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Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative - page 115. (Read 433405 times)

legendary
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Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.

So does that mean Poloniex now accepts deposits using zerotime, or is there still a 1 confirmation hold time? I think the 1 confirmation was already pretty fast, so I do not know if this would even make much of a difference transferring to/from exchanges.

Where I could see zerotime being more useful would be in retail establishments, buying a bagel and coffee for instance, the proprietor could confirm in near real-time the transaction is valid. Of course, most places that accept Bitcoin already use Bitpay or something similar, and they transfer the already low risk to a third party, so even in this scenario I am not sure how useful this is in the real world. It sounds cool and all, but I am struggling to find the real value here.


Polinex still is waiting for 1 confirmation....maybe as people start to trust Zerotime they can remove it but exchanges won't want to rush to do that I imagine due to their focus on tight security.


I disagree about the third party instant processing of third parties like Bitpay.......I haven't used them but assuming they are almost like using some kind of PayPal for BTC I would say there is a world of difference even if the user experience feels the same. Many people might not care but the difference between centralised and decentralised is everything. Especially if the centralised option goes through the banking system.....kind of misses the point of cryptocurency IMO.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1001
Ummmm...  imagine not needing third party liability, or maybe you think redundancy is a good business model.

Decentralized systems demand decentralized solutions.

legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1011
Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.

So does that mean Poloniex now accepts deposits using zerotime, or is there still a 1 confirmation hold time? I think the 1 confirmation was already pretty fast, so I do not know if this would even make much of a difference transferring to/from exchanges.

Where I could see zerotime being more useful would be in retail establishments, buying a bagel and coffee for instance, the proprietor could confirm in near real-time the transaction is valid. Of course, most places that accept Bitcoin already use Bitpay or something similar, and they transfer the already low risk to a third party, so even in this scenario I am not sure how useful this is in the real world. It sounds cool and all, but I am struggling to find the real value here.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1000
it is possible kiwii have problem ? Can't connect since yesterday, I got Error Connecting (ETIMEDOUT)

Edit: Ok its work now
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1001
Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM
"ZeroTime is now widely deployed. It will by default replace block confirmation transactions in future releases.

Thank you for your support." - John-Connor

Source: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/173/zerotime/9

According to github, version 0.3.3 is being prepared, I hope that it will hold this change Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM
So does anyone know where I can get my hands on some FPGA's?  Are there other mfr's that will work?  Please advise.

I'll ask around if there are any plans on publicly release software for other FPGAs and report back if I got an answer Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM

Can you submit coins here with different codebases? Seems this will link it to BTC... or?

They won't add it until the proper rights are attributed to the proper authors. Meaning bitcoin code needs to be attributed in the "made from scratch" vanilla code.

"Vanillacoin was engineered from the ground up and is designed to be innovative and forward-thinking." Taken from the Vanillacoin website and that is 100% accurate. Also the routing and how the network behaves is totally different.

Well if the website is 100% accurate then mapofcoins will start a new genesis with VNL being a standalone (alongside BTC, BCN, NXT & XRP).

It will not link to BTC.

Thank you for the info ^^
legendary
Activity: 1133
Merit: 1050

Can you submit coins here with different codebases? Seems this will link it to BTC... or?

They won't add it until the proper rights are attributed to the proper authors. Meaning bitcoin code needs to be attributed in the "made from scratch" vanilla code.

"Vanillacoin was engineered from the ground up and is designed to be innovative and forward-thinking." Taken from the Vanillacoin website and that is 100% accurate. Also the routing and how the network behaves is totally different.

Well if the website is 100% accurate then mapofcoins will start a new genesis with VNL being a standalone (alongside BTC, BCN, NXT & XRP).

It will not link to BTC.
legendary
Activity: 1504
Merit: 1002
So does anyone know where I can get my hands on some FPGA's?  Are there other mfr's that will work?  Please advise.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM

Can you submit coins here with different codebases? Seems this will link it to BTC... or?

They won't add it until the proper rights are attributed to the proper authors. Meaning bitcoin code needs to be attributed in the "made from scratch" vanilla code.

"Vanillacoin was engineered from the ground up and is designed to be innovative and forward-thinking." Taken from the Vanillacoin website and that is 100% accurate. Also the routing and how the network behaves is totally different.
legendary
Activity: 1133
Merit: 1050

Can you submit coins here with different codebases? Seems this will link it to BTC... or?

They won't add it until the proper rights are attributed to the proper authors. Meaning bitcoin code needs to be attributed in the "made from scratch" vanilla code.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM

Can you submit coins here with different codebases? Seems this will link it to BTC... or?
full member
Activity: 147
Merit: 100
Not sure if this has been shared here yet:

http://vanillacoin.net/network.php



Version : 0.3.3.
A new wallet or an error ?
legendary
Activity: 1894
Merit: 1001
******

a little over 2 days to go in the voting, VNL is in second place behind XMR  Huh

Monero(XMR)   211/1      

                                               (free/paid)  (you can buy votes with DOT if you're so inclined)
  
VanillaCoin(VNL)   116/4   


                                                                                           <----=clicky  Wink
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
legendary
Activity: 1045
Merit: 1000
yes, 100% agree

Of course John Connor is mining -

https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/178/fpga-mining/32

And the fact that he has made all his code available for anyone who wants to mine shows what kind of guy he is - it would be easy for him to keep the FPGA stuff secret for himself but he is not doing that.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
Of course John Connor is mining -

https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/178/fpga-mining/32

And the fact that he has made all his code available for anyone who wants to mine shows what kind of guy he is - it would be easy for him to keep the FPGA stuff secret for himself but he is not doing that.
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