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Topic: URGENT: drop MTGOX class action lawyers! contact WSJ about their lies URGENT! (Read 4864 times)

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Bit_Happy sez:
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Perhaps Japan will surprise the world with their 'discovery' of another large amount of missing coins?*
*Provided by Mark shortly after he found out the alternative was certain jail.

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The Sunlot proposal looks like a desperate attempt to gain control of the investigation and prevent that [MK going to jail] from happening.

Granted!

From a Japanese perspective though, the best kind of settlement of the Mt. Gox collapse would be one that is uniquely Japanese, and not something proposed by foreigners. No doubt the Japanese spokesman's comment that the government is "very interested in bitcoin" is entirely accurate.

Many things tie bitcoin to Japan, not the least of which is the Japanese-sounding nom de plume, Satoshi Nakamoto, of the Bitcoin protocol and Core author(s) and of course Tokyo-based Mt. Gox itself. Right now, the latter is probably regarded as a huge liability by the authorities, yet liabilities can always be flipped into assets with only a little bit of imagination.

For example, it could make sense for a resurrected Mt. Gox to join one of the financially-oriented keiretsus, such as Sumitomo, as a kind of "younger-brother" company wherein it could be nursed back to its financial health.

Once recovered, and it's depositor's repaid in full, it could help turn around Japan's image as having a "sick" financial industry and transform it into one of being a financial innovator, that meets and exceeds investor's expectations, thereby improving the country's attractiveness for foreign investors.

It might not even turn out to be very expensive to restore Mt. Gox should a large amount of the missing coins happen to unexpectedly resurface.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's administration is doing its best to enhance the attractiveness of Japan for investors, and saving Mt. Gox from liquidation could be an important further step should they be able to reach consensus with Japanese leaders to take this action.

Does anyone know what "Save Mt. Gox" is in Kanji?
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How come it "feels" like this ridiculous plan will be approved?
Why is there no other highly visible option?
Because it is part of their public relations strategy--to present this as a fait accompli--a "done deal".

There are always options visible, and perhaps even the biggest one is hiding in plain sight.
The biggest one is simply that the liquidation runs its course. Mt. Gox gets investigated. Bank records are checked to find out where the missing cash went. Enough info comes out to implicate Karpeles. Mark Karpeles gets arrested. The standard Tokyo Metropolitan Police 23-day interrogation makes Karpeles tell where he hid the assets. Karpeles goes to jail for many years. Most of the assets are recovered.

The Sunlot proposal looks like a desperate attempt to gain control of the investigation and prevent that from happening.
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So far the Japanese government has been utterly silent except to meekly say that they are "very interested in bitcoin." Government and financial industry leaders need to focus on meeting and exceeding investors' expectations. That will help build confidence in Japan as a great place for direct foreign investment.

I've thought a lot about how much damage Gox did to BTC, but didn't really consider Japan. Your angle is a good one DrApricot.
Perhaps Japan will surprise the world with their 'discovery' of another large amount of missing coins?*
*Provided by Mark shortly after he found out the alternative was certain jail.
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How come it "feels" like this ridiculous plan will be approved?
Why is there no other highly visible option?
Because it is part of their public relations strategy--to present this as a fait accompli--a "done deal".

There are always options visible, and perhaps even the biggest one is hiding in plain sight. This whole thing is a huge embarrassment for the Japanese government. The Mt. Gox meltdown happened under their watch.

The Tokyo bankruptcy court is obviously completely in over its head in dealing with an innovative payments mechanism like bitcoin, a company having so many depositors (127,000), and with the scale of the funds involved--roughly, 1/2 billion USD or 5 trillion Japanese Yen.

Japan is trying hard to attract more foreign investment to restart it's moribund financial sector.

Ticking off tens of thousands of foreign investors from around the world is not a great way to attract foreign investment. Only a government such as Japan's has the ability to put pressure on the bad actors in this situation and get answers for the investors as well as helping to restore their funds.

So far the Japanese government has been utterly silent except to meekly say that they are "very interested in bitcoin." Government and financial industry leaders need to focus on meeting and exceeding investors' expectations. That will help build confidence in Japan as a great place for direct foreign investment.
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"The whole "plan" is handwaving. It's 22 pages of pumping up how marvellous these characters are, and then their plan to get the lost coins back on page 27 is:

5. Restoration of the secret key and bitcoins
<1> Digital investigation of lost coins.
<2> Restoration of bitcoins

That's it. That's the plan. For which they want $10m up front out of creditors' money.

