You Can't Stump the Trump Volume 11 (NO COATS EDITION)
Say this real fast 20 times in a row, "You can't trump the Trump stump."
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You Can't Stump the Trump Volume 11 (NO COATS EDITION)
Say this real fast 20 times in a row, "You can't trump the Trump stump."
You Can't Stump the Trump Volume 11 (NO COATS EDITION)
Trump Could Win It All
So if Donald Trump proved the political universe wrong and won the Republican presidential nomination, he would be creamed by Hillary Clinton, correct?
A new survey of likely voters might at least raise momentary dyspepsia for Democrats since it suggests why it wouldn't be a cakewalk.
The survey by Washington-based Mercury Analytics is a combination online questionnaire and "dial-test" of Trump's first big campaign ad among 916 self-proclaimed "likely voters" (this video shows the ad and the dial test results). It took place primarily Wednesday and Thursday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percent.
Nearly 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they'd cross sides and vote for Trump, while a small number, or 14 percent, of Republicans claim they'd vote for Clinton. When those groups were further broken down, a far higher percentage of the crossover Democrats contend they are "100 percent sure" of switching than the Republicans.
When the firmed showed respondents the Trump ad, and assessed their responses to each moment of it, it found "the primary messages of Trump's ad resonated more than Democratic elites would hope."
About 25 percent of Democrats "agree completely" that it raises some good point, with an additional 19 percent agreeing at least "somewhat."
Mercury CEO Ron Howard, a Democrat whose firm works for candidates in both parties and corporate clients, concedes, "We expected Trump's first campaign spot to strongly appeal to Republican Trump supporters, with little impact – or in fact negative impact – on Democratic or independent voters."
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-08/new-poll-shows-donald-trump-is-a-real-threat-to-hillary-clinton
The only safe way out is for the people to learn self-governance and do it. It doesn't have anything to do with who gets elected.
I agree. The US citizens had the option of freedom in 2008 and a second chance in 2012. They chose more government. I cannot rely upon US citizens to be smart or ever support freedom so it is on me to do so for my own life, without them.
Fortunately Bitcoin allows me to do so with the money part of my life, the other parts I am coordinating as well.
I just find it amazing that people support Trump. I only saw one of his TV shows so maybe he has a lot of fans (obviously since the show went on for many seasons) but I haven't heard anything from his mouth to show that he has any sort of ideology or much knowledge of our Constitution or the concept of freedom. He just seems to spew hate of everything. Which is probably what America feels right now as it crashes and burns so they feel like "he says what I feel".
Agree. Although I never watched any of his TV show...
Amazing indeed
The only safe way out is for the people to learn self-governance and do it. It doesn't have anything to do with who gets elected.
I agree. The US citizens had the option of freedom in 2008 and a second chance in 2012. They chose more government. I cannot rely upon US citizens to be smart or ever support freedom so it is on me to do so for my own life, without them.
Fortunately Bitcoin allows me to do so with the money part of my life, the other parts I am coordinating as well.
I just find it amazing that people support Trump. I only saw one of his TV shows so maybe he has a lot of fans (obviously since the show went on for many seasons) but I haven't heard anything from his mouth to show that he has any sort of ideology or much knowledge of our Constitution or the concept of freedom. He just seems to spew hate of everything. Which is probably what America feels right now as it crashes and burns so they feel like "he says what I feel".
Then vote for Dr. Paul. It is that simple.
One person's vote means nothing.
Every voice counts.
Every voice counts simply to give big government validity.
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First, let me say that I am very in favor of smaller government. But, I am in favor of appropriately sized government.
It's about the money.
If people wanted self government, we could get by with small government. The people want governing by others. They don't understand it any other way.
Ron Paul talked a lot about shutting the Federal Reserve Bank down. With relation to small government, this would mean getting rid of the debt money system. If this is in the works with the Pauls, it means serious assassination for the Pauls.
It's about the money. The debt money system WILL collapse. But, big money thinks it can find ways around this, to keep it from happening. What they might be able to do is to extend the life of the debt money system somewhat.
Without self governance among the people, a collapse of the money system will bring disaster to many. The Pauls almost guarantee a collapse of the money system in the near future. Such mignt happen anyway. But they will bring it about sooner rather than later.
Big government is the only way to keep the money system going. Why? Big government hinges on borrowing from the banks. That is what big government does very well. This is the way the money system keeps from collapsing for all of us. However, the longer we go without the collapse, the worse it will be when it gets here.
The point is, even if the Pauls don't get assassinated, they will not be able to stop big government without making disaster for most of the people in the country. Why? It's about the money. Once Congress and the people understand what the results of a money change will be, they won't let the Pauls in.
Personally, I think the Pauls are simply a big show in a different direction than Trump is a big show.
