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Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 514. (Read 1047042 times)

legendary
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Amazed

Bitcoin Cost per Transaction    $8.21
(was as high as $80)
https://blockchain.info/charts/cost-per-transaction
straight from the horses mouth

[reward+fees/time] x SpotPrice$ = Network Co$t /time
per Transaction = Network Co$t /#transactions


#transactions = 88740 per Day
and still costs $8 to send 2 cents ... the HODLer of bitcoin pays btw

ok, this is new

Pretty insane. And will be more at higher prices. There is definately demand for altcoins which are more efficient.

Uno more stable and cheaper to transact aswell as good for holding longterm: can't loose

Later in the game there is going to be real demand for alts and every dev wasting their time with creating scams and shitcoins will regret not to have made something worthwhile. Everyone fell for the propaganda about how irrelevant alts would be. They are not! Only shitcoins are irrelevant. Quality longterm alts (such as Uno) will gain marketshare. There will be demand because Bitcoin could become too expensive to transact later. It's already much more expensive to transact (and to hold  Roll Eyes )

Welcome to the front lines of the currency wars!
hero member
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I think if you compare the nonstop bleeding in the btc market to the practically not existing bleeding in UNO - why do people even speculate on bitcoin? Nobody is doing the numbers or looking at fundamentals! Everyone just buys the hype, lol.
People looking at the fundamentals of coins are very, very few right now in crypto. Gotta feel a little like a pioneer around here.  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500

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Amazed

Bitcoin Cost per Transaction    $8.21
(was as high as $80)
https://blockchain.info/charts/cost-per-transaction
straight from the horses mouth

[reward+fees/time] x SpotPrice$ = Network Co$t /time
per Transaction = Network Co$t /#transactions


#transactions = 88740 per Day
and still costs $8 to send 2 cents ... the HODLer of bitcoin pays btw

ok, this is new

Pretty insane. And will be more at higher prices. There is definately demand for altcoins which are more efficient.

Uno more stable and cheaper to transact aswell as good for holding longterm: can't loose

Later in the game there is going to be real demand for alts and every dev wasting their time with creating scams and shitcoins will regret not to have made something worthwhile. Everyone fell for the propaganda about how irrelevant alts would be. They are not! Only shitcoins are irrelevant. Quality longterm alts (such as Uno) will gain marketshare. There will be demand because Bitcoin could become too expensive to transact later. It's already much more expensive to transact (and to hold  Roll Eyes )
hero member
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@coaex - LBMA certified Gold & Silver
lol @edgar.

I just got 10g of Gold from Coaex.com yesterday after paying with Uno.
Another feather in Coaex's hat, a bit more pm for me.

Thanks, FallingKnife. That shipment was a little bit delayed due to holiday season.
We have been shipping in regular time, now. We are also happy that you received that item at a bargain price! Smiley Hope you are happy with your purchases.

legendary
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Join The Blockchain Revolution In Logistics
the fantastic collapse of fiat currencies 2015-2020

solutions:
1. Danish Krone, Swiss Franc ?  Does it say redeemable for what on the note?
2. Bitcoin ? QE @ 2.5 new coins per minute ... QE until 2050 and beyond too!
3. Mature (or nearly mature) POW alt coins ... do U-know of one? //QE tappered out
4. Stake coins (but require staking network participation)
5. hold physical shiny metals

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Amazed

Bitcoin Cost per Transaction    $8.21
(was as high as $80)
https://blockchain.info/charts/cost-per-transaction
straight from the horses mouth

[reward+fees/time] x SpotPrice$ = Network Co$t /time
per Transaction = Network Co$t /#transactions


#transactions = 88740 per Day
and still costs $8 to send 2 cents ... the HODLer of bitcoin pays btw
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
lol @edgar.

I just got 10g of Gold from Coaex.com yesterday after paying with Uno.
Another feather in Coaex's hat, a bit more pm for me.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Bitcoin is acting weird. Have i been beartrapped? Or is it just another bulltrap?   Cheesy

Deam Bitcoin! Shorting euro was easier.
hero member
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About 1.5 days of messages gone?  Could have been a lot worse, I guess.

It was fun hanging out Reddit at http://reddit.com/r/unobtanium during the outtage. We've shown that we can transcend Bitcointalk.

I wonder if there's a way to export a thread, or back it up. It would be shame if bct went down permanently one day. A lot of Uno history would be wiped clean.

press 'print' bottom right corner and save page Wink

There is a mirror ar bitcointa.lk too

... but looks like it ended recording last year https://bitcointa.lk/threads/unobtanium-info-discusion-thread.287030/

and google cache could have a backup too (never used it myself)
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
About 1.5 days of messages gone?  Could have been a lot worse, I guess.

It was fun hanging out Reddit at http://reddit.com/r/unobtanium during the outtage. We've shown that we can transcend Bitcointalk.

I wonder if there's a way to export a thread, or back it up. It would be shame if bct went down permanently one day. A lot of Uno history would be wiped clean.
hero member
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so, given that QE is intended to go on for 'a while' and the currencies of China, Japan, UK, EU, US are destined for the toilet - are you 'all' parking your entire fiat wealth in cryptos/PMs??



Exactly. Just not holding a lot cash right now. Stockmarkets are too high too. If btc just wouldn't suck so much, that would be great  Tongue
IMZ
legendary
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‘This is open-ended QE . . . ‘

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/22/ecb-big-bazooka-bigger-than-expected-qe-stimulus

In brief, guys:

we have entered La La Land. QE is cheap money, and it’s reducing ‘outside’ interest (but the present Btc weirdness is mainly caused by other factors).

