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October 04, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
You can see Trump's money, unlike the banksters. If the economy is bad he loses money, unlike Wall Street which can bet against the dollar and American interests, as the whole world is playing. Trump is no fool and he has investment everywhere, but at the end of day he deals with union workers more often than traders.

Unlike maybe Bloomberg for example.



That is why Wall Street is betting for Bush or Clinton.




ah, lending at interest... anyway it's not the subject so I will keep it to the man.

All his buildings are still standing.

Now I agree that from the onset I would say that M. Bloomberg could have been a great candidate if only he wasn't so agenda driven. that's another thing I like about the "Donald", is that he seems Agendaless (CEO of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORP MUST DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND BILLS OF RIGHT). Not in the sense of hiding anything (lot of ideas flying around, wow such hairs) but because he doesn't have a fix set of values that seems contrary to the spirit of the US Constitution and BoR. I don't believe that Trump would tell me how much refill with highfructose corn sirup liquid I can put in my cup... it sound trivial, but wtf, if I want to buy a GIANT CUP of what ever that I will use like I want, I don't see how anyone that could even think of running for Potus could think about legislating that (and stopping my free will - consent - victimless).

furthermore, even with all those constant attack, with 0 sympathy, the "Donald" keeps the fighting Spirit alive (even if recently, I feel a little bit of tiredness). as such came this post.

Ghandhi and the US C and BoR, never read anything in context Sad.
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October 04, 2015, 06:37:02 PM
I never seen an interview on msm were Trump was treated humanly (I don't even say kindly).

my favorite potential Potus can be no one but him :



but as his Majesty is pursuing his own path toward happiness, I have no other choice but to think that Mr Trump would be an excellent Potus.

1) He is born and raise in America
2) He believes in THE UNITED STATES AMERICA and THE FLAG THAT IT REPRESENTS
3) I hope he would defend the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS
4) He seems to be pragmatic, which means that it's not important what he knows or doesn't, once the data will be available I am sure he will be able to take decisions.
5) if he betrays his oath there will be no riots everywhere (with lootings, rapes, inner cities burning and chaos everywhere)
6) and his hair, omg
7) when I say: Wall Street, he does understand a little more than most of the other candidate.

God bless him and his family, may they be safe.

(they are other very good constitutionalists on the republican side, but congress needs you other wise the plage of the democrap traitors will proliferate).

You can see Trump's money, unlike the banksters. If the economy is bad he loses money, unlike Wall Street which can bet against the dollar and American interests, as the whole world is playing. Trump is no fool and he has investment everywhere, but at the end of day he deals with union workers more often than traders.

Unlike maybe Bloomberg for example.



That is why Wall Street is betting for Bush or Clinton.



+1

Trump:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi




... Or they attack your ex supermodel wife just because...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5El-mpDqaM


legendary
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October 04, 2015, 06:08:33 PM
I never seen an interview on msm were Trump was treated humanly (I don't even say kindly).

my favorite potential Potus can be no one but him :



but as his Majesty is pursuing his own path toward happiness, I have no other choice but to think that Mr Trump would be an excellent Potus.

1) He is born and raise in America
2) He believes in THE UNITED STATES AMERICA and THE FLAG THAT IT REPRESENTS
3) I hope he would defend the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS
4) He seems to be pragmatic, which means that it's not important what he knows or doesn't, once the data will be available I am sure he will be able to take decisions.
5) if he betrays his oath there will be no riots everywhere (with lootings, rapes, inner cities burning and chaos everywhere)
6) and his hair, omg
7) when I say: Wall Street, he does understand a little more than most of the other candidate.

God bless him and his family, may they be safe.

(they are other very good constitutionalists on the republican side, but congress needs you other wise the plage of the democrap traitors will proliferate).

You can see Trump's money, unlike the banksters. If the economy is bad he loses money, unlike Wall Street which can bet against the dollar and American interests, as the whole world is playing. Trump is no fool and he has investment everywhere, but at the end of day he deals with union workers more often than traders.

Unlike maybe Bloomberg for example.



That is why Wall Street is betting for Bush or Clinton.



