Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 773. (Read 1047217 times)

guys, i need still more opinions for the poll. At least 15 or 20 would be good. I got rid of the groups because richlist told me it is not that important since the distribution of uno is pretty alright.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Unobtanium/comments/23zr4d/opinionpoll_with_the_goal_of_predicting_future/

Just leave your estimate on next 3 months average, next 3 months high, next 3 months low and price on 1st of august here in the thread, on reddit or drop me a pm so i can actually do some magic with the data. So far only one person answered. Please make it 20 so the data is usefull. Thanks a lot. For those who don't want to click links here is the text again:

"Hello Unobtaniumcommunity. I wanted to do a little experiment with you. The background is this: hypothetically speaking, if all owners of unotanium would agree on a price that would be reality then but to just set that price and say nobody sells below that will not be working. Also trust can not be asked for in this market. But the hypothetical fact remains. Some of you may have heard about the 'wisdom of crowds'-theory which states that a group of people together will be able to do cognitive things an individual can not do. Watch this amazing 5minute video from the bcc to understand where i am coming from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOucwX7Z1HU
My idea was to make an opinionpoll for the holders of Unobtanium. The theory is: if i could get every holder of uno to participate and give his/her best guesstimate on future pricedevelopement and afterwards average all the guesses to one number - i think that number must be very close to what the actual price will be. Step2: If this turns out to be the case and all your guesses combined are actually coming close to what the future is and this can be repeated we could give out graphs based on these opinionpolls again and again. If they proove accurate volatility would be reduced a decent bit over time since everybody has a map to navigate on which is based on these opinionpolls and thus on the opinion of the group as a whole. Reduced volatility is something that many coins tried to achieve in various ways. None was able to do it. Uno could be the first coin that achieves it if this method works out. Remember: crypto is psychological
That for an introduction. This is only an experiment and we do not know if this will be successful or not. I think it is worth a try. Your participation is volutary of course but i want to state that the more opinions i could gather the better and more accurate the outcome will be. So what i am asking everybody is to copy the questions below, fill them in and leave your guess as a comment here.
The questions:
guess on next 3-months high: [your guess here]
guess on next 3-months low: [your guess here]
guess on next 3-months average: [your guess here]
on 1st of august this year the price for uno will be: [your guess here]
please use price in btc not usd
If after 3 months we are coming close to what you as a group predicted we will repeat this to see if it matches again. I think this could be a fun experiment with possible benefits for uno (reduced volatility if it works time and time again and it could also generate positive attention if it works out). So i hope everyone takes part. You have 14 days to send the answers before i calculate the results."

please help with this. i need YOUR opinion. Best would be to get ALL opinions/guesses/estimates of holders of uno. Thanks for participating.

vote for uno to be added at ccex:
https://c-cex.com/?id=vote

open bazaar:
i had a quick search.
is this a hidden service on an onion-page or is this a decentralized network like bitcoin where i have to run a special software?
In any case: how can we make sure only metal and legal products are traded if we fork it for uno? We probably can't. I personally am not very keen on seeing uno be used for drugtrades. Let's not get uno involved with illigal stuff too much.
If it was possible for us on the other hand to fork it and still prevent dealing of guns, drugs and porn i would support it for sure. Let's leave the hardcore illigal stuff to other coins though.

a few short thoughts from me regarding anonymity:
if soopy wants to remain anonymous we should not pressure him to do otherwise. I myself also value my anonymity very much because it protects me.
I am sure as time passes we will find one or more marketingpersons who are willing to show their faces. That also needs to be the right persons. Bryce would be really good for that. If Bryce was willing to lend his name to uno and help it to thrive others could join in showing their face as time passes. Those of us who want to remain anonymous for now (including but not limited to soopy) should have the right to do so.
As regulations and laws surrounding crypto become more clear and less of a unknown hazard i am sure more and more people are willing to let their anonymity go. If a person lives in a state that is hostile towards crypto for example that person has a very good reason to remain anonymous to be able to continue to work in the area.
I agree with soopy on the point that it is about the work and the actions people show - identities are really of secondary order.
Of course it is nice to know who exactly is behind a project but it is not a thing of the first order.  
I am sure as time goes by and regulations become more clear more people will come forward with their identities.
Right now i support the idea of getting Bryce on board very much. I think he is a good guy and would be great support for us when it comes to making uno more widely known.

let's be real about it: in this forum 99% of the members are anon. Not being anon is a risk for becoming a target. Everybody has to carefully decide for themselves if and when they want to take that risk for themselves.
This is still the very early days of crypto.


regarding open bazaar: i will look into that.
regarding price: just stop selling at low prices. My uno is not that cheap - i am sure though as soon as the technical issues are fixed we go flying to Pluto and beyond. Use the opportunity to fill your baskets because as soon the fork lies behind us you will wish you would have bought more at these low prices.

also: let's never stop working on new services and other goodies. We are actually creating value right now. Let's keep that up for the long term. Uno can be and should be up 1000% in the future. 1Uno = 1Ltc is the least that should be expected. Let's make it happen. Keep the goodies coming. This is a great coin and very likely will soon be one of the big boys in cryptotown.  

