Topic: Urgent need for a Bitcoin "assocation" (Read 1054 times)
The more haste that you put on something the worse the outcome is going to be. You need to take your time especially with the most important decisions and make sure that you're putting enough time and effort into finding right solution or you're going to find yourself, with the wrong solution
I have found a business that every urgent need ends in a bad decision. If you take the word urgent out then you might have more success. I'm not talking about the way the people she thinks you're on the 405 talking about the way you see what you need to get done.
What do you guys think about this?
No association. No formality. No governing body. No central control. It all would go against the foundation tenets of Bitcoin. The trade off for that freedom is that there is no single message to refute the FUD or bad press. That's OK. It's the individual adoption of each us that stands up against the negative press. Our individual action gives the community strength.
Yes I strongly agree with your argument that bitcoin does not require association No formalities No government agency. There is no central control. Everything will go against the basic tenets of Bitcoin. Because if bitcoin has association and formality with government, it will destroy the bitcoin ideology, there will be no more anonymous, privacy, decentralized.
Actually, now all the bad things are over to Bitcoin's head so it changed the face of Bitcoin in the eyes of the users, they are prejudiced against Bitcoin, they dare not invest in it, simply because It's scandalous and too virtual. In addition, the bank has always said that Bitcoin is a fraud and money laundering or money laundering, they do not want to receive it, they always silently follow up and wait for the opportunity to destroy Bitcoin
What do you guys think about this?
No association. No formality. No governing body. No central control. It all would go against the foundation tenets of Bitcoin. The trade off for that freedom is that there is no single message to refute the FUD or bad press. That's OK. It's the individual adoption of each us that stands up against the negative press. Our individual action gives the community strength.
Yes, We will not be needing any association for it may take our freedom.
I strongly believe that in order to come off professional Bitcoin's founders and a team of financial professionals should form an "assocation" so they can directly publish statements
against any bad news or any banker labeling Bitcoin as "fraudulent". Right now, I feel like there's not one single person who can be blamed if something goes wrong and this is the exact
reason why lots of people feel uncomfortable buying the Bitcoins. Bitcoin needs a face. Right now, it's not linked to anything. It's too mysterious. I never see any publications whenever there's bad news and
this is not good! What do you guys think about this?
I don't think we need this kind of "association" , the bitcoin community is the association that will handle these kind of "BAD" news and don't you agree that with these FUD inducing articles a lot of WEAK HAND / WEAK HOLDERS are no longer in the bitcoin community? . As for me it is basic that you know what is a legit FUD article or news, and you must know the status of community rearding bitcoin before believing on this kind of news, one way to create more holders weak or not is advertisement and also word of mouth would also help to advertise Bitcoin.against any bad news or any banker labeling Bitcoin as "fraudulent". Right now, I feel like there's not one single person who can be blamed if something goes wrong and this is the exact
reason why lots of people feel uncomfortable buying the Bitcoins. Bitcoin needs a face. Right now, it's not linked to anything. It's too mysterious. I never see any publications whenever there's bad news and
this is not good! What do you guys think about this?
who are planning to cash out on their Bitcoin as soon as they see there's no other way out. It's growing too fast and the world is not ready for this. You can claim all you want, the price goes up very fast and down very fast which is considered a high-risk investment. I can't believe that you guys are so blind to this. No grandma in the world will ever use this if there is no professional organization. Government is great. Banks are great. There is no better alternative. Anarchy is not the solution. Bitcoin could be a nice way as a digital currency next to the banks but I will never kiss cash money goodbye for some digital nonsense. I want to be able to control my money. At least the bank have offices. Bitcoin will never have offices, never have headquarters, never anything like it if there is no organization. How do you want people to get informed when there is only the internet? What kind of digital freakshow is that? Untrustworthy as hell! Look at the price going down. I believe it will go down to 5 USD very soon. Good luck believing in your bubble!
Your original post say that you want Bitcoin to have a face. This post says you basically want a governing body. They're completely different.
First, what would having a face for Bitcoins do? Whoever that would be, or no matter what group you form for that purpose, they will have no powers over Bitcoins and its holders. Are you saying you want a statement to come from someone with absolutely no control over the situation whenever things are looking gloomy? That's going to be what it is. You might as well ask a random person on this forum, and they'd be able to do the exact same thing your association would: nothing.
Bitcoin is designed in such a way that it's decentralized. This literally means no entity can control it in its entirety, and there's nothing you can do about it. Believe it or not, you have more control over your Bitcoins than you do with your fiat. You're literally responsible for everything you do, and you don't even need a third party entity to hold it for you. The drawback, of course, is that if you mess up, then there would be no one to clean up after you.
If you don't like the way it currently is, then by all means, you are more than welcome to take a look at the myriad of available altcoin options.
I strongly believe that in order to come off professional Bitcoin's founders and a team of financial professionals should form an "assocation" so they can directly publish statements
against any bad news or any banker labeling Bitcoin as "fraudulent". Right now, I feel like there's not one single person who can be blamed if something goes wrong and this is the exact
reason why lots of people feel uncomfortable buying the Bitcoins. Bitcoin needs a face. Right now, it's not linked to anything. It's too mysterious. I never see any publications whenever there's bad news and
this is not good! What do you guys think about this?
I don't think we need this kind of "association" , the bitcoin community is the association that will handle these kind of "BAD" news and don't you agree that with these FUD inducing articles a lot of WEAK HAND / WEAK HOLDERS are no longer in the bitcoin community? . As for me it is basic that you know what is a legit FUD article or news, and you must know the status of community rearding bitcoin before believing on this kind of news, one way to create more holders weak or not is advertisement and also word of mouth would also help to advertise Bitcoin. against any bad news or any banker labeling Bitcoin as "fraudulent". Right now, I feel like there's not one single person who can be blamed if something goes wrong and this is the exact
reason why lots of people feel uncomfortable buying the Bitcoins. Bitcoin needs a face. Right now, it's not linked to anything. It's too mysterious. I never see any publications whenever there's bad news and
this is not good! What do you guys think about this?