The only safe way out is for the people to learn self-governance and do it. It doesn't have anything to do with who gets elected.
Then vote for Dr. Paul. It is that simple.
One person's vote means nothing.
Every voice counts.
Then vote for Dr. Paul. It is that simple.
One person's vote means nothing.
Then vote for Dr. Paul. It is that simple.
The game theory tells me having harpy clinton as president would be a worse outcome to the future of the USA.
What does that have to do with Trump getting the Republican nomination?
Trump is friends with Hillary and voted for Obama. If you don't like them...don't vote for their pal in the primary.
He is a sleeping liberal (wants universal government health care, higher spending) playing on Republican xenophobia. It is sad that it's working.
Who is your ideal next POTUS, beside sanders?
I think a general election between Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders would be great. Let the country finally decide between freedom and socialism.
Donald Trump’s big tent
The GOP should stop fooling itself. Trump is reaching more than just undereducated, angry white men.
Republicans explain away their unwelcome poll-leader by dismissing his supporters as a loud but narrow network of angry white men and celebrity chasers.
It’s not true. A POLITICO review of private and public polling data and interviews with GOP pollsters shows a coalition that certainly begins with conservative, blue-collar men now extends to pro-choice Republicans, independents and even registered Democrats unnerved, primarily, by illegal immigration.
Indeed, the uncomfortable truth, for the pundits and fellow Republicans who turned their noses up at Trump, is that his appeal has spread over seven months so far beyond a rabble-rousing, anti-establishment rump to encompass the very elements of the American electorate the GOP has been eager to reach. And while it’s no majority, it’s a bigger group than anything the rest of the fragmented Republican field has galvanized.
“His coalition is not all angry working white males,” said Adrian Gray, a Republican pollster. “It’s all stripes. It’s a pretty big coalition. And among other demographics where he’s doing worse, he’s still leading or in the top two.”
Certainly, non-college-educated men have formed his base. Every one of 10 recent Iowa, New Hampshire, and national polls of Republicans shows Trump with more male support than female support and significantly more support from non-college graduates than those with degrees.
Trump’s robust performance with this group, however, has deflected attention from the breadth of his coalition. Though Trump has less support with women and educated men, he’s still at or near the top of the GOP field in those categories. And, exposing the depth of the GOP establishment’s misunderstanding of Trump’s support network, his coalition includes far-right conservatives as well as people who hardly register on Republican radar.
Trump’s supporters skewed significantly against the GOP grain on abortion, for instance, in an internal poll of Iowa caucus-goers conducted for a rival presidential contender last summer. Respondents who identified themselves as “pro-choice” were three times more likely than “pro-life” voters to support Trump, according to a Republican strategist with knowledge of the survey.
One large dataset shows Trump excelling above all with voters who call themselves Republicans even though they aren’t officially registered as Republicans.
Civis Analytics, a Democratic data firm founded by veterans of President Barack Obama’s campaigns, built a model based on over 11,000 phone interviews with self-identified Republicans in 2015, part of a wider polling project. The data, first reported by The New York Times, shows Trump getting the support of 29 percent of registered Republicans but 36 percent of registered independents and 43 percent of registered Democrats, who in some states can still participate in GOP primaries.
The Civis data projects Trump’s support by congressional district, showing that Trump is especially strong in the rare pockets of the country where Obama performed worse while winning the 2008 presidential election than John Kerry did while losing in 2004, according to a POLITICO analysis.
In the Civis’ model, Trump runs ahead of his 33-percent national average in 30 of the 40 districts where Kerry matched or exceeded Obama’s performance, even though Obama ran about 5 points ahead of Kerry nationally.
Those districts are largely contained in a band running through Appalachia, from Pennsylvania to Tennessee, and then across the Deep South to Arkansas and Oklahoma. Once Democratic strongholds, voters there have sloughed off the party in recent decades — a trend that accelerated rapidly under Obama. Now, Trump is giving a voice to some of their protectionist concerns about immigration and trade.
“Essentially, the old base of the Democratic Party, non-college whites in the Midwest and Appalachia, have been cut loose and are floating like an iceberg in the middle of the electorate,” said one Republican strategist supporting another presidential candidate. “And they’ve glommed onto the Republicans because it’s a two-party system. But they have no affection for the Republican Party as an institution.”
Now, they form a key piece of the Trump puzzle.
The pro-Trump crowd’s varied background is matched by equally diverse reasons for supporting him. But even though it has faded in intensity as an issue since Trump burst on the political scene this summer with an incendiary announcement speech, immigration is still driving a core base of voters into Trump’s camp.