But more and more and more mainstream journalists understand that things are gonna get worse – which is why bullion is headed up.

Conclusion: the longer QE continues, the more fantastic the collapse of fiat currencies will be when it comes. Dig in like a tick!

[Another Dane commented about the Danish Krone being cut loose from its Euro peg – what Switzerland did. The race-to-the-bottom currency war now includes China, Japan, the U.K., 1.1. Trillion in the E.U., and don’t forget that the US Fed is still ‘easing’ in indirect ways, and hasn’t even begun raising interest rates. The Canadians have cut their currency’s interest rate.]
IMZ
legendary
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Bad Bitcointalk! And don't you wander off again!
hero member
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shortpositions on OKcoin, BTC rapidly increasing! Here comes the dropppp for Bitcoin  Tongue
hero member
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that psychological mark  Grin

last chance to sell below 0.01  Grin
hero member
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ZZZZzzzz~*!  Wha...~?  Hey, BCT is back up!  What did I miss?

WHOA!  Aye carumba!  Whales a breachin'!

Sucks all our last posts are missing from the thread.  We had some really great ones in there.  Birthday-worthy posts.

Sad
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sr. member
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Support deep in the books looks really good right now. Won't be long before you catch up with Litecoins' support at this rate. The sellwalls from last time run up are gone too. That jerk with his 500+ coins sellwalls last time who killed off the rally was successfully shaken from the tree (those walls were likely all the dumping on the 6s and 5s). I have the theory that epic dump last time was an extreme effort of shakeout (one whale shaking the other, successful). Hope we don't face those ton-large sellwalls again anytime soon so we don't need to live that pain again.
It's making progress anyhow. Market has been cleaned with that last dip is my personal impression.
Bagholders need to sell in areas/zones over some time. You can't exit a huge position with a huge sellwall in one place on an afternoon like the last guy tried (potatoe trader).
 
UNO starts to trade like a real commodity. Stability and small retracements from the rise are amazing. In case anyone is listening i'd recommend building strongest support before move to higher plains. The more stable it is traded the more appeal it will have longterm. If we have learned a thing from alts it's: if it rises too fast it tends to drop just as quickly. 0.0095 is very comfortable right now. Should be established as 'the normal zone' over next days (in case the crazy isn't going to break loose sooner). Because you trade against a volatile shitcoin mainly, leaving a bit room to the upside and not blasting through to the max is maybe wise in case the roman emperors decide to randomly pump their yoyo-coin so nobody get harmed when some people want to suddenly sell their uno for the outdated, decaying and volatile coin with the delusional following and 1-hour transactions which are currently whoring hardcore for institutional money to keep their expensive minerscam going a little longer.  Wink (yes, i loved BTC once and learned to hate it just recently)

(Bitcoin costs the market 5000$ every 10 minutes it operates at 200$ price - who's going to pay it? - there is no incentive for investement into bitcoin after this last hype has finally died off now. Now holding BTC means: pay up the maintenance costs.)

hero member
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Still, we won't give up.  Eventually, one of these days, someone who has a respected platform is going rediscover Unobtanium.

Exactly! In due time. If you build it, they will come lol Cheesy
legendary
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keybase.io/fallingknife/
@Benefactor, congrats on the Hero member status!  Well deserved. Respect!

@smalltimer, I just realized that this thread is almost 10 months old. That's ancient in crypto terms.

There are many long timers still here, who you can trace back to the first few pages of the thread.

This community has far exceeded my humble goals when I began the thread. Having the continuity of dedicated participants and long term investors in UNO has made this discussion one of the most interesting diversions in my day.  

I don't think it will be much longer until people realize that Uno needs to be back up at that $3/Un price. The price of Uno is deceptively low, thanks to the ever falling value of Bitcoin.

Telling the Uno story is my favorite thing to do. But cutting through all of the noise in the cryptsphere to be heard is very difficult.  Media is always looking for the big controversy, or the next big coin, or the current big scam.   Stability, store-of-value, continuity, community.... that's all too boring to the altcoin/bitcoin media.  

Still, we won't give up.  Eventually, one of these days, someone who has a respected platform is going rediscover Unobtanium.
sr. member
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When the crowd slams into the books (like they always do) be-careful to not dump it all.  

hehe. I don't 'dump' coins of this format, especially not to a greedy mob. In UNO case i am confident they'll take it from my hands at the price i make for them.
It's true: holding the 2$ value is already an overachievement in this altcoin-scene. We should tell people staight in the face "Uno has been more stable than bitcoin or any other coin in the longterm" (strong message, backed up by actual tradehistory)
25% per annum is a healthy estimate. But i doubt we can avoid more volatility once the crowd catches on.   Cheesy

Uno at LTC marketcap would be 200$+ so i'd like to see 100$ bare minimum for this coin. Doesn't matter if it's next week or 2017. Maybe i wouldn't even sell out once it hits my target.


Hi, Smallminer! Look at the post above yours. We've been working hard on developing fiat-Uno connections/price-independence for months.

Our in-house currency has performed brilliantly in recent months -- held its $-value. Full stop.

Come and join the effort: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unobtanium-in-house-exchange-757232

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I'll have a look. Like your experiments. For myself i prefer the fast and descrete automated exchange. But it's good you build something we can conveniently fall back on in case the exchanges fail.



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I think this thread is refreshing compared to the rest of the forum right now. Keep it up  Wink
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