Unobtanium In-House Exchange - page 21.

cragv

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Quote from: IMZ on March 03, 2015, 10:07:01 PM

All is well, guys. This is 'where we are today.' cragv has one small change to make -- I understand he's having a rest -- then I will post a bid for a coupla DVC.

Have been unwell since Friday last week, still getting better. Am low on energy and am resting until I'm better. Will be back. Much interesting reading here that I've not kept up with but am looking forward to getting on top of again soon!

Ian:
Cryptocurrency stickers: I wouldn't think so; what is their purpose?
Cryptourrency t-shirts: Again, those who want such shirts are already wearing them (or they're in bags after forgotten tech shows).
Desgin Services accepting crypto currencies: Possibly, but moreso when cryptos are more widely held.
Technical Services Accepting crypto currencies: I'd like to think so, but have had no experience with people approaching my (niche) technical services business that has accepted cryptos as payment since ~2011.

Best wishes to your friend and his new venture. Hope I'm wrong and that there are Australians with cryptos ready to pay for digital and technical services right now.

IMZ

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Un-Ex Daily Update    4/3/2015    [Western Australia – a half a day ahead of the U.S.]

Un-Ex Trade Tracker    | Tech Support thread for UNO newcomers

Unobtanium 'solid': .0140/.0122


Markets: Cryptsy; Bittrex; Bleutrade; AllCrypt; Coinbroker

Trusted Traders:   on IndiaMikeZulu.com and on the Un-Ex Trade Tracker

DVC: 9.11kg UNO

'Core-tanium' (see the list on the Un-Ex Trade Tracker):
This is BTC pledged as anti-dump ammo (fiat pledges will be added). Holding address: 1DG6gjrZ6XyzSUBA6GBrhra5FSQwkiQy7y

IMZ Mark 0.25
Benefactor 0.1
Sirsmokesalotta 0.32
Bitcoin Charlie 1.0

Liquidity Pledges (see the list on the Trade Tracker):

Local Chapter - Australia
- cragv, $100
- IMZ Mark: $AU 250 (by March 31st)
Local Chapter - USA
- Bitcoin Charlie, $500
International
- Bitcoin National, 100 Uno @ $3.15 (Paypal)

'Frozen' UNO:

Guyinanutshell, 100 Uno, until May 1, 2015, @ uUB5igPeTMUXxfAqMVQ15FidQmtomemJbL (at least to practise setting up separate wallets for equity DVC)

IanRidgwell

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Just a quick shout out.

Is there anyone in this community who has an opinion on the market for:

Cryptocurrency stickers

Cryptourrency t-shirts

Desgin Services accepting crypto currencies

Technical Services Accepting crypto currencies

Just getting a feel for something that people always 'say' they are going to do but never seems to materialise. I have a freind whos interested in starting up but I am concerned about a true market for such goods.

IMZ

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An 'option' is:

"A financial derivative that represents a contract sold by one party (option writer) to another party (option holder). The contract offers the buyer the right, but not the obligation, to buy (call) or sell (put) a security or other financial asset at an agreed-upon price (the strike price) during a certain period of time or on a specific date (exercise date)."

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/option.asp

IMZ

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IMZ

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Yes, elaborate please.

@ 'value first; then launch': here is IMZ's theory/background on this:

IndiaMikeZulu has theorised three coins, and launched two -- DVC is our fifth (and Un-Ex is our fifth exchange). 'Omega Coin,' the first was a white paper on how a trust-system could be created first, on a non-cryptographic system, then the community would shift to the actual crypto-graphic currency.

'Multi-Phase Coin' was similar, with the added idea that -- again, with the community as the core -- a currency could go through several phases of development, which allows problems to be solved along the way.

'Guerilla Fruit-Tree Coin' would be a currency 'backed' by (say) 100,000 fruit trees growing in publicly-accessible places. It would be based in the world's thriving guerilla-gardening movement, and require development of a Verification system that governed a 'slow release' of coins (based on you calling the local Verifier out on her bicycle to prove to her that you had healthy trees growing). Lots and lots of room for post-economic-collapse implementation here!

And now DVC: build the community, and attach the coins (etc.) as you go.

Are we in some sort of agreement here, B.N.?

Guyinanutshell

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Quote from: BitcoinNational on March 03, 2015, 08:49:50 AM

@all

seeing all that low hanging fruit is making me wanting more UN

but I don't want to dump B for A to get the bitcoins

is anyone willing to entertain options?
eg ... 10kg for $40 payable March 31 (so you'll make around $5 per contract if you carry the UN until March 31)

I'm not entirely clear on options, but interested! could you elaborate please? so a 5 yr. old could understand; if that's possible.

cheers
guy

BitcoinNational

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@all

seeing all that low hanging fruit is making me wanting more UN

but I don't want to dump B for A to get the bitcoins

is anyone willing to entertain options?
eg ... 10kg for $40 payable March 31 (so you'll make around $5 per contract if you carry the UN until March 31)

BitcoinNational

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@M
"we don't move beyond the present level of complexity"

agree.

1. Make the product valuable (first)
2. Launch it / IPO (second)

(crypto world has been doing this backwards)

IMZ

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Hey, B.N.!

One: ask cragv about 'something you can hold in your hand.' He has a great idea for a product.

Two: 'B2B' is indeed us, and the rockchain is easy to use. B u t . . . I think my point stands. I am not a computer person. I see that tech-savvy folk overlook how hard it is get set up.

Three: this I like: "the pitch:
accept BTC,LTC,Ripple
insta trade to UNO to store your digital value"

However, for at least six or eight months, I would beg that we don't move beyond the present level of complexity (with DVC trading built into cragv's spreadseet). Why? 'Cause we need more DVC holders/more DVC issued (equity DVC).