In WBUR’s most recent poll of the New Hampshire primary, Trump’s favorability numbers jumped from 46 percent overall to 62 percent among those who said that illegal immigration posed a “major threat” to “you and people you know.” While 27 percent of all respondents said they plan to vote for Trump in New Hampshire’s February primary, his support rose to 35 percent among the GOP voters most concerned about immigration.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-supporters-big-tent-217481#.2gym7mj:wZ3k
Rasmussen Reports
Trump Change: More Voters Than Ever See Trump As Eventual GOP Nominee
Friday, January 08, 2016
Belief among Republicans that Donald Trump will be the next GOP presidential nominee now ties its highest level ever, and among all likely voters, more than ever agree.
The first Rasmussen Reports Trump Change national telephone survey of the new year finds that 74% of Likely Republican Voters think the billionaire businessman is likely to be their nominee in 2016, with 31% who say it is Very Likely. Just 23% disagree, and that includes only 11% who say it is Not At All Likely.
Among all likely voters, 61% now say Trump is likely to be the official Republican presidential candidate, with 24% who think it is Very Likely.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_change
Overflow Crowd for Donald Trump in Bernie Sanders’s Backyard
A line formed outside for Donald J. Trump’s rally in Burlington, Vt. on Thursday, as more people tried to attend than the Flynn Center for Performing Arts could hold. Ian Thomas Jansen-Lonnquist for The New York Times
BURLINGTON, Vt. — Donald J. Trump touched down in one of America’s most progressive cities Thursday night, bringing the bombastic message that has captivated Republican voters into the backyard of a Democratic opponent, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
The visit came as the billionaire real estate mogul has made a point of broadening his focus beyond the early primary states, showcasing his popularity with packed rallies from Mississippi to Massachusetts, and now Vermont — a onetime Republican bastion that is now one of the most solid liberal states in the nation.
The choice of venue seemed curious to some, but Thursday’s rally served multiple purposes for the Trump campaign: needling Mr. Sanders in his own neighborhood; garnering attention in nearby New Hampshire, which holds the nation’s first primary next month; and showing that the candidate can attract big crowds in a Democratic haven.
“They’re afraid to come up here because it has a tendency to be a little bit liberal, a little bit rough,” Mr. Trump said of his Republican rivals. “When you look at the candidates, I’m like the only one.”
A circuslike atmosphere greeted Mr. Trump as many more people tried to get into the event than the Flynn Center for Performing Arts could hold. A brass band played as demonstrators protested outside, and many waited hours to get into the rally, with organizers turning away activists who said they supported Mr. Sanders.
While much of Mr. Trump’s ire during the campaign has been directed at Hillary and Bill Clinton and Senator Ted Cruz as the voting nears, he has not hesitated to show his disdain for the policies of Mr. Sanders, whose socialist views he frequently derides. Thursday night was no different, as he accused Mr. Sanders of wanting to raise taxes sharply and called him a weakling for allowing Black Lives Matter activists to commandeer one of his rallies last year.
“Oh, I would love to run against Bernie,” Mr. Trump said to cheers. “That would be a dream come true.”
Offering a backhanded welcome ahead of his visit, Mr. Sanders said that he hoped some of Vermont’s progressive values might rub off on Mr. Trump. He also called Mr. Trump “a pathological liar.”
He added, “He just says things that have no basis in fact.”
While Mr. Sanders has said that he thinks his economic message could be appealing to Mr. Trump’s backers, Mr. Trump has also been promoting his potential to appeal to Democrats despite his criticism of the party’s leadership and policies.
In recent weeks, backers of Mr. Trump have even started a “ditch and switch” movement, urging Democrats and independents to join the Republican Party so that they can vote for Mr. Trump in primary elections.
On Thursday, many who waited to hear Mr. Trump speak said they thought he and Mr. Sanders have some things in common even though they sit on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
“I think he’s smart, and he has the best chance of winning support and maybe flipping the state,” Daniel Nadeau, 22, of St. Albans, Vt., said of Mr. Trump. “Bernie is my No. 1 choice, and Trump is No. 2. They’re not that different.”
Voters who were on the fence between the seemingly polar opposite candidates said both communicated well with working-class people and made strong cases for how they would improve the economy.
“I’m a Trump guy, but I do like Bernie,” said Peter Vincenzo, 59, who works installing hardwood floors and traveled from Ohio for the rally. “There are a lot of parallels between these two guys. There’s a populist appeal that comes with both of them.”
Mr. Trump’s visit brought a whirlwind of disruption to Burlington. To prevent supporters of Mr. Sanders from stealing the show, he released 20,000 tickets to a rally with a venue that holds just 1,400, leaving many out in the cold. Blocks of Burlington’s main corridor were shut as protesters held silent vigils and flooded the sidewalk and part of a nearby park waving anti-Trump signs.
