Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 166. (Read 1047017 times)

On Cryptsy, it's pretty much all buy orders for Uno. Virtually no sellers.
I don't think there is even 2 btc on the entire buy side of Uno, all the way down to 1555 sats. People don't want to trade Uno for Btc on Cryptsy right now.

The sell side is also thinning out. There is now just under 700 Un for sale beneath 0.006 btc.
To buy the entire visible book up to .011 would cost 20 btc and yield 1907 Un.

It makes me wonder about the 17,659.0 UNO, 8.98 % of supply, that is visible in the Cryptsy cold wallet at https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?202172.htm

Why are those coins still there, given the 3 months of problems?
They are not for sale (by virtue of the thin sell side).
The owners don't seem to be accumulating more Uno on Cryptsy (by virtue of there simply being no buy orders).
I am unaware of any reported withdrawal problems for Uno.

It seems irrational to me that the cold wallet is still so large, and that nothing is happening with those coins. But these things are usually rational, in retrospect...

Speculating on some possible scenarios for the Uno Cryptsy cold wallet:
Owners are simply uniformed about Cryptsy's situation
Owners are not concerned about what's going on
Cryptsy is the owner of much of the cold wallet
Owners are anticipating an even higher price by keeping the sell side thin

All we know for certain is that there is a lot of Uno still in a wallet that Cryptsy controls.
Anyway, it is interesting to watch this play out.

The Uno rich list at this moment, for the record:



In the past 8 weeks, the size of the cold wallet has nearly halved. 16k Un has been withdrawn.

You're exactly right about how it works F.K. As I posted back on page 567, this is the Cryptsy 'hotter' wallet: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/wallet.dws?20615.htm

I think it's entirely possible that somebody at Cryptsy is arbitraging the markets. If you were able to withdraw bitcoin from Cryptsy, were having money troubles, and saw all these altcoin markets with a guaranteed profit per trade, wouldn't you arbitrage?

It may be someone with balls of unobtanium though, it's hard to know. We could track the Bittrex distribution closely on a daily basis, if you see most of the accounts remaining stagnant with one that moves up and down according to the trade action on Bittrex & Cryptsy, that could be a good indicator of insider arbitrage.

Hello guys & gals,
Would you like to help stick it to Big Vern?  This is your chance.

I spoke again with the Cryptsy conservator today. He explained that the current status of the UNO wallet that was stolen from Cryptsy is that it is frozen by Bittrex.  I've been asked to provide reasonable proof connecting the Bittrex wallet to Cryptsy. Bittrex understandably needs to cover themselves from a business & liability perspective. They didn't ask for stolen UNO to be sent to Bittrex, and have cooprated by freezing the wallet. Yet, it is reasonable that they have asked the conservator for some help to trace the funds.  Obviously, Bittrex doesn't watch the rockchain as closely as we do, and the conservator has no prior experience with UNO whatsoever, so we were asked to provide some help.  I think we can do this.   (and no, I'm not getting paid for any of this).

Did you escape Cryptsy with UNO in the final days?  I am looking for Cryptsy withdrawal transactions that can be traced directly to the big Cryptsy Cold Wallet.

Here is what would be helpful:

1) Transaction ID of your latest and largest withdrawals from Cryptsy that may have moved the Cold Wallet. I'll take anything at this point.  Something from January would be great, but if you pulled out 2k UNO from Cryptsy in 2014, I'll be glad to work with that.

2) This is a bonus:  you still control the wallet that received the UNO from Cryptsy, and ideally you have the ability to sign a message from the wallet.

3) Super bonus: you would be ok identifying yourself to the conservator who is trying to recover the Cryptsy wallet, perhaps making a statement that you did indeed trigger that transaction which moved the Cryptsy cold wallet.

I'll be happy with #1, but #2 & #3 would clinch it.  If you PM me the transaction, I will keep it confidential.  If you feel comfortable posting the info here, then go ahead do that so everyone in the world can also sleuth the rockchain, but just know that you will be revealing your wallet.

@FK:  Here are two transactions from November 4 and blockchain references.  This is from page 551 of this thread.  The uMcVnd wallet was and still is mine.

Further, on 15 December, NatMcoy was doing some sort of blockchain research.  This was during the time that there was an arb between the Cryptsy price and everyone else, since UNO was one of the only coins that was freeflowing when Cryptsy turned most wallet withdrawls off.  He requested some transactions at that time, which I provided him.  However I was mostly buying on Bittrex, and selling on Cryptsy at that time.  When I was done, I exited Cryptsy completely with Doge, as it was a better deal.

So I'm thinking that NatMcoy may have already done some of this Bangladeshi tracing work.

Thats new.  The servers are at Digital Ocean. So what.  Did he provide the passwords to the servers and coin wallets along with the "server location"? Thats the big question.

Giving up the physical location of the servers is hardly cooperation.  
Lets deprive him of his UNO wallet, and then help put his ass in jail for stealing frozen funds from a court. The UNO community may be the only people who can do this. We can prove that wallet originated at Cryptsy, and then Bittrex can prove that he began to liquidate that wallet. Then we wait.

Nice Gekko!

Make it 2,062  

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/block.dws?686006.htm

It's below 30,000 now, 15.22% of total.

I don't remember Crypto.id having the Cryptsy mega-wallet labelled, but now every Bittrex address is flagged as part of the "Cryptsy cold wallet."

Maybe that is their subtle way of saying, "Yes Bittrex, that address belonged to Cryptsy."

I'm not too sure how eased peoples' nerves are by that Tweet. Who really controls the Twitter account?  

It's funny how all of this Unobtanium>Bittrex hubbub caused them to tweet for the first time in nearly 3 months. Apparently they haven't completely abandoned the situation, they still feel some need to defend themselves & ease people's nerves.

https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/719773151098327040

Tweet by Cryptsy reads: "Internet & wallet server physical location has been given to the receivership representative.  Bittrex held funds information was also given."

I'm so confused.

"Bittrex held funds" implies that the recent movements were not meant to be underhanded. Given how brazen they were I would be inclined to believe that if it weren't for the immediate selling of UNO once the transaction got the necessary confirmations.