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Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! (Read 1047050 times)

legendary
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In addition to all of the above, which is well worded and highly rational, this statement should be backed up by some kind of proof:

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As an anon, you can't just say stuff like this and expect everyone to take your word for it. Regardless, even if true, this coin is not Unobtanium but something else and therefore a new ANN thread should be opened for discussion of it.

Seconded (aka "hear hear!")

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
In addition to all of the above, which is well worded and highly rational, this statement should be backed up by some kind of proof:

(Blazr2 approved this message)

As an anon, you can't just say stuff like this and expect everyone to take your word for it. Regardless, even if true, this coin is not Unobtanium but something else and therefore a new ANN thread should be opened for discussion of it.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
Ouch, at this late date why start over as a Proof of Work blockchain?

All that will do is perpetuate your vulnerability to fly by night miners.

Then if you also plan to not honour the existing coins, well, that is total ass-hat-ery.

Money is IOUs, to deliberately renege on the long long history of IOUs (coins) already issued (minted) is awful.

Have you considered, rather, the approach taken by the Galactic Milieu to rescuing "dead" or "endangered" Proof of Work coins, which is to issue tokens on a tokens platform (for example HORIZON or Stellar) and implement 1-for-1 bailing-in and bailing out of the actual on the blockchain coins for the corresponding tokens?

(Heck, forget about bailing out even maybe, just have bailing-in to permit any already existing coins (IOUs) on the blockchain whose private keys turn up some future year or century or whenever to be redeemed for the token; do you really need continued minting or is that simply potentially devaluation-causing inflation?)

That approach can not only allow the value of the coins to continue to be transacted even while the blockchain itself is running slow due to the attacks of fly by night miners but also can secure the value of the coins against mining attacks of such power that they re-org the blockchain, re-writing history, since the bailing-in process can if need be wait for any coins wanting to be bailed in to first be secured by hard-coded checkpoints in the coin daemon before issuing the tokens representing such newly bailed-in coins.

At very least do not be so dis-honourable as to deliberately fail to honour the project's existing coins (aka IOUs) it already issued / minted!

Being honourable would make it more feasible / reasonable for any similar mechanisms to the Milieu's to continue to represent your coin with its tokens; rug-pulling such as you seem to be potentially proposing is not a highly condoned behavior in the finance space nor the crypto space.

-MarkM-
newbie
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Is the code currently open to the public or not yet?

The code is not public yet and will not be until released.
The algorithm has be chosen as sha3d (sha3-256 double round). We are currently in the testing phase to make sure miners (CPUMiner/SRB) and pools are compatible with the selection.

https://i.ibb.co/C1kR4Mn/nuno-mining-test.png

To be clear, there will be no premine, no dev fee, no tail emissions, no airdrops  and no promise of future value.
legendary
Activity: 1415
Merit: 1003
Bagholder. Hodling shit since 2014
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Unobtanium is being reborn with BTC's most current stable code base (27.1).
(hereby referred to as Un)

This will not be a by-product of mining other coins (aka Merge mining, AUXPOW), it will be it's own unique chain. The maximum coin emission (250000) with remain the same with a different schedule.

The mining algorithm is being researched and has yet to be decided. Emerging cryptocurrencies are experimenting with novel mining algorithms that seek to improve efficiency, reduce environmental impact, or enhance security. The majority of these are based from the SHA3 winner (Keccak) and/or candidates list (BLAKE, Grøstl, JH, Skein, CubeHash, Echo, Fugue, Hamsi, Luffa, Shabal, SHAvite-3, SIMD). Multiple round algorithms (x11, x12, x13, x14, x15, x16r, x16rv2, x16s, x17, x22i) of this type do not offer any hardware based acceleration. That being said - the official SHA3 winner (Keccak) which does offer hardware based acceleration is seriously being considered.

The idea of a possible chainswap is not out of the question. Although based on Cryptoid's Rich List - most of the current Un remains dormant or lost through the multiple forks that have occurred. Perhaps it's best to start from scratch.

The logic in the original source code for total coin emission is infinite and not limited to 250000 coins (even though it will take forever to mine). 0.01 UNO is the perpetual block subsidy.  This would require a hard fork to fix.
The difficulty (modified KGW) algorithm is also broken. It only averages the previous block (not a days worth of blocks as it was initially intended). This would account for the difficulty spikes and uneven block times the current chain is facing. This also would require a hard fork to fix.

The preliminary code has already been made. We would like the support of the current community. Any concerns or recommendations will be considered.
This project was born for the sake of having something to do on Friday night.

We are still old school, you know where to find us on IRC (Libera)




Is the code currently open to the public or not yet?
member
Activity: 790
Merit: 26
Checking out Bitcointalk on Sunday afternoon!

legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
(Blazr2 approved this message)

Unobtanium is being reborn with BTC's most current stable code base (27.1).
(hereby referred to as Un)

This will not be a by-product of mining other coins (aka Merge mining, AUXPOW), it will be it's own unique chain. The maximum coin emission (250000) with remain the same with a different schedule.

But why tho...
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
(Blazr2 approved this message)

Unobtanium is being reborn with BTC's most current stable code base (27.1).
(hereby referred to as Un)

This will not be a by-product of mining other coins (aka Merge mining, AUXPOW), it will be it's own unique chain. The maximum coin emission (250000) with remain the same with a different schedule.

The mining algorithm is being researched and has yet to be decided. Emerging cryptocurrencies are experimenting with novel mining algorithms that seek to improve efficiency, reduce environmental impact, or enhance security. The majority of these are based from the SHA3 winner (Keccak) and/or candidates list (BLAKE, Grøstl, JH, Skein, CubeHash, Echo, Fugue, Hamsi, Luffa, Shabal, SHAvite-3, SIMD). Multiple round algorithms (x11, x12, x13, x14, x15, x16r, x16rv2, x16s, x17, x22i) of this type do not offer any hardware based acceleration. That being said - the official SHA3 winner (Keccak) which does offer hardware based acceleration is seriously being considered.

