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legendary
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April 11, 2016, 02:22:11 PM

Oh, wait. And he's Not SAYING THE same thing about radical Muslim sympathizer, Obama?

Give me a break.

Hang on a minute there Spendulus. Obama has killed hundreds of Muslims with drone attacks alone, now if that's showing sympathy I would not like to piss him off.
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April 11, 2016, 01:35:42 PM
This probably means War.

On April 19th the AIIP, the new Chinese SWIFT bank goes online and this completely bypasses the dollar for all international trade.
legendary
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April 11, 2016, 01:27:07 PM
You agree now and yet you had a nice looking   Smiley   when you made that post. You agreed with her then and still. You cannot be for the machine and against it. You can't serve two masters.

You may not know if TRUMP will be a great president, you may hate him for what he represents to you, but you already know who were bad for the US and the world at large already.

A very hypocritical position.




It was just a smiley face, nothing more nothing less Smiley

The problem I find on this board is that some people (not necessarily you) assume that Trump criticism = Hillary supporter. I'm not a big fan of hers tbh, I support some of Obama's policies (healthcare etc) but can still appreciate he's another war criminal like Bush and Clinton.

Always seen the Democrats as the lesser evil which is probably why I tend to side with them on some issues.

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April 11, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
Is this still America? That´s a very good question indeed. The guy flies a flag saying Make America Great Again and he faces jail for it. Bizarro times.
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April 11, 2016, 12:18:39 PM
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April 11, 2016, 11:43:28 AM
A New Jersey man faces fines or jail time for flying Donald Trump campaign flags in front of his home.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/04/11/new-jersey-homeowner-may-face-jail-for-flying-trump-flag/

Joe Hornick has been flying the flags since February and faces up to a $2,000 fine or 90 days in jail for allegedly violating a local ordinance that restricts posting political lawn signs more than 30 days before an election. The local NBC affiliate reports:

Joe Hornick has been flying Trump’s “Make America Great Again” flag outside his West Long Branch home on a busy corner near the Monmouth University campus for months.

But he got a ticket recently citing him for illegally posting political signage more than 30 days before an election. The New Jersey presidential primary isn’t until June 7.

“I’m not a football fan, I’m not a sports fan, but I’m surely a Donald Trump fan,” he told NBC 4 New York.

Hornick actually flies two Trump flags day and night, and lights them up when it gets dark. They’ve been ripped down five times so far.

“Let them come, let them rip those flags down because I have a warehouse on alert, and I’ll put up a flag every time they tear one down,” he said.

Hornick is ready to face a judge. If he loses the flag fight in court. Hornick is prepared to serve the sentence.


NJ.com reports that Hornick was shocked to learn he was issued a ticket and accused of violating a borough ordinance on the public display of political signs. After his flags were vandalized or ripped down by people repeatedly, he thought the police would be focused instead on the vandals. He was wrong:

“Here I am looking for the cops to capture these people and instead, here they come and give me a ticket for my freedom of expression,” Hornick said on Thursday.

A former Long Branch firefighter, Hornick contends the ordinance doesn’t apply to him because he’s not displaying a lawn sign – he’s flying a flag, just like any sports fan would fly a flag expressing their enthusiasm for their favorite team.

But West Long Branch doesn’t see it that way. The borough attorney told police a flag is indeed considered a lawn sign under the ordinance and under previous court rulings, according to the police report Hornick provided to NJ Advance Media.

The report said borough resident Brian Hegarty – a former Democratic councilman and a distant neighbor of Hornick’s – called police on March 25 to question why his complaints to the municipal code enforcement officer about the flags resulted on no violations for Hornick.

Hornick, a Republican in a GOP-controlled town, said a police official called him that day to tell him about the potential violation and suggested that Hornick could avoid a summons by taking down his flags.

After consulting with his attorney, Hornick called police headquarters later that day and said the flags would remain in place.

“I’m not taking the flag down, and if I do 90 days in jail, I’ll do 90 days in jail,” Hornick told reporters. He vows he will continue to exercise his freedom of speech rights.

 
legendary
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April 11, 2016, 11:34:29 AM
The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

Agreed, same shit different face.


Meanwhile:

Former CIA director: Military may refuse to follow Trump’s orders if he becomes president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/28/former-cia-director-military-may-refuse-to-follow-trumps-orders-if-he-becomes-president/

Quote
“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,”

Quote
"If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act"

Ouch

You agree now and yet you had a nice looking   Smiley   when you made that post. You agreed with her then and still. You cannot be for the machine and against it. You can't serve two masters.

You may not know if TRUMP will be a great president, you may hate him for what he represents to you, but you already know who were bad for the US and the world at large already.

A very hypocritical position.


Obama's drone program nets one 'terrorist' for every 9 innocent civilians dead (as in door-nail dead vs. roughed up a little.)  We 'know' this from various drone pilots who have quit in disgust and turned into whistle-blowers.  Others are offered a record setting $125,000 as a retention bonus to keep on killing innocent people which provides a pretty good indication of how morally bankrupt the program is.

Ya, 'hypocritical' is an understatement.  Ignorance and lack of intellectual curiosity is another factor.  These are several of the reasons is why I've turned my back on the 'progressives.'

