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Well the UN didn't mention that he freed the older prisoners from jail.

President of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte has reportedly offering executive clemency to 127 inmates across the country.

Duterte, dubbed 'The Punisher', was warned by a Senator he will be held accountable for his alleged extrajudicial killings during the President's anti-drug campaign.

However, in the meantime Duterte took a trip to National 'Bilibid' Prison in Muntinlupa city, with reports claiming the President released 127 inmates across the country under the recommendation of the Department of Justice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4289346/Punisher-releases-sick-elderly-prisoners.html

It's good to hear that he is offering executive clemency to old inmates. However, more old inmates still die in the prison, and they are not in the national penitentiary. Most of them die even before the judges makes a decision about their cases.

I wonder if those mobile trial court still exist today, and if it does, I guess it's not effective as there are so many prisons with pending cases, and prisons with influences and with big money ends up outside the prison because their victims are pushed to just end up with settlement.

If I remember accurately, the issue is that the judicial system is backlogged there are too many cases for too few judges and the problem is compounded with the drug war, which impacts police/legal the most. Also similar to the West if you can afford it you can delay it and get away from being charged.

In addition former governments corrupted the courts and that is leading to serious scrutiny
http://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Philippines/sub5_6f/entry-3913.html#chapter-3.

"Judicial institutions in the Philippines are regarded as weak and corrupt and notoriously slow. Skilled lawyers can get their clients off of most charges by bogging down the system with a flood of documents, motions and counter motions and then files for dismissal because their client has been denied the right to a speedy trial. Philippine law calls for compassion for people over 70.

 For poor people the justice system operates quite differently than it does for the wealthy and elite. They are most often represented by overworked public defenders who advise their clients to plead guilty to hasten the process and hopefully get off with a light sentence. In many places a system of patronage exists in which justice is defined as having enough money to buy yourself out of any fix."

It is why when people go to write the Bar it makes live news because they want to see more people pass and practice law fairly recall seeing it on CNN Philippines back then.
http://www.rappler.com/nation/151447-photos-bar-exams-2016
http://news.mb.com.ph/2016/11/05/advisory-manila-road-closure-rerouting-for-2016-bar-exams/

Here people write the Bar and there is not any notable media coverage perhaps a footnote in the paper there its a traffic issue ^^.

UN now slams them for the death penalty bill.
http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Nation&title=un-official-slams-anew-phl-drugs-war-in-report&id=141993

Meanwhile said Drug Dealer the opposition in the UN note has her court case set for April 21 that will be worth getting out the popcorn.
Corruption everywhere drug dealers, money, politics and prison if anything the Philippines has a nice set of drama similar to Korea and Former President Park.
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/10/17/de-lima-drug-case-hearing-reset-to-april-21

(Thug Life)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2i62nl
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Well the UN didn't mention that he freed the older prisoners from jail.

President of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte has reportedly offering executive clemency to 127 inmates across the country.

Duterte, dubbed 'The Punisher', was warned by a Senator he will be held accountable for his alleged extrajudicial killings during the President's anti-drug campaign.

However, in the meantime Duterte took a trip to National 'Bilibid' Prison in Muntinlupa city, with reports claiming the President released 127 inmates across the country under the recommendation of the Department of Justice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4289346/Punisher-releases-sick-elderly-prisoners.html

It's good to hear that he is offering executive clemency to old inmates. However, more old inmates still die in the prison, and they are not in the national penitentiary. Most of them die even before the judges makes a decision about their cases.

I wonder if those mobile trial court still exist today, and if it does, I guess it's not effective as there are so many prisons with pending cases, and prisons with influences and with big money ends up outside the prison because their victims are pushed to just end up with settlement.


If you are going to analyze this kind of situation, you can know what will be the answer or why did other people die. We know how bad or the impact of drugs on our own daily lives. We should not comprised those things. We must not agree or we must think what will be the purpose of judicial killings. We must end those drug dealers, or those judicial killings has positive effects on those who uses drugs. We should participate on this, to eliminate those drug dealers and users.
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Well the UN didn't mention that he freed the older prisoners from jail.

President of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte has reportedly offering executive clemency to 127 inmates across the country.