The fabulous success of DVC has made it low-volume. If we set up a more extensive trading system for DVC, it wouldn't work simply because there aren't enough to go around!

m

BitcoinNational

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re: "Big Tech Startups and small-business crypto acceptance -- is booming"

and they are getting suckered into holding bitcoin in a bear market or else pay a 3rd party 8-10% to cashout

BIG OPPORTUNITY ... b2b uno

the pitch:
accept BTC,LTC,Ripple
insta trade to UNO to store your digital value

then pull cash in big chunks (if needed)
but as time goes forward
they will leave more and more capital in digital assets

BitcoinNational

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re: ideas for using sidechains here

1. Bryce seems to have indicated he's making UNO a sidechain friendly platform.
2. okay fine. makes us ready for the future.
3. what good are they? something about 'frozen equity' contained within the chain ... ohh I think in-house already has something like that Wink

(my guess) sidechains are like any Altcoin
tech is one thing --- value is another thing

I like DP as a 'sidechain' to push-trade DVCs
1. cheap (pay in doge)
2. easy

Idea wise any derivative can be traded on DP (just like NXT)
but the trade floor is right here on UnEx
(my guess) is a DP asset can be listed and traded on an exchange website (Polo is already doing this)
so that's the future

BitcoinNational

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re: Everyone is madly busy
"Everyone has no room for any new system that has an arrogant attitude to its own acceptance."

True. Very True.

But I don't think UNO ought be to concerned with usability. It is still light and easy as a wallet.
Sidechain products (like DP) can do the 'design' work for us.
outsource

Our concern is more with making UNO a clear choice as an asset to hold in your digital portfolio.

My idea now (for long term storage by the "Madly Busy" crowd) ... UnEx trust network + "the Mall" + regional chapters = 'trusted merchants' and secure physical wallets. Make it something you hold in hand ... like a bank note Wink

IMZ

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Quote from: Benefactor on March 02, 2015, 10:04:13 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNational on February 27, 2015, 06:02:26 AM

DogeParty is an easy to use online wallet (no blockchain -ing)
https://wallet.dogeparty.io

...So is this a sidechain, then? I thought this is something like what a sidechain would look like. Damn shame everyone was so scared of it on here.

Any ideas for using sidechains here in Un-Ex? I'm all ears.

IMZ

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Un-Ex Daily Update    3/3/2015    [Western Australia – a half a day ahead of the U.S.]

Un-Ex Trade Tracker    | Tech Support thread for UNO newcomers

Unobtanium 'solid': .0149/.0130

Markets: Cryptsy; Bittrex; Bleutrade; AllCrypt; Coinbroker

Trusted Traders:   on IndiaMikeZulu.com and on the Un-Ex Trade Tracker

DVC: 8.29kg UNO

'Core-tanium' (see the list on the Un-Ex Trade Tracker):
This is BTC pledged as anti-dump ammo (fiat pledges will be added). Holding address: 1DG6gjrZ6XyzSUBA6GBrhra5FSQwkiQy7y

IMZ Mark 0.25
Benefactor 0.1
Sirsmokesalot 0.32
Bitcoin Charlie 1.0

Liquidity Pledges (see the list on the Trade Tracker):

Local Chapter - Australia
- cragv, $100
- IMZ Mark: $AU 250 (by March 31st)
Local Chapter - USA
- Bitcoin Charlie, $500
International
- Bitcoin National, 100 Uno @ $3.15 (Paypal)

'Frozen' UNO:

Guyinanutshell, 100 Uno, until May 1, 2015, @ uUB5igPeTMUXxfAqMVQ15FidQmtomemJbL (at least to practise setting up separate wallets for equity DVC)

IMZ

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Thanks for that note, B. Thankfully, I am this second getting to better know the system cragv has set up, and I can because:

it's Autumn! and my eyes are able to cope much better.

Final Note on Nxt: this is further to my post above about the present state of cryptos:

the Nxt community has not distinguished itself in its attitude to helping newcomers. They have almost delighted in the geekiness of their product.

And I suggest they have overplayed their hand. Postmodernist western life is approaching a zenith (nadir?). Everyone is madly busy. Everyone has no room for any new system that has an arrogant attitude to its own acceptance.

and PM sent.

m

Benefactor

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Quote from: BitcoinNational on February 27, 2015, 06:02:26 AM

DogeParty is an easy to use online wallet (no blockchain -ing)
https://wallet.dogeparty.io

...So is this a sidechain, then? I thought this is something like what a sidechain would look like. Damn shame everyone was so scared of it on here.

Benefactor

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Mark, how's the summer?

Umm, one little thing - you are advertising NXT each day in your daily. Grin

IMZ

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Go, Guy!!

Food for Thought: Ian and I see a sort of 'shake down' goin' on. That is, commercial adoption -- both Big Tech Startups and small-business crypto acceptance -- is booming; but the unwelcoming atmosphere of the crypto realm (with Uno and Doge as two most honourable exceptions) has served us poorly.

So now is the time to strive for what I have been nagging about: turn from the screens; contact a few people in the non-Net world; and set them up to use cryptos.

Mark

Guyinanutshell

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Quote from: IMZ on March 02, 2015, 04:08:01 AM

I have figured out (with cragv's help) how to set up other addresses in my Uno wallet. So, I can put equity-DVC Uno in that wallet when the time comes.

m

I've left my wallet stationary, when may 1 comes around ill mess with sending some UNO and see about being able to leaving the frozen UNO untouched, I'm still trolling around here everyday, just keeping an eye on the prize and holding strong!

Cheers
Guy

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