I don't agree in principle or in practice with 'going after family members' and I wish Trump would be more clear about exactly what he means.  If he means investigating them as more likely to have involvement with 'crimes' and taking appropriate actions, I'm somewhat OK with that.  Otherwise, 'what goes around comes around' and the policy could turn as ugly as it seems on it's face.  My main problem is that I am increasingly convinced that the GWOT is about as scamy as the global warming fraud so the policy has no meaning.  Generally speaking, I feel that it is worth the cost for the country to try to retain the moral high-ground even when it means adding detracting somewhat to 'security' since it is a trade-off which will pay significant long-term dividends.  IMO.

edit: slight to correct an inversion

 Sad

Yet sending covert ops to kidnap a killer in the middle of his home and ship him back to gitmo for him to get waterboarded is worse.
The worse part is not killing indiscriminately 9 people for each 1 target, the thing that's disturbing is the total lack of coverage of this scandal. Not one day was going by without seeing some fools dressed in orange jump suit to fight W and gitmo. Where are they now? 

Dying in silence to protect 0bama. It is a big stupid TV show.

If you have the link of the bonus that would be cool to keep a record here.

legendary
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April 11, 2016, 10:50:52 AM
The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

Agreed, same shit different face.


Meanwhile:

Former CIA director: Military may refuse to follow Trump’s orders if he becomes president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/28/former-cia-director-military-may-refuse-to-follow-trumps-orders-if-he-becomes-president/

Quote
“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,”

Quote
"If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act"

Ouch

You agree now and yet you had a nice looking   Smiley   when you made that post. You agreed with her then and still. You cannot be for the machine and against it. You can't serve two masters.

You may not know if TRUMP will be a great president, you may hate him for what he represents to you, but you already know who were bad for the US and the world at large already.

A very hypocritical position.


Obama's drone program nets one 'terrorist' for every 9 innocent civilians dead (as in door-nail dead vs. roughed up a little.)  We 'know' this from various drone pilots who have quit in disgust and turned into whistle-blowers.  Others are offered a record setting $125,000 as a retention bonus to keep on killing innocent people which provides a pretty good indication of how morally bankrupt the program is.

Ya, 'hypocritical' is an understatement.  Ignorance and lack of intellectual curiosity is another factor.  These are several of the reasons is why I've turned my back on the 'progressives.'

I don't agree in principle or in practice with 'going after family members' and I wish Trump would be more clear about exactly what he means.  If he means investigating them as more likely to have involvement with 'crimes' and taking appropriate actions, I'm somewhat OK with that.  Otherwise, 'what goes around comes around' and the policy could turn as ugly as it seems on it's face.  My main problem is that I am increasingly convinced that the GWOT is about as scamy as the global warming fraud so the policy has no meaning.  Generally speaking, I feel that it is worth the cost for the country to try to retain the moral high-ground even when it means adding detracting somewhat to 'security' since it is a trade-off which will pay significant long-term dividends.  IMO.

edit: slight to correct an inversion
legendary
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April 11, 2016, 10:07:16 AM
The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

Agreed, same shit different face.


Meanwhile:

Former CIA director: Military may refuse to follow Trump’s orders if he becomes president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/28/former-cia-director-military-may-refuse-to-follow-trumps-orders-if-he-becomes-president/

Quote
“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,”

Quote
"If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act"

Ouch


You agree now and yet you had a nice looking   Smiley   when you made that post. You agreed with her then and still. You cannot be for the machine and against it. You can't serve two masters.

You may not know if TRUMP will be a great president, you may hate him for what he represents to you, but you already know who were bad for the US and the world at large already.

A very hypocritical position.


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April 11, 2016, 08:57:07 AM
Bill Clinton suffers from Satyriasis, it can be treated but must first be admitted to a bit like alcoholism.
legendary
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April 11, 2016, 07:49:14 AM
The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

Agreed, same shit different face.


Meanwhile:

Former CIA director: Military may refuse to follow Trump’s orders if he becomes president

Ouch

Oh, wait. And he's Not SAYING THE same thing about radical Muslim sympathizer, Obama?

Give me a break.
legendary
Activity: 2002
Merit: 1016
April 11, 2016, 06:48:36 AM
The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

Agreed, same shit different face.


Meanwhile:

Former CIA director: Military may refuse to follow Trump’s orders if he becomes president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/28/former-cia-director-military-may-refuse-to-follow-trumps-orders-if-he-becomes-president/

Quote
“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,”

Quote
"If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act"

Ouch
legendary
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April 11, 2016, 06:24:14 AM
Why wouldn't she? The Bushs and Clintons are both part of the same criminal cartel.

More proof radical Islam is not a problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bULCm-yCOOQ
legendary
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April 11, 2016, 03:51:50 AM
Laura Bush hints she'd rather see Hillary as president than Donald Trump
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/08/laura-bush-hints-shed-rather-see-hillary-as-president-than-repub/

Smiley
legendary
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April 11, 2016, 12:58:59 AM
More proof radical Islam is not a problem in America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1YgVKoqLw
legendary
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April 10, 2016, 10:57:55 PM
I am all for truth. I just want it said in a way where it's actually respectable. Donald honestly does not understand what it takes to be a likeable presidential candidate. Honestly. He says the most horrendous things. I would never support a man who thinks 1 million dollars isn't much money, and does not even respect women enough where he has openly said he sees women to be objects.

