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Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 168. (Read 1047085 times)

legendary
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Bittrex now has a 200 million Digibyte top address.. I'm willing to bet verns in control of this one doing it too... i hope bittrex are on high alert and blocking all incoming large balances from their wallets.

Netcoin took a hit the other day 5.85 million dumped in 1 go. Went from 85 sat to 50. Im suspecting other coins have a similar pattern? Thunderjet you able to look at netcoin and digibyte and see if those are also from cryptsy? They are big balances so i suspect those are.

Maybe we should start listing other coins that have this on bittrex to compound the evidence against Paul more. This guy just digs deeper holes.

Not sure how they'd block them. They should just trap them. How they return them to their rightful owners is an entirely different animal. They would need to contact the person overseeing the BK proceedings.
legendary
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Maybe we should start listing other coins that have this on bittrex to compound the evidence against Paul more. This guy just digs deeper holes.

The court conservator would really appreciate this information for other coins stuck on Cryptsy.  He asked me if there were "more people" like me, but I had to admit I am basically UNO centric, and that many of the other coins on Cryptsy are not as well supported as UNO in terms of community interest, block explorers, with obsessive compulsive block chain sleuths, etc.

I would encourage other altcoin communities with coins on Cryptsy to identify their cold storage wallets and watch them extremely closely for any movement. We were lucky with UNO yesterday, but the community made that luck. We have literally been watching that wallet daily for 90+ days. We don't have a Chinese exchange for UNO, so that was also a fortunate fact. Our deepest market, Bittrex, is in the USA. These things all came together yesterday to help us protect 15K UNO from theft.

Btw,
IMZ just sent this interesting article about Paul Vernon and Bitebi9 exchange. http://coinjournal.net/cryptsy-paul-vernon-exchange-china/
legendary
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Wow. 15,200 UNO. This looks more and more like outright embezzlement everyday. They must be raping other coins too I imagine.
legendary
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Bittrex now has a 200 million Digibyte top address.. I'm willing to bet verns in control of this one doing it too... i hope bittrex are on high alert and blocking all incoming large balances from their wallets.

Netcoin took a hit the other day 5.85 million dumped in 1 go. Went from 85 sat to 50. Im suspecting other coins have a similar pattern? Thunderjet you able to look at netcoin and digibyte and see if those are also from cryptsy? They are big balances so i suspect those are.

Maybe we should start listing other coins that have this on bittrex to compound the evidence against Paul more. This guy just digs deeper holes.
legendary
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F.K.

That reinforces our thoughts that he was unaware of security. It truly boggles the mind if they didn't hire some government tech lackeys to secure it. "Here Bob, there's millions of dollars of cryptographic keys on these computers. I know you don't know anything about that stuff so pile 'em in the evidence closet & go on vacation."

I'm sure he's a nice guy who's very good at what he has done in the past, but shouldn't he have realized that he was in over his head with the tech side of this? What causes someone to assume that by doing nothing they have things more secure than the original exchange owner who was hacked, which caused these problems in the first place!  Lips sealed

Anyway; We're Home Free Boys

Any similar reports from other cryptos or were we the only one?  Cheesy
hero member
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BN is up to something interesting. Not sure I understand completely yet, but it sure looks sparkly and fun in a UNO kind of way.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmro-uno-wealth-investment-guide-1430374

   Never a dull moment with BN (thinking what or who is BN, then clicks link), some Legends speak louder than others & some don't talk @ all ( or very seldom). So many new names over the years on this forum (many faces or masks), still remember my first Testz account that was lost or hacked  way back when & then real life nickname Huh, but decided to make Testing Crypto (Simple Machines Forum). The "Not so Instant Message", of the internet talks of the world (IRC with graphics or Slack & others like Skype ), some good & some bad, but much greatness could come out of all this if built right  Cool
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
Good, make it happen BN  Cool I may adopt your strategy.

F.K. Surely that was a hilarious & interesting 45 minute phone call. No more details? I wish you had recorded it  Cheesy

I should have, but it was a pretty boring call.  I spent a lot of time educating, walking him through the Chainz explorer richlist, showed him the Bittrex distribution chart, mentioned how the  UNO community had tied withdrawals to that wallet before it was locked...  Stuff you guys already know. The only interesting thing I learned was that they had sent a demand letter to 'trex first thing this morning after reading it on Twitter.  Bittrex has a policy against commenting, so don't wait for further details from them; specifics might work their way back into court proceedings eventually. The impression I was left with was that Bittrex was taking it all very seriously.

legendary
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Good, make it happen BN  Cool I may adopt your strategy.

