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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 27, 2023, 04:15:53 AM

Quote from: nc50lc on August 27, 2023, 03:52:05 AM

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Checking from Electrum wallet it's still showing pending (unconfirmed) and my balance still remains zero viewing my wallet from electrum wallet.
This means since is showing unconfirmed on Electrum I have to make retransfer with trustwallet maybe I would increase the fee to be able to confirm as quickly as possible.
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here balance: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qv5ewv4z2q62lkyxcszkw43kp3842xyup92mwh2
So I have initiated another transfer currently.

Since it's still unconfirmed in Electrum, the chosen server still has it in their mempool, you can't remove it and send another that spends the same input while it's like that.
As we speak, the purging fee rate recovered below 5sat/vB, but it wont stay like that.

I can't see any new unconfirmed transaction in the link in the Edit.
Have you sent using Trustwallet?
If so, your transaction may have been rejected by majority of the nodes for being a replacement of a non-rbf txn, since it didn't propagate.
It'll only be accepted by nodes with full-rbf option enabled, but it's currently the minority.

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As expected, your old 5sat/vB transaction reappeared in that link.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 27, 2023, 04:15:53 AM

Checking from Electrum wallet it's still showing pending (unconfirmed) and my balance still remains zero viewing my wallet from electrum wallet.

The node (server) you are connected to still has your old transaction it its mempool. Try to manually switch through some of the other servers in the settings > network options. Maybe you will find one that has dropped it and moved it to a local transaction that you can then cancel. If done successfully, you could then create and broadcast a transaction paying more fees.

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 27, 2023, 04:15:53 AM

This means since is showing unconfirmed on Electrum I have to make retransfer with trustwallet maybe I would increase the fee to be able to confirm as quickly as possible.

Trust Wallet created the issues in the first place because the transaction was sent without the RBF feature. If you want to try again with Trust Wallet, I would suggest the high priority fees according to Mempool.space or even one digit above.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 27, 2023, 02:47:41 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 27, 2023, 01:44:45 AM

Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts.. I viewed my wallet this morning and I noticed my balance is back with the previous amount I sent out since on 14 August.

That's good to know. But just for the record, where did you notice the change in balance? Actually, the coins being returned to your previous address? In Electrum or Trust Wallet? If the balance is back to normal, Electrum shouldn't have records of local transactions in your wallet. But just to be 100% sure, you could check that.

I viewed it from my Trustwallet the balance is back and I couldn't find the txt id anymore from Trustwallet..
That is to say; the 0.002125BTC I sent from my Trustwallet to Binance has been reversed back to my Trustwallet.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 27, 2023, 01:44:45 AM

Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts..

I take that it "reversed" in your Trust wallet, right?
The current default mempool size exceeds the size which transactions with 5sat/vB and below got dropped, yours included.
But some nodes still have it, so it might propagate again when the default purging fee rate lowers again.

This is the right time that I'm talking about in my post.
You may need to spend it right now.

Checking from Electrum wallet it's still showing pending (unconfirmed) and my balance still remains zero viewing my wallet from electrum wallet.
This means since is showing unconfirmed on Electrum I have to make retransfer with trustwallet maybe I would increase the fee to be able to confirm as quickly as possible.

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Edit
here balance: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qv5ewv4z2q62lkyxcszkw43kp3842xyup92mwh2
So I have initiated another transfer currently.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 27, 2023, 01:44:45 AM

Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts..

I take that it "reversed" in your Trust wallet, right?
The current default mempool size exceeds the size which transactions with 5sat/vB and below got dropped, yours included.
But some nodes still have it, so it might propagate again when the default purging fee rate lowers again.

This is the right time that I'm talking about in my post.
You may need to spend it right now.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 27, 2023, 01:44:45 AM

Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts.. I viewed my wallet this morning and I noticed my balance is back with the previous amount I sent out since on 14 August.