Also, interesting to see on page 14 that the officers of Sunlot also claim to be officers of the "Bitcoin Association", which was founded and headed by Bruce Fenton. Who is on here talking up this rescue plan constantly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/249rdg/sunlot_holdings_ltd_plan_for_mtgox


How come it "feels" like this ridiculous plan will be approved?
Why is there no other highly visible option?
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https://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/gcprogram.taf?function=bio&EventID=gc12&SPID=8604

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Brock Pierce is the CEO of Titan Gaming and managing director of the Clearstone Global Gaming Fund. He sits on the boards of Xfire, EverTune, RevenueAPEX and Spicy Horse Games.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/autumn-radtke/6/21/183

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Previous   Xfire, Geodelic Systems, Inc, The Global Summit (non-profit)

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/03/06/bitcoin-death-autumn-radtke-idINDEEA2506X20140306

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A young American CEO who apparently committed suicide in Singapore was involved in the world of the bitcoin, but was also struggling with other issues prior to her death, friends and colleagues said.

"She had a phenomenal network of highly successful people around her, and here she is running this little exchange and it just isn't taking off in the way anybody had hoped," Steve Beauregard, CEO and founder of GoCoin, a start-up which provided bitcoin-related services to First Meta, told Reuters.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brockpierce

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Co-Founder & Chairman

GoCoin

August 2013 – Present (10 months)Singapore & Santa Monica

GoCoin.com is APAC's leading digital currency (Bitcoin) payment processor accepting emerging decentralized digital currencies as a payment method for eCommerce merchants, gaming platforms and non-profits.

Question: Did Autumn Radtke jump or was she pushed because of something she knew and was ready to share?

http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/tv/autumn-radtke-american-bitcoin-firm-ceo/

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Autumn became interested in gaming while working in the mobile space discovering the games on mobile devices were out performing every other type of content. She joined the new Xifre in April of 2011 where she assisted in fund raising from Intel Ventures to spin the company out of Titan gaming and now lead business development and strategic relationships before joining First Meta as CEO in 2012.

Autumn was close to entrepreneur and former child actor, Brock Pierce; the two of them were pictured many times, we are not sure if they were in a relationship though.

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Is there a deliberate attempt here to troll the forums to prevent discussion of the merits (or lack thereof) of the proposed Sunlot deal?

How do you define trolling when the head man is a head case who bankrupts multiple companies and was sued for playing "head games" with underage boys?
Seriously, it is absurd:
Exactly, which merits (or lack thereof) would be good to discuss regarding the proposed Sunlot deal?

Allow me to give a count as to how many merits via an image:

legendary
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Is there a deliberate attempt here to troll the forums to prevent discussion of the merits (or lack thereof) of the proposed Sunlot deal?

How do you define trolling when the head man is a head case who bankrupts multiple companies (and/or cheats partners in stock deals) & was sued for playing "head games" with underage boys?
Seriously, it is absurd:
Exactly, which merits (or lack thereof) would be good to discuss regarding the proposed Sunlot deal?
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Is there a deliberate attempt here to troll the forums to prevent discussion of the merits (or lack thereof) of the proposed Sunlot deal?
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Superduh sez:

> this is complete BULLSHIT.

The WSJ article sez:
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The creditors and the buyout group hope their deal will halt the liquidation proceedings launched by Mt. Gox earlier this month, which was given the go-ahead last week by the Japanese court, naming lawyer Nobuaki Kobayashi as the bankruptcy trustee to oversee that process.

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The notional primary goal of the exercise is to rescue the civilian vessel Kobayashi Maru in a simulated battle with the Klingons. The disabled ship is located in the Klingon Neutral Zone, and any Starfleet ship entering the zone would be in violation of the Organian Peace Treaty. The approaching cadet crew must decide whether to attempt rescue of the Kobayashi Maru crew – endangering their own ship and lives – or leave the Kobayashi Maru to certain destruction. If the cadet chooses to attempt rescue, the simulation is designed to guarantee that the ship is destroyed with the loss of all crew members.