+1

Trump:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi

legendary
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October 04, 2015, 06:01:51 PM
I never seen an interview on msm were Trump was treated humanly (I don't even say kindly).

my favorite potential Potus can be no one but him :



but as his Majesty is pursuing his own path toward happiness, I have no other choice but to think that Mr Trump would be an excellent Potus.

1) He is born and raise in America
2) He believes in THE UNITED STATES AMERICA and THE FLAG THAT IT REPRESENTS
3) I hope he would defend the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS
4) He seems to be pragmatic, which means that it's not important what he knows or doesn't, once the data will be available I am sure he will be able to take decisions.
5) if he betrays his oath there will be no riots everywhere (with lootings, rapes, inner cities burning and chaos everywhere)
6) and his hair, omg
7) when I say: Wall Street, he does understand a little more than most of the other candidate.

God bless him and his family, may they be safe.

(they are other very good constitutionalists on the republican side, but congress needs you other wise the plage of the democrap traitors will proliferate).

You can see Trump's money, unlike the banksters. If the economy is bad he loses money, unlike Wall Street which can bet against the dollar and American interests, as the whole world is playing. Trump is no fool and he has investment everywhere, but at the end of day he deals with union workers more often than traders.

Unlike maybe Bloomberg for example.



That is why Wall Street is betting for Bush or Clinton.


newbie
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October 04, 2015, 05:50:53 PM
I never seen an interview on msm were Trump was treated humanly (I don't even say kindly).

my favorite potential Potus can be no one but him :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Lloyd_Blankfein_CEO_Goldman_Sachs.jpg/220px-Lloyd_Blankfein_CEO_Goldman_Sachs.jpg

but as his Majesty is pursuing his own path toward happiness, I have no other choice but to think that Mr Trump would be an excellent Potus.

1) He is born and raise in America
2) He believes in THE UNITED STATES AMERICA and THE FLAG THAT IT REPRESENTS
3) I hope he would defend the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS
4) He seems to be pragmatic, which means that it's not important what he knows or doesn't, once the data will be available I am sure he will be able to take decisions.
5) if he betrays his oath there will be no riots everywhere (with lootings, rapes, inner cities burning and chaos everywhere)
6) and his hair, omg
7) when I say: Wall Street, he does understand a little more than most of the other candidate.

God bless him and his family, may they be safe.

(they are other very good constitutionalists on the republican side, but congress needs you other wise the plage of the democrap traitors will proliferate).
legendary
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October 04, 2015, 10:25:07 AM



Republicans

Donald Trump continues to lead among Republicans, currently with 32% of Republican support (up from 30% last week).

Ben Carson remains in 2nd at 12% among Republicans. Carson has lost some ground in the latest poll.
Jeb Bush remains in 3rd with 10%.
Carly Fiorina has held her gains from after the Republican debate, currently at 8% among Republicans, but has made no more progress.


http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7011



Now would all those other wanna-be-president guys get the hell out, please?


No. Because:
Marco Rubio vs. Jeb Bush: The inevitable GOP showdown arrives
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/10/04/marco-rubio-vs-jeb-bush-the-inevitable-gop-showdown-arrives/

 Roll Eyes


legendary
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October 04, 2015, 10:17:32 AM



Republicans

Donald Trump continues to lead among Republicans, currently with 32% of Republican support (up from 30% last week).

Ben Carson remains in 2nd at 12% among Republicans. Carson has lost some ground in the latest poll.
Jeb Bush remains in 3rd with 10%.
Carly Fiorina has held her gains from after the Republican debate, currently at 8% among Republicans, but has made no more progress.


http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7011



Now would all those other wanna-be-president guys get the hell out, please?
legendary
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October 03, 2015, 10:31:25 PM



Republicans

Donald Trump continues to lead among Republicans, currently with 32% of Republican support (up from 30% last week).

