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hero member
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May 15, 2012, 09:23:23 AM

Sure, I already said I am accepting stolen coins from the Bitcoinica hack here :

17upZsFjg6DKbHMwLpzyzqf2H9JAWTWFSC

Perfect! I used to send my coins to /dev/null, but now I know if I send them here they are 100% gone.
legendary
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May 15, 2012, 07:54:57 AM
good one bulnula, we need a sinkhole
hero member
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May 15, 2012, 07:53:37 AM
bulnula will you post a bitcoin address for anyone that needs to quickly lose bitcoins?

Sure, I already said I am accepting stolen coins from the Bitcoinica hack here :

17upZsFjg6DKbHMwLpzyzqf2H9JAWTWFSC

Notice the 17upZs part Cheesy

17 up Zhoutongs Wink
legendary
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May 15, 2012, 07:52:19 AM
bulnula will you post a bitcoin address for anyone that needs to quickly lose bitcoins?
hero member
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May 15, 2012, 07:49:18 AM
I have such a love and hate relationship with bulnula. I love that he cracks me up, I hate his scammy way of life.

Nice to hear I am here for comic relief Cheesy

Now that Maged and Raize are handling this "case" I think things will go much better.

Not to offend anyone but smart1985 and Iszaver don't know a bob of English without google translate. No wonder all the problems.

I personally couldn't understand most of their ramblings anyway.

Where is Raize's address ? Where is the PGP signed confirming the transfer from smart1985 ?

legendary
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May 15, 2012, 01:33:20 AM
I have such a love and hate relationship with bulnula. I love that he cracks me up, I hate his scammy way of life.
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May 15, 2012, 01:14:01 AM
sr. member
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I heart thebaron
May 14, 2012, 08:14:41 PM
He tried for hours to resolve the problem, but the 25 BTC suddenly appeared after hours of being called a theif,
the person with the 25 BTC sent, should of waited a day at least.

The ONLY thing he tried to resolve was a way to keep all 25 BTC for himself, rather than return the mistake/overpayment.

Face facts. You make it seem like this all took place over the course of hours or even minutes, but this took place over the course of a day or more, as Bulanula even said he was 'away for the day, busy with family'.

How can you deny receiving payment from someone, then offer to give them an extended service for the supposed BTC that his 'Aunt' might have sent ?

You can't have it both ways. Either he sent it and was given 10 months rather than a REFUND, or he didn't sent the 25 BTC in which case Bulanula is an idiot for GIVING SOMETHING AWAY FOR FREE, such as his 'service'....LMAO

You 2 might as well be the same person, because you both talk in circles and try to make excuses rather than take care of the matter at hand.

REFUND THE OVERPAYMENT AND GET IT OVER WITH.
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 07:57:59 PM
I think there is a miss understanding going on here. Read carefully, He didn't see the 25 BTC coming in his wallet for a long time,
Was called a scammer, theif before he saw the 25 BTC transaction. I once had a transaction take this long as well, it happens.

He tried for hours to resolve the problem, but the 25 BTC suddenly appeared after hours of being called a theif,
the person with the 25 BTC sent, should of waited a day at least.

I waited about a couple of days when I got scammed from a different person once for 15 BTC, tubstill.
I didn't rushed out and called him a scammer, I waited.

I gave him a chance, perhaps something happened, or something.
Then after 2-3 days I reported him and got his account removed on BTC-E.
But that was 3 days after he started to ignore me.

I would every 6 hours update, anything happened? But got no response.

Bulanula wasn't given this chance. He was sent 25 BTC by mistake, He didn't see it coming for hours, called scammer thief immediately.
Even after trying for 2 hours to look for a solution which most scammers would never do this, my past experience
suggests scammer never take the time to resolve this.

Sounds to me like you just shouldn't use BTC-E. Bitcointalk gave him two weeks to resolve this before adding the scammer tag. We really push for people to resolve stuff on their own.
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
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I can almost understand why he didn't send it back, as of this.

Sure I can almost understand why, but the fact of the matter is he didn't, and that I don't understand. Some nasty things were said, but proving them right and damaging one's rep by keeping the money is just  Huh
donator
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May 14, 2012, 06:55:01 PM
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
I can't edit posts :

Who even handles this case ?

Theymos ? Maged ?
lzsaver is in charge of this case, with theymos as the administrative contact (he has to approve any changes to the scammer tag). Raize dragged me in when he didn't know who the contact was on this. That being said, I am not the staff contact for this case.

Theymos said : "It's been proven that bulanula was overpaid, so he's ethically obligated to return the extra BTC (minus a few percent for the inconvenience, perhaps).

I admit that "scammer" might not be the most accurate term, but creating a new tag would be inconvenient and "scammer" is close enough."

Why can't I have this "caution tag" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77802.20 Huh
Because that was just a proposal of mine that I don't think will ever get anywhere. Proposal != policy. The scammer tag is still, for the time being, the only tag we can give people.
hero member
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May 14, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Can you confirm me and lightlord are not the same person ? I don't want him dragged into this just like smart1985 dragged sonba and Herodes into this.

