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March 18, 2016, 12:07:47 AM



Poll: Donald Trump Hits 65 Percent in New York, More than 50 Percent Ahead of Ted Cruz











A new poll out on Thursday obliterates the latest mainstream media narrative confronting billionaire Donald Trump: That he can’t get majorities, but can only get pluralities, in election results.

The poll of New York state, conducted by Boston’s Emerson College, has Trump dominating his only two remaining competitors in the Empire State with 65 percent of Republicans there backing him. Only 12 percent back Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Trump’s closest competitor, and just one percent support Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

The poll was conducted over three days, March 14 to March 16, during two days of which Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) was still in the race. Rubio dropped out on the evening of March 15 after an abysmal performance in his home state of Florida, where Trump walloped him by more than double digits. In the portion of the poll conducted before Rubio suspended his campaign, the pro-amnesty Floridian got just four percent in New York. Nineteen percent chose someone else or were undecided.

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In a video accompanying the polling release, Emerson College Polling Society adviser Spencer Kimball called Trump’s towering over Cruz and Kasich a “commanding lead.”


In a direct matchup between just Cruz versus Trump, Trump still wins New York 69 percent to 25 percent—something that will probably make Cruz backers a bit uneasy, as they’ve been hoping that a head-to-head with Trump would be more beneficial to the Texas senator.

Trump’s favorables are also higher than Cruz’s or Kasich’s ratings. “Trump has the highest favorable ratings with GOP voters, 71%/23%, followed by Cruz at 52%/44% and Kasich at 54%/34%,” the polling release states. “Consistent with other primaries, Trump supporters are the most loyal, with 89% of those who see him favorably planning to cast their ballot for him. In contrast, only 21% of Republicans who have a favorable opinion of Cruz say they will vote for him.”

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in the words of Emerson’s release, is also “trouncing” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) of Vermont in the Democratic primary. Clinton takes 71 percent compared to Sanders’ 23 percent, a 48-point lead for the former U.S. Senator from New York—who was elected after her time as First Lady to President Bill Clinton.



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/17/poll-donald-trump-hits-65-percent-in-new-york-more-than-50-percent-ahead-of-ted-cruz/



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March 17, 2016, 10:05:19 PM
In the news

Writer of Bart to the Future episode, aired almost exactly 16 years ago, says idea was consistent with vision of US ...
The Guardian‎ - 5 hours ago

Homer is dragged away by security guards from a Trump rally in a separate animation ...

Conservatives gather to plot against Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com
CNN International‎ - 7 hours ago

Trump presidency rated among top 10 global risks: EIU - BBC News
BBC News‎ - 10 hours ago
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March 17, 2016, 07:04:36 PM

Once Trump has this Republican primary locked in you'll see his true liberal self come out.

He'll talk about how he voted for Obama, how he supported Clinton, how he wants universal health care. He'll be the shining star that the Democrats have been looking for.

The establishment orthodoxy on all fronts (center, left, and right) have painted themselves into a corner.  Most of the things that 'their' people 'know' about Trump (violent racist bigot, hates free speech, wants to fuck his own daughter, etc) have been fabricated and implanted with no real basis in reality.  So far it works because the 'high info' people achieve their understanding by being programmed rather than looking for themselves.

The trouble with fabricated 'knowledge' which happens to be invalid is that it is difficult to sustain over long time periods.  Especially when there is pressure from a challenger which cannot be suppressed.  It's why the most dishonest attack ads occur very near voting night.  I predict that no matter how Trump plays things (or is) policy wise, those who hate him for reasons which are fabricated will progressively turn their hate and dis-trust toward their media programmers and the candidate who is being animated by said media.

Again, my prediction is that at the end of the day this person with the Dem stamp will be Joe Biden and not Hillary Clinton if they have to go up against Trump.  Not very clear who, or even what, it will be on the third-party-split-the-vote-and-install-an-establishment-puppet side.  If it is Jeb Bush we'll have a 'crime family vs. crime family' choice again.  A follow up to the 'skull-n-bones vs. skull-n-bones' choice we had in Bush vs. Kerry.