F.K. Surely that was a hilarious & interesting 45 minute phone call. No more details? I wish you had recorded it  Cheesy
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
BN is up to something interesting. Not sure I understand completely yet, but it sure looks sparkly and fun in a UNO kind of way.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmro-uno-wealth-investment-guide-1430374
legendary
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BTC or BUST
who's nukefxr??

nukefxr is an OG cryptsy trader from a ways back, Cryptsy trollbox friend of mine from the UNB era if you will..

By the look of it he noticed the huge wallet on Trex and notified thunderjet. Thunderjet was really active in the last days/months of Cryptsy in the trollbox sharing all of his blockchain forensics findings with us and he became the go-to guy to find out the latest of what's going on..

nukefxr is a cool cat, hope he chimes in.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nukefxr-202332

He was involved with UNB with me way back and he still seems to be involved with Blasko on BitcointalkRaio.
newbie
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Say it ain't so, Verny old pal! Sad

Paging Marshall Long. Help!?!?
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 If you believe the comments from his employees then only vern had access to that code so therefore either the employees lie OR vern is doing it. I believe the later.


You aren't actually accusing the employees of craptsy of lying???!?!

Be still my heart. They would never do that. F or even suggesting that Jim will be banning you from the internet...


May Vern have mercy on your coins..
legendary
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who's nukefxr??

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stop your squabbling, ladies!
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
hero member
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I spoke with one Mr. Sallah's associates today for about 45 minutes.  
It was definitely an unauthorized transfer of funds. Their working theory is that Paul Vernon was behind this attempt to empty the UNO cold wallet at Cryptsy.
This morning they served a demand notice to Bittrex to recover the UNO funds.

We the UNO community and they, the court appointed conservators, were both lucky that those UNO funds were sent to Bittrex. Bittre-x is a well-run US exchange that can be counted on to do the right thing. If the UNO had been transferred to an exchange such as BTER, it would have been game over.

The GOOD news is that Unobtanium is now out of Paul Vernon's control.  Although the funds need to be re-distributed to their owners yet, UNO is now "safe" from Paul Vernon.

If you have reason to remain in contact, introduce them to Thunderbolt.  The Hero We Deserve. (Can somebody do a Batman-type thing please...).

He may prove to be at least "the guy".
legendary
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I spoke with one of Mr. Sallah's associates today for about 45 minutes.  
It was definitely an unauthorized transfer of UNO. Their working theory is that Paul Vernon was behind this attempt to empty the UNO cold wallet at Cryptsy, and that he is hiding in China.

This morning they served a demand notice to Bittrex to recover the UNO from the wallet in question.

We the UNO community and they, the court appointed conservators, were both fortunate that those UNO funds were sent to Bittrex. Bittrex is a well-run US exchange that can be counted on to do the right thing. If the UNO had been transferred to an exchange such as BTER, out of the country beyond the court's jurisdiction, it might have been a different story.

The good news is that Unobtanium is now out of Paul Vernon's control if Bittrex responds to the demand letter, which I am confident they will. Although the funds need to be re-distributed to their owners yet, UNO now appears to be "safe" from Paul Vernon.


Previous message here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14494331
hero member
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@Thunderjet:

Wow.  Just WOW and thanks.  Incredible skills.

You are the guy.  How close are you to Florida?  I think $399 an hour would be fair to charge 'em.

Thank you.
legendary
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Stepped out of the office for a few hours did i miss anything?

briefest and wittiest distillation of what just went down:
https://twitter.com/cswalby/status/719402728766615553


ATTENTION James Sallah

1. The UNO community has apparently captured a rat in a transparent bottle for you.  
2. Has a competent forensic team to help explain how and why.
3. Even a Block Chain Expert with prior trial experience giving expert witness testimony on said subject.
4. UNO community also immediately detected and detered the out right theft of assets in your custody. And your Welcome.
5. (Yes if you not getting it there appears to be uncontaminated evidence pointing directly at a Mr Paul Vern).
6.  Call us. Else, we will certainly call you Wink

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All I have to say is "wow!"
UNO community maybe the best in the business of digital money.
 
http://themerkle.com/coins-move-from-cryptsy-to-bittrex/
"Great article except one point: there is no such thing as a UNO bagholder."  
+point2: thunderJET!
+point3: 'panic dumping' ... sure there seems to be a few spikes followed by some opportunist but mostly confident buy ups ... never mind that the general UNO market held strong in the face of extreme hostility and a major crime was prevented simultaneously by UNO community ... no no ... UNO PANIC DUMPED ... now go and check the 'panic' numbers with the red numbers of ETH, DASH, XMR, XLM, Byte, Factum in the same exact time frame ... http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/all/ ...  Grin Wink
legendary
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Juicin' crypto
so did the theif get cock blocked?Huh i hope so, nice work if so!
fucking scammers/hackers.
sr. member
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Gekko tryin' to work people up, don't fall for it Balu2  Cheesy

Yes we should do right but it's also a no-mercy environment. If I had the choice between one of you buying 2000 UNO at 0.001 or me buying 2000 UNO at 0.0011, I would buy it myself! That's not to say that Bittrex wouldn't reverse trades if such a large dump took place anyway.