Ben Carson remains in 2nd at 12% among Republicans. Carson has lost some ground in the latest poll.
Jeb Bush remains in 3rd with 10%.
Carly Fiorina has held her gains from after the Republican debate, currently at 8% among Republicans, but has made no more progress.


http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7011


legendary
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October 02, 2015, 06:51:00 PM



TEAM TRUMP: ‘MORE GENUINE AND PRODUCTIVE WAYS’ TO SPEAK WITH HISPANICS THAN THROUGH PRO-AMNESTY CHAMBER GROUP


Billionaire and 2016 GOP frontrunner Donald Trump’s campaign says there are “more genuine and productive ways” to communicate with America’s Hispanic community than going through and empowering the pro-amnesty U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce (USHCC).

Trump’s campaign team comments come as Trump will bypass a question-and-answer session hosted by the USHCC on Oct. 8—and will instead be speaking directly to Americans at a campaign rally in Nevada, where he expects to have a “capacity crowd.” ....
Shakedown.
He's welcome to come to largely Hispanic areas and will fill the stadiums.  There's no problem with his taking questions from real people.
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October 02, 2015, 04:45:11 PM



TEAM TRUMP: ‘MORE GENUINE AND PRODUCTIVE WAYS’ TO SPEAK WITH HISPANICS THAN THROUGH PRO-AMNESTY CHAMBER GROUP


Billionaire and 2016 GOP frontrunner Donald Trump’s campaign says there are “more genuine and productive ways” to communicate with America’s Hispanic community than going through and empowering the pro-amnesty U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce (USHCC).

Trump’s campaign team comments come as Trump will bypass a question-and-answer session hosted by the USHCC on Oct. 8—and will instead be speaking directly to Americans at a campaign rally in Nevada, where he expects to have a “capacity crowd.” This comes after the USHCC spokesman attacked Trump in an interview with Politico on Thursday—and after the group asked Trump for tens of thousands, perhaps millions, of dollars in a fee.

“Donald J. Trump today announced he will not be participating in the October 8th USHCC (United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce) Q&A, as requested by its President and CEO Javier Palomarez,” a Trump spokesperson said in an email.

Mr. Trump will be speaking to a capacity crowd at a campaign rally in Nevada on that date. Additionally, Mr. Palomarez continues to leverage the national media attention surrounding Mr. Trump to benefit his organization and exploit Mr. Trump to enlist additional support and increase interest and revenue in his coalition including asking Mr. Trump to join his chamber for a fee amounting to between $25,000 and $2 million dollars, which Mr. Trump refused to do. Mr. Trump remains committed to reaching out to the Hispanic Community in more genuine and productive ways as he continues to share his vision to Make America Great Again.

USHCC’s spokesman Ammar Campa-Najjar attacked Trump’s campaign for the presidency and his ideas for America in an interview with Politico on Thursday as “sad,” “absurd” and “broken.”

“We’re not going to go easy on him,” Campa-Najjar said in the Politico interview about the-then-still-thought-to-be-happening Oct. 8 event. “A lot of people think it’s just going to be this positive thing.”

“I’ve been tight-lipped for a while, but I’ve got to speak up now,” Campa-Najjar added. “It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad that this man is leading in the polls and that this is his idea for a fiscally responsible, fair and feasible plan for dealing with immigrants.”

Campa-Najjar attacked Trump’s immigration reform plan—which would build a Mexican-funded wall on the U.S. border with Mexico, deport every illegal alien in America, and put a focus on American workers rather than special interests when it comes to future immigration levels—in the interview as well.

“The deporting thing is so absurd that no one can get behind it and he needs to explain how that’s going to work,” he said.

Campa-Najjar also accused Trump of being unrealistic when he claims—as he often does on the campaign trail—that he’s doing well with Hispanics.

“When we talk to them, they give the impression they’re doing so well with Hispanics: ‘Oh Hispanics love me,’ and I think that’s, at best, out of touch with reality,” Campa-Najjar said of the Trump campaign.

The group’s stated immigration plan on its website, however, is exactly the opposite of Trump’s immigration reform plan. The USHCC wants to “pass a comprehensive bill to harness the economic enrichment immigrates bring,” and “reform the visa system to attract STEM talent as well as EB-5 economic investment” while creating “market-driven work programs and temporary visas,” and more pro-amnesty standpoints.

