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Topic: [UPDATE - ON HAND] BitFury 16 Chip Boards 41.7Gh/s 3.69BTC - page 3. (Read 11726 times)

legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
As we are closer to the date/ final hashrates, we have adjusted the price.

funny how only 3-4 days ago you were defending a 6.3BTC/$999 pricing. what about the fact that current exchange rate puts 6BTC = >$1000?
hero member
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As we are closer to the date/ final hashrates, we have adjusted the price.
hero member
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Nice work gents!

Let us hope the BTC price rise gives these units a bit longer life.

Gives you a good feeling about Black Arrow to see that with a design, chips you get a miner lickety-split!

hero member
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Hey BobSag what do you think we could offer as far as hosting is concerned on these boards?
Pretty cheap.

Also for those that want pictures, the completed proto boards can be found here:
http://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/2-black-arrows-16x-bitfury-board/

Latest numbers has them hashing ~40ghash, but software is still being worked on. The rest of the PCBs go into assembly tomorrow night.
hero member
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Interested in 10. Looking forward to seeing a working demo.

Edit: After further consideration, delivery by Nov 1 @ 6 BTC is not worthwhile given current trends. Price of this needs to be closer to 3.5-4 BTC per board to be relevant.
http://imgur.com/P7704wy,xsYKb6n,MJvxwfp,QPE3Hc4,ttKt34i,WcQq3kC,MCWkVXY,BLdzwk7#7

I have these for now, fully finished boards should be done within 72 hours.
hero member
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Hello everybody,

Just to confirm that we are working with bobsag3 on this project.
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I run Linux on my abacus.
AS for ROI... same for all those USBs, ASIC Blades etc. You dont see them not selling. If you dont like the price, please feel free to move
on.

Good luck on sales. You'll always catch some people unable to do math Wink

We don't offer investment advice or counsel. We are a hardware provider. Considering the inventory levels of Bitfury available in the United States, we believe that this is a competitive price based on the fact that BFL is always backlogged and other hardware is pre-ordered for delivery several months away. We encourage you to compare ours price with other inventory that is not backlogged and in hand.

When a hardware provider feels the need to defend their pricing, the cause is already lost Wink

Besides, price parity with your competition doesn't matter squat if you all are unprofitable in the end. Look at the latest network difficulty increases, then ask yourselves "for how long can we keep finding the suckers unable to do math".

Thirdly, you're listing your prices in euros too, but import taxes from US to EU will add around 20% to the price.

Fourthly, you're advertising "in hand" products, but... "Board will Ship by Nov 1st or FULL REFUND" and "Im looking at a arrival of ~80% of the boards by next friday, October 25th". So it's not in hand after all...
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
AS for ROI... same for all those USBs, ASIC Blades etc. You dont see them not selling. If you dont like the price, please feel free to move
on.

Good luck on sales. You'll always catch some people unable to do math Wink

We don't offer investment advice or counsel. We are a hardware provider. Considering the inventory levels of Bitfury available in the United States, we believe that this is a competitive price based on the fact that BFL is always backlogged and other hardware is pre-ordered for delivery several months away. We encourage you to compare ours price with other inventory that is not backlogged and in hand.

cex.io offers immediate hosted Ghash that can be resold at anytime for market price (currently 0.134BTC/GH)

also, its worth noting that even at $8000/400GH bitfury system (which will drop the second they clear out the october preorders in the next week or 2 tops), it can be overclocked to >500GH with minimal effort (>550GH if using heatsinks)

your product looks great, but the pricing is going to make it a tough sell.
sr. member
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If I got one TODAY, it would be lucky to see 5BTC
full member
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I run Linux on my abacus.
AS for ROI... same for all those USBs, ASIC Blades etc. You dont see them not selling. If you dont like the price, please feel free to move
on.

Good luck on sales. You'll always catch some people unable to do math Wink
hero member
Activity: 546
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Owner, Minersource.net
$25 a GH??

At that price let's start selling Avalons again
$23.9/ghash if paid in $,
.15btc/ghash if in BTC


AS for ROI... same for all those USBs, ASIC Blades etc. You dont see them not selling. If you dont like the price, please feel free to move
on.

With the boards we got back from our test run, we should be able to get 50ghash out of each board. But Im only promising 41.7, anything above that should be considered extra Smiley
hero member
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$23.9 a GH??  (better?)

At that price let's start selling Avalons again

with free electricity and BTC at $250 fiat this breaks even in 110 days

with BTC at $200 fiat this NEVER breaks even
hero member
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If an order was placed today, how soon would it arrive? Do you do volume discounts? 6.3BTC/$999 is quite steep considering the difficulty jumped 40% today...
Im looking at a arrival of ~80% of the boards by next friday, October 25th. I should be able to start delivering before then, but I am assuming a worst case scenario shipping/assembly time wise.
I do do volume discounts... the primary reason for the high $$$ amount is the risk with taking CC etc. If you want to pay in BTC the price is more flexible.
sr. member
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If an order was placed today, how soon would it arrive? Do you do volume discounts? 6.3BTC/$999 is quite steep considering the difficulty jumped 40% today...
hero member
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you will need to bring down the price. a 25GH bitfury board is $500 and easily OC'd to 35-41GH, and that price was set over a month ago.

you should have these for <$500 and/or make h-boards (similar design) for <$300
Yes and those are out of stock for the EU, with little stock available in the US. Also 8k for 400ghash is right around this price.

And why would I want to do with someone elses design? I like this one, witch is why I had it paid to be made.
BTW Even at the lowest prices, the 16 BF chips were minimum $300. Also.... do they take credit card/ paypal?
legendary
Activity: 2128
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ASIC Wannabe
you will need to bring down the price. a 25GH bitfury board is $500 and easily OC'd to 35-41GH, and that price was set over a month ago.

you should have these for <$500 and/or make h-boards (similar design) for <$300
hero member
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BTC Mining Hardware, Trading and more
looks good, also waiting to see working proto
hero member
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[Warning, useless post]
Woah, woah, woah.  Back that truck up there, buddy.  You're quoting realistic specs, quoting a shipped before date, and offering a full refund if not shipped on time?

You'd best pack up and move onto a different market.  We only buy from companies that over promise and deliver late 'round these parts.
SHH I was hoping to slip under the radar.

But the refund as I repeat, atleast for BTC orders, the funds WILL not be touched from that adress unless being moved to another publicly posted address, or when I start mass shipping.

As long as I get them from the assembler in large enough batches, I can do upwards of 100 boards a day shipped, shipping from middle of Missouri makes most USPS Priority packages take 2 days. 
hero member
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[Warning, useless post]
Woah, woah, woah.  Back that truck up there, buddy.  You're quoting realistic specs, quoting a shipped before date, and offering a full refund if not shipped on time?

You'd best pack up and move onto a different market.  We only buy from companies that over promise and deliver late 'round these parts.
hero member
Activity: 546
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Owner, Minersource.net
Interested in 10. Looking forward to seeing a working demo.
I *hope* to have atleast come pictures of it tomorrow (without ASIC;s). I will defiantly have them next week.
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