Like the idea of open bazaar. Would be happy to list my Physical silver and copper gox coins on there.

Hello Unobtanables   Love this coin.....

Just popping by to let you know I've just put up a public p2pool Unobtanium node:  http://iyftech.zapto.org:9655

Use your payment address & any password you like, eg:  "cgminer -Q 0 -o stratum+tcp://iyftech.zapto.org:9655 -u PayoutAddress -p xxx"

Hopefully we can spread the word about Unobtanium to the masses  

Greets from the UK 

Regards.

Gliss from Coinmarketcap has updated our block explorer to cryptexplorer.com/chain/Unobtanium: http://coinmarketcap.com/

I'd like to participate, too.  I can put up 100oz or more, depending on market conditions/ and the complexity of price fluctuations in these pairs:  Ag/USD, BTC/USD, and Un/BTC.  How is the escrow/trust worked out, exactly?  I know since I'm holding phizz, I would wait until the irreversible Un payment is received or in escrow, and shipping is easy with tracking.  What's in it for the Un sellers?  Do they still get to look to individuals for their trust reputation?  I mean, what's the format of these trades?

Okay, thanks for the info FK! I'll contact the owner of CMC and I'll get him to switch us over to cryexplorer.com/chain/Unobtanium. I'll ask him to please just swap us over, and not to temporarily de-list us. I'll post back here when its done.

i think we should keep an eye on the OpenBazaar project and if a decentralized market is indeed possible, we should find someone who can clone it ASAP and then you, me, and maybe some other guys can each list 1kg of silver for sale in unobtanium to get it started.  

the more i'm thinking about a traditional online storefront, the less i like it, because it requires everyone to put trust in one person.  but a decentralized market would only require trust in the crowd...which for something like a precious metal exchange makes a lot more sense to me.

but just to be clear, if you set up a traditional online storefront where individuals can sell precious metals, i would order a decent stash of fractional and one ounce rounds to sell.  i know it would be a break even scenario at first, but i'm looking for the long term payout down the road when uno is worth what we all know it should be.

I see.

If you're willing to reach out to coinmarketcap (and any other that need it), I would recommend them in this order:

http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/Unobtanium
http://bit.usr.sh:2750/chain/Unobtanium
https://uno.cryptocoins.at/explorer/chain/unobtanium

I have a direct contact at cryptexplorer, our newest blockchain. I'm sure he'll do good by us.

I'll also send out some more messages about rockchain.info, but not holding my breath. Since they appear to be unresponsive and unreliable, cryptexplorer seems like the best option to me at this moment.

I think we should keep using the same IRC channel.  I've chatted with mxtm in the past (he's the maintainer for the Arch Linux AUR of Unobtanium wallet) and he's still in the channel.

We need soopy!  We cannot have him quit      I also hear you, there's no premine to pay soopy for his work and time and I don't think he was there in the beginning to mine Uno.

I wish to purchase more Uno and hope to be able to contribute to the development of soopy.

My concerns are same as yours.  I see a mention of a fork for fixing the timewarp attack and (and maybe other issues).  I don't know if it's a mandatory fork...  I know you're communicating with exchanges.  We also need the major holders of Uno to be aware so we're all on the same page.

I wish to learn how to code, but I think it will be a very long time before I can contribute to anything to Uno development...

Hi FallingKnife!

The problem is that Coinmarketcap.com is taking its block explorer feed from Rockchain.info. Since thats been off for 24 days now, our total UNO outstanding has been stuck at the same value for more than three weeks. I don't want to contact the operator of Coinmarketcap because his kneejerk reaction will be to de-list us until we give him an alternate block explorer. Here is the problem: if we give him another block explorer to use, how do we know for sure that they won't turn their explorer off too at some point without telling us? That is why I keep harping on the concept that we need people who are COMMITTED to making UNO look good. We need people who bring 100% commitment all of the time, not just when it is convenient to them. Soopy brings 100% all of the time, and so do you. We just need someone in charge of the website, main block explorer, and promotion of UNO that does the same.

+1

These are exciting times to be part of the UNO community. I'm about to go buy some more more on Cryptsy!

Woah, these 2 weeks seem like an explosion in the UNO community. Everybody is finally coming out of the trenches.

