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legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
January 01, 2015, 06:27:47 PM
#63
If you know me, you know where I stand.  I despise scams and bad math.  That leaves only one.

How is BBR with full network level anonymity via Telepathy scam or bad math?

Looks to me like it's a similar way of achieving what using XMR with I2P integration is aiming for.

You are making a fair point, as I think BBR and XMR are similarly robust cryptographically.  If BBR was on the list, I should have noticed this and modulated my comment accordingly.
However, I haven't seen enough of Telepathy to form an opinion about it, so I am stuck with very unfavorable priors.  My priors on I2P are much more favorable.
Any preference I have for XMR over BBR (over TCP directly) is on grounds unrelated to privacy.


legendary
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amarha
January 01, 2015, 08:25:25 AM
#62
If you know me, you know where I stand.  I despise scams and bad math.  That leaves only one.

How is BBR with full network level anonymity via Telepathy scam or bad math?

Looks to me like it's a similar way of achieving what using XMR with I2P integration is aiming for.

what is the purpose of bitcoindark? ive asked the question on the bitcointalk thread and people said bitcoindark was better technology than cryptonote

if bitcoindark is superior to cn, why use cn ?
if its not, why promote bitcoindark ?

Bitcoindark's Telepathy is a network technology over UDP that enables people to send encrypted messages with no identifiable data(no IP, no user info ect). And through that you can use Teleport to wrap up a transaction and there's other features there to help protect against common attacks like sybil, mantissa ect. What it doesn't do yet as far as I know is provide any way to guarantee you're inputs are clean. That's where BBR comes in. BBR doesn't have any sort of protection on a network level as far as I know, but it goes have unlinkable transactions and ring signatures. So from what I can tell so far the strongest anonymity is going to be combining the two technologies via SuperNET.

Monero developers obviously see the value in providing that network level anonymity as they are working on integrating I2P which may achive a similar result. I'm not too familiar with I2P but I'll be interested in comparing how the two methods work out.

For most people they'll probably be able to achieve a level of anonymity they're comfortable with by just using XMR, BBR, or BTCD via Teleport alone. But some people will want to go the distance and try to fully protect their privacy.

Telepathy/Teleport is completely different than CN tech so I don't think you can say one or the other is better or worse as they tackle different aspects of anonymity. Jl777 knew that if he could combine both that the result would be very strong, so that's how the original idea of SuperNET was born. That and seeing the advantages of financial and technical collaboration anyway.

There's a Telepathy/Teleport whitepaper(not the 'darkpaper', which was just a now outdated informal attempt to explain) that I've read that's all but finished expect for the final touches from a math person that was paid to add some quantitative analysis to it. Actually it might have already been released, I have no idea. I haven't seen the final version with the math though, only the qualitative description.
hero member
Activity: 723
Merit: 503
January 01, 2015, 05:50:02 AM
#61
If you know me, you know where I stand.  I despise scams and bad math.  That leaves only one.

How is BBR with full network level anonymity via Telepathy scam or bad math?

Looks to me like it's a similar way of achieving what using XMR with I2P integration is aiming for.

what is the purpose of bitcoindark? ive asked the question on the bitcointalk thread and people said bitcoindark was better technology than cryptonote

if bitcoindark is superior to cn, why use cn ?
if its not, why promote bitcoindark ?
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1002
amarha
December 31, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
#60
If you know me, you know where I stand.  I despise scams and bad math.  That leaves only one.

How is BBR with full network level anonymity via Telepathy scam or bad math?

Looks to me like it's a similar way of achieving what using XMR with I2P integration is aiming for.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Knowledge could but approximate existence.
December 31, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
#59
None is truly untraceable. It makes them harder to trace, thats all.
Given sufficient resources, any one can be traced.

True, and I agree with this but the anonymity of bitcoin depends on how you use it, and you can be very secure if you're careful, but not if you're not  Cheesy.

Writcoin™ was designed by an anarchist communist: its transactions are not required to reference other transactions.


Could you share more information, i'll add it to poll. How should it looks?

“Bitcoin Core for Writcoin™ (Great Empire Coin [GEC]) proxying through Tor® on big-endian hardware only ever spending new money into existence”

It’s thread has it’s information.
sr. member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 263
Sovryn - 300-500% APY on USDT Deposit
December 31, 2014, 04:35:01 AM
#58
None is truly untraceable. It makes them harder to trace, thats all.
Given sufficient resources, any one can be traced.

True, and I agree with this but the anonymity of bitcoin depends on how you use it, and you can be very secure if you're careful, but not if you're not  Cheesy.

Writcoin™ was designed by an anarchist communist: its transactions are not required to reference other transactions.


Could you share more information, i'll add it to poll. How should it looks?
member
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Merit: 10
December 31, 2014, 04:07:19 AM
#57
Monero
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Knowledge could but approximate existence.
December 30, 2014, 09:21:18 PM
#56
Writcoin™ was designed by an anarchist communist: its transactions are not required to reference other transactions.

...on earth.

Writcoin™ creates a heterarchical monetary authority by permitting its end users to “spend” money into existence—approximating anarchist communism.
hero member
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Merit: 502
December 30, 2014, 08:59:25 PM
#55
Writcoin™ was designed by an anarchist communist: its transactions are not required to reference other transactions.

...on earth.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Knowledge could but approximate existence.
December 30, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
#54
None is truly untraceable. It makes them harder to trace, thats all.
Given sufficient resources, any one can be traced.

True, and I agree with this but the anonymity of bitcoin depends on how you use it, and you can be very secure if you're careful, but not if you're not  Cheesy.

Writcoin™ was designed by an anarchist communist: its transactions are not required to reference other transactions.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
December 30, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
#53
If you know me, you know where I stand.  I despise scams and bad math.  That leaves only one.
full member
Activity: 199
Merit: 100
December 30, 2014, 03:24:51 AM
#52
voted for Monero.  Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
December 29, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
#51
passive privacy system > any mixing system.

Why?

Because an active privacy system is subject to regulation.

And because mixing systems are just electronic shell games.

Problem is, computers are very good at untangling shell games using Sudoku type solutions, Sybil attacks, etc.


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Invest them in a MadoffNode and enjoy the High Yields
member
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Merit: 10
December 29, 2014, 05:36:01 PM
#50
On 29th Dec top 3 untraceable coins are:
(XMR) Monero = 94 (42.2%)
(DRK) Darkcoin, with Darksend option = 65 (29.1%)
(SDC) ShadowCash =     31 (13.9%)
sr. member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 263
Sovryn - 300-500% APY on USDT Deposit
December 29, 2014, 06:40:47 AM
#49
Hello, Can you please add XDN DarkNote to poll? Thank you.

Welcome!

Added (XDN) DarkNote,
hero member
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Merit: 1000
December 29, 2014, 02:38:44 AM
#48
Hello, Can you please add XDN DarkNote to poll? Thank you.
hero member
Activity: 833
Merit: 1001
December 28, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
#47
monero of course, i find others premined shady stuff decorated by nice confetti... Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 502
December 28, 2014, 09:35:31 PM
#46
Monero.

Decentralized.

Cryptographically secure.
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
December 28, 2014, 07:51:28 AM
#45
Darkcoin
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1005
DASH is the future of crypto payments!
December 28, 2014, 04:38:38 AM
#44
Darkcoin is my black horse, with so much dedicated dev and so much development with stable and increasing dev team darkcoin is my choice.
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