Germany still demands it's gold reserve back (as does France).
It was Russia who defeated the Nazi Germany. And how did the US got to keep all the gold?
and they are getting it back now.. slowly and cost expensive...
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It was Russia who defeated the Nazi Germany. And how did the US got to keep all the gold?
and they are getting it back now.. slowly and cost expensive...
Russia has a great interest in having a destabilised country for a neighbour, for just long enough to take advantage of the destabilisation to take over the country.
That logic fails. By taking a destabilised state and incorporating it into your own country, you take all the instability, which would undermine your country from within. Russia is interested in a neutral, stable buffer state. That's one of the reasons Russia was subsidising gas and giving grants (not loans) to Ukraine. This is also the reason why Russia now pushes for constitutional reforms so that Ukraine becomes a federation, which should keep the interests of both Eastern and Western regions in balance. And Russia is prepared to give financial help to Ukraine (again) once a legitimate government is formed.
Well not true at all... Destabilize one country and that it is a USA way for decades now. Destabilize economy, industry, military, education system, health care, food production and just take over that country by promising better things if that country takes credits. If Russia takes gold from Ukraine then it will have leverage considering gold is high rated commodity in IMF and gives lots of votes + selling gold gives you cash to pay your debts, if Ukraine isnt able to due that Russia would have advantage in taking over key industry points.
http://tavernkeepers.com/report-ukraine-gold-sent-to-america/
If this is true, then we should expect the 'liberation' of some other countries as well. Who might they be? Quote
Later, the editors were called by one of the senior officials of the former Ministry of Income and Fees, who reported that, according to him, tonight on the orders of one of the “new leaders” of Ukraine, all the gold reserves of the Ukraine were taken to the United States.
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After two days of hectoring the U.S. State Department by telephone and e-mail, and doing so as a newspaper editor, your secretary/treasurer today recruited his U.S. representative’s office to try to extract from State an answer to the question of whether the U.S. government has taken custody of Ukraine’s gold reserves
Russia has a great interest in having a destabilised country for a neighbour, for just long enough to take advantage of the destabilisation to take over the country.
That logic fails. By taking a destabilised state and incorporating it into your own country, you take all the instability, which would undermine your country from within. Russia is interested in a neutral, stable buffer state. That's one of the reasons Russia was subsidising gas and giving grants (not loans) to Ukraine. This is also the reason why Russia now pushes for constitutional reforms so that Ukraine becomes a federation, which should keep the interests of both Eastern and Western regions in balance. And Russia is prepared to give financial help to Ukraine (again) once a legitimate government is formed.
Russia has a great interest in having a destabilised country for a neighbour, for just long enough to take advantage of the destabilisation to take over the country.
I doubt that. No nation wants a failed state to be its neighbor. Russia just wants NATO to keep its bases away from Ukraine. I think that is Putin's main concern about the recent events in Ukraine.
Considering Russia did occupied Hungary after WW2 and build ( well rebuild it ), started projects like underground transport system, and other projects I still think Russia has a big influence there and would get gold or at least some part of it....
There is one big difference. Russia would have gotten the gold out of Hungary to return it to Ukrainian vaults as Russia has no interest in having a destabilised country for it's neighbour.
Russia has a great interest in having a destabilised country for a neighbour, for just long enough to take advantage of the destabilisation to take over the country.
Considering Russia did occupied Hungary after WW2 and build ( well rebuild it ), started projects like underground transport system, and other projects I still think Russia has a big influence there and would get gold or at least some part of it....
There is one big difference. Russia would have gotten the gold out of Hungary to return it to Ukrainian vaults as Russia has no interest in having a destabilised country for it's neighbour. With the gold looted to US, it's gone from Ukrainian vaults for good.
Considering Russia did occupied Hungary after WW2 and build ( well rebuild it ), started projects like underground transport system, and other projects I still think Russia has a big influence there and would get gold or at least some part of it....
While on the topic of gold. Last I read, there are some priceless Scythian gold artefacts sitting in Holland they were on loan for a special exhibition, organised shortly before the unrest turned violent, with items coming from 4 Crimean and 1 Ukrainian museums. Not recognising Crimea, Holland refused to return the items.
One would think that it would be natural to return those artefacts to the respective museums whence they come from.
And it's not just about gold:
One would think that it would be natural to return those artefacts to the respective museums whence they come from.
And it's not just about gold:
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Ukraine will never see one dollar of the IMF money. What the IMF is going to do is to substitute Ukrainian indebtedness to the IMF for Ukrainian indebtedness to Western banks. The IMF will hand over the money to the Western banks, and the Western banks will reduce Ukraine’s indebtedness by the amount of IMF money. Instead of being indebted to the banks, Ukraine will now be indebted to the IMF”…
(Note: With the help of the EU and the US, a central banker allied with the West is now the President of the Ukraine. His name is: Oleksandr Turchynov).
(Note: With the help of the EU and the US, a central banker allied with the West is now the President of the Ukraine. His name is: Oleksandr Turchynov).
they will never get it back.
The chances are so. I don't understand the need to take the gold to the US. If they were fearful of a Russian invasion, then they could take the gold to some of the neighboring nations, such as Hungary or Slovakia.
I bet the trouble in Ukraine was a secret operation by the US government. I saw on TV a few days ago. US government hired mercenary to create problem in Ukraine.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/russia-claims-american-mercenaries-are-eastern-ukraine-n74571
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576490/Are-Blackwater-active-Ukraine-Videos-spark-talk-U-S-mercenary-outfit-deployed-Donetsk.html
Germany still demands it's gold reserve back (as does France).
It was Russia who defeated the Nazi Germany. And how did the US got to keep all the gold?
Germany still demands it's gold reserve back (as does France). Germany got some golden bars, that didn't have German seal on them, after Lybian gold got hauled over to US. Chances are, Germany will get more gold "repatriated" in freshly re-cast Ukrainian gold.
Fat chance of getting any of it back. The US will classify it as holocaust repatriation payments and keep it in the federal reserve.
they will never get it back.
The chances are so. I don't understand the need to take the gold to the US. If they were fearful of a Russian invasion, then they could take the gold to some of the neighboring nations, such as Hungary or Slovakia.
Germany still demands it's gold reserve back (as does France). Germany got some golden bars, that didn't have German seal on them, after Lybian gold got hauled over to US. Chances are, Germany will get more gold "repatriated" in freshly re-cast Ukrainian gold.
they will never get it back.
The chances are so. I don't understand the need to take the gold to the US. If they were fearful of a Russian invasion, then they could take the gold to some of the neighboring nations, such as Hungary or Slovakia.
they will never get it back.
http://tavernkeepers.com/report-ukraine-gold-sent-to-america/
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Later, the editors were called by one of the senior officials of the former Ministry of Income and Fees, who reported that, according to him, tonight on the orders of one of the “new leaders” of Ukraine, all the gold reserves of the Ukraine were taken to the United States.
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After two days of hectoring the U.S. State Department by telephone and e-mail, and doing so as a newspaper editor, your secretary/treasurer today recruited his U.S. representative’s office to try to extract from State an answer to the question of whether the U.S. government has taken custody of Ukraine’s gold reserves
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