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legendary
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October 13, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
#34
how the fuck was he unarmed if he shot at the policeman

Where in the article does it say that?

The officer chased the man, an altercation ensued and the man fired at the officer, the police chief said. The officer returned fire and killed the man, who was 18.
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October 13, 2014, 10:55:57 PM
#33
how the fuck was he unarmed if he shot at the policeman

Where in the article does it say that?
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
October 13, 2014, 11:12:16 AM
#32


And these guys are trained marksmen? Professionals even? I thought they had to pass tests in order to participate, as well as demonstrate continuing competence over the course of employment.
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A lot of people think this. In fact most urban cops shoot very little and when they do they shoot in some cramped indoor range. If you are a serious amateur then you know I would not be bragging to say I shoot way better than most cops. My dad was a cop (St. Louis county). Even as a kid I shot better than almost all his cop friends.
The secret is trigger time. I shoot a few hundred rounds a week. A typical cop may take 6 months to shoot that much.  Because cops do not use their guns much at all, they do not need to practice all that much. A cop's pen, or a their radio is far more useful.
legendary
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October 13, 2014, 12:19:14 AM
#31
However, police are more likely to shoot black unarmed teens than armed white rednecks.

That might be true. But there are valid reasons for that as well. Most of the home invasions / store robberies in urban areas are carried out by armed black youth. So the police officers view all of them with suspicion.
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October 12, 2014, 11:25:38 PM
#30
Awful stuff here...

I wish people would wake up and realize how terrible our police is becoming.
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October 12, 2014, 08:06:41 PM
#29
Awful stuff here...
legendary
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October 12, 2014, 07:36:14 PM
#28

Not sure I'd blame protesters. They aren't doing much rioting. Reporters broke the camel's back and maybe should be brought up on charges for being so irresponsible and greedy, but it's clearly part of something bigger which just needed a tiny spark to set off. Parents insisting he had only some type of bullet-firing sandwich didn't help, either... -but people are clearly looking for some kind of responsible leaders on this who can cause the sparks and bring the change they want instead of letting faux reporters and shootings set off uncontrolled & undisciplined responses. The LA riots are still well-known - so like with Vietnam, people are going to scrutinize anything done now looking for parallels -- there's no place for violence in causing change for the better right now. They seem like they have a lot of pent up anger at what's happening but've been disenfranchised and became cynical in the old leadership structures in the black community which lacks any catalyzing figure or progress they can feel. The media establishment pushes toothless profiteers like Al Sharpton, but the responses seen, especially in Ferguson, makes it clear these kinds of people are utterly ineffective. Obama's probably the best leader the black community is being given right now, but he really can't connect to people and catalyze movements the way someone on the outside could and I'd argue he lacks credibility, now. I'd guess he would've been a much more effective leader as a senator and could've had a lasting legacy, maybe even a national day.

-But what the Hell do I know about this?

Kluge gets it  Grin

You can sit with us.
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October 12, 2014, 01:29:11 PM
#27
However, police are more likely to shoot black unarmed teens than armed white rednecks.

So... you are less likely to get shot if you have the means to defend yourself.

Is there some kind of reward we can give you for sharing this valuable information?

The best reward you can give me is spreading awareness. Talk back to the anti-gun social democrat movement.

Meh... I don't think the anti-gun social democrat movement is interested in anything I have to say. I'll just continue to own and carry firearms instead.

Sorry I couldn't be of greater assistance!

Appealing to emotion is the oldest tactic in politics. Every gun control ad has children on them. Every "counter-terrorist security measure" (euphemism for illegal searches) notice has Airplanes or tall buildings drawn on it, subliminal messaging.
donator
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October 12, 2014, 12:37:34 PM
#26
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White off-duty St Louis police officer shoots dead black teenager

How to make money as a reporter 101

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sensationalism (sɛnˈseɪʃənəˌlɪzəm)
n
1. the use of sensational language, etc, to arouse an intense emotional response

Emotional response (ITC racism) -> more views -> more holla holla get dolla from advertisers

May the rioters and their victims be damned.
Not sure I'd blame protesters. They aren't doing much rioting. Reporters broke the camel's back and maybe should be brought up on charges for being so irresponsible and greedy, but it's clearly part of something bigger which just needed a tiny spark to set off. Parents insisting he had only some type of bullet-firing sandwich didn't help, either... -but people are clearly looking for some kind of responsible leaders on this who can cause the sparks and bring the change they want instead of letting faux reporters and shootings set off uncontrolled & undisciplined responses. The LA riots are still well-known - so like with Vietnam, people are going to scrutinize anything done now looking for parallels -- there's no place for violence in causing change for the better right now. They seem like they have a lot of pent up anger at what's happening but've been disenfranchised and became cynical in the old leadership structures in the black community which lacks any catalyzing figure or progress they can feel. The media establishment pushes toothless profiteers like Al Sharpton, but the responses seen, especially in Ferguson, makes it clear these kinds of people are utterly ineffective. Obama's probably the best leader the black community is being given right now, but he really can't connect to people and catalyze movements the way someone on the outside could and I'd argue he lacks credibility, now. I'd guess he would've been a much more effective leader as a senator and could've had a lasting legacy, maybe even a national day.

-But what the Hell do I know about this?
legendary
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October 12, 2014, 11:58:42 AM
#25
However, police are more likely to shoot black unarmed teens than armed white rednecks.

So... you are less likely to get shot if you have the means to defend yourself.

