Not only Proto - Offerings is STILL messed up too.
Wherefore art thou, Blazr2?!
Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 210. (Read 1047081 times)
January 21, 2016, 09:18:16 AM
January 21, 2016, 08:31:49 AM
It wasn't my coin, and I don't own any, but I'll give a .1 btc token of appreciation to whoever gets PR running again in a credible way.
i will throw in 5kg UN tooand 100kg PRoto
January 20, 2016, 10:40:54 PM
It wasn't my coin, and I don't own any, but I'll give a .1 btc token of appreciation to whoever gets PR running again in a credible way.
January 20, 2016, 08:13:14 PM
@Пётp did you offer a bounty?
January 20, 2016, 07:33:56 PM
It would be nice to get the testnet/pro moving again for Cryptopia.
I tried setting up nodes, both with Uno testnet wallet and the Pro client, but it didn't help.
I tried setting up nodes, both with Uno testnet wallet and the Pro client, but it didn't help.
I couldn't find any peers last time I tried. If I have time this weekend I'll try and get on Cryptopia and see if I can see their node, and throw a little hash at it to see if it unsticks. Anyone else with a node up feel free to chime in.
Waste of time I'm afraid. The wallets only connect to the node (if you're lucky), not to each other - making it a centralised system & the reason why it failed - that & the fact that BW couldn't be arsed to fix it. The wallet code needs to be fixed first so that they can connect to each other if it's going to work. I couldn't connect to wallets on my own network, let alone a node on the webz somewhere.
January 20, 2016, 07:31:25 PM
Good luck. It didn't work for me. I even tried setting up my own PRO network with connect settings, but still couldn't find a connection. I've brought lots of coins back from the dead, but PR is stubborn. I'd be interested to learn if your experience is different.
I didn't own any PR, but still would like to see it move for the admins at Cryptopia who were kind enough to list it.
I didn't own any PR, but still would like to see it move for the admins at Cryptopia who were kind enough to list it.
January 20, 2016, 07:17:44 PM
It would be nice to get the testnet/pro moving again for Cryptopia.
I tried setting up nodes, both with Uno testnet wallet and the Pro client, but it didn't help.
I tried setting up nodes, both with Uno testnet wallet and the Pro client, but it didn't help.
I couldn't find any peers last time I tried. If I have time this weekend I'll try and get on Cryptopia and see if I can see their node, and throw a little hash at it to see if it unsticks. Anyone else with a node up feel free to chime in.
January 20, 2016, 07:04:08 PM
It would be nice to get the testnet/pro moving again for Cryptopia.
I tried setting up nodes, both with Uno testnet wallet and the Pro client, but it didn't help.
I tried setting up nodes, both with Uno testnet wallet and the Pro client, but it didn't help.
January 20, 2016, 05:59:36 PM
Who's the Dear Leader?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong UNO!
to the gulag for your disrespectful tone in address towards Supreme Leader!
=-
Prot Tan Ium
yeah bit of a black eye nice if some persons could fix the test net
actually 7 coins/day ... DONE
3 coins/day ... yeap
coming soon under 2 coins/day ... yeah that's about 2065 in BTC time
let me repeat that detail ... UNO is operating in a time frame of 50 years into the bitcoin future ... our chart is the BTC chart 600 months in advance.
UNO is spelled with U for unstoppable.
Bitcoin starts with a 'B' ... and 'S' for sure sure
Deal with it.
PRO is indeed a sore spot, I was happy to have an actual testnet but it turned out to be a gimmick for a cash grab by the dev and the couple of idiots that though monetizing a testnet was a brilliant plan.
@Siameze
It's open source, right?
Can you rehab it to do what you want it to do and bring it online?
Works fine if someone actually runs nodes. I had one up on an AWS instance for ~2 months. I personally don't see the need to clone/fork it since it runs just fine using standard UNO client build. It is trivial to do a little SED work to change the testnet code to reflect PRO.
January 20, 2016, 05:34:54 PM
Who's the Dear Leader?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong UNO!
to the gulag for your disrespectful tone in address towards Supreme Leader!
=-
Prot Tan Ium
yeah bit of a black eye nice if some persons could fix the test net
actually 7 coins/day ... DONE
3 coins/day ... yeap
coming soon under 2 coins/day ... yeah that's about 2065 in BTC time
let me repeat that detail ... UNO is operating in a time frame of 50 years into the bitcoin future ... our chart is the BTC chart 600 months in advance.
UNO is spelled with U for unstoppable.
Bitcoin starts with a 'B' ... and 'S' for sure sure
Deal with it.
PRO is indeed a sore spot, I was happy to have an actual testnet but it turned out to be a gimmick for a cash grab by the dev and the couple of idiots that though monetizing a testnet was a brilliant plan.
@Siameze
It's open source, right?