The past 2 months it seemed almost dead with only occasional sparks of activity. Now look at this. We have dozens of people commenting, posting their ideas and giving suggestions about future directions for UNO. When I asked people to share their ideas a few pages back I never expected so much exciting stuff to be honest.

And we finally have a great dev again, Soopy. And a great community leader, FallingKnife. I am excited and thrilled to see this. Lets keep this momentum.

Yes, its still our IRC channel. I still see the old crew there but I don't see many responses. I usually only check IRC if there's something exciting going on with UNO. I don't see any reason why we can't keep using this IRC channel, do you?

We have 3 other working block explorers (see OP), so we're ok there.
I've reached out a few different ways to try and get Rockchain.info fixed up, but no success yet.
Rockchain is a cool explorer... I hope we can find the right person to get it running again.

Yeah, well I reject that suggestion. That's not your best idea so far, SoopY

Is the irc channel still #Unobtanium on freenode?

I think many of the original Uno holders are still there...

There's been some great discussion here. I am THRILLED to see all of the ideas and excitement surrounding UNO.  

Look where we were just a month ago.  Look where we are now.

Community is SO important to the success of any coin. I've always known that UNO had a passionate community. That's one of the reasons I invested xx% of my UNO back into this coin.

I look at the UNO price...  Hanging around. .048.  WTF?  What a bargain.  .005 for a coin where there is less than 185k and will EVER be 250k.
Where there is active PASSIONATE community.
Where there is ACTIVE and CARING Dev.
Where there are TOP exchanges trading UNO.
There are POWERFUL miners fighting over an ever decreasing reward.
Where there WAS a fair start.
Where there IS a 7 month history and fairplay (poor AsiaCoin), which means lower risk
Where there are NOT an infinite number of coins being dumped onto the market by disinterested miners (infinite DOGE? No thanks)
Where there IS a way for business to accept this currency (cointpayments.net)
Where there ARE services like paper wallet and gambling (cryptap.us/uno/paperwallet, cryptap.us/uno/dice )
I'm GLAD you are thinking about a new UNO website. That's awesome. Go DO IT!
I'm HAPPY there's talk about hiring 3 full time Devs! Let's pay SoopY a full time wage and then hire 2 more Devs.   God, does that show optimism about UNO!
I LOVE the commodity backing idea of UNO... what a interesting "outside the box" idea!

I it said before... YOU are the "U" in UNO.  This is YOUR coin.  Put it up and make it happen!  Lead and we will follow. This is a community driven coin.  You can make it happen with UNO.  

We're super fortunate to have SoopY working with us. He already solved several UNO wallet issues. He's helping people with problems in this thread. AND he's nearly finished the Fork that will protect UNO from timewarp attacks.

I've been in touch with exchanges.... Cryptsy and Mintpal are aboard with a fork.  I have been the one slowing things (not SoopY), because it's crucial that we get this right. We CANNOT misfire on a fork. I am a software company owner, and (sadly) I have misfired on releases and it sucks, big big time to fail on a release. The exchanges will not tolerate it (did you see how many exchanges quickly dumped AC?).   WE as a community will NOT misfire on a UNO fork... but that means we need to go deliberately. We can't just say "Here it is!"  We need to prepare the stake holders.  

I've asked for someone to volunteer to identify and help manage our active Mining Pools. Will you be that person?  Because we CANNOT fail our miners. Someone needs to be the trusted face to our mining community. Will it be you?

Will you also be that person to donate generously to SoopY for his work?  He cares about UNO, but he needs to live, too.  What about our other 2 proposed devs?   Will you also be generous to them? We don't have a UNO pre-mine to pay them with... this is a community effort so we will all need to put up.

One thing that would make it easier to pay for UNO development is if UNO were more valuable.  Since UNO is our currency, why is it so cheap?  We need to get this coin up to reflect it's actual worth. With all it has going for it, with all the rarity, services, community and active development, I really believe we should be up nearer to .01.  I am going to buy another 500 UNO over the next 2 weeks (or sooner). I hope you'll join me in getting this coin back to where it should be.  

For all it's assets, you (the community) are it's biggest asset.  I'm so glad you are in the UNO community. Let's make it happen!  And I am not proposing "Pump & Dump."  But clearly, UNO is seems very undervalued for its assets, community, network and services. The floor should be .01, imo.  That's where I value it.

If you're willing to lead UNO, or contribute time, or help, or donate, or cheer/post/write/comment we can take this coins places where Wolong never dreamed.

Please don't hear this post in a facetious or skeptical internal voice. Rather, add-in the excitement and optimism that I truly feel about UNO, and that I sense that you also feel.  Or why would any of us be here? There's something special about UNO -- U-kNOw it.