This is pretty insightful.

Can a 3rd party candidate start up at this late point in the game?  So many states have rules about things like that.

It is totally amazing that a rigged system pushed Jeb Bush vs. (the strawman) Marco Rubio AND Hit Clinton vs (the strawman) Saunders and the people totally ignored the dynamic.

On the R side, only the rebels got the votes, and on the D side, the support for the strawman was certainly unexpected.  I hope the R crowd unifies behind Bad Hair Dude and buckles down to fight the incompetent choice of the democrats.   It is quite interesting that although the invective against Trump is rising, the bad points of Hillary are simply not even contested.  Of course their scheme is to pull in prettyboy Castro for VP to divert attention away from Hillary's senility or whatever her mental problems are. 

Of course, "believers" in Sanders are naive fools.  They have fallen for one of the oldest pitches.  "I'm a nice guy, and I'll give you free stuff."

It's worth noting in conclusion that a fair number of Democratic talking points are "let's ignore some of those laws we don't like because well, we don't like them."  To inculcate an attitude like that it helps if the primary candidate herself is an acknowledged corrupt liar.   The voter's opinions and expectations go down, he thinks they are all corrupt and liars, so why should he not vote for the liar who promises free stuff?  And the game of socialism is of course to create and give out free stuff, but only to the chosen and privileged few, not the masses.  The masses are to be impoverished, because beggars are easier and cheaper to please.

And the saudis would like to buy cheap votes, wouldn't they? 



Everybody contributing to the bill, harpy and cheesecake clinton foundation is investing in cheap votes...


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March 17, 2016, 06:32:40 PM

Once Trump has this Republican primary locked in you'll see his true liberal self come out.

He'll talk about how he voted for Obama, how he supported Clinton, how he wants universal health care. He'll be the shining star that the Democrats have been looking for.

The establishment orthodoxy on all fronts (center, left, and right) have painted themselves into a corner.  Most of the things that 'their' people 'know' about Trump (violent racist bigot, hates free speech, wants to fuck his own daughter, etc) have been fabricated and implanted with no real basis in reality.  So far it works because the 'high info' people achieve their understanding by being programmed rather than looking for themselves.

The trouble with fabricated 'knowledge' which happens to be invalid is that it is difficult to sustain over long time periods.  Especially when there is pressure from a challenger which cannot be suppressed.  It's why the most dishonest attack ads occur very near voting night.  I predict that no matter how Trump plays things (or is) policy wise, those who hate him for reasons which are fabricated will progressively turn their hate and dis-trust toward their media programmers and the candidate who is being animated by said media.

Again, my prediction is that at the end of the day this person with the Dem stamp will be Joe Biden and not Hillary Clinton if they have to go up against Trump.  Not very clear who, or even what, it will be on the third-party-split-the-vote-and-install-an-establishment-puppet side.  If it is Jeb Bush we'll have a 'crime family vs. crime family' choice again.  A follow up to the 'skull-n-bones vs. skull-n-bones' choice we had in Bush vs. Kerry.


This is pretty insightful.

Can a 3rd party candidate start up at this late point in the game?  So many states have rules about things like that.

It is totally amazing that a rigged system pushed Jeb Bush vs. (the strawman) Marco Rubio AND Hit Clinton vs (the strawman) Saunders and the people totally ignored the dynamic.

On the R side, only the rebels got the votes, and on the D side, the support for the strawman was certainly unexpected.  I hope the R crowd unifies behind Bad Hair Dude and buckles down to fight the incompetent choice of the democrats.   It is quite interesting that although the invective against Trump is rising, the bad points of Hillary are simply not even contested.  Of course their scheme is to pull in prettyboy Castro for VP to divert attention away from Hillary's senility or whatever her mental problems are. 

