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Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 4. (Read 1047157 times)

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In the Telegram thread, we have been talking about switching Uno from  POW to POS.  

Opposition here.  Angry

Hardline.  Conservative.  NEVER FORK THE CHAIN attitude at Camp Uno is one of the critical elements that gives Uno value.  

Superior to that is perhaps age.

Uno is top 33 RANK among still existent chains by age.

By capital UNO ranks very high, after BTC and LTC comes UNO by my calculations.  NMC is older and was more capitalized by leaps but over the years UNO has squared capital with NMC and PPC.  Lets not destroy that creditability by willy nilly forking the chain just because things got a little shaky on the blocks/24hr metric.  
 
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The reason for the discussion is that hash has seen a steep drop from 15,000 PHS last year to about 1-10 PHS today. This has caused the blockchain to slow.  20 Uno blocks are supposed to be produced every hour, but as I write this, we've head only 10 blocks in the past 11 hours.  With the price of Bitcoin, its difficult to interest large miners to merge mine UNO with BTC.

It's not a bug it is a feature.  In truth it's the code demonstrating battle tested truths.  Pump 15000PHS of voltage into Uno and then yank it down to 1PHS.  How do you think BTC could handle that?  Uno looks to have survived the throttle up then throttle down.  See the chain.  Achievement unlocked.  

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Some will have strong feelings about this, and its only a discussion, but I wanted to put it out there so we can get your opinion.

Yeah some do have strong feels about this Wink

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The benefit of moving to POW would be to enable mining on gpu/cpu
This a typo?  POW or POS?  I am assuming POS.

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, which could increase the number of nodes on the network,
More nodes is good.  And the sha256 pools are very few and their numbers dwindle every quarter.  We are seeing less than dozen pool operations in profitable territory.   The the lions share of BTC BCH BSV XEC new coins flow to only 8 or 9 pools.  $40M/day?  Moolah.  But it only feeds less than a dozen pool operations (aka node support/control).

There are other sha256 pools mining DGB and PPC, both of these look viable over the horizon.  Thus, these provide second tier revenue to pools that seem to be and remain Uno friendly.  But this still leaves just a very few pool nodes, take note, the actual blockchain nodes that matter.  So indeed this node issue is valid.

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and steady block production
I am indifferent on this metric.  Yes Uno had a stellar score with smooth and steady block production.  

It would be nice to see the last90days of BTC BCH BSV XEC and UNO side by side.

Hats of to Devs.  But IMO the fact that Uno is at times unobtainable  Wink is kinda cool.  Especially once real world sha256 mining is grasped, giant bolts of lighting that appear and disappear in a flash.  Uno is not crafted to pay to the piper million$/24hr/H/s.  Uno is built the ride the bull not feed it.  Yes there are dedicated pools and hardcore miners with depreciated ANTS.  Yet in reality sha256 pools will be by the microsecond AI cost/yield driven predication machines.  The Peta-hash has moved off, but can return in an instant for weeks or mere minutes.  It will always oscillate.  And left unaddressed UNO-chain will be at the mercy of +15000x volatility.

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Nothing else about Uno would change: block time, reward, scarcity would all stay the same.

dems Holy Cows.  DO NOT TOUCH.


I have some suggestions ...

Uno was POW then moved to AUX sha256.  Don't subtract this add onto this.

There are other POW AUX options.  
And working code.

See XMY and ARG for Scrypty POW AUX that also does AUX sha256.  
See UIS for gpu AUX (Neoscrypt, x11)

Next see XMY again, DGB and then XVG, GLT, Aurora, ARG, and more.
They feature working code for multi-algo mining.

For ASIC algos with established revenue/rewards see
- MonacoinXVG(Lyra2v2?)
- grs/quark/qubit/skien flavor
- x11


What I am suggesting is adding more AUX options and more ASIC flavors.  
This profile would be very similar to XMY + UIS.

Now if the Devs want to do something unique add POS.
I don't know of any AUX + POS, other than Emer?

specks:
more asic AUX sha+scry+x11
gpu AUX neoscrypt
--if you want more--
+new asic POW algos (multi-algo but not yet Aux)
+new gpu POW algos (multi-algo but not yet Aux)
+proof of stake

code philosophy:
AUX rails : vetted POW algos with clear over the horizon future and established past, once part of the code always part of the code, pulling AUX after release is bad politics.

new gpu and alt-asic rails :   beta trail for AUX, don't know if you need to pull if any flavor becomes deadwood, DGB has changed up the algo rooster, so it is possible, also plenty of projects leading in the multialgo arena to guide Uno.

code repo :  XMY ARG UIS NMC UNO DGB PPC primaries


node philosophy:

