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legendary
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July 18, 2012, 07:43:30 AM
A few days ago I sold some coins at $9 and transferred the USD to MtGox using AurumXchange and bought more than I sold at $7.2 each.

Nothing fishy. Just natural inbalance between markets.
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 07:43:02 AM

Why buy at 6.2 on Intersango when you can get them on Gox for 5.7 GBP Huh

Because it'd take me 3 weeks to transfer money to MT Gox, and 1 hour to do it to Intersango.

MT Gox don't take GBP either, so I'd have to exchange my GBP for USD, which my bank will charge me for with a higher than market exchange rate + a commision, probably bringing the cost close to 6.10GBP/BTC in the end.

I'd also have to use wire transfer to get money to MT Gox, which my bank charges me for and MT Gox's bank may charge again on their end.

Also, why buy at mtgox when its $0.20 cheaper at BTC-e?
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 07:42:36 AM
Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ?

Somebody who has an order on Intersango for 130BTC @ 6.20GBP. Once that order is filled, the price will(should?) drop down rapidly. Check out the order book yourself.

Clearly a scam attempt to run with all the BTC and cash out.

You mean they placed a fake order so that they could run off with 130BTC extra?

EDIT: looks like it was filled, and price has dropped to 6.10GBP ($9.50), and is continuing to drop.

More like 440 BTC above the current price of 5.7 GBP which is damn strange.

Earlier there was like 500 BTC being bought at insane prices like 6 GBP too ...

And claims that people are not receiving BTC withdrawals due to some "fauly BTC client issue" ( which is BS BTW - typical excuse ) in the Internsango thread.

See WBX exchange for similar scam ...

I don't even know what to do myself, TBH.
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 07:38:36 AM
Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ?

Somebody who has an order on Intersango for 130BTC @ 6.20GBP. Once that order is filled, the price will(should?) drop down rapidly. Check out the order book yourself.

Looking at the order book right now.

It is pretty clear something fishy is going on here.

Why buy at 6.2 on Intersango when you can get them on Gox for 5.7 GBP Huh

My point is this : they are using these false bids to get people to deposit as much BTC now before they disappear tomorrow or in the few days.

Let me know if you have a GBP withdraw working to your bank account and you receive it but I highly doubt it with the recent Bitcoinica shitstorm.

Police can seize Intersango funds at any time or they can claim that this happens to deny access and rob you again and again.

Just watch in the next few days this will happen : "Intersango hacked" "Intersango frozen accounts due to Bitcoinica" etc.

Good luck if you have anything there now ... you will probably never see anything back now.

MtGox is not any better though Sad
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 07:31:03 AM
Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ?

Somebody who has an order on Intersango for 130BTC @ 6.20GBP. Once that order is filled, the price will(should?) drop down rapidly. Check out the order book yourself.

Clearly a scam attempt to run with all the BTC and cash out.

You mean they placed a fake order so that they could run off with 130BTC extra?

EDIT: looks like it was filled, and price has dropped to 6.10GBP ($9.50), and is continuing to drop.
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 07:26:39 AM
Seems like a easy plan to steal as much BTC as possible then take off into the sunset ...

Looks like a nice arbitrage opportunity to me. Only 130BTC available at that price though, after that its 6.10GBP.

Pirate's escapade has cleared out a lot of liquidity on the order books of exchanges, which is most likely why this happened.

Let us be realistic. Who is buying BTC now at 9.7 USD ? NOBODY !

Clearly a scam attempt to run with all the BTC and cash out.

Hope I am wrong but I really doubt it.

I would avoid depositing one Satoshi in there until the current issue is cleared up ... people should be warned hence the need for scammer tags.
legendary
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July 18, 2012, 06:40:12 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula

How about I refund when Bitcoinica and other scammers refund too ?

Very funny indeed !

No tag either ...

You're not a scammer. I don't know why you have a scammer tag.

You're a douchebag and a thief though.

Just wait till I gets hacked by the invisible man too then we will all be laughing our socks off.

25 BTC still there it seems ...

What a coincidence, the scammer tag is still there too.  Smiley

So are they getting the tag or not ?

Seems like a scam to me.

Just look on Interscamgo and see the highly inflated bid prices there.

Buying BTC at 6.2 GBP ( 9.7 USD almost ) when Gox rate is 8.8 ?

Looks like they are trying to play on the greedy sellers and pull a "got hacked bro" excuse there too leaving with all the BTC they stole with these high bids as the GBP is non existent and will never make its way to seller's bank accounts I predict.

I would not trust those guys with a penny now.

Seems like a easy plan to steal as much BTC as possible then take off into the sunset ...

There's a lot to be suspicious about, but there's no proof. I wouldn't trust them either after how many times they've been compromised, but I wouldn't call them scammers either.
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 06:38:36 AM
Seems like a easy plan to steal as much BTC as possible then take off into the sunset ...

Looks like a nice arbitrage opportunity to me. Only 130BTC available at that price though, after that its 6.10GBP.

Pirate's escapade has cleared out a lot of liquidity on the order books of exchanges, which is most likely why this happened.
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 06:30:33 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula

How about I refund when Bitcoinica and other scammers refund too ?

