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legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1000
October 27, 2016, 05:23:41 PM
Either way, it seems to me that it is currently too easy for the network to get overwhelmed. We need a quicker solution than SegWit.

What's your proposal?
In the short-term, a modest increase in the block size.

Then we can see if SegWit/Lightning can be deployed soon enough for adoption not to be hurt due to lack of scalability.

Edit: Just for clarity, I'll add that I don't believe SegWit alone to be enough.

Unfortunately, your beliefs do not correspond to reality.


Segwit puts a stop to 3rd parties malforming transactions. That means that 2nd layer solutions become possible, where now, they're not. Scaling on the first layer is not going to happen, it simply isn't possible.

The way to handle the 1st layer is to choose a blocksize that represents a compromise between number of network nodes and transaction rate. We're there, right now.



Nodes are at a local low point.

Transactions are at an all time high point.


That means 1st layer is exhausted, and that any attempts to use the 1st layer to increase the transaction rate can only end in the number of Bitcoin nodes decreasing. Have you not researched any of this stuff?
Thanks for your condescending tone!

I believe the risk of not increasing the blocksize modestly (congestion) is greater than the risk of node count lowering (centralisation).

Do you believe 1MB is exactly right? If layer one is really that exhausted then surely we should lower it? I find it funny how so many people say we should not increase, but so few say we should decrease. 1MB was arbitrarily chosen after all.

Right now I see full blocks as a bigger problem than the number of nodes. 2MB or even 4MB gives us enough time for Lightning to be ready.
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legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1055
Clean Code and Scale
October 27, 2016, 02:40:43 PM
To be honest , it is starting to become annoying. each day fees change and it becomes more competitive to get a high priority so you have to pay more fees and yet there are still a huge number of unconfirmed transactions waiting to be confirmed!

Thas just the predicted fee squeeze to kick out low budget usr as spammers and yes we ve been warned about a year ago....
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
October 27, 2016, 01:31:22 PM
I think it's not the aim of bitcoin to be instant payment method.

Low fee, maybe.
Decentralized for sure.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
October 27, 2016, 12:32:31 PM
that is one of the most big problem of bitcoin, last night i wanted to recharge my mobile but it take a lot of time it really disturb me and i receive the balance on next day.
sr. member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 356
October 27, 2016, 10:14:57 AM
I had seen forum yesterday like this topic. Don't worry about your transaction problem they will not scammed your Bitcoin.
The reason why its still unconfirmed because maybe have a trouble. But they said that why still unconfirmed because; first, millions of people had registered that wallet so you could expect that in every seconds or minutes many are doing transaction, it's also because your wallet is for worldwide. If they seen your transaction it will be processing for success. So that don't worry, they will fix it. For more information just click here—https://blockchain.info/wallet/bitcoin-faq
hero member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 655
October 27, 2016, 09:34:12 AM
To be honest , it is starting to become annoying. each day fees change and it becomes more competitive to get a high priority so you have to pay more fees and yet there are still a huge number of unconfirmed transactions waiting to be confirmed!
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 250
October 27, 2016, 07:54:23 AM
Blocks are probably full due to the price increase. That move surprised all the ant colony and now everyone is rushing Grin !
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3080
October 27, 2016, 07:42:06 AM
Either way, it seems to me that it is currently too easy for the network to get overwhelmed. We need a quicker solution than SegWit.

What's your proposal?
In the short-term, a modest increase in the block size.

Then we can see if SegWit/Lightning can be deployed soon enough for adoption not to be hurt due to lack of scalability.

Edit: Just for clarity, I'll add that I don't believe SegWit alone to be enough.

Unfortunately, your beliefs do not correspond to reality.


Segwit puts a stop to 3rd parties malforming transactions. That means that 2nd layer solutions become possible, where now, they're not. Scaling on the first layer is not going to happen, it simply isn't possible.

The way to handle the 1st layer is to choose a blocksize that represents a compromise between number of network nodes and transaction rate. We're there, right now.



Nodes are at a local low point.

Transactions are at an all time high point.


That means 1st layer is exhausted, and that any attempts to use the 1st layer to increase the transaction rate can only end in the number of Bitcoin nodes decreasing. Have you not researched any of this stuff?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
October 27, 2016, 07:35:35 AM
Just got a confirmation after 16 hours and i feel lucky, lol

2 days and I'm still here, waiting for just a single confirmation, currently figuring out how to do a double spend in an android wallet. Maybe I won't bother for days or weeks, not sure how long but one thing's for certain: I would not trust dynamic fee setting of the android wallet ever again.