This is what happens, when idiots form a Bitcoin Association:
https://twitter.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/915592927853686789
https://twitter.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/915592927853686789
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The Bitcoin Association Switzerland has obviously lost his mind by accepting a talk of fraudster Craig S. Wright?
I think forming a bitcoin association is a good idea, but we need to consider its existence, whether it will have more or less of a positive impact. in my own country there is a bitcoin association community set up for the purpose of ensuring a positive development for Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology here, in line with government rules in my country. this group was formed to discuss, promote, and protect the common interests related to the development of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency here.
Having no central body to publish statements might seem to be a drawback for bitcoin progress,but bitcoin is a decentralized currency and it has survived these much days mainly due to its decentralized nature.Already we saw,some miners didn't agree for segwit activation for a ong time and it became a serious issue.So,if there is an association formed with a group of people authorised to publish officially about bitcoin,then it would create unwanted issues.They might try to impose their own ideas about bitcoin for their own profits.Just what we have to do is to be aware about happenings in the bitcoin world and not to become victims of FUD.
Bitcoin model is completely new so we do not know the limitations that it has especially since the community is still small compared to what we think we may reach however I agree with you this seems to be a limitation of bitcoin but unfortunately it does not seem that this is something that bitcoin can be improved upon.And that is, you all know, against the natural behavior of bitcoins. So no need to form an association. It will cause bad effect at the end of the day.
Having no central body to publish statements might seem to be a drawback for bitcoin progress,but bitcoin is a decentralized currency and it has survived these much days mainly due to its decentralized nature.Already we saw,some miners didn't agree for segwit activation for a ong time and it became a serious issue.So,if there is an association formed with a group of people authorised to publish officially about bitcoin,then it would create unwanted issues.They might try to impose their own ideas about bitcoin for their own profits.Just what we have to do is to be aware about happenings in the bitcoin world and not to become victims of FUD.
Bitcoin model is completely new so we do not know the limitations that it has especially since the community is still small compared to what we think we may reach however I agree with you this seems to be a limitation of bitcoin but unfortunately it does not seem that this is something that bitcoin can be improved upon.And that is, you all know, against the natural behavior of bitcoins. So no need to form an association. It will cause bad effect at the end of the day.
It's not necessary to have an association, I understand the desire to have a uniform response or public relation of some sort but the community should be free of being funneled into one form of thought process. The community we have now is strong and resilient as it is so we just need to wait the storm clears and improve and develop Bitcoin further.
current issue raise up we alone should take care of our actions and associations with same thoughts about the problem should or can be consider but
either way its still our own decision to make.
Nice idea: Centralize a decentralized system.
This is what I suspected to be happening in the future but not this soon. I don't like the idea, actually I hate it but sooner or later an association is going to take place and then everything will be as good as over. I don't want to become a part of a centralized digital economy system and I wish it never happens. All the issues can be resolved without an association also.I thought my smiley was showing the ironical intend, but it obv. didn't.
It's not necessary to have an association, I understand the desire to have a uniform response or public relation of some sort but the community should be free of being funneled into one form of thought process. The community we have now is strong and resilient as it is so we just need to wait the storm clears and improve and develop Bitcoin further.
Having no central body to publish statements might seem to be a drawback for bitcoin progress,but bitcoin is a decentralized currency and it has survived these much days mainly due to its decentralized nature.Already we saw,some miners didn't agree for segwit activation for a ong time and it became a serious issue.So,if there is an association formed with a group of people authorised to publish officially about bitcoin,then it would create unwanted issues.They might try to impose their own ideas about bitcoin for their own profits.Just what we have to do is to be aware about happenings in the bitcoin world and not to become victims of FUD.
Bitcoin model is completely new so we do not know the limitations that it has especially since the community is still small compared to what we think we may reach however I agree with you this seems to be a limitation of bitcoin but unfortunately it does not seem that this is something that bitcoin can be improved upon. 
As Op mentioned an association will help overcome issues as well reveal statements when someone tries to evade giving false information. Same time if such an authority is created, automatically the control goes into their hands. For this reason it's good to have it same as the present to function independently.
I agree to this. In fact this would be a good chance to gather Bitcoin investors or users personally and discuss Bitcoin in a formal manner. It will be an avenue for.l everyone to learn better about Bitcoin and be able to share knowledge to others. Although we already have forums like this, an association that meets in a gathering will also bring connection to people and members will be able to build their network as well.
Nice idea: Centralize a decentralized system.
This is what I suspected to be happening in the future but not this soon. I don't like the idea, actually I hate it but sooner or later an association is going to take place and then everything will be as good as over. I don't want to become a part of a centralized digital economy system and I wish it never happens. All the issues can be resolved without an association also. Having no central body to publish statements might seem to be a drawback for bitcoin progress,but bitcoin is a decentralized currency and it has survived these much days mainly due to its decentralized nature.Already we saw,some miners didn't agree for segwit activation for a ong time and it became a serious issue.So,if there is an association formed with a group of people authorised to publish officially about bitcoin,then it would create unwanted issues.They might try to impose their own ideas about bitcoin for their own profits.Just what we have to do is to be aware about happenings in the bitcoin world and not to become victims of FUD.
It is reality that bitcoin is popular across the world due to his nature of decentralization and due to this feature people like it very much and believe in it. I think bitcoin doesn’t need any association because it is safe and can fight against speculations and propaganda. I think decentralization feature of bitcoin is enough for enemies of bitcoin because due to this feature no one country or person can approach bitcoin’s system. Jump to: