guy, Max Holloway, who is good, but had some mental breakdowns and wasn't in his top shape which got him kicked out of the UFC.
Last 12 days to go before this epic fight between 2 undisputed champion will finally clash to compete for the lightweight belt and the rank 1 pound for pound spot.
As expected, Islam Makhachev is still the favorite since the fight will be on his weight class while Volk doesn’t have much pressure since he is the challenger here. You can place your bet on Megapari sportsbook for more special promotion when you create account.
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As expected, Islam Makhachev is still the favorite since the fight will be on his weight class while Volk doesn’t have much pressure since he is the challenger here. You can place your bet on Megapari sportsbook for more special promotion when you create account.
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After Makhachev defeated Oliveira in 280, he becomes the next to step up like Khabib and Chimaev is out. For this fight, Volkanovski will expect to be taken down and possibly not going to defend his title.
Here's a detailed comparison of thier stats http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/256894b49303537b
ISLAM MAKHACHEV
Takedown Accuracy 65%
Takedown Defense 88%
ALEXANDER VOLKANOVSKI
Takedown Accuracy 36%
Takedown Defense 73%
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