Take us up to warp speed, Mr. Sulu!  Wink



"And then the alien from Mount Coxs Prime gave me something to drink..."
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Superduh sez:

> this is complete BULLSHIT.

The WSJ article sez:
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The creditors and the buyout group hope their deal will halt the liquidation proceedings launched by Mt. Gox earlier this month, which was given the go-ahead last week by the Japanese court, naming lawyer Nobuaki Kobayashi as the bankruptcy trustee to oversee that process.

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The notional primary goal of the exercise is to rescue the civilian vessel Kobayashi Maru in a simulated battle with the Klingons. The disabled ship is located in the Klingon Neutral Zone, and any Starfleet ship entering the zone would be in violation of the Organian Peace Treaty. The approaching cadet crew must decide whether to attempt rescue of the Kobayashi Maru crew – endangering their own ship and lives – or leave the Kobayashi Maru to certain destruction. If the cadet chooses to attempt rescue, the simulation is designed to guarantee that the ship is destroyed with the loss of all crew members.

Take us up to warp speed, Mr. Sulu!  Wink
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this is complete BULLSHIT.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304893404579530262159284736.

this is the second time WSJ is running fake, made up news about "creditor" support.

the SUNLOT plan DOES NOT have MAJORITY BACKER SUPPORT as the MAJORITY BACKERS were never consulted or AGREED TO ANYTHING.

the SUNLOT plan is awful in it's original and revised form. it should not be adopted by the creditors of MTGOX.

(deleted a bunch of stuff that made me sound like i was raging)

Either the WSJ did a poor job of fact checking, or the elite media is telling us what WILL happen.
Which is true?
Stay tuned for exciting updates...
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The above is what's in stored for all Mt Gox's customers - unable to delivered what was promised.
which would be different with the buyout proposal from the okcoin guys
they already know how to run a major exchange, but it is currently stuck in an increasingly restrictive country, which they could change if they had the gox licenses
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http://jezebel.com/inside-the-hollywood-sex-ring-mansion-from-the-bryan-si-1567755415

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In an exclusive interview, Mike E. confirms having been forced to engage in anal and oral intercourse with Collins-Rector, Shackley, and Pierce while under the influence of drugs that he claims were fed to him without his knowledge.

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While Collins-Rector, Shackley and 17-year-old executive vice president and former child star Brock Pierce were able to raise nearly $100 million in capital, they weren't able to deliver the technology they'd promised their big-name investors (like seeing a lamp in a video, and having the ability to click on it and buy it).

The above is what's in stored for all Mt Gox's customers - unable to delivered what was promised.
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If I were perverted, and my better half was fucking underage boys in my presence, I sure the hell would make sure that I'm fucking the underage boys' sisters in front of her as well. Why the hell should I miss out on sticking my dick in some 12 year old's tight pussy having a couple public hairs while she has her 11 year old brother on her belly helping him getting his dick hard so that she can put it into her pussy?

Surely, you don't think that a paedo- would simply say, "I'm not involved in that any more" (to quote Dorian Satoshi)?

"I'm not involved in that any more"
FYI: OP didn't want the kiddie sex in this thread.
Sadly, it is on topic...

With apologies to the OP, unfortunately it's relevant.

http://www.nndb.com/people/235/000160752/

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"I can say I'm very familiar with the issues gay teenagers face, very familiar."

And, Brock Jeffrey Pierce is talking about 18- and 19-year-old teenagers.
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If I were perverted, and my better half was fucking underage boys in my presence, I sure the hell would make sure that I'm fucking the underage boys' sisters in front of her as well. Why the hell should I miss out on sticking my dick in some 12 year old's tight pussy having a couple public hairs while she has her 11 year old brother on her belly helping him getting his dick hard so that she can put it into her pussy?

Surely, you don't think that a paedo- would simply say, "I'm not involved in that any more" (to quote Dorian Satoshi)?

"I'm not involved in that any more"
FYI: OP didn't want the kiddie sex in this thread.
Sadly, it is on topic...
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Wait till you get a load of the team that's destined to take it over: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/more-proof-that-savegoxcom-is-a-sham-590970

I spent time on this yesterday, here we go again.
Wait till you get a load of the team...
How about we let Gox die and pay as much as possible to those who lost money?