Can you rehab it to do what you want it to do and bring it online?
January 20, 2016, 05:32:17 PM
Who's the Dear Leader?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong UNO!
to the gulag for your disrespectful tone in address towards Supreme Leader!
=-
Prot Tan Ium
yeah bit of a black eye nice if some persons could fix the test net
actually 7 coins/day ... DONE
3 coins/day ... yeap
coming soon under 2 coins/day ... yeah that's about 2065 in BTC time
let me repeat that detail ... UNO is operating in a time frame of 50 years into the bitcoin future ... our chart is the BTC chart 600 months in advance.
UNO is spelled with U for unstoppable.
Bitcoin starts with a 'B' ... and 'S' for sure sure
Deal with it.
PRO is indeed a sore spot, I was happy to have an actual testnet but it turned out to be a gimmick for a cash grab by the dev and the couple of idiots that though monetizing a testnet was a brilliant plan.
January 20, 2016, 05:17:50 PM
Our safecex market has been added to http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/unobtanium/#markets
Good news about Cryptsy activating withdrawals, it will be interesting to see how much of that UNO gets withdrawn.
Good news about Cryptsy activating withdrawals, it will be interesting to see how much of that UNO gets withdrawn.
January 20, 2016, 01:37:16 PM
Who's the Dear Leader?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong UNO!
to the gulag for your disrespectful tone in address towards Supreme Leader!
=-
Prot Tan Ium
yeah bit of a black eye nice if some persons could fix the test net
actually 7 coins/day ... DONE
3 coins/day ... yeap
coming soon under 2 coins/day ... yeah that's about 2065 in BTC time
let me repeat that detail ... UNO is operating in a time frame of 50 years into the bitcoin future ... our chart is the BTC chart 600 months in advance.
UNO is spelled with U for unstoppable.
Bitcoin starts with a 'B' ... and 'S' for sure sure
Deal with it.
January 20, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Tiny value.. until it isn't. With use and more markets and store of wealth, even if it takes a couple more years the price will increase naturally if it's used and the blockchain is strong.
You may be right, but predicting the future is notoriously difficult. My comment was about what I observe today with merge-mined coins in general (including UNO) and the apparent disconnect between difficulty/hash rate and price.
Hashrate = Security
Also: merge mining is the only known way to have a secure pow-network maintained LONGTERM on absolute minimal inflation
As a store of value (a coin you want to hold longterm) merge mining is the optimal choice.
The alternative to merge mining is unsecure pos or high inflation. Choose your poison.
I think merge mining and low inflation is actually a phantastic combination.
Uno will shine again, no doubt.
Not sure I would agree with the merge mining comment, as you are basically saying the coin cannot survive on its own merits, and must depend on another chain, in his case Bitcoin's.
In any event my original comment was primarily about how I see merge mining as being a primary cause of the disconnect between the hash rate and the value - in general I do not think people are mining UNO because they want Unobtanium, they are mining because they want BTC and it is basically "free" to also merge mine, so why wouldn't you mine and then sell for any non-zero value, they were "free" after all?
Regarding the "store of value", well I know we see it mentioned a lot in this thread, but I cannot really see how a market cap of half a million dollars (or thereabouts, I haven't checked) less all the lost/dormant coins, can provide a meaningful "store of value" for more than a few enthusiasts.
Quoting this for the irc logs war chest.
https://archive.is/9YtNP
I actually just started snapshotting all "self-moderated" threads because of deleted comments. Truth and sensibility have no expiration date.
I don't know what this means?
This means I have started saving a copy of the page before it is moderated, as this thread (amongst others) sometimes deletes comments that are viewed as unfavorable towards the "Dear Leader".
The Rules are posted in the 2nd OP. Very few posts are deleted by the thread moderator so far. Sometimes the BCT Board mods sweep through (probably with a script) and clean things up. I've even had some of my own posts removed from here. If it's really important, cross post to Cryptocointalk or Reddit.
The community has chided me in the past for not being more proactive on spam, personal attacks, off topic posts and blatant trolling, so... I guess it is what it is.
Hint: if someone posts something highly inflammatory that you know is probably going to get removed when I wake up, then please don't feed the trolls in kind, or quote the post.
We have a Uno community off topic thread linked from the OP where you can say anything you want. But this lightly moderated thread is the one place on BCT where we serve Unobtanium, all I ask for is a small bit of decorum.
January 20, 2016, 12:28:09 PM
Who's the Dear Leader?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong UNO
Never forget. You wind up in gulag.
Along with Prot Tan Ium......
January 20, 2016, 12:24:37 PM
Who's the Dear Leader?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong UNO
Never forget. You wind up in gulag.
January 20, 2016, 12:18:05 PM
Who's the Dear Leader?
Kim Jong Un?
