[UFC] Israel Adesanya vs Alex Pereira 2 - page 2.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 10, 2023, 07:33:29 AM

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I am in favor of a third fight of the two in the UFC. That Adesanya lost a couple of times to Pereira in kickboxing is not part of the story anymore. That's just history that isn't even MMA. The UFC record is 1-1 to both Pereira and Adesanya. So it is fair to have a third match if only to break the tie.

That was a great match. The first one was also a great match. There is no reason to deprive MMA fans of another great match in a second UFC rematch. Both fighters deserve it also.

If only Pereira survived those counterblows, this could have easily been a repeat of their first match. But Pereira was also the one who got saved by the bell in their first fight. A third fight is needed.

I didn't expect Adesanya to be able to win TKO from Pereira, he seemed to have prepared everything from the start, this was Adesanya's first win against Pereira, I'm sure there will be another match between the two that will take place in the next few years

I can say that the two of them have an eternal rivalry, apart from that Israel's Adesanya uses the "mocking" celebration that Pereira's son did to him first. really entertaining Cheesy

The fight could end with either of them winning via knockout. They both have the power. So the knockout win could come from Adesanya or Pereira. They're also very eager to prove something.

Although I really want to see a tie breaker, it seems the interest to have a rematch is very low. Dana White is not interested. Even Pereira himself is not interested anymore. Adesanya has also declared that he is not anymore interested in facing Pereira once more. So the rivalry is not eternal. It has already ended.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 10, 2023, 09:49:27 AM

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Adesanya is mocking Pereira with his celebration, it's a good revenge by him.

Pereira's son mocked Israel before when he was knocked out, Israel was just returning the favour. There will be another fight and by then the pressure would have shifted to Israel who will now be bearing the weight of trying to defend the belt he just won. Israel need to not rest but to continue developing and polishing his techniques so he can be ready before an official date for the next fight between the two of them is announced. It will be tougher.

Videos and pictures of them hugging and showing respect to each other are surfacing they have mutual respect for each other after the fight all hate and thrash talking should end, I'm sure they will meet again in the future it depends on the decision of the UFC, they go could go right away or they will let both fighters fight other fighters, the score is just even in the UFC and I'm sure the MMA community will like to see both fighters meet in the ring again, the excitement and the drama will still be there when they meet for the fifth time in their careers.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on April 10, 2023, 09:35:41 AM

Adesanya is mocking Pereira with his celebration, it's a good revenge by him.

Pereira's son mocked Israel before when he was knocked out, Israel was just returning the favour. There will be another fight and by then the pressure would have shifted to Israel who will now be bearing the weight of trying to defend the belt he just won. Israel need to not rest but to continue developing and polishing his techniques so he can be ready before an official date for the next fight between the two of them be announced. It will be tougher.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 10, 2023, 07:33:29 AM

I didn't expect Adesanya to be able to win TKO from Pereira, he seemed to have prepared everything from the start, this was Adesanya's first win against Pereira, I'm sure there will be another match between the two that will take place in the next few years

I can say that the two of them have an eternal rivalry, apart from that Israel's Adesanya uses the "mocking" celebration that Pereira's son did to him first. really entertaining Cheesy

The odds is saying if Adesanya will win this fight and he's a kickboxer, he have a power to knockout Pereira. The first match Adesanya is dominating the fight, but he just make an one mistake and Pereira can knockout Adesanya.

It's really fast how Adesanya can beat Pereira in the round 2, I expect it should be round 4 at least because both of them are a good fighter. Yeah Adesanya is mocking Pereira with his celebration, it's a good revenge by him.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 10, 2023, 07:56:54 AM

Quote from: Tumanggor on April 10, 2023, 07:33:29 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 10, 2023, 06:05:31 AM

I am in favor of a third fight of the two in the UFC. That Adesanya lost a couple of times to Pereira in kickboxing is not part of the story anymore. That's just history that isn't even MMA. The UFC record is 1-1 to both Pereira and Adesanya. So it is fair to have a third match if only to break the tie.

That was a great match. The first one was also a great match. There is no reason to deprive MMA fans of another great match in a second UFC rematch. Both fighters deserve it also.

If only Pereira survived those counterblows, this could have easily been a repeat of their first match. But Pereira was also the one who got saved by the bell in their first fight. A third fight is needed.

I didn't expect Adesanya to be able to win TKO from Pereira, he seemed to have prepared everything from the start, this was Adesanya's first win against Pereira, I'm sure there will be another match between the two that will take place in the next few years

Adesanya didn't just win a TKO against Pereira; he won a KO against the man who used to beat him 3 times. But it's not really unexpected. We all know how athletic, quick, and powerful Adesanya is. It could happen. You have to remember he also nearly knocked out Pereira in their first MMA match. Now, it has finally happened.