Of course, "believers" in Sanders are naive fools.  They have fallen for one of the oldest pitches.  "I'm a nice guy, and I'll give you free stuff."

It's worth noting in conclusion that a fair number of Democratic talking points are "let's ignore some of those laws we don't like because well, we don't like them."  To inculcate an attitude like that it helps if the primary candidate herself is an acknowledged corrupt liar.   The voter's opinions and expectations go down, he thinks they are all corrupt and liars, so why should he not vote for the liar who promises free stuff?  And the game of socialism is of course to create and give out free stuff, but only to the chosen and privileged few, not the masses.  The masses are to be impoverished, because beggars are easier and cheaper to please.

And the saudis would like to buy cheap votes, wouldn't they? 
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March 17, 2016, 06:29:25 PM
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March 17, 2016, 05:54:17 PM




defeat, asking about his future and his next step. Rubio replied, tired, beaten, that he “won’t be anyone’s vice-president” and that he has no plans to seek re-election to the U.S. Senate. Rubio has, for all intents and purposes, quit politics.

“I’m looking forward to being a private citizen,” Rubio said to CNN today, looking weary from a long and contentious primary season.

Senator Marco Rubio returned to his day job today, attending Senate meetings and meeting with staffers to discuss how he’s going to try and work for the people of Florida in his remaining months in office. Heavily criticized on the campaign trail, Marco Rubio’s voting record has been less than stellar — the worst in the Senate in fact, and his performance in the Florida primary, his home state — reflects just how little the people of Florida think of Rubio.


http://www.inquisitr.com/2898550/marco-rubio-quits-politics-wont-be-vice-president-wont-seek-re-election-to-senate/


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March 17, 2016, 05:41:29 PM



Koch brothers network ready to oppose Trump


INDIAN WELLS, Calif. – Donald TrumpDonald TrumpRepublican leaders quash talk of Supreme Court vote in lame duck The Trail 2016: I’ll take my worst enemy over Trump Clinton wins Missouri MORE is so fiercely opposed by the Koch brothers network that some donors believe the powerful group will intervene to stop the billionaire if it looks like he could win the Republican presidential nomination.

"They are always very hesitant to get involved in a primary, but I think if they were going to do it, this would be the time because they just hate the guy,” said a donor who attended the Koch network’s winter retreat, held over the weekend at a luxury resort on the edge of Coachella Valley.

Both officials and donors within Charles and David Koch's powerful group hope the real estate tycoon's White House bid dies a natural death so the group can avoid spending a penny of its $889 million 2016 cycle budget against him. But the Koch network's conversations over the weekend concerning what to do about Trump were more detailed than previously revealed. 

On the eve of the Iowa causes, Koch network officials referred in a private meeting with donors  to focus group research that included a range of questions including some that identify Trump’s vulnerabilities.

And some influential figures in the group — which held its largest gathering ever, with 500 donors attending the weekend gathering — believe that action against Trump would be needed if he emerges dominant out of the Feb. 9 primary in New Hampshire, where he holds a commanding lead in polls.

During a private planning session on Sunday morning, a senior Koch official ran through every presidential candidate, analyzing each one's strengths and weaknesses, said a source who attended the session.

When the official got to Trump, the tone shifted. Trump, the official said, has been on the opposite side of nearly every issue the Koch group cares about, such as taxes, trade and corporate welfare.

“There's also a constitutional piece,” the same donor added. “The president's job isn't to go up there and be a Caesar-like figure.”

The Koch official shared for the first time focus group research showing that Trump’s popularity falls when voters are shown how working people have suffered as a result of his bankruptcies and business dealings in Atlantic City, N.J. Stories of Trump's efforts to enrich himself by hurting ordinary people proved most effective at generating negative views of Trump, donors were told.

Several older donors spoke passionately against Trump in the private session, and only one donor in the room made a half-hearted attempt to defend him.


