Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 521. (Read 1047042 times)
January 12, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
There are limits. Each transaction need give some fee. Rising block size is a must in bitcoin, but it need to be put together witch UTXO consensus database to allow ppl run "almost" full node w/o need to download and hold 40+GB of block chain data.
January 12, 2015, 07:05:20 AM
Innocent and ignorant question here, smalltimer (or anyone) - can any block chain be spammed to maliciously increase the block chain size? This basically entails making many tiny transactions to ultimately cripple the network, yeah? I'd never thought of this, but what's to stop any coin being attacked like this? Interesting.
January 12, 2015, 06:45:43 AM
bitcoin attempting hardfork without consensus and everyone who disagrees is called names.
Source?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fork-off-919629
Read that. The most vocal people care the least about consensus. They would love to get rid of it.
I'll be buying uno on bitcoinmarket with my coins and sell them later for doge and ltc (maybe ripple too). Meet me on the other markets. Bitcoin is a dead cat for me. I'll go with the altcoins. Going to avoid bitcoin for a little while.
Since i posted about the possibility to spam their ass and make every block 20MB it has become pretty silent in there. They didn't even think of malicous spam. All they can do is being sheep. They think they are smart but they do miss the most basic stuff. With this leadership and community of bagholders i don't see much future for bitcoin. I think bitcoin has become corrupt. I do no longer believe in its success.
Likely the fork will not happen (if it does it'll end bitcoin) but this thread has shown me i don't want to hold a lot of these bitcoins.
Bitcoiners reach consensus by ignoring (or calling names) everyone with a different opinion. That's an early sign of fail.
January 12, 2015, 06:29:44 AM
bitcoin attempting hardfork without consensus and everyone who disagrees is called names.
Source?
January 12, 2015, 06:05:22 AM
A hard fork without consensus will be a catastrophe however we often see a vocal minority on the internet.
Bitcoin imho will need a fork, maybe two maybe more. It is unlikely that without some level of technical adaption it will be able to compete in the grand scheme of things. First to market provides only so much steam.
Bitcoin imho will need a fork, maybe two maybe more. It is unlikely that without some level of technical adaption it will be able to compete in the grand scheme of things. First to market provides only so much steam.
January 12, 2015, 04:04:17 AM
bitcoin attempting hardfork without consensus and everyone who disagrees is called names.
I was just called an idiot for hinting to possible problems. I think bitcoin just lost a lot of his attraction. Buying Uno, Litecoin and other independant coins is advised. These crooks are all corrupt and think they are above everyone else. I am about to divest from bitcoin and shift my money to other coins. They clearly have hit a dead end and it's not going to end well for bitcoin.
If you have a brain you do not trade for more bitcoin, you trade for more altcoin.
I was just called an idiot for hinting to possible problems. I think bitcoin just lost a lot of his attraction. Buying Uno, Litecoin and other independant coins is advised. These crooks are all corrupt and think they are above everyone else. I am about to divest from bitcoin and shift my money to other coins. They clearly have hit a dead end and it's not going to end well for bitcoin.
If you have a brain you do not trade for more bitcoin, you trade for more altcoin.
January 12, 2015, 02:21:59 AM
“I believe the bottom will be seen when you can buy silver at a discount using bitcoin compared to buying silver directly with United States Dollars. That places the bitcoin price at a 98%+ crash from the all time high.”
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113277/when-will-the-price-of-bitcoin-bottom-out
Best article I’ve read in months
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113277/when-will-the-price-of-bitcoin-bottom-out
Best article I’ve read in months
January 11, 2015, 11:59:33 PM
Don't be frighted by UNO's price as measured in a deflating Bitcoin currency.
The price of UNO is not so high in USD terms.
It's a still a buy for new money (USD>BTC>UNO).
Imho.
The price of UNO is not so high in USD terms.
It's a still a buy for new money (USD>BTC>UNO).
Imho.
price isn't high at all. Retracement is still very much in the trend. Buy the dip.
January 11, 2015, 11:29:09 PM
For the Record
IMZ purchased 25 from-miner-striaght-to-core-community Unobtanium at .01 Btc each.
It isn't a complete solution, but it's a recognition of the need to act.
MM, go!
@ FK: second acquisition period!
January 11, 2015, 08:57:43 PM
Don't be frighted by UNO's price as measured in a deflating Bitcoin currency.
The price of UNO is not so high in USD terms.
It's a still a buy for new money (USD>BTC>UNO).
Imho.
The price of UNO is not so high in USD terms.
It's a still a buy for new money (USD>BTC>UNO).