1. asic/gpu AUX bring $$$ pool operations to provide critical real time block consensus.  think api.
2. alt pow algos bring and retain amateur and grass root network support pools and elevate participants over time.
3. more exchanges bring more chain support.
4. block explorers chain data centers likely funded and hosted by pools post-2025.  
5. proof of stake nodes, hive or cloud support that has growth rather than the retraction seen in POW pools, also staking recruits new full node participants and builds community.


list of AUX mining with other chains https://justpaste.it/2ao1d
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In the Telegram thread, we have been talking about switching Uno from  POW to POS.  The reason for the discussion is that hash has seen a steep drop from 15,000 PHS last year to about 1-10 PHS today. This has caused the blockchain to slow.  20 Uno blocks are supposed to be produced every hour, but as I write this, we've head only 10 blocks in the past 11 hours.  With the price of Bitcoin, its difficult to interest large miners to merge mine UNO with BTC.

Some will have strong feelings about this, and its only a discussion, but I wanted to put it out there so we can get your opinion.

The benefit of moving to POW would be to enable mining on gpu/cpu, which could increase the number of nodes on the network, and steady block production. Nothing else about Uno would change: block time, reward, scarcity would all stay the same.

https://t.me/unobtaniumuno

I thought this was interesting, but I guess either I'm not allowed to think so, or it's somehow off-topic to consider an important update on the coin the thread is about to be interesting, since a moderator deleted my reply for some reason.

Anyway, I still think it's interesting and hope it plays out well for Uno if it's implemented. 
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
In the Telegram thread, we have been talking about switching Uno from  POW to POS.  The reason for the discussion is that hash has seen a steep drop from 15,000 PHS last year to about 1-10 PHS today. This has caused the blockchain to slow.  20 Uno blocks are supposed to be produced every hour, but as I write this, we've head only 10 blocks in the past 11 hours.  With the price of Bitcoin, its difficult to interest large miners to merge mine UNO with BTC.

Some will have strong feelings about this, and its only a discussion, but I wanted to put it out there so we can get your opinion.

The benefit of moving to POW would be to enable mining on gpu/cpu, which could increase the number of nodes on the network, and steady block production. Nothing else about Uno would change: block time, reward, scarcity would all stay the same.

https://t.me/unobtaniumuno
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
UnoRe looks exactly like a scam token. They've hijacked the 8 years of good will that Unobtanium has brought to the UNO ticker symbol.

I don't want to hear from any more people who bought UnoRe and now want to transfer that "token" to their UNO wallet.  It can't be done.

Beware of SCAMS like UnoRe that apparently are so inept that they can't even choose an appropriate ticker symbol.
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Hey market aggregators!

Get your sh*t together.

Nearly every market aggregator copy-pastes the API feed from coinmarketcap.com (which is BNB).

They (who is BNB) have ignored/deleted the coin supply which is free API public info, via, chainz/tokenview/others. 

Other qualified blockchains suffering the same fate :: Aurora, GoldCoin, Clam, and Unobtanium.  Others?

Seems intentional censorship.

Loads of verifiable dead shit coins are tracked and ranked high above, even more faux tokens, yet here we are, hidden REAL marketcap.

I feel like there is CAUSE for unity with the fellow classic blockchains to organize with right-minded aggregators and standardized a list of classic blockchains @+7yrs.


legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
Hey, Miners!
Now is a great time to add Unobtanium/UNO to your Bitcoin mining operation using AuxPow/Merge Mining.
Not long ago,  UNO's hash rate was pushing 15 EHS!   But thanks to Chinese miners shutting down, we have seen a huge decrease in difficulty.  I can't remember a more profitable time to mine Unobtanium!

Unobtanium has been a valuable cryptocurrency since 2013, and is one of the oldest viable crypto projects in existence.

Make your Sha256 mining activities even more profitable by adding UNO.  More info at https://unobtanium.uno



Most of the day to day discussion about UNO is on Telegram. Join us:

t.me/unobtaniumUno
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
That was a damn good give-a-away.
Do you remember any more about that?  
I remember there was the 100 uno 'blue crypto award'.  But other than that, I don't know who would voluntarily give someone 100 uno.

But yes, Cryptsy was a debacle. We still have hounds searching for Paul Vernon in China.
sr. member
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Looks like I lost my 100 UNO on cryptsy forever. I checked all my old computer's folders. Cryptsy was a big lesson for me. Never store your coins on exchange. Only good news is I never paid for Unobtanium. It was from giveaway.
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
Unobtanium is an auxPow coin, which means it can be mined simultaneously with Bitcoin.

Merge Mine Unobtanium to make Bitcoin mining more profitable. Enjoy receiving UNO rewards while you wait to hit a block on Bitcoin.
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
Unobtanium has a CoinLore page. Not a bad place to get aggregated UNO stats & info.

https://www.coinlore.com/coin/unobtanium
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if DOGE > LTC
then UNO ? BTC;
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New mining pool active Smiley First block has been found Smiley

cryptohamstr.com

1% pool fee
stratum: -a sha256 -o stratum+tcp://stratum.cryptohamstr.com:3333 -u ADDR -p c=UNO

You can use c=UNO,d=X in order to change your miners difficulty.