For now, the prospect of a rematch will have to be shelved. It could happen in the future though, but Dana has mentioned that Poatan might be moving to 205 after the match. So the rivalry will have to end, at least for now.

Pereira fits in that weight class. He don't have to dehydrate himself to take away 20 lbs every weigh-in. If Adesanya fights Pereira on 205 lbs, Adesanya will be in big trouble.

Maybe if Adesanya decides to also move to 205lbs, they may have a rematch but so far according to the news, a rematch in the coming months may be unlikely. And by that time also Pereira might have losses because LH is full of cold-blooded fighters like him.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 10, 2023, 07:33:29 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 10, 2023, 06:05:31 AM

I am in favor of a third fight of the two in the UFC. That Adesanya lost a couple of times to Pereira in kickboxing is not part of the story anymore. That's just history that isn't even MMA. The UFC record is 1-1 to both Pereira and Adesanya. So it is fair to have a third match if only to break the tie.

That was a great match. The first one was also a great match. There is no reason to deprive MMA fans of another great match in a second UFC rematch. Both fighters deserve it also.

If only Pereira survived those counterblows, this could have easily been a repeat of their first match. But Pereira was also the one who got saved by the bell in their first fight. A third fight is needed.

I didn't expect Adesanya to be able to win TKO from Pereira, he seemed to have prepared everything from the start, this was Adesanya's first win against Pereira, I'm sure there will be another match between the two that will take place in the next few years

Adesanya didn't just win a TKO against Pereira; he won a KO against the man who used to beat him 3 times. But it's not really unexpected. We all know how athletic, quick, and powerful Adesanya is. It could happen. You have to remember he also nearly knocked out Pereira in their first MMA match. Now, it has finally happened.

For now, the prospect of a rematch will have to be shelved. It could happen in the future though, but Dana has mentioned that Poatan might be moving to 205 after the match. So the rivalry will have to end, at least for now.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 10, 2023, 06:05:31 AM

I am in favor of a third fight of the two in the UFC. That Adesanya lost a couple of times to Pereira in kickboxing is not part of the story anymore. That's just history that isn't even MMA. The UFC record is 1-1 to both Pereira and Adesanya. So it is fair to have a third match if only to break the tie.

That was a great match. The first one was also a great match. There is no reason to deprive MMA fans of another great match in a second UFC rematch. Both fighters deserve it also.

If only Pereira survived those counterblows, this could have easily been a repeat of their first match. But Pereira was also the one who got saved by the bell in their first fight. A third fight is needed.

I didn't expect Adesanya to be able to win TKO from Pereira, he seemed to have prepared everything from the start, this was Adesanya's first win against Pereira, I'm sure there will be another match between the two that will take place in the next few years

I can say that the two of them have an eternal rivalry, apart from that Israel's Adesanya uses the "mocking" celebration that Pereira's son did to him first. really entertaining Cheesy

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on April 09, 2023, 02:24:54 AM

Quote from: robelneo on April 08, 2023, 11:56:22 PM

Adesanta just put the lights out on Alex Pereira just when Alex is pouring in Adesanya I just thought Alex is going to knock out Izzy again until Izzy did a big counter punch that puts the light out of Alex, Izzy just establish his greatness by knocking out his arch-rival this just erased all of his losses by Adesanya and this is just sweet and spectacular congratulations to both fighters for giving a great fight to all UFC fans.

I guess there's going to be a 3rd match here in the UFC.

If you look at their entire history of confrontation, this is already the fourth fight between them (two were in kickboxing and Pereira won both times). In my opinion, there is no need for a third fight here, the champion lost his title, but he returned it revenge, this can be put an end to. Adesanya is a well-deserved champion who has been going to this for a long time and has repeatedly defended his belt.

I am in favor of a third fight of the two in the UFC. That Adesanya lost a couple of times to Pereira in kickboxing is not part of the story anymore. That's just history that isn't even MMA. The UFC record is 1-1 to both Pereira and Adesanya. So it is fair to have a third match if only to break the tie.

That was a great match. The first one was also a great match. There is no reason to deprive MMA fans of another great match in a second UFC rematch. Both fighters deserve it also.

If only Pereira survived those counterblows, this could have easily been a repeat of their first match. But Pereira was also the one who got saved by the bell in their first fight. A third fight is needed.

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Izzy won via brutal KO on round 2. I never doubt that Israel will lose in their 2nd UFC matchup, It sounds a bit funny but my decision is purely based on his movements and emotions because he is really ready to do anything just for his redemption. I'm happy to see Izzy won against Alex because he is beaten by Alex for 3 times and a row and this is his 1st time defeating Alex. What a great performance for the both fighters and they also have great sportsmanship between the 2. Hoping to see trilogy in the UFC between the two. The speech of Alex at the end of the match is so good, it actually gives me a goosebumps and he only proved that he deserved the belt again. I also made a bet to Israel so I also won on their match.