Imho.
January 11, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Did you see the Cryptsy wallet move yesterday? Nearly $117,000 USD of value moved on the Uno blockchain yesterday in one transaction.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/block.dws?00000000000009e1e7d78a05faa3bad3d39919ae70a3f60c9db80a269f50ef52.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uQS2HAkNx1aJ3NTnwoZGb9uSGyrUJbMy1L.htm
46,202.8 KG
46.2 Tons
#1 drop 200kg
into #2
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uc12eLRge9C8mSS3CQnirTzVQu2BcoPCe3.htm
Balance
6,814.45
January 11, 2015, 10:09:59 AM
Did you see the Cryptsy wallet move yesterday? Nearly $117,000 USD of value moved on the Uno blockchain yesterday in one transaction.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/block.dws?00000000000009e1e7d78a05faa3bad3d39919ae70a3f60c9db80a269f50ef52.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uQS2HAkNx1aJ3NTnwoZGb9uSGyrUJbMy1L.htm
46,202.8 KG
46.2 Tons
#1 drop 200kg
into #2
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uc12eLRge9C8mSS3CQnirTzVQu2BcoPCe3.htm
Balance
6,814.45
January 11, 2015, 08:32:09 AM
Uno at this moment:
51 THS on the network right now. Price matters, as if we need any more proof.
Difficulty soars past 2 million. Is IMZ to blame for this?
Uno is #33 currency in marketcap according to CoinMarketCap.com
Price of Uno
Uno is #22 most profitable sha256 coin on Coinwarz.
Did you see the Cryptsy wallet move yesterday? Nearly $117,000 USD of value moved on the Uno blockchain yesterday in one transaction.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/block.dws?00000000000009e1e7d78a05faa3bad3d39919ae70a3f60c9db80a269f50ef52.htm
And today's rich list, for posterity:
51 THS on the network right now. Price matters, as if we need any more proof.
Difficulty soars past 2 million. Is IMZ to blame for this?
Uno is #33 currency in marketcap according to CoinMarketCap.com
Price of Uno
Uno is #22 most profitable sha256 coin on Coinwarz.
Did you see the Cryptsy wallet move yesterday? Nearly $117,000 USD of value moved on the Uno blockchain yesterday in one transaction.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/block.dws?00000000000009e1e7d78a05faa3bad3d39919ae70a3f60c9db80a269f50ef52.htm
And today's rich list, for posterity:
January 11, 2015, 07:44:59 AM
@ Prominerone -- how much?
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
Big difference!
MM, go!
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
Big difference!
MM, go!
I was paying electricity bills between 800 to 1000 $ every month for those monsters and pay electric guy 2000 just to set properly el.lines on the house...
And the noise is terrible even when they are to the other side of the house. The last months I was kipped my miners outside the house on the yard,but not anymore. Too much snow now damn man 
I'm finished my mining adventure - maybe you understand my point. It was hobby but not easy. To be a miner is a very uncomfortable. I don't want anything for me ,but for other miners that is still out there! Those guys deserve it. They deserve special price and Unobtanium deserve the biggest hash network.My power bill and the end of nov was over $2000, its at $1100 right now. I havent seen a profit for awhile, only in trading and paycoin(had most of my kncs apart) I still have most of the miners I bought($30 000 worth, but not counting the 6 antminers i bought from the first 6 batches) It was -40 last night, I have 1.8th mining uno and only 450 g/h on btc and I have a first day order of a gridseed 5 chip dual miner that will never pay for itself. But I started mining in aug of 11, just to make extra money to buy a bigger video card to game with. I havent bought any hardware for over a year now and Im waiting for more efficient miners to hit the market. But, its been a great year! I worked last jan and then took the next 5 months off but had to go back to work in july(I only work 15 days/month) I started as a hobby and prob will end a hobby too.
January 11, 2015, 07:13:34 AM
random factoid:
the monthly inflation is soaked up in less than 1 days trading.
the rest is liquidity trading.
check the math (only using the brain calculator)
i am getting something on the rate of 45min trading covers 24hrs inflation.
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random find:
http://wiki.cryptsy.com/uno
http://coinwik.org/Unobtanium
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random opinion:
I am calling all POS that have failed to enter their 'sustain' phase before 2016
"crap ... worthless" (they can transfer/wire value but will not hold value)
UNO is not there yet (but will be shortly)
Until a coin is near or past the 'decay'/'inflation gravity' of say 2% (ideally less than 0.25%)
then the investor is wasting $$$ and being foolish
miners/mining must continue via a dependency on FEEs alone
then coins/networks will compete for: lowest costs, fastest transactions, stability, liquidity
Doge is seems qualified by these standards BUT still suffers +5% inflation 'sustain' rewards.