What is more important, that he be "likeable", or that he protects the country and its people? He already has the respect of many world leaders, including Putin. He doesn't think 1 million dollars is a lot because HE IS A FUCKIN BILLIONAIRE. That is chump change for him. Additionally how long can anyone really live on 1 million dollars in the US with the current cost of living and devalued buying power of the dollar? Two years? Five years? Ten? Also after taxes you will be left with a lot less anyway. Unless you live like a miser that money will be gone pretty fast. Just look at any lottery winner. 70% of lottery winners are bankrupt within 3-5 years, and they win way more than a million dollars.
legendary
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April 10, 2016, 10:45:16 PM







Wow.  He's right.

the 2 Party system is WAY corrupt.

No room for "Outsiders..."  ("right" or "left!")

Face it.  Bernie is not a Democrat.  He's a Socialist.

Face it.  Trump is not a Republican.  He's a Fascist.
What Trump actually is happens to be a rich man who believes he magically has diplomatic immunity because he says things that normal politicians wouldn't say. In other words, he doesn't have that proper politician filter. In fact, that reason alone is why he probably shouldn't be president. People want a president who's gonna be respectful of people's thoughts. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them.

So politicians can be trusted because they use "filters", but not TRUMP because he is not lying to you? Liars should be trusted, not truth tellers?

... 1984...



OK, sure.

First, there is a difference between telling someone's personal truth vs. "The Truth," which is pretty darn hard to ascertain.

I equate "Fascism" with criminalizing & deporting entire populations based on nationality, (Mexico) or religion, (Muslim.)
I am all for truth. I just want it said in a way where it's actually respectable. Donald honestly does not understand what it takes to be a likeable presidential candidate. Honestly. He says the most horrendous things. I would never support a man who thinks 1 million dollars isn't much money, and does not even respect women enough where he has openly said he sees women to be objects.


Nothing you write is based on fact, reality but on your superficial feelings. You do not want politicians to hurt your feelings so you rather respect politicians that lie than a man that looks you in the eyes and tells you the truth.

That's the life you have chosen for yourself, your friends and your family. You should be grateful your ancestors were not like that. That is why you are alive today.


legendary
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April 10, 2016, 10:42:34 PM
If you can't show me organized government issued statistics then what are we gonna do
I don't know what WE are going to do, but I know what I am going to do. Keep bringing attention to this problem even though people such as yourself feel the need to rearrange my statements to cast me as a bigot or a racist.
legendary
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April 10, 2016, 10:37:04 PM







Wow.  He's right.

the 2 Party system is WAY corrupt.

No room for "Outsiders..."  ("right" or "left!")

Face it.  Bernie is not a Democrat.  He's a Socialist.

Face it.  Trump is not a Republican.  He's a Fascist.
What Trump actually is happens to be a rich man who believes he magically has diplomatic immunity because he says things that normal politicians wouldn't say. In other words, he doesn't have that proper politician filter. In fact, that reason alone is why he probably shouldn't be president. People want a president who's gonna be respectful of people's thoughts. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them.

So politicians can be trusted because they use "filters", but not TRUMP because he is not lying to you? Liars should be trusted, not truth tellers?

... 1984...



OK, sure.

First, there is a difference between telling someone's personal truth vs. "The Truth," which is pretty darn hard to ascertain.

I equate "Fascism" with criminalizing & deporting entire populations based on nationality, (Mexico) or religion, (Muslim.)


The belief that all mexicans in the US are illegals is a sad racist concept to tell you The Truth... Something TRUMP never said or believed.

At least you believe islam is a religion and not a race. I'll give you that.

 Smiley

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April 10, 2016, 10:35:57 PM







Wow.  He's right.

the 2 Party system is WAY corrupt.

No room for "Outsiders..."  ("right" or "left!")

Face it.  Bernie is not a Democrat.  He's a Socialist.

Face it.  Trump is not a Republican.  He's a Fascist.
What Trump actually is happens to be a rich man who believes he magically has diplomatic immunity because he says things that normal politicians wouldn't say. In other words, he doesn't have that proper politician filter. In fact, that reason alone is why he probably shouldn't be president. People want a president who's gonna be respectful of people's thoughts. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them.

So politicians can be trusted because they use "filters", but not TRUMP because he is not lying to you? Liars should be trusted, not truth tellers?

... 1984...



OK, sure.

First, there is a difference between telling someone's personal truth vs. "The Truth," which is pretty darn hard to ascertain.

I equate "Fascism" with criminalizing & deporting entire populations based on nationality, (Mexico) or religion, (Muslim.)
I am all for truth. I just want it said in a way where it's actually respectable. Donald honestly does not understand what it takes to be a likeable presidential candidate. Honestly. He says the most horrendous things. I would never support a man who thinks 1 million dollars isn't much money, and does not even respect women enough where he has openly said he sees women to be objects.
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