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Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative - page 19. (Read 433438 times)

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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

not cloud. cold storage.
legendary
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL

So you are recommending a portfolio that is not diversified?
hero member
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waiting for a high on clams, all my profit coming towards vnl 3btc profit yet hope i see 0.01 on clams and 0.01btc on vnl too
legendary
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL
full member
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.

yeah! a time ago I told to John that a mixer did not seems to me as something good because they are centralized and he said in vanilla the mixer will be DECENTRALIZED  Grin
legendary
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180 BPM
No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.
Thanks for your reply, would love to hear some additional info from John about potential bloating!

Reposted the question here: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/277/chainblender/2

John is more likely to answer technical questions on the official forums.
legendary
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Hyperspace snail
No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.
Thanks for your reply, would love to hear some additional info from John about potential bloating!
legendary
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Merit: 1001
180 BPM
No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.
legendary
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180 BPM
Can you push the coin to here, please?
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

This won't happen anymore and they are irrelevant as an exchange.

Why?

This was the topic where they asked for some help regarding the code: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/228/how-to-set-rpc-user-pass-and-ssl-settings/9

Since then they deleted their account from talk.vanillacoin.net together with their messages. To sum it up, cryptopia wanted wallet/RPC changes that John said would cause security holes and that the way the wallet handles RPC is the most secure (Poloniex and Bittrex had no problem making it work) and Cryptopia went into an argument regarding it which didn't get positive responses from the community. Also they asked for these after accepting paid votes/donations meaning they did no research prior.
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How many VNL coins flood the market through mining and staking every day?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13178962
legendary
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How many VNL coins flood the market through mining and staking every day?

19700 ish, a bit less than 20k
hero member
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Interesting calculations:

- VNL superpeer: roughly 300 VNL/month = 0.037 BTC = 15 USD. ROI: 36%
- DASH masternode: 10 DASH/month = 0.06 BTC = 25 USD. ROI: 12%

Seems like VNL superpeers are 3 times more profitable than masternodes for now. DASH ROI will only decrease over time because it depends on block reward and number of masternodes. For VNL it's not clear because the amount of PoW given to superpeers is constantly increasing.

It's always good to know more and try to calculate ROI, but this what you have done here for VNL is not acurate in so many ways.
You introduced to many parameters which can influance on final result but on the end you are comparing USD value and percentage is given for a year.

Investment
You must decide if you will calculate in USD or BTC or VNL cause all that influance on ROI and only calculation in VNL could give more or less acurrate number because...
it's not the same if someone bought BTC @250$ or 350$ and then bought VNL for ~9k or ~12k or ~25k
So based on timing and USD/BTC/VNL coresponding prices this can change every calculation.
All mentioned should apply to DASH as well.

Rewards per day / per month
... in average that should be blocks generated per day / nuber of super peers - currently ~1,6
So currently 1.6 x 8.74 x 30 that should give ~400VNL per super peer per month with notice that
 - in last month nuber of superpeers increased from ~130 to ~240 and
 - fact that rewarding system is based on luck
... so it can happen that some super peer gets 2-3-4 rewards one day and next day gets none

So if we would look at current numbers and we look only VNL than ROI on yearly base would be ~ 48% or 2,08 yeras to ROI initiall investment but...
... what is hard to predict is what will happen with number of super peers in future and specially in time when price of VNL will go up.
What is known is that every 50k blocks PoW reward is reducing by 1/6 and progression of super peer percentage rewards can be found here:
https://gist.github.com/john-connor/967ba7f7e9dd0ec1f7a9

So, calculating/predicting ROI for super peers is as hard as for mining except here you always have your initial investement in VNL while in mining you have pile of old hardware.



You're right, that's why I added the "for now" part. So it's accurate for the time being only and the ROI is just an extrapolated value which will most likely decrease as/if the coin gains popularity.
hero member
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Please don't advertise your coin in other ANN threads.
sr. member
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No TX Fees #JustRaiBlocks
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legendary
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Hyperspace snail
No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me
legendary
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the wallet still crashes if you double rightclick the lock

It doesn't crash for me on windows. If you use windows, the error may be on your side.
legendary
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I could make an ad with exposure to 120000 Thai people for 10k
like the one here on the bottom right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEDuPfOFkMA
send coins if interested Grin

Please open a thread over at talk.vanillacoin.net for ideas like these.

Also please first explain your idea in detail before asking for any kinds of donations for it and don't just straight out ask for coins.
legendary
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=== NODE IS OK! ==
I could make an ad with exposure to 120000 Thai people for 10k
like the one here on the bottom right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEDuPfOFkMA
send coins if interested Grin
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