For those bitcoiners who forgot, Bruce Wagner was kicked to the curb for posing ONCE on some other site about a three-prong attack, i.e. two adults fucking an underage boy. Brock Pierce served jail time in Spain for 1000 Xs worst, and as of six days ago was still in bed, literally and figuratively, with the others that were also accused, one of which is a registered sex offender here in the US, of which Brock Pierce has been using his last name - Brock Rector - as if to show the world they're married.

Brock Pierce has been living with Marc Collins-Rector since he was 17 years old.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-06-14-den-head-pleads_x.htm

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Posted 6/14/2004 3:45 PM

Ex-DEN executive admits transporting minors for sex

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — The former chairman of a Web-casting company has admitted luring five minors across state lines so he could have sex with them.
Marc Collins-Rector, who has been in custody since his capture in Spain two years ago, pleaded guilty here Thursday to charges brought by federal prosecutors in California and New Jersey.

Collins-Rector founded Digital Entertainment Network, which created video-based sites targeting 14- to 24-year-olds. Executives planned a $75 million stock offering, but Collins-Rector his partners resigned after accusations of sexual abuse became known, and the company collapsed in 2000.

Collins-Rector, 44, remains held without bail pending sentencing Sept. 9 by U.S. District Judge Mary L. Cooper.

Each of the charges carries up to 10 years in prison, but sentencing guidelines call for less than three years. Collins-Rector faces just several months because of credit for time served, public defender David Schafer told the Los Angeles Times.

Schafer did not immediately return a call seeking comment Monday.

Collins-Rector settled a five-count federal indictment from New Jersey by pleading to one charge, transporting "J.W." from New Jersey to California, Michigan and elsewhere to engage in illegal sex from 1993 to 1997.

Collins-Rector also pleaded guilty to eight charges stemming from a 21-count California federal indictment. Those eight charges deal with transporting four minors for sex: "R.G." and "J.T." from Michigan to California in the mid-1990s, "B.L." from Minnesota to California in 1997, and "D.S." from California to Arizona in 1999.

Collins-Rector, whose last known U.S. address was in Encino, Calif., was captured in May 2002 at the Spanish resort town of Marbella.

Federal authorities had been searching for him since August 2000, when he was indicted by a federal grand jury in Newark. He was extradited Oct. 24, 2003.

Several teens who worked for Collins-Rector later filed lawsuits alleging sexual abuse, claiming they were lured to his Encino mansion only to encounter drugs, threats and sexual abuse.

Collins-Rector settled a lawsuit filed in New Jersey in 1999 with no admission of guilt. A similar lawsuit was filed in California by at least three other victims who won a $4 million default judgment when he did not respond.

Collins-Rector and Chad Shackley made millions when they formed Concentrics, an Internet service provider, in Michigan in the early 1990s. They sold it in 1995 and then formed DEN.

Shackley and Brock Pierce, Collins-Rector's business partners and housemates, had also been held in Spain, but authorities had no immediate information on their status.

If I were perverted, and my better half was fucking underage boys in my presence, I sure the hell would make sure that I'm fucking the underage boys' sisters in front of her as well. Why the hell should I miss out on sticking my dick in some 12 year old's tight pussy having a couple public hairs while she has her 11 year old brother on her belly helping him getting his dick hard so that she can put it into her pussy?

Surely, you don't think that a paedo- would simply say, "I'm not involved in that any more" (to quote Dorian Satoshi)?
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Wait till you get a load of the team that's destined to take it over: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/more-proof-that-savegoxcom-is-a-sham-590970

I spent time on this yesterday, here we go again.
Wait till you get a load of the team...
How about we let Gox die and pay as much as possible to those who lost money?
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> I think there is a chance it's a massive theft by a Gov agency, with Mark K as either an unlikely looking secret agent or patsy in grave danger.
   NO CHANCE ---

I'd like to believe that NO government agency in the U.S. or Japan would ever stoop so low, yet until now the only charge they have been able to make stick to MK is that he is more or less of a bumbling idiot.

They would not ....we did land on the moon and 9/11 was NOT an inside job.

its a snake pit of shit....and some demons will be slayed now...the bad guys better start watching their backs..



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