Duterte, dubbed 'The Punisher', was warned by a Senator he will be held accountable for his alleged extrajudicial killings during the President's anti-drug campaign.

However, in the meantime Duterte took a trip to National 'Bilibid' Prison in Muntinlupa city, with reports claiming the President released 127 inmates across the country under the recommendation of the Department of Justice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4289346/Punisher-releases-sick-elderly-prisoners.html

It's good to hear that he is offering executive clemency to old inmates. However, more old inmates still die in the prison, and they are not in the national penitentiary. Most of them die even before the judges makes a decision about their cases.

I wonder if those mobile trial court still exist today, and if it does, I guess it's not effective as there are so many prisons with pending cases, and prisons with influences and with big money ends up outside the prison because their victims are pushed to just end up with settlement.
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I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.
If the people trust him, then he believes that this person will fulfill all the promises and everything that he declared before the elections. As they say, we deserve those rulers whom we have chosen.

One of his major campaign promises was that he will eliminate the drug menace, at any cost. And he is doing exactly that right now. The collateral damage doesn't matter to him, as long as his supporters remain happy with his work.
And who knows satisfied his supporters or not. I understand that they have no one asks. If they are not happy then they will be accused of links with drug trafficking, and the same shot on the street as drug dealers.

Which is perfectly fine. What kind of person would prefer good health of a drug dealer before children - often first victims of said criminals.

Since rest of the world did not invent some magical method how to deal with drug problem and trafficking, perhaps it should just shut up, so Phillipinos have chance at making their own country safe again.

Just my two cents.
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I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.
If the people trust him, then he believes that this person will fulfill all the promises and everything that he declared before the elections. As they say, we deserve those rulers whom we have chosen.

One of his major campaign promises was that he will eliminate the drug menace, at any cost. And he is doing exactly that right now. The collateral damage doesn't matter to him, as long as his supporters remain happy with his work.

Exactly, this is one of his campaign promises however, the Philippines did not know the extend of the current drug problems that the society is facing. Only when Duterte elected as Philippine President, the full picture has surfaced. The second phase of his drug war will start soon but with different approach, but I think the outcome will still be the same, a lot of collateral damage, extra -judicial killings but no condemnation because the people of the Philippines likes what he is doing.
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I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.
If the people trust him, then he believes that this person will fulfill all the promises and everything that he declared before the elections. As they say, we deserve those rulers whom we have chosen.

One of his major campaign promises was that he will eliminate the drug menace, at any cost. And he is doing exactly that right now. The collateral damage doesn't matter to him, as long as his supporters remain happy with his work.
And who knows satisfied his supporters or not. I understand that they have no one asks. If they are not happy then they will be accused of links with drug trafficking, and the same shot on the street as drug dealers.
legendary
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Well the UN didn't mention that he freed the older prisoners from jail.

President of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte has reportedly offering executive clemency to 127 inmates across the country.

Duterte, dubbed 'The Punisher', was warned by a Senator he will be held accountable for his alleged extrajudicial killings during the President's anti-drug campaign.

However, in the meantime Duterte took a trip to National 'Bilibid' Prison in Muntinlupa city, with reports claiming the President released 127 inmates across the country under the recommendation of the Department of Justice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4289346/Punisher-releases-sick-elderly-prisoners.html
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I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.
If the people trust him, then he believes that this person will fulfill all the promises and everything that he declared before the elections. As they say, we deserve those rulers whom we have chosen.

One of his major campaign promises was that he will eliminate the drug menace, at any cost. And he is doing exactly that right now. The collateral damage doesn't matter to him, as long as his supporters remain happy with his work.
legendary
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Duterte is doing a job no one else had the guts to do.
Fix the country, weed out the corruption and remove and reduce the influence of drug cartels.
The country was far more dangerous with the cartels in operation.
Motorcycle shootings and assassinations were common plus Moro and pre-isis factions in Mindanao.

Shabu shabu and the poverty leading to serious drug addictions which are directly correlated with people having a rough time living in the shanty towns. It is the privileges we take for granted in the West security and safety that are a luxury they do not have.
Rather the people who are rich live in gated communities with security guards, the poor have to make do.
In order to make the country safer a tough hand needs to be played Duterte still has the support for it and for good reason.
http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/02/25/president-duterte-support-luneta-davao-cebu.html

I Slam the UN for preaching to the choir this needs to be done for the development of the country.
What they need to do is help support rehabilitation by giving monetary aid and personnel support to reduce the need of imprisoning and killing people instead of treating them.