Trump, meanwhile, wants to focus on security first—and on the well-being of all Americans negatively impacted by high levels of foreigners in the U.S. labor pool, something that drives wages down and unemployment up.

Trump’s campaign’s point that the USHCC doesn’t speak for the Hispanic community—and that the Hispanic community, which is not a monolithic voting bloc entirely supportive of open borders immigration policies—is yet another reason why he’s head-and-shoulders ahead of the rest of the 2016 GOP field. He’s turning the establishment narrative that the loudest politically-motivated minority of a particular ethnic group somehow speaks for everyone from that ethnic group on its head. Trump has skyrocketed in the polls every time he lands—whether by his own doing or the doing of someone else—in one of these types of situations. Where things go from here could be interesting.

USHCC is certainly looking for a fight with Trump. When he announced he wasn’t going to the event, Campa-Najjar issued a scathing statement attacking the GOP frontrunner—alleging he wanted to change the rules of the forum for some kind of special treatment.

“Mr. Trump was unwilling to abide by the terms and conditions of the USHCC’s Presidential Candidate Q&A Series – the same rules that all participants have previously followed,” Campa-Najjar said. “The USHCC refused to change the format of the forum, show any favoritism, exclude any issues or topics, or grant any immunity from objective scrutiny of his policies.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/team-trump-more-genuine-and-productive-ways-to-speak-with-hispanics-than-through-pro-amnesty-chamber-group/


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Shakedown.


legendary
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October 01, 2015, 01:44:54 PM



Roast Of Donald Trump Jeffrey Ross


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ToZcZkVzE



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And I thought he had a very thin skin. Hmm.




legendary
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September 30, 2015, 03:57:05 PM





legendary
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September 29, 2015, 06:32:20 PM



Teamsters Withhold Endorsement for Hillary. Want to Meet With Donald Trump (Video)




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Keystone pipeline.
The wall on the Mexican border.
Done Deal.


legendary
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September 29, 2015, 11:37:34 AM
Birth right citizenship isn't a Dem vs Repub issue in the USA.  Not at the street level.  It's actually a lot of blue collar Dems who lose their jobs to illegals.  At the top level, Dems advocate this nonsense because they hope to flood the country with poor, low information people who will vote Democratic.  This isn't complicated.  I don't know any Hispanics or blacks that are gungho for "open borders."  I don't know anyone who is for anchor babies. 

Non-hispanic white blue collar workers no longer vote democratic. They have long shifted their support to the Republicans. Most of the whites who vote Democrat now are Liberal, LGBT, and radical feminist types. And a simple majority of the Democrat voters are non-White. So in the end, it is still a Democrat versus Republican issue.
Suit yourself.

For some reason, I get the impression you don't live in the USA.


The Emperor's perspective has putin's russia as the geopolitical force on top of the food chain. Once he told me that a long time ago I understood what subjects we could see eye to eye while others, never.

He can correct me if I am wrong.


legendary
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September 29, 2015, 09:10:08 AM
Birth right citizenship isn't a Dem vs Repub issue in the USA.  Not at the street level.  It's actually a lot of blue collar Dems who lose their jobs to illegals.  At the top level, Dems advocate this nonsense because they hope to flood the country with poor, low information people who will vote Democratic.  This isn't complicated.  I don't know any Hispanics or blacks that are gungho for "open borders."  I don't know anyone who is for anchor babies. 

Non-hispanic white blue collar workers no longer vote democratic. They have long shifted their support to the Republicans. Most of the whites who vote Democrat now are Liberal, LGBT, and radical feminist types. And a simple majority of the Democrat voters are non-White. So in the end, it is still a Democrat versus Republican issue.
Suit yourself.

For some reason, I get the impression you don't live in the USA.
legendary
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September 28, 2015, 01:34:20 PM
Birth right citizenship isn't a Dem vs Repub issue in the USA.  Not at the street level.  It's actually a lot of blue collar Dems who lose their jobs to illegals.  At the top level, Dems advocate this nonsense because they hope to flood the country with poor, low information people who will vote Democratic.  This isn't complicated.  I don't know any Hispanics or blacks that are gungho for "open borders."  I don't know anyone who is for anchor babies. 