One person who was did not make it into the event was Beth Griffin, 47, a letter carrier from Burlington, who stood with the group of demonstrators on Thursday night. She had reserved a ticket, but scrawled a peace sign and a heart on it instead of trying to get into the venue, hoping to quietly show her displeasure with Mr. Trump.
The line to get into the venue, she said, “is like nothing I’ve ever seen in Burlington.”
“Not for Phish, not on Free Cone Day, nothing,” she said, referring to the band and to the annual occasion when Ben and Jerry’s give out free ice cream.
Earlier in the day, even Ben Cohen, a co-founder of the iconic ice cream chain, got into protesting spirit as he walked down the street with a lit-up Sanders campaign sign.
“Trump is here in our backyard, and we want to make it clear that we are dyed-in-the-wool Bernie people,” Mr. Cohen said.
Despite the Trump campaign’s best efforts to filter out anyone who was not a fan of the candidate, protesters interrupted his remarks every few minutes during a meandering speech that lasted more than an hour.
Among promises to build a wall along the southern border, an explanation of how he plans to negotiate with Iran and a call to end gun-free zones in schools, Mr. Trump scolded protesters and told security to “get them out.” Supporters shook Trump signs as people were whisked away, creating a chaotic scene that belied the setting of a formal theater with gilded walls and a red curtain.
Through it all, Mr. Trump seemed amused, expressing pride in the fact that his events were not boring — as he said those of Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton were — while showing little sympathy for his critics.
“Don’t give him his coat,” Mr. Trump said as one man who spoke out against him was removed from the theater. “Take the coat. Confiscate the coat. It’s about 10 degrees below freezing outside.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/08/us/politics/overflow-crowd-for-donald-trump-in-bernie-sanderss-backyard.html
The game theory tells me having harpy clinton as president would be a worse outcome to the future of the USA.
What does that have to do with Trump getting the Republican nomination?
Trump is friends with Hillary and voted for Obama. If you don't like them...don't vote for their pal in the primary.
He is a sleeping liberal (wants universal government health care, higher spending) playing on Republican xenophobia. It is sad that it's working.
Who is your ideal next POTUS, beside sanders?
I liked the trump at the beginning because i thought that he is smart and has potential to make new investment but the last interviews i started to not like him.
Don't worry about disliking him. He is playing by his book, still a best seller. That is why he's on top.
http://www.amazon.com/Trump-The-Deal-Donald-J/dp/0345479173/ref=zg_bs_886494_1
By the way how much of his own $$$ has he spent so far in advertising?
The us election are on November 8, 2016 and he still has time to improve and correct his mistakes, if he continues i doubt he will win.
If he continues to improve you doubt he will win against harpy clinton?
Harpy clinton has the potential to go to jail for a long, long time too... She is running out of time.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13486317
The game theory tells me having harpy clinton as president would be a worse outcome to the future of the USA.
What does that have to do with Trump getting the Republican nomination?
Trump is friends with Hillary and voted for Obama. If you don't like them...don't vote for their pal in the primary.
He is a sleeping liberal (wants universal government health care, higher spending) playing on Republican xenophobia. It is sad that it's working.
I liked the trump at the beginning because i thought that he is smart and has potential to make new investment but the last interviews i started to not like him.
Don't worry about disliking him. He is playing by his book, still a best seller. That is why he's on top.
http://www.amazon.com/Trump-The-Deal-Donald-J/dp/0345479173/ref=zg_bs_886494_1
By the way how much of his own $$$ has he spent so far in advertising?
The us election are on November 8, 2016 and he still has time to improve and correct his mistakes, if he continues i doubt he will win.
If he continues to improve you doubt he will win against harpy clinton?
I liked the trump at the beginning because i thought that he is smart and has potential to make new investment but the last interviews i started to not like him.
Don't worry about disliking him. He is playing by his book, still a best seller. That is why he's on top.
http://www.amazon.com/Trump-The-Deal-Donald-J/dp/0345479173/ref=zg_bs_886494_1
By the way how much of his own $$$ has he spent so far in advertising?
The us election are on November 8, 2016 and he still has time to improve and correct his mistakes, if he continues i doubt he will win.
If he continues to improve you doubt he will win against harpy clinton?
I liked the trump at the beginning because i thought that he is smart and has potential to make new investment but the last interviews i started to not like him.
Don't worry about disliking him. He is playing by his book, still a best seller. That is why he's on top.
http://www.amazon.com/Trump-The-Deal-Donald-J/dp/0345479173/ref=zg_bs_886494_1
By the way how much of his own $$$ has he spent so far in advertising?
The us election are on November 8, 2016 and he still has time to improve and correct his mistakes, if he continues i doubt he will win.
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