I kind of like how they made Duterte a playboy though on US TV. No Hillary for president so have the Duterte actor pretend to be attracted to Clinton and harassing Hillary I mean (Madam Secretary) so they can punch Duterte (aka the actor in the face) instead no blatant propagnda here folks  Roll Eyes
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/03/08/1679085/manila-protests-us-tv-dramas-portrayal-philippine-president

More UN press release coming because the Congress of the Philippines has already passed the Death Penalty restoring it after being suspended in 2006. This is one of Duterte promise once he become President and made sure it was gonna passed. the restoration of capital punishment underlines the Duterte administration’s goal to reduce illegal drug-related criminality.

I'm pretty sure that Human's right group and UN will be once again criticize the President of the Philippines for this.

legendary
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Duterte is doing a job no one else had the guts to do.
Fix the country, weed out the corruption and remove and reduce the influence of drug cartels.
The country was far more dangerous with the cartels in operation.
Motorcycle shootings and assassinations were common plus Moro and pre-isis factions in Mindanao.

Shabu shabu and the poverty leading to serious drug addictions which are directly correlated with people having a rough time living in the shanty towns. It is the privileges we take for granted in the West security and safety that are a luxury they do not have.
Rather the people who are rich live in gated communities with security guards, the poor have to make do.
In order to make the country safer a tough hand needs to be played Duterte still has the support for it and for good reason.
http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/02/25/president-duterte-support-luneta-davao-cebu.html

I Slam the UN for preaching to the choir this needs to be done for the development of the country.
What they need to do is help support rehabilitation by giving monetary aid and personnel support to reduce the need of imprisoning and killing people instead of treating them.


I kind of like how they made Duterte a playboy though on US TV. No Hillary for president so have the Duterte actor pretend to be attracted to Clinton and harassing Hillary I mean (Madam Secretary) so they can punch Duterte (aka the actor in the face) instead no blatant propagnda here folks  Roll Eyes
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/03/08/1679085/manila-protests-us-tv-dramas-portrayal-philippine-president
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I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.
If the people trust him, then he believes that this person will fulfill all the promises and everything that he declared before the elections. As they say, we deserve those rulers whom we have chosen.
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Tell this to the opposition senators who got booted by a bible-quoting, anti-gay, pro-death penalty part-time boxer part-time senator. Cheesy



What's irritating is he only seem to be that popular because his followers tend to be more fanatical. 38% of total votes is hardly majority but when they talk to critics they use phrases like "we the majority wanted him to be president". His fanatics (and those who oppose them) are  really just a small segment, the rest of the population is just ambivalent - just like we've always been towards politicians.
His fanatics is more like a cult now, they are sharing the same idea, and keep on using it when someone is against them, but if you ask them explanation, all they can say is they are tired of the previous administration, you are an anti poor, you are a yellowtard, or worst, they will curse you. Cheesy

But I do believe that all of this will have an end.

With regards to UN, I think it's normal.

Very good. President Rodrigo Duterte.

And what makes him very good?  Smiley
Well of course. But for whom? Would you like to get shot on the street? Never good things you can't do bad techniques. The law can be maintained only by the law.
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Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.

Censorship is everywhere, even in the United States. And as far as I know, Duterte is not actively purging his opponents or the media. So I won't say that he is crossing the limit right now. But we don't know what will happen in the future.

Tell this to the opposition senators who got booted by a bible-quoting, anti-gay, pro-death penalty part-time boxer part-time senator. Cheesy


I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.

He is a good actor. He rides on what the mass wants him to do and probably it will end up again in that "Fnck you" if someone criticized his decision again. It's more like he thinks that it's better that clandestine news should only be there, and anyone who wants to criticize are not welcome.

Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.

What's irritating is he only seem to be that popular because his followers tend to be more fanatical. 38% of total votes is hardly majority but when they talk to critics they use phrases like "we the majority wanted him to be president". His fanatics (and those who oppose them) are  really just a small segment, the rest of the population is just ambivalent - just like we've always been towards politicians.
This is a problem of democracy. Always an active minority can change the situation in the country and not always for the better. It's not an excuse that the majority has an ambivalent position. All will suffer and there is a shared responsibility at all.