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Quote from: yazher on April 09, 2023, 05:00:25 AM

It's really an easy win for him and the loss at their first fight could have been not happened if only the referee can wait for Izzy to be knockout as well instead he stop it and it seems like Izzy was still fine. But all of that confusion has been cleared today and with some more training before this fight, Izzy was easily able to knock out Alex and it might be it, to seal their rivalry unless Alex wanted to regain his honor and wanted to request another rematch as Izzy did. The hype before this fight is really amazing and to clear every doubt about their last fight was truly a great performance by Izzy.

I won’t say it was an easy fight because the match is very close counter punching and kicking before Pereira. In fact, Izzy was already cornered after receiving a solid blow but Pereira didn’t expect the heavy counter that Izzy setup for him. I think he will not be knocked it if back down first after receiving the counter punch because he still gonna throw some punch until Izzy launch the follow up punch on his face that knock him down cold in the canvass.

Rematch is inevitable with this rivalry because both matches ended in the same manner. The current match is the opposite of what happened in the first fight which Pereira is in the unfavorable situation until he get the momentum to TKO Izzy. This is very nice main event to watch on a Sunday vacation. Shocked

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Amazing redemption story for Izzy! He worked so hard during this break in order to be 200% prepared for this fight and the style he used last night to fight and counter , was really scary for Pereira to follow and as soon as Pererira so a gap , we went for it , without having the sense that Izzy is blocking most of the shots coming into him and as soon as Izzy saw the counter timing opportunity , he switched the light off on Pereira with a majestic KO.

Now , we will get a another fight between them ? I would say this saga deserves one more fight

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Quote from: cabron on April 09, 2023, 04:44:13 AM

It looks that way, Alex thought it's going to be over already while Izzy curled to protect himself.
There must be a 3rd fight. Fans will still like to see another and Adesaanya will fight whoever comes as long as it's in this weight class.
Easy win for Adesanya believer. Him losing in their first fight didn't convince many fans that Izzy lost his will. The picks of most UFC fans are Adesanyaa.

It's really an easy win for him and the loss at their first fight could have been not happened if only the referee can wait for Izzy to be knockout as well instead he stop it and it seems like Izzy was still fine. But all of that confusion has been cleared today and with some more training before this fight, Izzy was easily able to knock out Alex and it might be it, to seal their rivalry unless Alex wanted to regain his honor and wanted to request another rematch as Izzy did. The hype before this fight is really amazing and to clear every doubt about their last fight was truly a great performance by Izzy.

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Quote from: aioc on April 09, 2023, 03:47:48 AM

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If you look at their entire history of confrontation, this is already the fourth fight between them (two were in kickboxing and Pereira won both times). In my opinion, there is no need for a third fight here, the champion lost his title, but he returned it revenge, this can be put an end to. Adesanya is a well-deserved champion who has been going to this for a long time and has repeatedly defended his belt.

But if they fight again I'm sure it will still attract attention, but Pereira will still have to make a comeback fight against other top fighters in that division before challenging Adesanya again or he can opt to move to the higher division like the Light heavyweight division, Pereira's carelessness puts him in trouble he was caught by surprise by that straight right, he thought he hurt Adesanya again, neglecting his defense and bringing his defense down.
I'm sure this is not going to be their last meeting because Pereira still had 2 wins up against Adesanya but let's see if they will announce a third match in UFC.

It looks that way, Alex thought it's going to be over already while Izzy curled to protect himself.
There must be a 3rd fight. Fans will still like to see another and Adesaanya will fight whoever comes as long as it's in this weight class.

Easy win for Adesanya believer. Him losing in their first fight didn't convince many fans that Izzy lost his will. The picks of most UFC fans are Adesanyaa.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on April 09, 2023, 02:24:54 AM

If you look at their entire history of confrontation, this is already the fourth fight between them (two were in kickboxing and Pereira won both times). In my opinion, there is no need for a third fight here, the champion lost his title, but he returned it revenge, this can be put an end to. Adesanya is a well-deserved champion who has been going to this for a long time and has repeatedly defended his belt.

But if they fight again I'm sure it will still attract attention, but Pereira will still have to make a comeback fight against other top fighters in that division before challenging Adesanya again or he can opt to move to the higher division like the Light heavyweight division, Pereira's carelessness puts him in trouble he was caught by surprise by that straight right, he thought he hurt Adesanya again, neglecting his defense and bringing his defense down.
I'm sure this is not going to be their last meeting because Pereira still had 2 wins up against Adesanya but let's see if they will announce a third match in UFC.