Non-hispanic white blue collar workers no longer vote democratic. They have long shifted their support to the Republicans. Most of the whites who vote Democrat now are Liberal, LGBT, and radical feminist types. And a simple majority of the Democrat voters are non-White. So in the end, it is still a Democrat versus Republican issue.
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September 28, 2015, 12:54:44 PM



TAX REFORM THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

The Goals Of Donald J. Trump’s Tax Plan


Too few Americans are working, too many jobs have been shipped overseas, and too many middle class families cannot make ends meet. This tax plan directly meets these challenges with four simple goals:

Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.

Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.

Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.

Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.

The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals

If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.
No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.
No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.

A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.

Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.

DETAILS OF DONALD J. TRUMP’S TAX PLAN

America needs a bold, simple and achievable plan based on conservative economic principles. This plan does that with needed tax relief for all Americans, especially the working poor and middle class, pro-growth tax reform for all sizes of businesses, and fiscally responsible steps to ensure this plan does not add to our enormous debt and deficit.

This plan simplifies the tax code by taking nearly 50% of current filers off the income tax rolls entirely and reducing the number of tax brackets from seven to four for everyone else. This plan also reduces or eliminates loopholes used by the very rich and special interests made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rates on individuals and companies.

The Trump Tax Plan: A Simpler Tax Code For All Americans

When the income tax was first introduced, just one percent of Americans had to pay it. It was never intended as a tax most Americans would pay. The Trump plan eliminates the income tax for over 73 million households. 42 million households that currently file complex forms to determine they don’t owe any income taxes will now file a one page form saving them time, stress, uncertainty and an average of $110 in preparation costs. Over 31 million households get the same simplification and keep on average nearly $1,000 of their hard-earned money.

[...]
Business Tax Reform To Encourage Jobs And Spur Economic Growth

Too many companies – from great American brands to innovative startups – are leaving America, either directly or through corporate inversions. The Democrats want to outlaw inversions, but that will never work. Companies leaving is not the disease, it is the symptom. Politicians in Washington have let America fall from the best corporate tax rate in the industrialized world in the 1980’s (thanks to Ronald Reagan) to the worst rate in the industrialized world. That is unacceptable. Under the Trump plan, America will compete with the world and win by cutting the corporate tax rate to 15%, taking our rate from one of the worst to one of the best.

This lower tax rate cannot be for big business alone; it needs to help the small businesses that are the true engine of our economy. Right now, freelancers, sole proprietors, unincorporated small businesses and pass-through entities are taxed at the high personal income tax rates. This treatment stifles small businesses. It also stifles tax reform because efforts to reduce loopholes and deductions available to the very rich and special interests end up hitting small businesses and job creators as well. The Trump plan addresses this challenge head on with a new business income tax rate within the personal income tax code that matches the 15% corporate tax rate to help these businesses, entrepreneurs and freelancers grow and prosper.

These lower rates will provide a tremendous stimulus for the economy – significant GDP growth, a huge number of new jobs and an increase in after-tax wages for workers.

The Trump Tax Plan Ends The Unfair Death Tax

The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Fiscally Responsible

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

Reducing or eliminating deductions and loopholes available to the very rich, starting by steepening the curve of the Personal Exemption Phaseout and the Pease Limitation on itemized deductions. The Trump plan also phases out the tax exemption on life insurance interest for high-income earners, ends the current tax treatment of carried interest for speculative partnerships that do not grow businesses or create jobs and are not risking their own capital, and reduces or eliminates other loopholes for the very rich and special interests. These reductions and eliminations will not harm the economy or hurt the middle class. Because the Trump plan introduces a new business income rate within the personal income tax code, they will not harm small businesses either.

A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate. Since we are making America’s corporate tax rate globally competitive, it is only fair that corporations help make that move fiscally responsible. U.S.-owned corporations have as much as $2.5 trillion in cash sitting overseas. Some companies have been leaving cash overseas as a tax maneuver. Under this plan, they can bring their cash home and put it to work in America while benefitting from the newly-lowered corporate tax rate that is globally competitive and no longer requires parking cash overseas. Other companies have cash overseas for specific business units or activities. They can leave that cash overseas, but they will still have to pay the one-time repatriation fee.