I think all the propaganda wars from both sides now is to try to mobilize that 62% for their own goals. It's sickening really. They're courting disaster. Once those people finally get enough, they'll all have their heads on the guillotine.
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Tell this to the opposition senators who got booted by a bible-quoting, anti-gay, pro-death penalty part-time boxer part-time senator. Cheesy



What's irritating is he only seem to be that popular because his followers tend to be more fanatical. 38% of total votes is hardly majority but when they talk to critics they use phrases like "we the majority wanted him to be president". His fanatics (and those who oppose them) are  really just a small segment, the rest of the population is just ambivalent - just like we've always been towards politicians.
His fanatics is more like a cult now, they are sharing the same idea, and keep on using it when someone is against them, but if you ask them explanation, all they can say is they are tired of the previous administration, you are an anti poor, you are a yellowtard, or worst, they will curse you. Cheesy

But I do believe that all of this will have an end.

With regards to UN, I think it's normal.

Very good. President Rodrigo Duterte.

And what makes him very good?  Smiley
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Very good. President Rodrigo Duterte.
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Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.

Censorship is everywhere, even in the United States. And as far as I know, Duterte is not actively purging his opponents or the media. So I won't say that he is crossing the limit right now. But we don't know what will happen in the future.

Tell this to the opposition senators who got booted by a bible-quoting, anti-gay, pro-death penalty part-time boxer part-time senator. Cheesy


I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.

He is a good actor. He rides on what the mass wants him to do and probably it will end up again in that "Fnck you" if someone criticized his decision again. It's more like he thinks that it's better that clandestine news should only be there, and anyone who wants to criticize are not welcome.

Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.

What's irritating is he only seem to be that popular because his followers tend to be more fanatical. 38% of total votes is hardly majority but when they talk to critics they use phrases like "we the majority wanted him to be president". His fanatics (and those who oppose them) are  really just a small segment, the rest of the population is just ambivalent - just like we've always been towards politicians.
This is a problem of democracy. Always an active minority can change the situation in the country and not always for the better. It's not an excuse that the majority has an ambivalent position. All will suffer and there is a shared responsibility at all.
hero member
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Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.

Censorship is everywhere, even in the United States. And as far as I know, Duterte is not actively purging his opponents or the media. So I won't say that he is crossing the limit right now. But we don't know what will happen in the future.

Tell this to the opposition senators who got booted by a bible-quoting, anti-gay, pro-death penalty part-time boxer part-time senator. Cheesy


I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.

He is a good actor. He rides on what the mass wants him to do and probably it will end up again in that "Fnck you" if someone criticized his decision again. It's more like he thinks that it's better that clandestine news should only be there, and anyone who wants to criticize are not welcome.

Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.

What's irritating is he only seem to be that popular because his followers tend to be more fanatical. 38% of total votes is hardly majority but when they talk to critics they use phrases like "we the majority wanted him to be president". His fanatics (and those who oppose them) are  really just a small segment, the rest of the population is just ambivalent - just like we've always been towards politicians.
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Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.

Censorship is everywhere, even in the United States. And as far as I know, Duterte is not actively purging his opponents or the media. So I won't say that he is crossing the limit right now. But we don't know what will happen in the future.
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I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.

He is a good actor. He rides on what the mass wants him to do and probably it will end up again in that "Fnck you" if someone criticized his decision again. It's more like he thinks that it's better that clandestine news should only be there, and anyone who wants to criticize are not welcome.

Looks like Philippines are nearing into like North Korea and other countries who censor news in and out.
legendary
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I doubt this will make any difference, considering how he really can't take criticisms. The only surprising thing is that I haven't seen him going on a "fuck you all!" spree yet. That or I haven't been watching the news. Or maybe they've finally learned. They removed the guy whose name must not be spoken from public appearances. Being confrontational when people are asking clarifications (especially since everyone in the damn palace contradict each other) is not a good approach.

He never listens to anyone. And trust me, he can afford to do that as long as he enjoys widespread popular support. If you remember, he used the same tactics even when he was serving as the Mayor of Davao.
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