That's good to know. But just for the record, where did you notice the change in balance? Actually, the coins being returned to your previous address? In Electrum or Trust Wallet? If the balance is back to normal, Electrum shouldn't have records of local transactions in your wallet. But just to be 100% sure, you could check that.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 21, 2023, 04:13:40 PM

Your transaction is still about 30 vMB from the top, so you still have to be patient. Unfortunately, there is nothing else you can do. RBF isn't an option, you don't control the keys of the destination address, and there was no change that went back to one of your other addresses that you could take advantage of to perform a CPFP. If there was some change, a Child Pays For Parent transaction with higher fees could be used to boost the overall fee rate of both transactions.

Your best hope now is that the congestion drops of just enough to get your transaction confirmed. Alternatively, you'll have to keep an eye on the purging rate as nc50lc mentioned to cancel the transaction if Electrum and the chosen server allows it.

Okay thank you sir..
Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts.. I viewed my wallet this morning and I noticed my balance is back with the previous amount I sent out since on 14 August.
I was so much bothered about this delay.
Also I want to use this moment to thank everyone who replied me on this issues as it was something very stressful and with the kind of person I am, I was so much worry concerning the unconfirmed transaction for past 13 days though I was actually thinking my fund is lost due to my inexperienced within how the network are being operated.
But believe me I have learnt a lesson and this time if transferring I would use Electrum instead of Trustwallet.

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Your transaction is still about 30 vMB from the top, so you still have to be patient. Unfortunately, there is nothing else you can do. RBF isn't an option, you don't control the keys of the destination address, and there was no change that went back to one of your other addresses that you could take advantage of to perform a CPFP. If there was some change, a Child Pays For Parent transaction with higher fees could be used to boost the overall fee rate of both transactions.

Your best hope now is that the congestion drops of just enough to get your transaction confirmed. Alternatively, you'll have to keep an eye on the purging rate as nc50lc mentioned to cancel the transaction if Electrum and the chosen server allows it.

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Quote from: nc50lc on August 20, 2023, 10:24:29 AM

Anyways, as what I've observed, OP's transaction was once missing from some mempools (e.g.: missing in blockchain.com blockexplorer) and just became available automatically hours later.

Well, the transaction is showing in Blockchair.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/d5f80b303486f616dc02df5413520b43543b725246161c520816e51aa1f4ebf3

And I checked the sender's BTC address and the balance still shows 0 also the purging dropped down to 4sat/vbyte so most likely the transaction will stay unconfirmed until 14 days period unless the mempool congested with Txs with higher fees.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 10:00:05 AM

nc50lc, do nodes rebroadcast transactions periodically?

Periodically, maybe some clients.
Nodes? AFAIK, Bitcoin Core is known to rebroadcast wallet transactions and the contents of mempool.dat during startup, but I'm not sure if it does periodically.

Anyways, as what I've observed, OP's transaction was once missing from some mempools (e.g.: missing in blockchain.com blockexplorer) and just became available automatically hours later.
And I've seen some unconfirmed Electrum transactions that became "Local" once it gets dropped from the selected server's mempool.

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Quote from: nc50lc on August 20, 2023, 09:34:22 AM

Yes, it's rebroadcasted/propagated since mempools just got lower in size.

nc50lc, do nodes rebroadcast transactions periodically?

Let's say I have broadcasted a transaction with the fee rate of 5 sat/vbyte. The network becomes congested and nodes that are using default setting, purge any transaction with the fee rata of less than 6 sat/vbyte from their mempool. Now, some nodes still have my transaction in their mempool, but the majority have dropped my transaction.
If the network becomes less congested, will the nodes that dropped my transaction receive it again? I think that's done, only if someone rebroadcast my transaction. I don't think the transaction that is dropped from a mempool comes back to the mempool, once the purging fee rate becomes less than the fee rate of my transaction.
Correct me if I am wrong, please.

Quote from: dimonstration on August 20, 2023, 09:39:28 AM

I encounter an issue before when I import the private key of my specific address coming from my electrum wallet to Bluewallet. I send the transaction using Bluewallet but RBF feature is not available.

That's how bluewallet works. Bluewallet allows you to bump the fee only if the original transaction has been made by itself.
Generally, if a transaction has been flagged as RBF, you should be able to replace it with a new one paying higher fee. It may worth mentioning that in the case a node has enabled "Full RBF", it would accept replacing transactions, even if the original transaction hasn't been flagged as RBF.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 08:49:50 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on August 20, 2023, 08:42:48 AM

I experience this same issue on my bluewallet after I imported my private key of an address that doesn't support RBF.