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/267766-koch-brothers-network-ready-to-oppose-trump


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March 17, 2016, 03:58:12 PM

Democracy is a joke, says China

Might sound rich - but they have a point don't they ?
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China may be butt-hurt that they have had less success in dominating the world.  It may be true that there are cultural issues which make them 'inward looking', but it is also true that their alternative political systems have been less than stellar.  The most recent one, which is one of the most 'pure' forms of communitarianism to date, resulted in people literally cannibalizing one another in order to survive.  In such a situation they had no option but to be 'inward looking' no matter how nauseating it may be.

China is 'successful' now mainly because corporatism is playing the global labor spread game.  They are one of the globalist's slave labor pools but it still looks fantastic because of what they have to compare it to.

A word of advice to the Chinese political pundits (and others) who wish dog on Democracy:  Look up our little saying about 'glass houses'.



Well yes, it does sound rich coming from the Chinese doesn't it ?

I've just looked up the backgrounds of Chinese leaders to try to ascertain wether they were drawn from the same 0.5% of the income/wealth scale that they are in the West (or backed by such). And whilst I wasn't able to ascertain that what did come to light was that Chinese leadership are "technocrats". That is, "Central Committee members.... were already more than 80% technocrats (that is, putative or actual office holders with four-year degrees or more in the natural sciences or engineering)."

Make of that what you will.


Here - aren't you an engineer TVBCOF  Wink ?


Technocracy, meritocracy ?  You never know, you might have been sat at the top table if you'd have been Chinese, I dunno.

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March 17, 2016, 02:12:40 PM

Democracy is a joke, says China

Might sound rich - but they have a point don't they ?
...

China may be butt-hurt that they have had less success in dominating the world.  It may be true that there are cultural issues which make them 'inward looking', but it is also true that their alternative political systems have been less than stellar.  The most recent one, which is one of the most 'pure' forms of communitarianism to date, resulted in people literally cannibalizing one another in order to survive.  In such a situation they had no option but to be 'inward looking' no matter how nauseating it may be.

China is 'successful' now mainly because corporatism is playing the global labor spread game.  They are one of the globalist's slave labor pools but it still looks fantastic because of what they have to compare it to.

A word of advice to the Chinese political pundits (and others) who wish dog on Democracy:  Look up our little saying about 'glass houses'.

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March 17, 2016, 01:54:41 PM
Democracy is a joke, says China

Might sound rich - but they have a point don't they ?

The article says the Chinese are pointing to Trump's racism as their reason for questioning the US's notion of democracy (with parallels to Mussolini, Hitler etc).
But doesn't the fact that only billionaires need apply make more of a pertinent point ? Or those backed by billionaires, at least - which more or less amounts to the same thing.

Just saying  Wink

I would say 'less'.  The simple reason is that it is a lot safer and easier to just continue to be a billionaire.  The promise of being made into a billionaire as pay-back for taking the risk and pain of being a 'leader' for a while will attract from a much wider group of people.  Many of them quite awful.

If I were 'designing' things, I would try to make sure that people who choose to go into government basically take an oath of poverty and forever give up their right to privacy.  I am pretty sure that there are as many 'leaders' as we need from a pool of people who would be willing to do so, and those who would take the helm under such conditions would be much more healthy for our society.

I think you misunderstand things a bit... being a leader is not risky or painful...

There is no need of a promise to make them rich... any corrupt politician can get rich through (legal?) bribes... it happens daily... look at how much Hillary Clinton has pulled in just from 'speaking fees' alone... which goes directly into her personal bank account...

Unfortunately, there are not many honest politicians... the lure of power and influence typically draws sociopaths, not honest men (except Bernie Sanders)

Bernie Sanders said US congressmen should get paid the same as Mexico's congressmen... only $35k/year!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0XIgEK6heM
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March 17, 2016, 01:47:49 PM
Democracy is a joke, says China

Might sound rich - but they have a point don't they ?

The article says the Chinese are pointing to Trump's racism as their reason for questioning the US's notion of democracy (with parallels to Mussolini, Hitler etc).
But doesn't the fact that only billionaires need apply make more of a pertinent point ? Or those backed by billionaires, at least - which more or less amounts to the same thing.

