Topic: UFC FN 119: Brunson vs Machida Info and Prediction Thread - page 2. (Read 490 times)

Check out the media day conference's face off.  Machida looks good!  He looks healthy and comparing his size with Brunson, I don't think Brunson appears to have any reach advantage over him (didn't check their stats yet).

Fight Night Sao Paulo: Media Day Faceoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT78VC-t44Y

I would have to go with Machida. His movement is unique. the way he gets in and out of skirmish is pretty awesome. Add his excellent counter punching skill I think he will win. But what bothers me is his age. I think he slowed down since before but I'll still bet on him.

Lot's of other MMA pros are for a Brunson win.  They consider Machida on the decline, but Brunson isn't exactly what he was hyped to be tho.  It was Whitaker who turned out be 'the man'.  But we'll see.  Lots of people don't take that the fight will be in Brazil into consideration.

MMA Pros Pick - Lyoto Machida vs. Derek Brunson (UFC Fight Night 119)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osN4c6XEckY

Between Derek Brunson and Lyoto Machida, I would go with Derek Brunson. Lyoto Machida last had a taste of victory 2 years and 10 months ago. Derek Brunson also have the reach advantage but in terms of experience inside the octagon Lyoto Machida has more of that but, I think Lyoto Machida is beyond his prime. This will be Derek Brunson's 3rd fight for this year, while Lyoto Machida last seen action in the octagon 2 years ago. I'll be more excited to watch the fight of Demian Maia and Colby Covington.

I reckon it was Chael Sonnen who said that steroids do not give fighters super strength. If a fighter does not have the power to knock out someone, steroids will not help.

What steroids do during training is to help with faster recovery, stamina and a little strength. But they do not transform you to become a power puncher like Mike Tyson.

This site compiles every positive steroid test result in MMA with correlation to the win/loss result of the fight they tested postive for.


There is more detailed info at the source, I didn't post it all it would be too long.

According to them the official record of confirmed steroid use in MMA is 22 wins to 25 losses.

Too bad the original owners of cagepotato sold their site. Before it was sold it was one of the best MMA sites in terms of content.

I agree, and although he lost his last two they were vs . top guys.

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Same.  I looove Machida.  I love his movement, his elusiveness and his movement overall.  His style is just awesome to watch even without any brawling action.  It's one of the reasons why I like Mcgregor's style as well.  The Shotokan karatedo style as is isn't really that great for MMA, but the movement of the practioners transitioning to MMA kinda makes their fighting style look unique.

Should be a good match.

Kind of like jon jones losing streak, or Brock Lesnar, or anyone else not caught yet. The fighters in your list are also older or were older when they started losing.


Can you show us these studies?

BJJ Scout released this clip of Demian Maia vs Colby Covington grappling/wrestling analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_fq-2nRkp8

The betting line shifted in favor of Demian Maia shortly afterward. BJJ Scout has some of the best analysis for grappling/wrestling in MMA that I've seen. His material is worth watching for anyone interested in the finer points of wrestling/grappling which is one area most of us don't know much about.

Not many notes on this card, here are a few.

-How well Derek Brunson does in the stand up could depend on whether he's training himself in his own gym or working with JacksonWink coaches. If anyone noticed the changes in Brunson's kickboxing those came with him starting his own gym and training himself out of it.

-Lyoto Machida hasn't done well around the time he tested positive for steroids. He's coming off a suspension from a positive test. Many of the guys that trained at blackhouse gym in california have also tested positive. Anderson Silva, Kevin Casey, Lyoto Machida, Brian Ortega, Rafael Cavalcante and maybe a few others I can't remember right now all trained in the same gym as Lyoto and all tested positive for steroids.

Steroid use could have a detrimental effect upon the careers of MMA fighters. Gilbert Melendez, Chael Sonnen & others have suffered losing streaks after testing positive. Statistically there have been studies done on this and most of the time those who test positive for steroids lose their fights in MMA.

Im taking  Machida.
Will add more soon

I think that Machida´s counterstriking and movement will be a good counter to Brunson.
If Brunson doenst win in the first 2:30 then its over for him imo.

https://degenbet.com/ufc-fight-night-brazil-brunson-vs-machida/

Date: Saturday, October 28th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:30 BCT / 3:30pm PST / 6:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 2:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.stopstream.me/




Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Derek Brunson (17-5) vs. Lyoto Machida (22-7) (Middleweight)
Demian Maia (25-7) vs. Colby Covington (12-1) (Welterweight)
Pedro Munhoz (14-2) vs. Rob Font (14-2) (Bantamweight)
Francisco Trinaldo (21-5) vs. Jim Miller (28-10) (Lightweight)
Thiago Santos (15-5) vs. Jack Hermansson (16-3) (Middleweight)
John Lineker (29-8) vs. Marlon Vera (10-3-1) (Bantamweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 2)

Vicente Luque (11-6-1) vs. Niko Price (11-0) (Welterweight)
Antonio Carlos Junior (8-2) vs. Jack Marshman (22-6) (Middleweight)
Hacran Dias (23-5-1) vs. Jared Gordon (13-1) (Lightweight)
Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos (17-5) vs. Max Griffin (13-3) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Deiveson Figueiredo (12-0) vs. Jarred Brooks (13-0) (Flyweight)
Christian Colombo (8-2-1) vs. Marcelo Golm (5-0) (Heavyweight)

Other

- On September 19, promotional newcomer Carlos Felipe was flagged for a potential USADA violation stemming from an out-of-competition sample collected July 29. Therefore he was pulled from his UFC debut against Christian Colombo. He was replaced by fellow promotional newcomer Marcelo Golm on September 20.

- On October 6, it was announced that Luan Chagas fractured his foot and pulled out of his welterweight bout against Niko Price. He was replaced by Vicente Luque on October 6.

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