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What a fight! Alex Pereira was on his way to deal the same damaging strikes on Israel Adesanya before that successful desperate counterattack. I don't know if Poatan lost focus and got over-excited when he was able to connect and then corner Adesanya but he dropped his guards and that cost him that fight. The Style Bender has quicker hands and Poatan paid heavily.

The status is now 1-3 in favor of Poatan. Another match might happen soon. If Poatan somehow managed to win this fight, I don't think there is a fifth fight just like when he mentioned that he is closing the series after his 4th win which failed to materialize.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 08, 2023, 11:56:22 PM

Adesanta just put the lights out on Alex Pereira just when Alex is pouring in Adesanya I just thought Alex is going to knock out Izzy again until Izzy did a big counter punch that puts the light out of Alex, Izzy just establish his greatness by knocking out his arch-rival this just erased all of his losses by Adesanya and this is just sweet and spectacular congratulations to both fighters for giving a great fight to all UFC fans.

I guess there's going to be a 3rd match here in the UFC.

If you look at their entire history of confrontation, this is already the fourth fight between them (two were in kickboxing and Pereira won both times). In my opinion, there is no need for a third fight here, the champion lost his title, but he returned it revenge, this can be put an end to. Adesanya is a well-deserved champion who has been going to this for a long time and has repeatedly defended his belt.

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Adesanta just put the lights out on Alex Pereira just when Alex is pouring in Adesanya I just thought Alex is going to knock out Izzy again until Izzy did a big counter punch that puts the light out of Alex, Izzy just establish his greatness by knocking out his arch-rival this just erased all of his losses by Adesanya and this is just sweet and spectacular congratulations to both fighters for giving a great fight to all UFC fans.

I guess there's going to be a 3rd match here in the UFC.

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While checking the different book makers odds for these main card matches, I see the odds have changed but slightly but they have changed over the course of the day.
Adesanya is 1.79x odds on some books and even Gilbert Burns is 1.25x now from when I checked his odds it was 1.22x odds.
So very slight yes but if you bet big like I am on the main card bouts, it does make a difference.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on April 08, 2023, 10:13:36 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on April 08, 2023, 08:26:35 AM

I am a big fan of Israel Adesanya and it breaks my heart to see him in this dire situation, I consider this a dire situation because he is down 3-0 and a loss will shut him off in the UFC all-time greats, 4-0 from one fighter is ugly for a great fighter.
Surprisingly Izzy is the favorite here and I see him also as the favorite to win the fight on his last two losses to Alex he has a wide margin and in their last meeting Izzy was up 3-1 until that left hook in the last round he is winning the fight and just needs on to hold to defend the title.

The career record of Adesanya was 23-2-0 and his recent loss to Pereira is just his second loss prior to his first loss to Jan when he attempted a higher weight class. Adesanya is on 3 win streak when he was beaten by Pereira last year and he will be 2-0 on his career once he loss again.

But I agree that his career will be wrecked once he loses to the same man twice in a row in pursuit for redeeming his belt again. I don’t know if he will still have a career in case he failed to revenge this time.

Adesanya Record: https://www.espn.ph/mma/fighter/_/id/4285679/israel-adesanya

Thank you for clearing that out. It's titled Adesanya versus Pereira 2 for a reason.
But you are correct, losing to one fighter in a row will create a bad image. I mean, just take a look at Kamaru Usman now. He may have lost a lot of fans after being defeated twice by Leon Edwards and then there's the negative mental effect on every fighter which is a normal thing to happen because they will lose confidence in their skills.
This is a must-win fight for Adesanya so I will be rooting for him. It doesn't matter if Pereira comes back prepared because we will see a complete Adesanya in 3 hours who will be throwing everything he got without any hesitation.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 08, 2023, 08:26:35 AM

I am a big fan of Israel Adesanya and it breaks my heart to see him in this dire situation, I consider this a dire situation because he is down 3-0 and a loss will shut him off in the UFC all-time greats, 4-0 from one fighter is ugly for a great fighter.

I have been telling this in the main UFC thread about Israel Adesanya mocking Alex Pereira even before Adesanya became a champion during an interview and that actually motivated Alex Pereira to start MMA and then sign with the UFC. So Israel Adesanya asked for this one Cheesy

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 08, 2023, 08:26:35 AM

Surprisingly Izzy is the favorite here and I see him also as the favorite to win the fight on his last two losses to Alex he has a wide margin and in their last meeting Izzy was up 3-1 until that left hook in the last round he is winning the fight and just needs on to hold to defend the title.

Alex have crazy knockout power and that is what makes him dangerous. I wont be surprised if Alex Pereira starts wrestling in this fight to make a point and frustrates Adesanya Grin

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