Just saying  Wink

I would say 'less'.  The simple reason is that it is a lot safer and easier to just continue to be a billionaire.  The promise of being made into a billionaire as pay-back for taking the risk and pain of being a 'leader' for a while will attract from a much wider group of people.  Many of them quite awful.

If I were 'designing' things, I would try to make sure that people who choose to go into government basically take an oath of poverty and forever give up their right to privacy.  I am pretty sure that there are as many 'leaders' as we need from a pool of people who would be willing to do so, and those who would take the helm under such conditions would be much more healthy for our society.

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March 17, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
Democracy is a joke, says China

Might sound rich - but they have a point don't they ?

The article says the Chinese are pointing to Trump's racism as their reason for questioning the US's notion of democracy (with parallels to Mussolini, Hitler etc).
But doesn't the fact that only billionaires need apply make more of a pertinent point ? Or those backed by billionaires, at least - which more or less amounts to the same thing.

Just saying  Wink
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March 17, 2016, 11:38:38 AM

Once Trump has this Republican primary locked in you'll see his true liberal self come out.

He'll talk about how he voted for Obama, how he supported Clinton, how he wants universal health care. He'll be the shining star that the Democrats have been looking for.

The establishment orthodoxy on all fronts (center, left, and right) have painted themselves into a corner.  Most of the things that 'their' people 'know' about Trump (violent racist bigot, hates free speech, wants to fuck his own daughter, etc) have been fabricated and implanted with no real basis in reality.  So far it works because the 'high info' people achieve their understanding by being programmed rather than looking for themselves.

The trouble with fabricated 'knowledge' which happens to be invalid is that it is difficult to sustain over long time periods.  Especially when there is pressure from a challenger which cannot be suppressed.  It's why the most dishonest attack ads occur very near voting night.  I predict that no matter how Trump plays things (or is) policy wise, those who hate him for reasons which are fabricated will progressively turn their hate and dis-trust toward their media programmers and the candidate who is being animated by said media.

Again, my prediction is that at the end of the day this person with the Dem stamp will be Joe Biden and not Hillary Clinton if they have to go up against Trump.  Not very clear who, or even what, it will be on the third-party-split-the-vote-and-install-an-establishment-puppet side.  If it is Jeb Bush we'll have a 'crime family vs. crime family' choice again.  A follow up to the 'skull-n-bones vs. skull-n-bones' choice we had in Bush vs. Kerry.

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March 17, 2016, 11:23:20 AM
What’s that famous saying? “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.” It’s time for Ted Cruz to wake up and make the phone call that changes history, changes the GOP, changes the course of America.

It’s time to face reality. Donald Trump will be the 2016 GOP presidential nominee. Only Trump has a path to the nomination. Ted Cruz is delusional if he thinks he can win the nomination…or deserves to win the nomination.

He was shut out on Tuesday night. Shut out as in zero, zilch, zip, nada. It was Trump 4, Kasich 1, Cruz 0, Rubio cut from the team.

Cruz can’t be the nominee. We’re deep into the GOP presidential race on a key Super Tuesday and he can’t even win one state. The nomination winner can’t be 0 for 5 on a Super Tuesday. That’s not a man on the way to becoming leader of the free world.

Kasich can’t be the nominee. He just won his first state out of 27. He’s 1 win, 26 losses in the GOP race. And the one win was a “homer.” The sitting Governor of Ohio just won his own state. My guess is very few sitting Governors have ever lost their home state. So please don’t get any delusions of grandeur John! No GOP power broker is stupid enough to award the presidential nomination to a guy who is 1 win, 26 loses. That would be the death of the Republican Party.

That leaves one man left standing -- Donald J Trump.

foxnews.com
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trump the winner - About 102,000,000 results (0.69 seconds)

Wake up Ted, it's time to make the phone call to Trump
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