An end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad. Corporations will no longer be allowed to defer taxes on income earned abroad, but the foreign tax credit will remain in place because no company should face double taxation.

Reducing or eliminating some corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/images/uploads/trump-tax-reform.pdf


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Hoping those, not brainwashed by the D or the R, will read the PDF in full and share what they think about it here.

legendary
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September 27, 2015, 02:40:10 PM
You misunderstand.  I am saying that the Mexican, Chinese, whatever...produces a baby here the citizenship does not have to be automatic, but can be conferred only after a process.  Which can be refined for these cases to require fees.  This eliminates the "citizenship reason" to come to the US to have a baby for a large percentage of those who do it.  That's desirable.  Others might still come to get the free hospital care while having the baby, particularly if it was expected to be a difficult pregnancy.

Birth right citizenship will stay in the United States. The conservative Republicans doesn't possess enough support to overturn it. If any such attempt is made, it will be immediately branded as racist and xenophobic.

Many countries "sell" citizenship in various ways, from outright fees to requiring bringing and keeping certain amounts in the country's bank.  Not uncommonly the amount IS about 500k.

In most of the cases (countries such as Latvia, Canada and New Zealand) sell only PR (permanent residency). To obtain passports, you have to wait for many years. Only a small number of countries (such as Cyprus, Dominica and Antigua) offer passports for cash payment.

Well, that must be the reason why you or I can buy dual citizenship easily with enough money. 

Birth right citizenship isn't a Dem vs Repub issue in the USA.  Not at the street level.  It's actually a lot of blue collar Dems who lose their jobs to illegals.  At the top level, Dems advocate this nonsense because they hope to flood the country with poor, low information people who will vote Democratic.  This isn't complicated.  I don't know any Hispanics or blacks that are gungho for "open borders."  I don't know anyone who is for anchor babies. 
legendary
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September 27, 2015, 02:00:20 PM
You misunderstand.  I am saying that the Mexican, Chinese, whatever...produces a baby here the citizenship does not have to be automatic, but can be conferred only after a process.  Which can be refined for these cases to require fees.  This eliminates the "citizenship reason" to come to the US to have a baby for a large percentage of those who do it.  That's desirable.  Others might still come to get the free hospital care while having the baby, particularly if it was expected to be a difficult pregnancy.

Birth right citizenship will stay in the United States. The conservative Republicans doesn't possess enough support to overturn it. If any such attempt is made, it will be immediately branded as racist and xenophobic.

Many countries "sell" citizenship in various ways, from outright fees to requiring bringing and keeping certain amounts in the country's bank.  Not uncommonly the amount IS about 500k.

In most of the cases (countries such as Latvia, Canada and New Zealand) sell only PR (permanent residency). To obtain passports, you have to wait for many years. Only a small number of countries (such as Cyprus, Dominica and Antigua) offer passports for cash payment.
legendary
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September 26, 2015, 04:48:54 PM
It's unnecessary to confront the constitutional question of whether this can be stopped with a bill passed through Congress.

Better would be to simply put a price tag and a process on US citizenship for the anchor babies.  For a half a million USD, kid, we'll process your the kid's citizenship application when he turns 21.

Problem solved.

I don't think that anyone will be paying $500,000 for an American passport for his kid, when it can be entirely free. An illegal Mexican immigrant can give birth to her anchor baby in any of the sanctuary cities, and the government will bear the medical and other expenses. What makes you think that such people will end up paying $500K?
Many countries "sell" citizenship in various ways, from outright fees to requiring bringing and keeping certain amounts in the country's bank.  Not uncommonly the amount IS about 500k.

You misunderstand.  I am saying that the Mexican, Chinese, whatever...produces a baby here the citizenship does not have to be automatic, but can be conferred only after a process.  Which can be refined for these cases to require fees.  This eliminates the "citizenship reason" to come to the US to have a baby for a large percentage of those who do it.  That's desirable.  Others might still come to get the free hospital care while having the baby, particularly if it was expected to be a difficult pregnancy.
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