The idea of a possible chainswap is not out of the question. Although based on Cryptoid's Rich List - most of the current Un remains dormant or lost through the multiple forks that have occurred. Perhaps it's best to start from scratch.

The logic in the original source code for total coin emission is infinite and not limited to 250000 coins (even though it will take forever to mine). 0.01 UNO is the perpetual block subsidy.  This would require a hard fork to fix.
The difficulty (modified KGW) algorithm is also broken. It only averages the previous block (not a days worth of blocks as it was initially intended). This would account for the difficulty spikes and uneven block times the current chain is facing. This also would require a hard fork to fix.

The preliminary code has already been made. We would like the support of the current community. Any concerns or recommendations will be considered.
This project was born for the sake of having something to do on Friday night.

We are still old school, you know where to find us on IRC (Libera)



legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
UNO has been experiencing disruption in block production due to a switch miner jumping in with 5 phs, running up the difficulty, and then when block production slows, they switch away. The remaining smaller miners then have to slog through the high difficulty until it resets and normal 3 minute block time resumes.

This last period of disruption ended not 24 hours ago, after nearly 4 days of no block production. Smaller miners finally broke through and were rewarded with a flood of new blocks.  But shortly after than, the big miner came back in and did the same thing.  Its now been 8 hours are we are still waiting for small miners to find another block.

UNO's difficulty resets every block, unlike Bitcoin which resets after 2016 blocks.   But the damage to UNO is compounding through the disruption of this behavior.  Exchanges don't appreciate it, and neither do wallet makers.  They will certainly drop Uno if this continues.   If it is the miner's intent to destroy UNO, then they are on the right track.  If their goal is to maximize profit for the long term, then they should want UNO to survive, and need to change their behavior accordingly.

I have no control over any of this, other than to explain how UNO works.  UNO has been around since 2013, so its one of the oldest blockchains still running.   UNO survived when ViaBTC pulled about 12 EHS;   miners eventually were able to break through and return to normal block times.   And as long as their are persistent miners, UNO will survive, even if it takes days, weeks or months to slog through the high difficulty.  But who wants to do that, really.  If we can keep UNO running smoothly and predictably, it continue to pay miners long into the future. 

But selfish behavior can just as easily kill it off.

legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Donations needed to keep Unobtanium listed on Chainz blockchain Explorer.
UNO is one of the oldest cryptocurrencies on the planet.

The Chainz listing is set to expire right before UNO's 10th anniversary.

Contribute directly to Chainz...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!crypto
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Uno's TENTH Anniversary coming up next month!!
member
Activity: 790
Merit: 26
'Happy 9th Birthday Unobtanium!

You are 9 Years Old Today, despite all the odds.  You are among the oldest, most enduring, rarest cryptocurrencies on earth.

It's been a hell of a ride.'

Goodness yes.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
LA Token exchange is asking for a bribe to keep UNO listed on their exchange.

If I had UNO at LA Token, I would withdraw it immediately.

Better places to trade UNO include

https://freiexchange.com/

https://freixlite.com

https://atomicdex.io/en/


AtomicDex has trustless atomic swap trading for Unobtanium right inside their Atomic Wallet.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Unobtanium UNO, the original rare fair launch crypto from 2013, has been included in Atomic Dex mobile wallet. 
Store and trustlessly trade your UNO from your mobile Atomic Dex wallet.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.komodoplatform.atomicdex
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Unobtanium $UNO is now in AtomicDex wallet for Android.  AtomicDex is a great project, providing a non-custodial wallet with the ability to trade 500+ crypto! Including #Unobtanium!  Give it a try, see what you think!

Most of your favorite pairs are the, including UNO/BTC, UNO/LTC, UNO/DOGE, UNO/DASH, UNO/USD, etc.

You can get it right now on Google Play and Apple App Store.  Learn more at  https://atomicdex.io/en/mobile/
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Happy 9th Birthday Unobtanium!

You are 9 Years Old Today, despite all the odds.  You are among the oldest, most enduring, rarest cryptocurrencies on earth.

It's been a hell of a ride.




t.me/unobtaniumuno

unobtanium.uno
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Trade UNO without permission, p2p, on Atomic Dex.

Get the AtomicDex wallet at AtomicDex.io
Fund your wallet
Trade any pair from your wallet

Couldn't be easier.

KYC is slowly strangling access to centralized exchanges.  There will probably come a day soon when UNO is not available on a centralized exchange.
Remember AtomicDex,  Bisq.network and BlockDX.   Unobtanium can be traded without permission on any of them.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Unobtanium's Chainz Explorer subscription is coming due.

If anyone would like to help the one true Unobtanium/UNO project, now you can! Just contribute a little BTC to extend the Chainz subscription. The more you send them, the longer the service is extended. it would be appreciated.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!crypto

We've had this service for many years. Their api and links are embedded in software and websites everywhere. It would be tits to keep it going.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
UNO Party is continuing its fast progress.  More than 100 assets have been created on the Uno Testnet.
The leader of the UnoParty effort, @bitwize, has arrange for the top Counterparty asset explorer to include UnoParty!  This is a big deal because it normalizes UnoParty interactions and api's for creators familiar with CounterParty and other forks like DogeParty. It will make it much easier for those communities to also create assets on UnoParty.  Check it out and see what UnoParty makers are experimenting with on Unobtanium's testnet.

I know my post here is a bit late but this is really cool man, congrats, gonna find some time to test it out soon.
Welcome, old tymer!
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