Is there some kind of reward we can give you for sharing this valuable information?

The best reward you can give me is spreading awareness. Talk back to the anti-gun social democrat movement.

Meh... I don't think the anti-gun social democrat movement is interested in anything I have to say. I'll just continue to own and carry firearms instead.

Sorry I couldn't be of greater assistance!

I agree. And further, when government tries to step in and prevent me from self-protection, here's some of the stuff I do:

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm = Trinsey v. Pagliaro - Attorneys cannot "speak" in common law trials if the one who is bringing the suit orders it. Holding from Trinsey v. Pagliaro: "An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court. He is either an attorney or a witness."

And I do it in such a way that I get some profit out of it.

Smiley
legendary
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October 12, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
#24
Look, it's the fault of the city council for not making sure that police policy is properly expounded. Police have, in the past, simply done what is reasonably right. Since there is FBI training involved these days, police are trained to do what is wrong. Now, it is up to the city council to familiarize themselves with what is going on, including police policy, and what police policy really should be, and then fire the whole police department if necessary, and restart a new one with the correct policies in place.

The people need to do something about the city council in ways that are peaceful and legal.

Smiley
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October 12, 2014, 03:48:49 AM
#23
However, police are more likely to shoot black unarmed teens than armed white rednecks.

So... you are less likely to get shot if you have the means to defend yourself.

Is there some kind of reward we can give you for sharing this valuable information?

The best reward you can give me is spreading awareness. Talk back to the anti-gun social democrat movement.
hero member
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Merit: 504
October 12, 2014, 01:22:09 AM
#22
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White off-duty St Louis police officer shoots dead black teenager

How to make money as a reporter 101

Quote
sensationalism (sɛnˈseɪʃənəˌlɪzəm)
n
1. the use of sensational language, etc, to arouse an intense emotional response

Emotional response (ITC racism) -> more views -> more holla holla get dolla from advertisers

May the rioters and their victims be damned.

As a private journalist I can confirm this is accurate.

However, police are more likely to shoot black unarmed teens than armed white rednecks.
legendary
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October 12, 2014, 01:08:08 AM
#21
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White off-duty St Louis police officer shoots dead black teenager

How to make money as a reporter 101

Quote
sensationalism (sɛnˈseɪʃənəˌlɪzəm)
n
1. the use of sensational language, etc, to arouse an intense emotional response

Emotional response (ITC racism) -> more views -> more holla holla get dolla from advertisers

May the rioters and their victims be damned.
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October 12, 2014, 01:01:51 AM
#20
Um, no. It's not safe for any citizen that comes in proximity of the police to pull out a gun and start firing in their direction. So don't do that.

You are right.

Apparently, you don't always need a gun though. Or to be able to hold one, for that matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Aiyana_Jones

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/swat-throws-grenade-in-playpen/

http://www.dmlp.org/threats/arizona-v-pataky

http://deafnn.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/deaf-man-shot-with-beanbags-at-traffic-stop-sues-modesto-police-the-modesto-bee/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_and_the_Occupy_movement

And my favorite, because I had only moved away from Charlotte about a month before this occurred,

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/officer-who-shot-young-black-man-after-he-was-in-car-acciden#2haaky6

All ages, all walks of life.

You can put your head in the sand, but that only makes your ass an easier target.




Don't cite sources you traitor. Muh Murka is perfect. If you don't like it go back to SoMUHlia!!

Also, racism is dead. Source: Fox News!!!

Don't believe me? Just look at how we got a black president (Ugh!)
legendary
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October 12, 2014, 12:59:57 AM
#19
Um, no. It's not safe for any citizen that comes in proximity of the police to pull out a gun and start firing in their direction. So don't do that.

You are right.

Apparently, you don't always need a gun though. Or to be able to hold one, for that matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Aiyana_Jones

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/swat-throws-grenade-in-playpen/

http://www.dmlp.org/threats/arizona-v-pataky

http://deafnn.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/deaf-man-shot-with-beanbags-at-traffic-stop-sues-modesto-police-the-modesto-bee/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_and_the_Occupy_movement

And my favorite, because I had only moved away from Charlotte about a month before this occurred,

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/officer-who-shot-young-black-man-after-he-was-in-car-acciden#2haaky6

All ages, all walks of life.

You can put your head in the sand, but that only makes your ass an easier target.





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October 12, 2014, 12:53:00 AM
#18
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October 11, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
#17
Is this America's Arab Spring?  Is this where it all ends?!   Huh
legendary
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October 11, 2014, 11:53:43 PM
#16
And these guys are trained marksmen? Professionals even? I thought they had to pass tests in order to participate, as well as demonstrate continuing competence over the course of employment.
First of all, no, police don't normally receive much training in marksmanship, and very few are actually professional shooters. Secondly, and more importantly, the targets at the shooting range don't shoot back. That does make a bit of a difference.

It will be vindicating, but sad when everyone realizes this isn't a race issue at all. This is a class issue. You may fare a little worse statistically if you are a minority, but as events like this become increasingly more common, one can't help but wonder if it's safe for any citizen that comes in proximity of the police.
Um, no. It's not safe for any citizen that comes in proximity of the police to pull out a gun and start firing in their direction. So don't do that.
legendary
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October 11, 2014, 11:23:09 PM
#15
@OT,

Why is the title "unarmed teen" if the teen shot at the cop?!

Or is this the receipt for his "sandwich":

2 pieces of metal "gun shape" for bread
6 slices of full metal jacket
1 trigger
?
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