It's not the address that should support RBF. Regardless of what address you are using, you can enable/disable RBF for your transaction.

I encounter an issue before when I import the private key of my specific address coming from my electrum wallet to Bluewallet. I send the transaction using Bluewallet but RBF feature is not available.

My old thread is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62655765

This is why I said the address instead of the private keys of my specific address. I think this is same case with the OP since he use Trustwallet that doesn’t support RBF and import it to Bluewallet.

Anyway, I’m no expert on this. Correct me pls.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

Quote from: nc50lc on August 20, 2023, 09:03:47 AM

Restart Electrum and check if the transaction's status changed from "unconfirmed" into "Local"; if not, select another server.

This should work. But I just created a watch-only wallet using OP's address on electrum and tried several servers. All of them still had OP's transaction in their mempool.

Yes, it's rebroadcasted/propagated since mempools just got lower in size.
That's why he should be at least active to check the purging size so he can have a chance to replace the transaction.

@SmartGold01 be sure to send a replacement with high fee rate right after removing the transaction after it turned "Local".
You have no other option aside from what I've posted in page1.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 09:13:28 AM

Quote from: nc50lc on August 20, 2023, 09:03:47 AM

Restart Electrum and check if the transaction's status changed from "unconfirmed" into "Local"; if not, select another server.

This should work. But I just created a watch-only wallet using OP's address on electrum and tried several servers. All of them still had OP's transactions in their mempool.

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 09:05:15 AM

Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it.

As already said, enabling/disabling RBF on electrum wouldn't change anything. The RBF should be enabled when you make the transaction.

I understand now.. Thank you for your guide..

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 09:05:15 AM

Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it. Actually a bit hurry to settle out some part of my loan tomorrow..
If possible please give me guideline as I have already downloaded the Electrum mobile wallet... But has not imported my wallet address over there.

I am only referring to Bluewallet and somehow off-topic to this thread discussion. Follow what nc50lc posted. I can see the purging at 5.04. You should be able to rebroadcast your transaction on Electrom desktop.

Okay..
I really want to appreciate all your support, I know I am not good in all this wallet configuration but with time I hope to understand it more better. Thank you all

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 09:05:15 AM

Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it. Actually a bit hurry to settle out some part of my loan tomorrow..
If possible please give me guideline as I have already downloaded the Electrum mobile wallet... But has not imported my wallet address over there.

I was only referring to Bluewallet and somehow off-topic to this thread discussion. Follow what nc50lc posted. I can see the purging at 5.04 sat/vbyte. You should be able to rebroadcast your transaction on desktop Electrum. If you are unable to do that, you can wait until most nodes drop the transaction from their mempool.

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Quote from: nc50lc on August 20, 2023, 09:03:47 AM

Restart Electrum and check if the transaction's status changed from "unconfirmed" into "Local"; if not, select another server.

This should work. But I just created a watch-only wallet using OP's address on electrum and tried several servers. All of them still had OP's transaction in their mempool.

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 09:05:15 AM

Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it.

As already said, enabling/disabling RBF on electrum wouldn't change anything. The RBF should be enabled when you make the transaction.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on August 20, 2023, 08:52:44 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on August 20, 2023, 08:42:48 AM

I experience this same issue on my bluewallet after I imported my private key of an address that doesn't support RBF.

Even if the private key belongs to an address on Bluewallet generated seed phrase or not, and you import the private key on another Bluewallet, any transaction made will not support RBF. But if it is BIP39 seed phrase, it will support RBF even if or if not generated on Bluewallet.

I mean as you import the private key on Bluewallet, the transaction made on the wallet will not support RBF, unlike importing BIP39 seed phrase that will support RBF.

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 08:49:50 AM

It's not the address that should support RBF. Regardless of what address you are using, you can enable RBF/disable for your transaction.

I think he meant that he imported a private key on Bluewallet.

Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it. Actually a bit hurry to settle out some part of my loan tomorrow..
If possible please give me guideline as I have already downloaded the Electrum mobile wallet... But has not imported my wallet address over there.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 08:51:43 AM

This is true I didn't enable it while make transaction, and I used trustwallet to send out the payment..

You can't enable RBF in trustwallet at all.
Trustwallet is close-source and it lacks RBF and many other features. I recommend you to avoid it and use a better wallet like electrum, so that you don't have a similar problem in the future.

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 08:51:43 AM

Exactly.. The option has been removed I can't find it since the other user posted the image..

That option has been removed, because electrum no longer allows you to make non-RBF transactions and it flags all transactions as RBF automatically.

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 08:51:43 AM

Actually have made this transfer since from on Monday there about and yet still remains unconfirmed, that means I have to wait for like 2 weeks longer just as you have said.

By default, transactions are dropped from the mempool if they stay unconfirmed 14 days. It's also possible that a transaction is dropped from the mempool earlier due to the node reaching its mempool maximum size.
As you made your transaction 6 days ago, most nodes should drop it from their mempool 8 days later. This is assuming no one will rebroadcast your transaction.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 08:06:14 AM

I will be glad any help gotten you all.

An hour ago, your transaction was purged from nodes with default mempool size configuration.
That's the best timing when you can replace it with a higher fee rate transaction.

If you're lucky, time it when the purging fee rate is higher than your txn's fee rate when your transaction was dropped from majority of the mempools including some Electrum servers.
You can check the default "Purging" fee rate in mempool.space.

When that time comes:
Restart Electrum and check if the transaction's status changed from "unconfirmed" into "Local"; if not, select another server.
Then after turning into "local", Right-click on it and select "Remove", then your coins should be available to spend on a new transaction.

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Quote from: dimonstration on August 20, 2023, 08:42:48 AM

I experience this same issue on my bluewallet after I imported my private key of an address that doesn't support RBF.

Even if the private key belongs to an address on Bluewallet generated seed phrase or not, and you import the private key on another Bluewallet, any transaction made will not support RBF. But if it is BIP39 seed phrase, it will support RBF even if or if not generated on Bluewallet.

I mean as you import the private key on Bluewallet, the transaction made on the wallet will not support RBF, unlike importing BIP39 seed phrase that will support RBF.

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 08:49:50 AM

It's not the address that should support RBF. Regardless of what address you are using, you can enable RBF/disable for your transaction.

I think he meant that he imported a private key on Bluewallet.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 08:24:24 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 08:14:30 AM

How do I enable RBF?

RBF should be enabled when you are making the transaction. There is no way to turn a non-RBF transaction to a RBF-enabled transaction.
If your transaction isn't confirmed for 14 days, it would be dropped from the mempool of most nodes and after that you should be able to make a new transaction.

This is true I didn't enable it while make transaction, and I used trustwallet to send out the payment..

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 20, 2023, 08:24:24 AM

Quote from: Shishir99 on August 20, 2023, 08:20:49 AM

Click on Tools >> Preferences >> Transactions >> Tick the Replace by Fee box

This wouldn't change anything.
And it may worth mentioning that this option has been removed from the latest version of electrum.

Exactly.. The option has been removed I can't find it since the other user posted the image..

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 20, 2023, 08:18:10 AM

I am still the same person to receive the payment, but this is going to my exchange account which is Binance.
It means the receiving end is not in your control that told by the other user. You don't have they key.

The best is for you to wait for some days and see if the mempool will become less congested and the transaction to be confirmed. Do not open Trustwallet again, just keep checking it on Electrum wallet to know if you will be able to rebroadcast the coin. After some days like 2 weeks, you should be able to rebroadcast the coins on Electrum.

Maybe this could be the best option, because I couldn't find anything as the previous users do say.
Actually have made this transfer since from on Monday there about and yet still remains unconfirmed, that means I have to wait for like 2 weeks longer just as you have said.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 20, 2023, 08:14:30 AM

I am still the same person to receive the payment, but this is going to my exchange account which is Binance.

It means the receiving end is not in your control that told by the other user. You don't have they key.

Never, is an exchange address which I have no private keys or seedphrase, sending from my Trustwallet to exchange address (Binance).

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