They were trolling. Everybody knows you're not the same person (well I'm pretty sure your not anyways)
hero member
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May 14, 2012, 06:22:47 PM
I can't edit posts :

Who even handles this case ?

Theymos ? Maged ?

Theymos said : "It's been proven that bulanula was overpaid, so he's ethically obligated to return the extra BTC (minus a few percent for the inconvenience, perhaps).

I admit that "scammer" might not be the most accurate term, but creating a new tag would be inconvenient and "scammer" is close enough."

Why can't I have this "caution tag" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77802.20 Huh
hero member
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May 14, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
Another lie unearthed = A1BITCOINPOOL still has the scammer tag after he supposedly paid you.

Will that also happen to me ? I pay you whatever fictive things you demand and still I am left with the scammer tag Huh
No. There is more to that story than was initially thought. It turns out that Raize payed out every claim but one. Until a few days ago, we had no idea who that last person was. Now, we do, and although Raize has released his claim on A1BITCOINPOOL, this other guy hasn't. That being said, it should be resolved shortly (within the next week, I'd guess).

Can admin please confirm this "story" because it all seems like an attempt to scam me off 22.5 BTC.

AFAIK smart1985 is demanding 22.5 but now all of a sudden it is Raize too. Next thing you know the whole forum wants 22.5 BTC from me to remove this tag.
I can verify this story.
Also "I have told smart195 to cease all communication with you" = very nice way to rip me off 22.5 BTC !
It was a condition on the sale of the debt that this happens. If Raize wants smart195 to talk again, he can revoke that condition. That being said, it doesn't matter much anymore: both side have already gone into extreme detail in their stories.

smart1985 has already talked. Does this mean the contract is breached now ?

Can you confirm me and lightlord are not the same person ? I don't want him dragged into this just like smart1985 dragged sonba and Herodes into this.
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
Another lie unearthed = A1BITCOINPOOL still has the scammer tag after he supposedly paid you.

Will that also happen to me ? I pay you whatever fictive things you demand and still I am left with the scammer tag Huh
No. There is more to that story than was initially thought. It turns out that Raize payed out every claim but one. Until a few days ago, we had no idea who that last person was. Now, we do, and although Raize has released his claim on A1BITCOINPOOL, this other guy hasn't. That being said, it should be resolved shortly (within the next week, I'd guess).

Can admin please confirm this "story" because it all seems like an attempt to scam me off 22.5 BTC.

AFAIK smart1985 is demanding 22.5 but now all of a sudden it is Raize too. Next thing you know the whole forum wants 22.5 BTC from me to remove this tag.
I can verify this story.
Also "I have told smart195 to cease all communication with you" = very nice way to rip me off 22.5 BTC !
It was a condition on the sale of the debt that this happens. If Raize wants smart195 to talk again, he can revoke that condition. That being said, it doesn't matter much anymore: both side have already gone into extreme detail in their stories.
sr. member
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May 14, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
One shit sandwich? $4.25
One Russian hooker? $200
One illegal kidney? Over $1 million

My reputation? Priceless
Your reputation? 25 BTC

Hahaha, this is awesome.

So is the corrected one by Blazr.

lightlord, why exactly do you type and have the same grammatical errors, etc. as bulanula?
donator
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May 14, 2012, 06:05:56 PM
my verifie again :
verifymessage 1JLM7SC1PM6rr5gRX9rvVvCLo9o7DUh9Hn HPZWEltpv1cnvP6YCk6ffE9FbF6XvxxZmyVCa2fZHSw6wALXZUZzuZ54WScmGTTnKgMJ96x5DjObguV+gOBVjxw= "Smart1985 mybitcointrade.com"

And you know it before you get a transaction ( before the block was found with them ) ... liar
And the deal was only one Month for 2,5 BTC

send Pay Back 22 BTC to : 1PpfNWARwRuU5t8ZkgsU9wpyXyRxRKNxQq

1PpfNWARwRuU5t8ZkgsU9wpyXyRxRKNxQq
Things getting a little out of hand here. Just send 22 btc, post transaction,
And lets all get over this, and get that scammed tag off.

Perhaps you weren't given a chance, but its only $110,
Its not much. Its worth it not to have the scammed tag.
donator
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May 14, 2012, 05:54:09 PM
One shit sandwich? $4.25
One Russian hooker? $200
One illegal kidney? Over $1 million

My reputation? Priceless
Your reputation? 25 BTC
sr. member
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Bitcoin today is what the internet was in 1998.
May 14, 2012, 05:46:43 PM
Do I need to take pictures of myself? And  bulanula?
We aren't the same person

Further more we properly live 1000s of miles apart.

Ever heard of a proxy?

Yeah. Typical bitcointalk TROLLING : "OMG WTF BBQ lightlord = bulanula OMGGGG SHOOT THEM"




Shut up and send his money back. Also, shut up.

He started calling scammer, liar, thief even before I had the chance to give BTC back

Totally irrelevant, if you had refunded him as soon as you could nobody would think you were a scammer and he would look like a complete idiot. You now have access to the funds, proof it belongs to him, yet you don't refund.

Thank you.
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