Very funny indeed !

No tag either ...

You're not a scammer. I don't know why you have a scammer tag.

You're a douchebag and a thief though.

Just wait till I gets hacked by the invisible man too then we will all be laughing our socks off.

25 BTC still there it seems ...

What a coincidence, the scammer tag is still there too.  Smiley

So are they getting the tag or not ?

Seems like a scam to me.

Just look on Interscamgo and see the highly inflated bid prices there.

Buying BTC at 6.2 GBP ( 9.7 USD almost ) when Gox rate is 8.8 ?

Looks like they are trying to play on the greedy sellers and pull a "got hacked bro" excuse there too leaving with all the BTC they stole with these high bids as the GBP is non existent and will never make its way to seller's bank accounts I predict.

I would not trust those guys with a penny now.

Seems like a easy plan to steal as much BTC as possible then take off into the sunset ...
legendary
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July 18, 2012, 06:12:54 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula

How about I refund when Bitcoinica and other scammers refund too ?

Very funny indeed !

No tag either ...

You're not a scammer. I don't know why you have a scammer tag.

You're a douchebag and a thief though.

Just wait till I gets hacked by the invisible man too then we will all be laughing our socks off.

25 BTC still there it seems ...

What a coincidence, the scammer tag is still there too.  Smiley
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 04:41:37 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula

How about I refund when Bitcoinica and other scammers refund too ?

Very funny indeed !

No tag either ...

You're not a scammer. I don't know why you have a scammer tag.

You're a douchebag and a thief though.

Just wait till I gets hacked by the invisible man too then we will all be laughing our socks off.

25 BTC still there it seems ...
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 04:37:07 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula

How about I refund when Bitcoinica and other scammers refund too ?

Very funny indeed !

No tag either ...

You're not a scammer. I don't know why you have a scammer tag.

You're a douchebag and a thief though.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
July 18, 2012, 04:35:17 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula

How about I refund when Bitcoinica and other scammers refund too ?

Very funny indeed !

No tag either ...
member
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July 16, 2012, 06:01:12 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
bulanula didn't do anything wrong, according to bulanula
member
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July 16, 2012, 03:56:04 AM
Did you refund that guy yet bulanula?
legendary
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July 01, 2012, 08:42:35 PM
WOW what has the world come to
hero member
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July 01, 2012, 04:50:55 PM
So here we say "only admin has access to IP logs" BUT here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.776457

Powercoiner == Dexter

Maged can clearly see through IP logs that they are the same person ?

Maybe the rules changed since March ? Or maybe Maged is the only non-admin who can see IP logs ? Or maybe I am going crazy Cheesy ?
When I'm the one who does all the work to request a checkuser, theymos has been nice enough to not take my thunder by posting the response himself (I wouldn't mind if he did, since he's the one who has to look it up, but it does make it more clear who is handling the case). Most of the time, I have to wait several hours for that information, which is why it takes so long to appear.

I am more than happy to train anyone in doing a scammer investigation, just contact me. To make things easier for me, have a specific case in mind before asking me to train you, since I don't want to train people who'll never use the information. Plus, practical on-the-job training is so much better, anyway. And don't get confused, it is a job. It's insane what goes on behind the scenes...

Scammer catching scammers ... well I'll be damned Wink

Cheesy

I will contact Raize soonish ...
legendary
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July 01, 2012, 02:49:31 PM
So here we say "only admin has access to IP logs" BUT here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.776457

Powercoiner == Dexter

Maged can clearly see through IP logs that they are the same person ?

Maybe the rules changed since March ? Or maybe Maged is the only non-admin who can see IP logs ? Or maybe I am going crazy Cheesy ?
When I'm the one who does all the work to request a checkuser, theymos has been nice enough to not take my thunder by posting the response himself (I wouldn't mind if he did, since he's the one who has to look it up, but it does make it more clear who is handling the case). Most of the time, I have to wait several hours for that information, which is why it takes so long to appear.

I am more than happy to train anyone in doing a scammer investigation, just contact me. To make things easier for me, have a specific case in mind before asking me to train you, since I don't want to train people who'll never use the information. Plus, practical on-the-job training is so much better, anyway. And don't get confused, it is a job. It's insane what goes on behind the scenes...
hero member
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June 30, 2012, 12:04:54 PM

Maged can clearly see through IP logs that they are the same person ?

Maybe the rules changed since March ? Or maybe Maged is the only non-admin who can see IP logs ? Or maybe I am going crazy Cheesy ?

If we have suspicions we ask theymos, he'll usually confirm/deny at least. We don't have access to IPs.

Thank you for clarifications.

One thing this forum needs is a little bit more transparency Wink
legendary
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June 30, 2012, 12:02:16 PM

Maged can clearly see through IP logs that they are the same person ?

Maybe the rules changed since March ? Or maybe Maged is the only non-admin who can see IP logs ? Or maybe I am going crazy Cheesy ?

If we have suspicions we ask theymos, he'll usually confirm/deny at least. We don't have access to IPs.
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