UNO, CGB, and ix = the best primed to invest
RBBT, infiniti, rzr and zeta = good numbers but network issues
quark is nice @ 0.5%
Anyone see other POS that have matured and have low 'sustain' rewards?
the monthly inflation is soaked up in less than 1 days trading.
the rest is liquidity trading.
check the math (only using the brain calculator)
i am getting something on the rate of 45min trading covers 24hrs inflation.
=========================
random find:
http://wiki.cryptsy.com/uno
http://coinwik.org/Unobtanium
=========================
random opinion:
I am calling all POS that have failed to enter their 'sustain' phase before 2016
"crap ... worthless" (they can transfer/wire value but will not hold value)
UNO is not there yet (but will be shortly)
Until a coin is near or past the 'decay'/'inflation gravity' of say 2% (ideally less than 0.25%)
then the investor is wasting $$$ and being foolish
miners/mining must continue via a dependency on FEEs alone
then coins/networks will compete for: lowest costs, fastest transactions, stability, liquidity
Doge is seems qualified by these standards BUT still suffers +5% inflation 'sustain' rewards.
UNO, CGB, and ix = the best primed to invest
RBBT, infiniti, rzr and zeta = good numbers but network issues
quark is nice @ 0.5%
Anyone see other POS that have matured and have low 'sustain' rewards?
January 11, 2015, 06:47:01 AM
Thanks, Prominerone. You have given Ian and I very very important information. My resources are limited, but 10% premium for newly-mined coin will be an ethical standpoint for me from now on.
MM, go!
MM, go!
January 11, 2015, 05:27:08 AM
@ Prominerone -- how much?
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
Big difference!
MM, go!
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
Big difference!
MM, go!
I was paying electricity bills between 800 to 1000 $ every month for those monsters and pay electric guy 2000 just to set properly el.lines on the house...
And the noise is terrible even when they are to the other side of the house. The last months I was kipped my miners outside the house on the yard,but not anymore. Too much snow now damn man I'm finished my mining adventure - maybe you understand my point. It was hobby but not easy. To be a miner is a very uncomfortable. I don't want anything for me ,but for other miners that is still out there! Those guys deserve it. They deserve special price and Unobtanium deserve the biggest hash network. January 11, 2015, 02:24:47 AM
@ Prominerone -- how much?
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
Oooh that's awesome.
January 11, 2015, 02:03:15 AM
@ Prominerone -- how much?
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
Big difference!
MM, go!
IMZ even discussed paying a miner's electricity bill, and having the miner send the appropriate amount of mined coin straight to you. This would (of course you'd deliver receipts to the Government once a fortnight) be one way of creating-selling coin P2P , whereas at present our 'P2P' system is buying-with-fiat-selling P2P.
Big difference!
MM, go!
January 11, 2015, 01:37:37 AM
My Position:
ACTIVATE
UNO Just Minted premiums: blood hell yes
DVC buildup ... more Bullion pledges
LIPS Liquidity Pledges: yes
PENDING
Frozen Equity Pledge: yes (pledge drive march15-April15)
Coretanium: price support communal pool (needs details/tradebots?)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10102246
Un-Real: price support Real things you can get at fixed kg. rates
merge-mine. Forthwith +2 ... waiting for Dev feedback / blog a white paper >> then push to active
ACTIVATE
UNO Just Minted premiums: blood hell yes
DVC buildup ... more Bullion pledges
LIPS Liquidity Pledges: yes
PENDING
Frozen Equity Pledge: yes (pledge drive march15-April15)
Coretanium: price support communal pool (needs details/tradebots?)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10102246
Un-Real: price support Real things you can get at fixed kg. rates
merge-mine. Forthwith +2 ... waiting for Dev feedback / blog a white paper >> then push to active
Quote
“UNO is an interesting case study because it is decades ahead of Bitcoin in terms of having passed through it's inflationary period. Today Unobtnaium is subjected to extremely low daily inflation, with just 15 Uno being added to supply daily. The next halving is expected in March, 2015” says Falling Knife, the Unobtanium community leader.
“We are past the inflationary phase,” says Falling Knife, “with only 193,000 tokens currently minted of the 250,00 maximum, it will take nearly 300 years to reach the supply limit.”
“We are past the inflationary phase,” says Falling Knife, “with only 193,000 tokens currently minted of the 250,00 maximum, it will take nearly 300 years to reach the supply limit.”
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