I wonder if Bittrex would have noticed if none of us mentioned it.

I also wonder where this thunderbolt guy came from. LOL!

That was an exciting Sunday night/Monday morning, I had fun watching it unfold & using Twitter. This story is a good opportunity for attention so continue to tweet, retweet, post & comment in reddit, there are 3 cryptocointalk threads about it already...what else do crypto people use these days?

It is not thunderbolt,but thunderjet,Merkle miswrote mine username and I did not know they used mine infos until I saw post here.Yesterday one guy - nukefxr,probably from UNO community asked me if I can help about sudden move of UNOs from Cryptsy to Bittrex.Immediately it got mine attention,because during tracing stolen BTCs and altcoins from Cryptsy I found that "hacker" extensively used Bittrex to sell stolen BTCD and XC.So I did investigation and put post about mine findings about 12 hours ago.This is mine original post:



They still have the coins though. Vern does at least. He can still return them. The clock is ticking. As the events unfold in the next few months I think if Vern returns the coins now he can still keep himself and his accomplices out of jail, or minimize the legal liability at least. It's the same situation Karpeles was in when the "missing" coins were tracked to his wallet. It's obvious at this point Vern is guilty.

Now,after receiveship it will be good to look at Cryptsy wallets carefully and compare all these suspicious transactions(including money transactions of course).When we are talking about blockchain expertise,it is very hard to say what can be enough credentials for the court,because it is something so new,there are no school or something similar for that.Maybe these guys from Chain analysis ,which have company for blockchain expertise will have enough credentials for the court:

https://www.chainalysis.com/
Thunderjet good job with your wallet forensics. Just saw this thought you might wanna see it.
The Cryptsy UNO cold wallet has been moved to a wallet at Bittrex this sunday .  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg14494331#msg14494331 …


If you look carefully at this UNO address on Bittrex uWCVvkiyUqXDiQ8nczaoLrWjqScr4jvnnz which received UNOs from Cryptsy cold wallet,you can see that it got first 25 UNOs (probably control transaction) on 7th.March.2016 - 3 weeks before receivership . Rest of them came yesterday.

So,this 15000 UNO transaction has been done by someone who had control of UNO cold wallet on Cryptsy at 7th.March.2016 and we all know who is that person - Paul Vernon.

Unfortunately,it looks like Vernon copied wallet.dat files from wallets on Cryptsy and now wants to exchange rest of altcoins for BTCs.His big wallets with BTCs taken directly from Crypytsy and from selling altcoins are discovered and compromised,so he cant touch them.Bitebi9 is dead,no volume at all,no income,but he has a lot of expenses, from child alimony to paying big expensive lawer,so he probably desperately needs influx of uncompromised BTCs.I dont think so that this account on Bittrex is on his name,but probably on some poor guy/girl whose gave identity data to Cryptsy.

Maybe big players in crypto world know something about it,because yesterday we had unusally big drop of all altcoins value,while BTC price was stable.









One more thing - I followed UNO address of Cryptsy cold wallet(from the last one address before move on Bittrex) backward on the blockchain to see point of origin of wallet for that address,because that last known address has no label,so someone on Bittrex could tell you are wrong.But, you are right - I found point of origin and it is Cryptsy UNO cold wallet ,no doubt on that:

That point of origin is UNO address(49.000 UNOs) - ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju ,which is positively identified on blockchain as Cryptsy address:


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/tx.dws?627285.htm


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju.htm


If you go one more step backward from address - ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju - you will see address uV3ZkXabHfYoBCJpcEX9W7qKH6L6KqkMHy with 50.000 UNOs from where UNOs were transferred to    ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju   :

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uV3ZkXabHfYoBCJpcEX9W7qKH6L6KqkMHy.htm


Now pay attnetion on funds which came to the address uV3ZkXabHfYoBCJpcEX9W7qKH6L6KqkMHy  - on 50000 UNO deposit (block 507095) it leads right to old URAN wallet of Cryptsy :   

uRAN4dj3yG8n93obakUHT8siVQap47bHrN


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/tx.dws?617298.htm


Things are more than clear now




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