Have fun mining.

Very nice! Will mine a few test blocks, though I have not enough hash to compete.  Cheesy

Nice work!
jr. member
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proof
BTC block 676726
29/3/2021 00:37:51 (UTC+7:00) extracted by Mining Dutch
merge mined w/ UNO @ https://www.mining-dutch.nl/pools/bitcoin.php
 Cheesy

ISIN: GB00B03MLX29
https://isin.toolforge.org/?language=en&isin=GB00B03MLX29
jr. member
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UNO functions as the original value storage vault.  For the guys that mine BTCBTC.

Most of the UNO was mined 2013-2015 by guys with asics, or gpu farms.  They had the ability to mine BTC but opted to mine UNO.  Then UNO switched to merge mining so you could mine both UNO and BTC.   

For the last 2-3 years only professional ASIC pools can mine UNO.  So yes UNO is only mined by guys or gals with the hash-power to mine BTC.
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I found this https://primecoinxpm.medium.com/gemmer-multiwallet-building-the-industry-c09c6341c539

I can not believe this coin has been able to remain the hidden gem it is.  
It's going straight past Proxima Centauri, just a matter of time.  Once crypto education is added to school curriculums the crypto illiterate will find it.

crypto illiterate is the 99.9%
but it is no help that CMC has decided to not calculated UNO's marketcap, thus invisible to those researching.

We need to circulate a list of bitcoin core projects that are older than 1500days.

Then give it to the markcap websites, so you can filter search by age and code base.

UNO in a nut shell to the illiterates ...
Do you know Doge?
yes.
Ok do you know why Doge is important? (rhetorical)
Because it is merge mined with LTC and reached coinbase/reward maturity.
UNO is exactly the same, but older and stronger (because sha256 is 2 orders more hash power).
Where Doge may function as Elon's coins for the common people.
UNO functions as the original value storage vault.  For the guys that mine BTCBTC.
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I can not believe this coin has been able to remain the hidden gem it is.   

It's going straight past Proxima Centauri, just a matter of time.  Once crypto education is added to school curriculums the crypto illiterate will find it.

It's one of the few coins that has a shot at overtaking Btc in price per unit IMO

Just wanted to thank the devs for staying true to it's original vision.

We try to have users be appreciative of the rare asset they hold and share curriculum on blog, like http://unobtanium.uno/blog/bash-unobtanium-tools-generating-an-uno-address-offline-with-diceware.html

With all the buzz around NFT's you may want to consider adding some NFT related searches to the keywords for UNO's website/blog.  Uno has some parallels as far as rarity -it may or may not drum up some added exposure if you added a collectible dimension to the vision.   Just a thought.   Ride the waves while they swell.
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I can not believe this coin has been able to remain the hidden gem it is.   

It's going straight past Proxima Centauri, just a matter of time.  Once crypto education is added to school curriculums the crypto illiterate will find it.

It's one of the few coins that has a shot at overtaking Btc in price per unit IMO

Just wanted to thank the devs for staying true to it's original vision.

We try to have users be appreciative of the rare asset they hold and share curriculum on blog, like http://unobtanium.uno/blog/bash-unobtanium-tools-generating-an-uno-address-offline-with-diceware.html
sr. member
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I can not believe this coin has been able to remain the hidden gem it is.   

It's going straight past Proxima Centauri, just a matter of time.  Once crypto education is added to school curriculums the crypto illiterate will find it.

It's one of the few coins that has a shot at overtaking Btc in price per unit IMO

Just wanted to thank the devs for staying true to it's original vision.
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Everybody on EARTH needs a store of value.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6zyPnSA6vQ
UNO is the BTC DOGE.
Don't miss the big picture.

95520BTC microStrt
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Well I don't want to really impose on another person(s) project. If you have any advertising materials on it we could set some stuff up for that, as far as miners there are lots of them on discord with pools etc etc.. also the costs or what is needed would be and could be figured out by you, if your or someone else is still interested. If you could come up with a comprehensive list of what is needed and post it here I'm sure we would appreciate it so maybe we can have a better understanding of what we need to start it up.

I'd suggest to make a Prototanium revival thread for this then, as this is the Unobtanium thread and discussion is quickly becoming off-topic.

As far as "imposing" on someone else's project, it's ded for all intents and purposes, but still remains an open-source project, so anyone can do as they wish with it. I maintained my own UNO client for years before joining up as a project developer.

As a freelance developer, I welcome PM's from folks interested in my paid services for select projects. As I recall, you had no funding for the project and I simply cannot do any unpaid work at this time. I wish you well on the project if you do decide to organize a revival.
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