Dude. Try to send again another btc to the same address even it is just a small fee. This method works on me. I received immediately my funds stuck for 1 day when i send again few btc on my wallet. I hope it works on your case too.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
October 27, 2016, 07:19:11 AM
This site can be helpful to you all https://bitcoinfees.21.co/. "predicting bitcoin fees for transactions."
Hmm that site is pretty interesting. I usually go with 0.1$ fees and my transactions confirm within 20 min but site is suggesting almost double that fee for a fast transaction.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1000
October 27, 2016, 07:06:23 AM
Either way, it seems to me that it is currently too easy for the network to get overwhelmed. We need a quicker solution than SegWit.

What's your proposal?
In the short-term, a modest increase in the block size.

Then we can see if SegWit/Lightning can be deployed soon enough for adoption not to be hurt due to lack of scalability.

Edit: Just for clarity, I'll add that I don't believe SegWit alone to be enough.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
October 27, 2016, 06:52:27 AM
I had requested a withdraw from yesterday and today i waked up and my transaction, with tiny bitcoin and a fee of 20k satoshi has arrived already, soo i do believe the big issue has been clear already yesterday there were 70k transactions today there is just 20k transactions i do hope now all the transactions get confirmed as  before.
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
October 27, 2016, 06:46:28 AM
Just got a confirmation after 16 hours and i feel lucky, lol

2 days and I'm still here, waiting for just a single confirmation, currently figuring out how to do a double spend in an android wallet. Maybe I won't bother for days or weeks, not sure how long but one thing's for certain: I would not trust dynamic fee setting of the android wallet ever again.
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3080
October 27, 2016, 06:34:24 AM
Either way, it seems to me that it is currently too easy for the network to get overwhelmed. We need a quicker solution than SegWit.

What's your proposal?
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1599
October 27, 2016, 06:30:10 AM
Just got a confirmation after 16 hours and i feel lucky, lol

You have to be careful with the fees. I have spent 0.05 in only 20 transactions on fees which is a huge loss and I didn't even notice. Now I am very careful about it and I set 0.0001BTC for every transaction I do. They are usually confirmed in max 1 day.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1000
October 27, 2016, 06:27:15 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think it would be profitable enough and too time consuming for the miners to spam the network just to receive a few higher fees.

I agree to that. It's not the miners.
But I've already seen posts about double spends, for example. Some do profit from this situation and I feel like they're more than usual.
I would still like to hear a better theory for this than the possible spam attack.

It could easily be "opportunistic piggy-backing", i.e. there is a real surge in transactions taking place due to the buoyancy in the exchange rate we have right now, and a spam artist  decided to use the opportunity to increase the pressure on the mempool.
Either way, it seems to me that it is currently too easy for the network to get overwhelmed. We need a quicker solution than SegWit.
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3080
October 27, 2016, 06:22:39 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think it would be profitable enough and too time consuming for the miners to spam the network just to receive a few higher fees.

I agree to that. It's not the miners.
But I've already seen posts about double spends, for example. Some do profit from this situation and I feel like they're more than usual.
I would still like to hear a better theory for this than the possible spam attack.

It could easily be "opportunistic piggy-backing", i.e. there is a real surge in transactions taking place due to the buoyancy in the exchange rate we have right now, and a spam artist  decided to use the opportunity to increase the pressure on the mempool.
member
Activity: 61
Merit: 10
October 27, 2016, 06:22:28 AM
Just got a confirmation after 16 hours and i feel lucky, lol
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 6382
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October 27, 2016, 05:56:00 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think it would be profitable enough and too time consuming for the miners to spam the network just to receive a few higher fees.

I agree to that. It's not the miners.
But I've already seen posts about double spends, for example. Some do profit from this situation and I feel like they're more than usual.
I would still like to hear a better theory for this than the possible spam attack.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1010
https://www.bitcoin.com/
October 27, 2016, 05:29:22 AM
Who's saying that this is a spam attack?

The charts suggest that. How else could the unconfirmed tx pool jump from 2-4MB range to 40MB?
That's the current part here https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx

About a week ago there was another bottleneck, some 23MB high iirc, it took 24h to clear up, then all was nice for some days.

Somebody even suggested that miners may do such spam attacks to increase tx fees.
Shame I don't know of a better/longer history of unconfirmed transactions so I have to rely on what I remember (which is proven not to be very accurate for most people).

Do you have a better theory?
I could be wrong but I don't think it would be profitable enough and too time consuming for the miners to spam the network just to receive a few higher fees.
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