Topic: ** UNITED MINERS - ROI~30DAYS WITH ASSET OPEN MARKET ** - page 4. (Read 3915 times)

Your daily revenue is 65.000 Satoshi,
does it mean, that you already get 65.000 satoshi daily from mining? so if s.o invests 100.000 satoshi, he'll get his 125.000 in two days?
kukish

Why not? You don't to invest even 5$ into your site? Oh of course you don't want to, it's a scam.

No, no scam. Free domain, yes, why not. Poor site, yes - i prefer simplicity than colors .. pls read this thread before judge.
And feel free contact me via pm e.g. for skypecall explanation.
Regards,
admin

lol. Free domain and poor website, how obvious scam :O

Hi because I send there some aditive revenue - not from mining from investments but from ads and faucets income etc .. to start investments as "basal revenue".

Real mining revenue from mining is limit to "zero" because there are no bigger investments.

In fact, till there will be no investments, you can use it as a "faucet" .

If actualbalance is > 0 and no investments are in the queue, you can send investment and you will get 125% immediatelly after confirmation - if your payout < actualbalance.  

It's a donation..

Regards,
admin

Hey admin,
why did the first 3 investors get paid, although it's just one day, that has passed?
I mean, that are all in all 637.500 satoshi invested
1% daily = 6.375 satoshi
so it had to take at least 27 days! to pay back to the first investor (invested 137500, has to get back 171875).
could you please explain this?
Kukish

Moved to blockchain api for better transparency.
First unvestments have been paid

Hi, no it's not pyramid.. some examples:

1 user only, investment e.g. 0.01btc :
0,01btc will be invested in cloud mining services portfolio (in this case probably one service)  
it will generate e.g. 0.0001btc daily (1% daily e.g. scrypt.cc, cloudminr.io, hasflare or other without profit reinvestment)
after 125 days it will generate 0.00125btc which will be send to user asap.
result: investment 0.01btc, return 0,0125 after 125 days -- this is the worst scenario

3 users, investments e.g. 0.01btc, 0.02btc, 0.001btc:
0.031 will be invested e.g. for 1% daily
it will generate 0.00031 daily
after 42 days it will generate 0.0125btc and 1st user will be paid.
after next 80days it will generate next 0.025btc and 2nd user will be paid.
after next 4 days it will generate next 0.00125 and 3rd user will be paid.
result: 1. investment 0.01btc, return 0,0125btc after 42 days
          2. investment 0.02btc, return 0,025btc after 122 days
          3. investment 0.001btc return 0.00125btc after 126 days (it's worse only that there is no next or previous user and also that it's too small)

now imagine that the same day when 3rd user will be paid 4th user will make 0.02btc investment:
System will still generate 0,00031 daily from previous investments and 0.0002btc from 4th investment -- suma = 0.00051 daily
So 0.025/0.00051 = 49,02
result: investment 0,02btc, return 0.025btc after 50 days

In fact later investments will have better and better roi so if some service will turn to the scam, due to diversification our system will be affected only a little.

So maybe it can be call this 'UPSIDE-DOWN PYRAMID'

So yes, more investments is better mainly for later investments.


And recalculated ROIs:

1st case only 1 user - it's the same as alone mining - without us in other services.
ROI = 100 days

Users from case 2nd
1st user ROI= 34 days
2nd user ROI = 98 days
3rd user ROI = 101 days
4th user ROI = 40 days

weighted average ROI: 78 days

So with us EVERYBODY has BETTER ROI and LOWER RISK than without us --- it is the reason for UNITED MINERS name

Also we don't need to go away with your money - we will have enough also imagine that after 1year we will stop accept new investments for 1 month only

So it's not ponzi so there is no reason to be a scam

Questions?

regards,
admin

So its a pyramid scheme? 

Hi all,
please read the following

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Scam is defined as

noun
The definition of a scam is slang for a fake scheme to steal money or goods.
An example of a scam is a company that takes a person's work and never pays him.

verb
To scam is defined as to cheat people out of money.
An example of scam is to sell a product, take the money and then never deliver the product.

e.g. http://www.yourdictionary.com/scam

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I'm admin of this site and i make it for prove that this type of business can be win-win scheme.

I'm ready for discuss about this, via forum, PM, email, skype or phone. If you want - fell free to contact me.

I'm from Czech republic, Middle Europe (where scam is illegal), have software development company etc.

In fact about free domain: yes, it's free, why not? functionality is the same, investment will be short-term and in 1 year it will be gone maybe. But it doesn't mean that I will go away with your money.
Of course that here is a some risk but where not? But I will take 0 satoshi till ALL investors will be satisfied in what I belive.

And if I want try cheat you I can make next 'bitcoin doubler' not mining service..

Also in fact you can have legal UK based company (costs 1$, no documents needed), .com domain (8$, registered to this UK comp.), SSL certificate next 8$, german vps server for 4$/month..

So I can make 'REAL AND TRUSTWORTHY' site and company for cca 25$ - it's about 25 beers in my country..

But I believe that communication is all what is reason for this 'liebes briefe'..

So make your own opinion, but please don't say 'it's scam' until you have proove of it..

with regards,
Sindren, admin

  






  

Yes, cex.io is not use for cloud mining but for trading and sometimes for using as mining pool for our own and/or rented hashpower.

And i really don't know that cloudminr is a scam

admin

Seriously? I don't know how anyone buys these scams still...

"All investments from all users are invested into diversified cloud mining and trading services as CEX.IO, cloudminr.io, scrypt.cc and many more. This wide portfolio is balanced for minimalisation of the risks." Damn...  these guys don't even bother to know that Cex.io has suspended their mining services! And... worse... cloudminr.io... another known SCAM!

STAY AWAY!

No,
this site is not SCAM and/or hyip.

This domain is not used for 'mining' and or any storage of coins or data - only for proccessing payments from and to users using FIFO schema (free .dot.cf registrator and amozon ec2 tier cloud vps for site and bitcoin daemon).

Investments are sending to many cloudmining services as scrypt.cc, cloudminr.io, hashflare and many other. Income from these services and trading is distributed via this site back to users.

Investments are short term, if you pay 1btc you will get 1.25btc back. It's all. Due to FIFO schema, when 100 users invest 1btc each then 1st day 1st user get 1.25btc, 2nd day 2nd user get 1.25btc, 3rd day 3rd and 4th users get 1.25btc each etc..

But due to investing in mining cloud services this is not game and will not go to ponzi. fell free to contact me,

your admin 

cloud mining using free domain? scam alert!!!
i believe not anyone want try buy contract and invest their money in your site

due to blockchain synchronisation transaction will be visible in a few hours. You can chech them at blockchain.info now.

what is problem?  Many services with 'heavy-uber' .com domain turns to SCAMs..

So let make it better..  

.cf ?