Kim Jong Un?
January 20, 2016, 12:11:59 PM
Tiny value.. until it isn't. With use and more markets and store of wealth, even if it takes a couple more years the price will increase naturally if it's used and the blockchain is strong.
You may be right, but predicting the future is notoriously difficult. My comment was about what I observe today with merge-mined coins in general (including UNO) and the apparent disconnect between difficulty/hash rate and price.
Hashrate = Security
Also: merge mining is the only known way to have a secure pow-network maintained LONGTERM on absolute minimal inflation
As a store of value (a coin you want to hold longterm) merge mining is the optimal choice.
The alternative to merge mining is unsecure pos or high inflation. Choose your poison.
I think merge mining and low inflation is actually a phantastic combination.
Uno will shine again, no doubt.
Not sure I would agree with the merge mining comment, as you are basically saying the coin cannot survive on its own merits, and must depend on another chain, in his case Bitcoin's.
In any event my original comment was primarily about how I see merge mining as being a primary cause of the disconnect between the hash rate and the value - in general I do not think people are mining UNO because they want Unobtanium, they are mining because they want BTC and it is basically "free" to also merge mine, so why wouldn't you mine and then sell for any non-zero value, they were "free" after all?
Regarding the "store of value", well I know we see it mentioned a lot in this thread, but I cannot really see how a market cap of half a million dollars (or thereabouts, I haven't checked) less all the lost/dormant coins, can provide a meaningful "store of value" for more than a few enthusiasts.
Quoting this for the irc logs war chest.
https://archive.is/9YtNP
I actually just started snapshotting all "self-moderated" threads because of deleted comments. Truth and sensibility have no expiration date.
I don't know what this means?
This means I have started saving a copy of the page before it is moderated, as this thread (amongst others) sometimes deletes comments that are viewed as unfavorable towards the "Dear Leader".
January 20, 2016, 11:45:34 AM
Tiny value.. until it isn't. With use and more markets and store of wealth, even if it takes a couple more years the price will increase naturally if it's used and the blockchain is strong.
You may be right, but predicting the future is notoriously difficult. My comment was about what I observe today with merge-mined coins in general (including UNO) and the apparent disconnect between difficulty/hash rate and price.
Hashrate = Security
Also: merge mining is the only known way to have a secure pow-network maintained LONGTERM on absolute minimal inflation
As a store of value (a coin you want to hold longterm) merge mining is the optimal choice.
The alternative to merge mining is unsecure pos or high inflation. Choose your poison.
I think merge mining and low inflation is actually a phantastic combination.
Uno will shine again, no doubt.
Not sure I would agree with the merge mining comment, as you are basically saying the coin cannot survive on its own merits, and must depend on another chain, in his case Bitcoin's.
In any event my original comment was primarily about how I see merge mining as being a primary cause of the disconnect between the hash rate and the value - in general I do not think people are mining UNO because they want Unobtanium, they are mining because they want BTC and it is basically "free" to also merge mine, so why wouldn't you mine and then sell for any non-zero value, they were "free" after all?
Regarding the "store of value", well I know we see it mentioned a lot in this thread, but I cannot really see how a market cap of half a million dollars (or thereabouts, I haven't checked) less all the lost/dormant coins, can provide a meaningful "store of value" for more than a few enthusiasts.
Quoting this for the irc logs war chest.
https://archive.is/9YtNP
I actually just started snapshotting all "self-moderated" threads because of deleted comments. Truth and sensibility have no expiration date.
I don't know what this means?
January 20, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
Regarding the "store of value", well I know we see it mentioned a lot in this thread, but I cannot really see how a market cap of half a million dollars (or thereabouts, I haven't checked) less all the lost/dormant coins, can provide a meaningful "store of value" for more than a few enthusiasts.
Well you are right. So don't invest in UNO. But keep in mind the same exact argument was made about Bitcoin, 9999 bitcoins wasn't even worth a pizza pie.
UNO is bitcoin elite, under 4 coins/day inflation, less in the future, attached to the bitcoin hash power (so secure if bitcoin is secure), and can utilize any code developments done by the btc core devs, cuz UNO is bitcoin but elite/rare, and fair.
In fact UNO is one of a few "actual" up and running and trading of these much discussed "bitcoin side chains". It is time tested and proven. But it is also a gamble, not a sure thing. So wait until UNO trades @ 1.95 btc, because @ 0.00333ish it is not a sure thing.
I don't think an investment is the same as a "store of value". One may invest almost any amount in the hope of a return, but for something to be a practical store of value it requires a reasonable market cap.
I'd be delighted for UNO to trade at B1.95 but I'm not holding my breath, sadly.
Finally UNO is not a "side chain" of BTC, at least not in the terms set out in the sidechain white paper. Being merge-mined does not a sidechain make.
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